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This is an fascinating article in French magazine Marianne, who got access to "several confidential defense reports" from the French army on the situation in Ukraine.

Guerre en Ukraine : de la prudence à l'affolement… Ce que cache le virage de Macron
Translated:

The situation looks exceedingly bleak for Ukraine, which might in part explain Macron's recent declarations around sending troops to Ukraine. I translated the important parts of the article:

"A Ukrainian military victory now seems impossible"

The reports Marianne consulted write that Ukraine's counter-offensive "gradually bogged down in mud and blood and did not result in any strategic gain" and that its planning, conceived by Kiev and Western general staffs, turned out to be "disastrous": "Planners thought that once the first Russian defense lines were breached, the entire front would collapse [...] These fundamental preliminary phases were conducted without considering the moral forces of the enemy in defense: that is, the will of the Russian soldier to hold onto the terrain".

The reports also highlight "the inadequacy of the training of Ukrainian soldiers and officers": due to a lack of officers and a significant number of veterans, these "Year II soldiers" from Ukraine - often trained for "no more than three weeks" - were launched into an assault on a Russian fortification line that proved impregnable.

Without any air support, with disparate Western equipment that was less efficient than the old Soviet material ("obsolete, easy to maintain, and capable of being used in degraded mode", the report mentions), the Ukrainian troops had no hope of breaking through. Add to this the "Russian super-dominance in the field of electronic jamming penalizing, on the Ukrainian side, the use of drones and command systems".

"The Russian army is today the 'tactical and technical' reference for thinking and implementing the defensive mode," writes the report. Not only does Moscow have heavy engineering equipment that allowed it to construct defensive works ("almost total absence of this material on the Ukrainian side, and the impossibility for Westerners to supply it quickly") but the 1,200 km front, known as the Sourokovine line (after a Russian general), has been mined to a huge extent.

The reports also highlight that contrary to Ukraine "the Russians have managed their reserve troops well, to ensure operational endurance." According to this document, Moscow reinforces its units before they are completely worn out, mixes recruits with experienced troops, ensures regular rest periods in the rear... and "always had a coherent reserve force to manage unforeseen events." This is far from the widespread idea in the West of a Russian army sending its troops to the slaughter without counting...

"To date, the Ukrainian general staff does not have a critical mass of land forces capable of inter-arms maneuver at the corps level capable of challenging their Russian counterparts to break through its defensive line," concludes this confidential defense report, according to which "the gravest error of analysis and judgment would be to continue to seek exclusively military solutions to stop the hostilities". A French officer summarizes: "It is clear, given the forces present, that Ukraine cannot win this war militarily."

"The conflict entered a critical phase in December"
"The combativeness of Ukrainian soldiers is deeply affected," mentions a forward-looking report for the year 2024. "Zelensky would need 35,000 men per month, he's not recruiting half of that, while Putin draws from a pool of 30,000 volunteers per month," observes a military officer returned from Kiev. In terms of equipment, the balance is just as unbalanced: the failed offensive of 2023 "tactically destroyed" half of Kiev's 12 combat brigades.

Since then, Western aid has never been so low. It is therefore clear that no Ukrainian offensive can be launched this year. "The West can supply 3D printers to manufacture drones or loitering munitions, but can never print men," notes this report. "Given the situation, it may have been decided to strengthen the Ukrainian army, not with fighters, but with support forces, in the rear, allowing Ukrainian soldiers to be freed up for the front," admits a senior officer, confirming a "ramp-up" of Western military personnel in civilian clothes. "Besides the Americans, who allowed the New York Times to visit a CIA camp, there are quite a few Britons," slips a military officer, who does not deny the presence of French special forces, notably combat swimmers for training missions...

"The risk of a Russian breakthrough is real"
On February 17, Kiev had to abandon the city of Avdiivka, in the northern suburbs of Donetsk, which had until then been a fortified stronghold. "It was both the heart and symbol of Ukrainian resistance in the Russian-speaking Donbass," highlights a report on the "battle of Avdiivka," drawing a series of damning lessons. "The Russians changed their modus operandi by compartmentalizing the city, and especially by using gliding bombs on a large scale for the first time," notes this document. When a 155mm artillery shell carries 7 kg of explosive, the gliding bomb delivers between 200 and 700 kg and can thus pierce concrete structures more than 2 m thick. A hell for Ukrainian defenses, which lost more than 1,000 men per day. Furthermore, the Russians use sound suppressors on light infantry weapons to foil acoustic detection systems on the ground.

"The decision to retreat by the Ukrainian armed forces was a surprise," notes this last report, highlighting "its suddenness and lack of preparation," fearing that this choice was "more endured than decided by the Ukrainian command," suggesting a possible onset of "disarray."

"The Ukrainian armed forces have tactically shown that they do not possess the human and material capabilities [...] to hold a sector of the front that is subjected to the assailant's effort," continues the document. "The Ukrainian failure in Avdiivka shows that, despite the emergency deployment of an 'elite' brigade – the 3rd Azov Air Assault Brigade –, Kiev is not capable of locally restoring a sector of the front that collapses," alerts this last report.

What the Russians will do with this tactical success remains to be seen. Will they continue in the current mode of "nibbling and slowly shaking" the entire front line, or will they seek to "break through in depth"? "The terrain behind Avdiivka allows it," signals this recent document, also warning that Western sources tend to "underestimate" the Russians, themselves adept at the practice of "Maskirovka," "appearing weak when strong." According to this analysis, after two years of war, Russian forces have thus shown their ability to "develop operational endurance" that allows them to wage "a slow and long-intensity war based on the continuous attrition of the Ukrainian army."

Talking head take:



I know, I know, the Uke-bros will say..... "Nice try", but I saw some post on Twitter that said the Ukrainians have killed over 5 million Russians and only lost 12 guys and a Yugo (motor blew) so you should probably stop sucking off Putin. ;)
 
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French magazine Marianne, who got access to "several confidential defense reports"
with other words from 🇸🇦 🇷🇺 RT .

BY THE WAY, any comment on this ?
“By invading Ukraine, Moscow 🇸🇦 🇸🇦🇷🇺🐷horde triggered a war on the EU’s doorstep and a geopolitical crisis undoubtedly the most dramatic in the last 20 years. To the attacked Ukrainian nation, we owe our respect and support,” said far-right and Putin-friendly French politician Marine Le Pen.
 
This is an fascinating article in French magazine Marianne, who got access to "several confidential defense reports" from the French army on the situation in Ukraine.

Guerre en Ukraine : de la prudence à l'affolement… Ce que cache le virage de Macron
Translated:

The situation looks exceedingly bleak for Ukraine, which might in part explain Macron's recent declarations around sending troops to Ukraine. I translated the important parts of the article:

"A Ukrainian military victory now seems impossible"

The reports Marianne consulted write that Ukraine's counter-offensive "gradually bogged down in mud and blood and did not result in any strategic gain" and that its planning, conceived by Kiev and Western general staffs, turned out to be "disastrous": "Planners thought that once the first Russian defense lines were breached, the entire front would collapse [...] These fundamental preliminary phases were conducted without considering the moral forces of the enemy in defense: that is, the will of the Russian soldier to hold onto the terrain".

The reports also highlight "the inadequacy of the training of Ukrainian soldiers and officers": due to a lack of officers and a significant number of veterans, these "Year II soldiers" from Ukraine - often trained for "no more than three weeks" - were launched into an assault on a Russian fortification line that proved impregnable.

Without any air support, with disparate Western equipment that was less efficient than the old Soviet material ("obsolete, easy to maintain, and capable of being used in degraded mode", the report mentions), the Ukrainian troops had no hope of breaking through. Add to this the "Russian super-dominance in the field of electronic jamming penalizing, on the Ukrainian side, the use of drones and command systems".

"The Russian army is today the 'tactical and technical' reference for thinking and implementing the defensive mode," writes the report. Not only does Moscow have heavy engineering equipment that allowed it to construct defensive works ("almost total absence of this material on the Ukrainian side, and the impossibility for Westerners to supply it quickly") but the 1,200 km front, known as the Sourokovine line (after a Russian general), has been mined to a huge extent.

The reports also highlight that contrary to Ukraine "the Russians have managed their reserve troops well, to ensure operational endurance." According to this document, Moscow reinforces its units before they are completely worn out, mixes recruits with experienced troops, ensures regular rest periods in the rear... and "always had a coherent reserve force to manage unforeseen events." This is far from the widespread idea in the West of a Russian army sending its troops to the slaughter without counting...

"To date, the Ukrainian general staff does not have a critical mass of land forces capable of inter-arms maneuver at the corps level capable of challenging their Russian counterparts to break through its defensive line," concludes this confidential defense report, according to which "the gravest error of analysis and judgment would be to continue to seek exclusively military solutions to stop the hostilities". A French officer summarizes: "It is clear, given the forces present, that Ukraine cannot win this war militarily."

"The conflict entered a critical phase in December"
"The combativeness of Ukrainian soldiers is deeply affected," mentions a forward-looking report for the year 2024. "Zelensky would need 35,000 men per month, he's not recruiting half of that, while Putin draws from a pool of 30,000 volunteers per month," observes a military officer returned from Kiev. In terms of equipment, the balance is just as unbalanced: the failed offensive of 2023 "tactically destroyed" half of Kiev's 12 combat brigades.

Since then, Western aid has never been so low. It is therefore clear that no Ukrainian offensive can be launched this year. "The West can supply 3D printers to manufacture drones or loitering munitions, but can never print men," notes this report. "Given the situation, it may have been decided to strengthen the Ukrainian army, not with fighters, but with support forces, in the rear, allowing Ukrainian soldiers to be freed up for the front," admits a senior officer, confirming a "ramp-up" of Western military personnel in civilian clothes. "Besides the Americans, who allowed the New York Times to visit a CIA camp, there are quite a few Britons," slips a military officer, who does not deny the presence of French special forces, notably combat swimmers for training missions...

"The risk of a Russian breakthrough is real"
On February 17, Kiev had to abandon the city of Avdiivka, in the northern suburbs of Donetsk, which had until then been a fortified stronghold. "It was both the heart and symbol of Ukrainian resistance in the Russian-speaking Donbass," highlights a report on the "battle of Avdiivka," drawing a series of damning lessons. "The Russians changed their modus operandi by compartmentalizing the city, and especially by using gliding bombs on a large scale for the first time," notes this document. When a 155mm artillery shell carries 7 kg of explosive, the gliding bomb delivers between 200 and 700 kg and can thus pierce concrete structures more than 2 m thick. A hell for Ukrainian defenses, which lost more than 1,000 men per day. Furthermore, the Russians use sound suppressors on light infantry weapons to foil acoustic detection systems on the ground.

"The decision to retreat by the Ukrainian armed forces was a surprise," notes this last report, highlighting "its suddenness and lack of preparation," fearing that this choice was "more endured than decided by the Ukrainian command," suggesting a possible onset of "disarray."

"The Ukrainian armed forces have tactically shown that they do not possess the human and material capabilities [...] to hold a sector of the front that is subjected to the assailant's effort," continues the document. "The Ukrainian failure in Avdiivka shows that, despite the emergency deployment of an 'elite' brigade – the 3rd Azov Air Assault Brigade –, Kiev is not capable of locally restoring a sector of the front that collapses," alerts this last report.

What the Russians will do with this tactical success remains to be seen. Will they continue in the current mode of "nibbling and slowly shaking" the entire front line, or will they seek to "break through in depth"? "The terrain behind Avdiivka allows it," signals this recent document, also warning that Western sources tend to "underestimate" the Russians, themselves adept at the practice of "Maskirovka," "appearing weak when strong." According to this analysis, after two years of war, Russian forces have thus shown their ability to "develop operational endurance" that allows them to wage "a slow and long-intensity war based on the continuous attrition of the Ukrainian army."

Taking head take:



I know, I know, the Uke-bros will say..... "Nice try", but I saw some post on Twitter that said the Ukrainians have killed over 5 million Russians and only lost 12 guys and a Yugo (motor blew) so you should probably stop sucking off Putin. ;)

This was surely leaked by Kremlin spies/

From what I can tell, the inconvenient truth has been that no amount of new money will help if they don't get troops, something the once popular now fired former general demanded.

This probably becomes a larger European war. How can Ukraines neigbors risk Russias presence and the threat of returning to the former Warsaw Pact days (by force)? The chances of WWIII are high, again, we are to blame. The world was solely Americas in 1989, how many idiots undermined this advantage?

Western leaders are to blame for Russias rise, primarily by our ridiculous support of China for decades (without their support Russia cannot fight this war) and Europe in particular focusing on the climate change slush fund, not military. Just as her enemies predicted. Our governments effort to undermine even suggeting the source of covid was quite telling to our enemies...
 
A Ukrainian military victory now seems impossible"

It seems unlikely that Ukraine can drive out entrenched Russian forces.
It also seems unlikely that those Russian forces can launch a meaningful offensive.

So, what is the end game for Ukraine?

Continue to inflict major casualties on the Russian forces
Force Putin to expend endless money to support occupying troops
Break the morale of Russian troops who ask…..why are we here?
Wait for a military coup or public uprising against Putin
 
From what I can tell, the inconvenient truth has been that no amount of new money will help if they don't get troops, something the once popular now fired former general demanded.
I know where the Uke midget can get some:

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I wonder if "NATO troops in Ukraine" isn't a political ploy to excuse all the money and supplies that have been wasted there. The argument would be that Russia was on the verge of defeat except for traitorous opposition to putting boots on the ground.
 
I wonder if "NATO troops in Ukraine" isn't a political ploy to excuse all the money and supplies that have been wasted there. The argument would be that Russia was on the verge of defeat except for traitorous opposition to putting boots on the ground.

How was it wasted?

Ukraine is still fighting and Putin has hundreds of thousands of casualties

That military equipment is doing what is expected
 
This is an fascinating article in French magazine Marianne, who got access to "several confidential defense reports" from the French army on the situation in Ukraine.

Guerre en Ukraine : de la prudence à l'affolement… Ce que cache le virage de Macron
Translated:

The situation looks exceedingly bleak for Ukraine, which might in part explain Macron's recent declarations around sending troops to Ukraine. I translated the important parts of the article:

"A Ukrainian military victory now seems impossible"

The reports Marianne consulted write that Ukraine's counter-offensive "gradually bogged down in mud and blood and did not result in any strategic gain" and that its planning, conceived by Kiev and Western general staffs, turned out to be "disastrous": "Planners thought that once the first Russian defense lines were breached, the entire front would collapse [...] These fundamental preliminary phases were conducted without considering the moral forces of the enemy in defense: that is, the will of the Russian soldier to hold onto the terrain".

The reports also highlight "the inadequacy of the training of Ukrainian soldiers and officers": due to a lack of officers and a significant number of veterans, these "Year II soldiers" from Ukraine - often trained for "no more than three weeks" - were launched into an assault on a Russian fortification line that proved impregnable.

Without any air support, with disparate Western equipment that was less efficient than the old Soviet material ("obsolete, easy to maintain, and capable of being used in degraded mode", the report mentions), the Ukrainian troops had no hope of breaking through. Add to this the "Russian super-dominance in the field of electronic jamming penalizing, on the Ukrainian side, the use of drones and command systems".

"The Russian army is today the 'tactical and technical' reference for thinking and implementing the defensive mode," writes the report. Not only does Moscow have heavy engineering equipment that allowed it to construct defensive works ("almost total absence of this material on the Ukrainian side, and the impossibility for Westerners to supply it quickly") but the 1,200 km front, known as the Sourokovine line (after a Russian general), has been mined to a huge extent.

The reports also highlight that contrary to Ukraine "the Russians have managed their reserve troops well, to ensure operational endurance." According to this document, Moscow reinforces its units before they are completely worn out, mixes recruits with experienced troops, ensures regular rest periods in the rear... and "always had a coherent reserve force to manage unforeseen events." This is far from the widespread idea in the West of a Russian army sending its troops to the slaughter without counting...

"To date, the Ukrainian general staff does not have a critical mass of land forces capable of inter-arms maneuver at the corps level capable of challenging their Russian counterparts to break through its defensive line," concludes this confidential defense report, according to which "the gravest error of analysis and judgment would be to continue to seek exclusively military solutions to stop the hostilities". A French officer summarizes: "It is clear, given the forces present, that Ukraine cannot win this war militarily."

"The conflict entered a critical phase in December"
"The combativeness of Ukrainian soldiers is deeply affected," mentions a forward-looking report for the year 2024. "Zelensky would need 35,000 men per month, he's not recruiting half of that, while Putin draws from a pool of 30,000 volunteers per month," observes a military officer returned from Kiev. In terms of equipment, the balance is just as unbalanced: the failed offensive of 2023 "tactically destroyed" half of Kiev's 12 combat brigades.

Since then, Western aid has never been so low. It is therefore clear that no Ukrainian offensive can be launched this year. "The West can supply 3D printers to manufacture drones or loitering munitions, but can never print men," notes this report. "Given the situation, it may have been decided to strengthen the Ukrainian army, not with fighters, but with support forces, in the rear, allowing Ukrainian soldiers to be freed up for the front," admits a senior officer, confirming a "ramp-up" of Western military personnel in civilian clothes. "Besides the Americans, who allowed the New York Times to visit a CIA camp, there are quite a few Britons," slips a military officer, who does not deny the presence of French special forces, notably combat swimmers for training missions...

"The risk of a Russian breakthrough is real"
On February 17, Kiev had to abandon the city of Avdiivka, in the northern suburbs of Donetsk, which had until then been a fortified stronghold. "It was both the heart and symbol of Ukrainian resistance in the Russian-speaking Donbass," highlights a report on the "battle of Avdiivka," drawing a series of damning lessons. "The Russians changed their modus operandi by compartmentalizing the city, and especially by using gliding bombs on a large scale for the first time," notes this document. When a 155mm artillery shell carries 7 kg of explosive, the gliding bomb delivers between 200 and 700 kg and can thus pierce concrete structures more than 2 m thick. A hell for Ukrainian defenses, which lost more than 1,000 men per day. Furthermore, the Russians use sound suppressors on light infantry weapons to foil acoustic detection systems on the ground.

"The decision to retreat by the Ukrainian armed forces was a surprise," notes this last report, highlighting "its suddenness and lack of preparation," fearing that this choice was "more endured than decided by the Ukrainian command," suggesting a possible onset of "disarray."

"The Ukrainian armed forces have tactically shown that they do not possess the human and material capabilities [...] to hold a sector of the front that is subjected to the assailant's effort," continues the document. "The Ukrainian failure in Avdiivka shows that, despite the emergency deployment of an 'elite' brigade – the 3rd Azov Air Assault Brigade –, Kiev is not capable of locally restoring a sector of the front that collapses," alerts this last report.

What the Russians will do with this tactical success remains to be seen. Will they continue in the current mode of "nibbling and slowly shaking" the entire front line, or will they seek to "break through in depth"? "The terrain behind Avdiivka allows it," signals this recent document, also warning that Western sources tend to "underestimate" the Russians, themselves adept at the practice of "Maskirovka," "appearing weak when strong." According to this analysis, after two years of war, Russian forces have thus shown their ability to "develop operational endurance" that allows them to wage "a slow and long-intensity war based on the continuous attrition of the Ukrainian army."

Talking head take:



I know, I know, the Uke-bros will say..... "Nice try", but I saw some post on Twitter that said the Ukrainians have killed over 5 million Russians and only lost 12 guys and a Yugo (motor blew) so you should probably stop sucking off Putin. ;)

Best advise to Ukraine: make peace, you fools!!
 
It seems unlikely that Ukraine can drive out entrenched Russian forces.
It also seems unlikely that those Russian forces can launch a meaningful offensive.

So, what is the end game for Ukraine?

Continue to inflict major casualties on the Russian forces
Force Putin to expend endless money to support occupying troops
Break the morale of Russian troops who ask…..why are we here?
Wait for a military coup or public uprising against Putin
If only Putin had Dominion vote flipping machines!!

If only!!
 
This is an fascinating article in French magazine Marianne, who got access to "several confidential defense reports" from the French army on the situation in Ukraine.

Guerre en Ukraine : de la prudence à l'affolement… Ce que cache le virage de Macron
Translated:

The situation looks exceedingly bleak for Ukraine, which might in part explain Macron's recent declarations around sending troops to Ukraine. I translated the important parts of the article:

"A Ukrainian military victory now seems impossible"

The reports Marianne consulted write that Ukraine's counter-offensive "gradually bogged down in mud and blood and did not result in any strategic gain" and that its planning, conceived by Kiev and Western general staffs, turned out to be "disastrous": "Planners thought that once the first Russian defense lines were breached, the entire front would collapse [...] These fundamental preliminary phases were conducted without considering the moral forces of the enemy in defense: that is, the will of the Russian soldier to hold onto the terrain".

The reports also highlight "the inadequacy of the training of Ukrainian soldiers and officers": due to a lack of officers and a significant number of veterans, these "Year II soldiers" from Ukraine - often trained for "no more than three weeks" - were launched into an assault on a Russian fortification line that proved impregnable.

Without any air support, with disparate Western equipment that was less efficient than the old Soviet material ("obsolete, easy to maintain, and capable of being used in degraded mode", the report mentions), the Ukrainian troops had no hope of breaking through. Add to this the "Russian super-dominance in the field of electronic jamming penalizing, on the Ukrainian side, the use of drones and command systems".

"The Russian army is today the 'tactical and technical' reference for thinking and implementing the defensive mode," writes the report. Not only does Moscow have heavy engineering equipment that allowed it to construct defensive works ("almost total absence of this material on the Ukrainian side, and the impossibility for Westerners to supply it quickly") but the 1,200 km front, known as the Sourokovine line (after a Russian general), has been mined to a huge extent.

The reports also highlight that contrary to Ukraine "the Russians have managed their reserve troops well, to ensure operational endurance." According to this document, Moscow reinforces its units before they are completely worn out, mixes recruits with experienced troops, ensures regular rest periods in the rear... and "always had a coherent reserve force to manage unforeseen events." This is far from the widespread idea in the West of a Russian army sending its troops to the slaughter without counting...

"To date, the Ukrainian general staff does not have a critical mass of land forces capable of inter-arms maneuver at the corps level capable of challenging their Russian counterparts to break through its defensive line," concludes this confidential defense report, according to which "the gravest error of analysis and judgment would be to continue to seek exclusively military solutions to stop the hostilities". A French officer summarizes: "It is clear, given the forces present, that Ukraine cannot win this war militarily."

"The conflict entered a critical phase in December"
"The combativeness of Ukrainian soldiers is deeply affected," mentions a forward-looking report for the year 2024. "Zelensky would need 35,000 men per month, he's not recruiting half of that, while Putin draws from a pool of 30,000 volunteers per month," observes a military officer returned from Kiev. In terms of equipment, the balance is just as unbalanced: the failed offensive of 2023 "tactically destroyed" half of Kiev's 12 combat brigades.

Since then, Western aid has never been so low. It is therefore clear that no Ukrainian offensive can be launched this year. "The West can supply 3D printers to manufacture drones or loitering munitions, but can never print men," notes this report. "Given the situation, it may have been decided to strengthen the Ukrainian army, not with fighters, but with support forces, in the rear, allowing Ukrainian soldiers to be freed up for the front," admits a senior officer, confirming a "ramp-up" of Western military personnel in civilian clothes. "Besides the Americans, who allowed the New York Times to visit a CIA camp, there are quite a few Britons," slips a military officer, who does not deny the presence of French special forces, notably combat swimmers for training missions...

"The risk of a Russian breakthrough is real"
On February 17, Kiev had to abandon the city of Avdiivka, in the northern suburbs of Donetsk, which had until then been a fortified stronghold. "It was both the heart and symbol of Ukrainian resistance in the Russian-speaking Donbass," highlights a report on the "battle of Avdiivka," drawing a series of damning lessons. "The Russians changed their modus operandi by compartmentalizing the city, and especially by using gliding bombs on a large scale for the first time," notes this document. When a 155mm artillery shell carries 7 kg of explosive, the gliding bomb delivers between 200 and 700 kg and can thus pierce concrete structures more than 2 m thick. A hell for Ukrainian defenses, which lost more than 1,000 men per day. Furthermore, the Russians use sound suppressors on light infantry weapons to foil acoustic detection systems on the ground.

"The decision to retreat by the Ukrainian armed forces was a surprise," notes this last report, highlighting "its suddenness and lack of preparation," fearing that this choice was "more endured than decided by the Ukrainian command," suggesting a possible onset of "disarray."

"The Ukrainian armed forces have tactically shown that they do not possess the human and material capabilities [...] to hold a sector of the front that is subjected to the assailant's effort," continues the document. "The Ukrainian failure in Avdiivka shows that, despite the emergency deployment of an 'elite' brigade – the 3rd Azov Air Assault Brigade –, Kiev is not capable of locally restoring a sector of the front that collapses," alerts this last report.

What the Russians will do with this tactical success remains to be seen. Will they continue in the current mode of "nibbling and slowly shaking" the entire front line, or will they seek to "break through in depth"? "The terrain behind Avdiivka allows it," signals this recent document, also warning that Western sources tend to "underestimate" the Russians, themselves adept at the practice of "Maskirovka," "appearing weak when strong." According to this analysis, after two years of war, Russian forces have thus shown their ability to "develop operational endurance" that allows them to wage "a slow and long-intensity war based on the continuous attrition of the Ukrainian army."

Talking head take:



I know, I know, the Uke-bros will say..... "Nice try", but I saw some post on Twitter that said the Ukrainians have killed over 5 million Russians and only lost 12 guys and a Yugo (motor blew) so you should probably stop sucking off Putin. ;)

Some French soldiers have already been buried in Donbass, Russia should take some of those maggots alive.
 
It seems unlikely that Ukraine can drive out entrenched Russian forces.
It also seems unlikely that those Russian forces can launch a meaningful offensive.

So, what is the end game for Ukraine?

Continue to inflict major casualties on the Russian forces
Force Putin to expend endless money to support occupying troops
Break the morale of Russian troops who ask…..why are we here?
Wait for a military coup or public uprising against Putin

You're far too dumb to realize this, of course, but that was the exact strategy South Vietnam went with. You're also too dumb to know what the outcome was, but maybe someone can explain it to you.

In the meantime, keep supporting the president who's so weak, Putin felt free to invade Ukraine as soon as he took office.
 
You're far too dumb to realize this, of course, but that was the exact strategy South Vietnam went with. You're also too dumb to know what the outcome was, but maybe someone can explain it to you.

In the meantime, keep supporting the president who's so weak, Putin felt free to invade Ukraine as soon as he took office.
Wrong again Skippy

That was the strategy N Vietnam used to drive out the US
 
It seems unlikely that Ukraine can drive out entrenched Russian forces.
It also seems unlikely that those Russian forces can launch a meaningful offensive.

So, what is the end game for Ukraine?

Continue to inflict major casualties on the Russian forces
Force Putin to expend endless money to support occupying troops
Break the morale of Russian troops who ask…..why are we here?
Wait for a military coup or public uprising against Putin
The Russian troops know why they are there trust me, this isn't Vietnam when your boys were 13k miles from small town America, the Russian soldiers know this is an attack on their Country through Ukrainian puppets.
 
Who exactly is doing the attacking?
Are Russians that stupid?
NATO, there have been attempted missile attacks on strategic Russian nuclear early warning Radar sites that can detect incoming nuclear missiles from a great distance, don't tell me those Ukrainian retards are responsible, this is the total insanity the US are playing with a senile arsehole in charge of the US, it's just a question of when Russia decides they are out of patience and start taking NATO assets down.
 

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