Leaving US to Live in Canada?

[Concerned American]

I have thought about Montreal. I have watched youtube videos of Americans who visited there or moved there and absolutely love the city.

I also have thought about the smaller Canadian cities like Sarnia or Windsor just over the Michigan border. Also thought about London.

I am going visit Canada again in a week. Your right it might take several more visits and maybe temporarily living there for a couple months.

I live near the border and visit Canada often. I like the change in small doses. I wouldn't want to live there.

 

[ScorpioRising007]

Well again, I think any who don't feel they are blessed by being a U.S. citizen definitely should leave. They will be happier I suppose and the U.S. will be better off.

It is not that I don't feel bless or enjoy living in the US.. It is more a desire to have a big change in my life and to become a new person. To have a completely new life.

I actually may be worser off in another country... but money really isn't my concern. I am perfectly happy living very poor in another country. Having a big house or a lot of money isn't something I care about, just as long as I can survive doing what ever job I can. I think I might try Trucking in Canada. I worked for a short time as a class A CDL Truck Driver in the United States.

 

[wtb]

Canadians really hate Americans nowadays, I'm not sure how welcome you will be. Canada has even take American whiskey off of the shelves of its liquor stores, they despise us so much.

I suspect, as long as the American didn't vote for Trump and hates Trump, Canada might be welcoming to them. I'd be pleased to see some of that particular Trump hating group head out of the U.S. and to Canada.

 

[wtb]

It is not that I don't feel bless or enjoy living in the US.. It is more a desire to have a big change in my life and to become a new person. To have a completely new life.

I actually may be worser off in another country... but money really isn't my concern. I am perfectly happy living very poor in another country. Having a big house or a lot of money isn't something I care about, just as long as I can survive doing what ever job I can. I think I might try Trucking in Canada. I worked for a short time as a class A CDL Truck Driver in the United States.

I think Canada might have some pretty strict immigration laws and without ample assets, it might be hard to be accepted by them. I'm not sure though, so maybe a Canadian will elaborate on that.

 

[Foxfyre]

It is not that I don't feel bless or enjoy living in the US.. It is more a desire to have a big change in my life and to become a new person. To have a completely new life.

I actually may be worser off in another country... but money really isn't my concern. I am perfectly happy living very poor in another country. Having a big house or a lot of money isn't something I care about, just as long as I can survive doing what ever job I can. I think I might try Trucking in Canada. I worked for a short time as a class A CDL Truck Driver in the United States.

The cost of living in Canada is somewhat lower than the USA but so are salaries which pretty much offsets the benefits of a lower cost of living. Canada does require new immigrants to be self sustaining financially and be able to cover all their basic expenses right away. That means unless you have a very large savings account, you'll need a good guaranteed job before you go.

(The USA should have the same law for new immigrants, among many other things.)

 

[hjmick]

I think about sometimes leaving the US to live in Canada the rest of my life. Anyone know anyone who has done this before? How was it?

I don't know what you call it.. midlife crisis. I have a strong urge to live in a different country the rest of my life.

I guess I just am looking for a different life and a complete change. I could be a trucker up there, I hear they have a need for truckers. I have worked as a truck driver before.

I am not sure if I would want to keep US citizenship and just be dual citizen... if becoming citizen of Canada is too hard I might just make a compromise and just live there temporarily for as many months as I could before I would have to go back the US.

Any thoughts? Anyone know anyone who has done this before?

For all its faults and shortcomings, I think there is still no better place live than the U.S.

And why Canada? It's not that different than the U.S.

If you're looking for real change, try Portugal...

 

[hjmick]

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

I think about sometimes leaving the US to live in Canada the rest of my life. Anyone know anyone who has done this before? How was it?

I don't know what you call it.. midlife crisis. I have a strong urge to live in a different country the rest of my life.

I guess I just am looking for a different life and a complete change. I could be a trucker up there, I hear they have a need for truckers. I have worked as a truck driver before.

I am not sure if I would want to keep US citizenship and just be dual citizen... if becoming citizen of Canada is too hard I might just make a compromise and just live there temporarily for as many months as I could before I would have to go back the US.

Any thoughts? Anyone know anyone who has done this before?

If you really want to go to Canada, try Ontario. Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and now British Columbia have made it clear that they want to get out of Canada, due to the government's far-left agenda. Their initial idea is to create a trade exclusion zone to favor their provinces.

 

[Leo123]

There are a lot of great places in America. You might look around a bit before leaving.

 

[Concerned American]

The cost of living in Canada is somewhat lower than the USA but so are salaries which pretty much offsets the benefits of a lower cost of living.

The Canadian dollar is worth about 25% less than the US dollar as well.

 

[ScorpioRising007]

For all its faults and shortcomings, I think there is still no better place live than the U.S.

And why Canada? It's not that different than the U.S.

If you're looking for real change, try Portugal...

I think job opportunities are better in Canada than Portugal... at least for me. My strongest point is having former experience working as a Class A truck driver. I know Canada always needs experienced drivers.... not so sure how strong the trucking industry is in Portugal.

 

[hjmick]

I think job opportunities are better in Canada than Portugal... at least for me. My strongest point is having former experience working as a Class A truck driver. I know Canada always needs experienced drivers.... not so sure how strong the trucking industry is in Portugal.

Oh... work... yeah, I wasn't thinking about needing to work...

 

[Concerned American]

I think job opportunities are better in Canada than Portugal... at least for me. My strongest point is having former experience working as a Class A truck driver. I know Canada always needs experienced drivers.... not so sure how strong the trucking industry is in Portugal.

I go to Canada all the time---it's almost like going to another country.

 

[shockedcanadian]

The cost of living in Canada is somewhat lower than the USA but so are salaries which pretty much offsets the benefits of a lower cost of living. Canada does require new immigrants to be self sustaining financially and be able to cover all their basic expenses right away. That means unless you have a very large savings account, you'll need a good guaranteed job before you go.

(The USA should have the same law for new immigrants, among many other things.)

Dont buy the "costs are lower in Canada" selling point. Unless you are comparing some town in Canada to say Manhattan. New York, Los Angeles, Hawaii etc. These are more expensive to live even as you are taxes less. However, from coast to coast in Canada it's expensive relative to earnings. You have plenty of relief spots in the U.S and places that cost far less to survive, lower taxes, cheaper groceries etc.

There is a reason you have a long line of Canadians who shop in the U.S for groceries while you can't say the same in the other direction.

 

[Concerned American]

Dont buy the "costs are lower in Canada" selling point. Unless you are comparing some town in Canada to say Manhattan. New York, Los Angeles, Hawaii etc. These are more expensive to live even as you are taxes less. However, from coast to coast in Canada it's expensive relative to earnings. You have plenty of relief spots in the U.S and places that cost far less to survive, lower taxes, cheaper groceries etc.

There is a reason you have a long line of Canadians who shop in the U.S for groceries while you can't say the same in the other direction.

I considered a trip around the north end of the Great Lakes a couple of years ago and chose the southern route because of the costs of fuel alone. Lodging costs are also substantially higher.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I considered a trip around the north end of the Great Lakes a couple of years ago and chose the southern route because of the costs of fuel alone. Lodging costs are also substantially higher.

The truth is that Canada is not appealing for a number of reasons.

The key reason is what I have experienced. We are essentially Moscow 1983 and many Americans when they live here sense it, as do many Canadians though they can't quite seem to put their finger on it.

That is definitely the underlying issue in the country, always present just under the radar and in the shadows. If you visit here and don't tell a government clerk you are American, you will find most of them will be rude and entitled. That's how centralized systems work with extensive public unions.

I recall one lady making me jump through hoops and I was very unhappy. I told her that I needed this immediately for my work requirements out of country and I said "I am going to do what you ask (I had to travel an hour and a half away), I will be asking to speak to your manager when I return".

She said to me, "I've worked here a long time and I will be working here for many more years". I was cool and replied, "ok", very casually. When I returned their team allowed me to skip the line, that was her way of saying "he sounded serious". I didnt complain but I was not happy.

So in essence, if you are not a member of the government, a politician, a cop or their covert creepy friends, you are a lower caste, even if you have a million dollars in your briefcase.

Never forget that last paragraph as it is very real.

 

[Concerned American]

The truth is that Canada is not appealing for a number of reasons.

The key reason is what I have experienced. We are essentially Moscow 1983 and many Americans when they live here sense it, as do many Canadians though they can't quite seem to put their finger on it.

That is definitely the underlying issue in the country, always present just under the radar and in the shadows. If you visit here and don't tell a government clerk you are American, you will find most of them will be rude and entitled. That's how centralized systems work with extensive public unions.

I recall one lady making me jump through hoops and I was very unhappy. I told her that I needed this immediately for my work requirements out of country and I said "I am going to do what you ask (I had to travel an hour and a half away), I will be asking to speak to your manager when I return".

She said to me, "I've worked here a long time and I will be working here for many more years". I was cool and replied, "ok", very casually. When I returned their team allowed me to skip the line, that was her way of saying "he sounded serious". I didnt complain but I was not happy.

So in essence, if you are not a member of the government, a politician, a cop or their covert creepy friends, you are a lower caste, even if you have a million dollars in your briefcase.

Never forget that last paragraph as it is very real.

What you describe here isn't uncommon in the US. Gov't employees are exposed to any number of insults and I am not insensitive to their plight. However, they are paid very well and their employment benefits are the best in the country, they should be very aware that they should treat their employers with courtesy and respect. LOL, I said in a post earlier today that I travel to Canada two or three times a year and It's almost like going to a different country.