Lawsuit: Michigan teacher tried to force Palestinian American student to stand for Pledge

[Stryder50]

Wrong.
It is the teacher who attempted to subvert the whole point of a republic.
The student should be praised for being smart and honorable.
It is those who support the crimes by Israel who should be deported.

Disagree.
It's neo-Nazis who support the crimes of Islamic Jihad, such as you, who need to be deported.
Pick a Sharia Law ruled nation of your choice, you won't be missed from here !

 

[Rigby5]

"Palestinians" are not indigenous.
Jews were in that land 4000+ years ago, have claim predating "Palestinians".
The student is an illegal terrorist here in our country and should receive a free one-way ticket out and to another nation of their choice.

That is ridiculously ignorant and false.
No one knows where the Hebrew were until they went to Egypt around 1600 BC.
But they probably were sheep herders in the Sinai, since that was the only place with a drought.
The Hebrew voluntarily stayed in Egypt for over 400 years.
So around 1000 BC they left Egypt and illegally invaded the Land of Canaan.
And became notoriously disliked for massacring the Canaanite women and children, at places they invaded, like Jericho.
They angered everyone with their slaughter so much that within 200 years the Assyrians defeated them and made them leave.
They never ruled again.
So the Hebrew only have 200 years of rule, and likely it was just the city states of Samaria, Judea, and Israel.
The Hebrew were constantly trying to attack and were constantly defeated.
They were defeated by the Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Seleucids, and Romans.

In contrast, the Palestinians are the Canaanites, the Chaldeans, Amorites, Urites, Nabateans, Akkadians, Phoenicians, Philistines, etc. that go back to 8000 BC.

 

[Stryder50]

That is ridiculously ignorant and false.
No one knows where the Hebrew were until they went to Egypt around 1600 BC.
But they probably were sheep herders in the Sinai, since that was the only place with a drought.
The Hebrew voluntarily stayed in Egypt for over 400 years.
So around 1000 BC they left Egypt and illegally invaded the Land of Canaan.
And became notoriously disliked for massacring the Canaanite women and children, at places they invaded, like Jericho.
They angered everyone with their slaughter so much that within 200 years the Assyrians defeated them and made them leave.
They never ruled again.
So the Hebrew only have 200 years of rule, and likely it was just the city states of Samaria, Judea, and Israel.
The Hebrew were constantly trying to attack and were constantly defeated.
They were defeated by the Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Seleucids, and Romans.

In contrast, the Palestinians are the Canaanites, the Chaldeans, Amorites, Urites, Nabateans, Akkadians, Phoenicians, Philistines, etc. that go back to 8000 BC.

Go peddle your 'pravda' in another land of your choice for residence komrade.
We don't need wast of skin like you here in the USA.
Many other shithole nation's on this planet are more suited for slime like you.

 

[Rigby5]

This isn't a First Amendment issue, far from it. Not standing and saying the pledge is like spitting in the face of your benefactor and biting the hand that feeds you.

If your government gives you rights and privileges, you should be required to swear allegiance to it. You should be made to show appreciation for the freedom you enjoy.

WRONG!

This is supposed to be a "republic", and if you understand what a republic is, no one in a republic is ever supposed to "pledge allegiance" to the government.
It is supposed to be totally the other way around, where the government is supposed to pledge its allegiance to us, the public.
Pledging allegiance to a government is an absolute dictatorship and should never be allowed.
That is the whole point of the first amendment, to encourage dissent.
The government is supposed to be under us, not above us.

 

[Rigby5]

Disagree.
It's neo-Nazis who support the crimes of Islamic Jihad, such as you, who need to be deported.
Pick a Sharia Law ruled nation of your choice, you won't be missed from here !

Wrong.
The evidence is clear.
The British did a census in 1922 and there were only about 30k Jews in Palestine, and they owned no land and lived in the Old Quarter of Jerusalem.
So then all the Israelis, are recent illegal immigrants, who took over illegally by murder.
It started in 1946 when Menachem Begin blew up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel.

You are totally uninformed.
Any real Jew, like me, can tell you that the Zionists are in violation of the Rabbinical Diaspora Decree of 160 AD.

The most "neo-Nazi" country is Israel.
They are the most racist, violent, and criminal.

 

[TemplarKormac]

WRONG!

This is supposed to be a "republic", and if you understand what a republic is, no one in a republic is ever supposed to "pledge allegiance" to the government.
It is supposed to be totally the other way around, where the government is supposed to pledge its allegiance to us, the public.
Pledging allegiance to a government is an absolute dictatorship and should never be allowed.
That is the whole point of the first amendment, to encourage dissent.
The government is supposed to be under us, not above us.

Don't preach to me, you erratic creature.

Swearing allegiance is a form of showing appreciation for the rights and privileges you've been given. If you can't swear allegiance, you don't appreciate what you were given.

When I was sixteen, I showed a similar lack of appreciation while living in my Dad's house and he kicked me the f**k out. The government isn't supposed to be above us, but it does control us. We live at its mercy when the laws are just. Being forced to swear allegiance is a small price to pay for your freedom. There are brave men and women in the armed forces who spill blood and sacrifice their well-being on our behalf so that we may keep it.

Say the pledge, ingrate.

 

[Rigby5]

Go peddle your 'pravda' in another land of your choice for residence komrade.
We don't need wast of skin like you here in the USA.
Many other shithole nation's on this planet are more suited for slime like you.

Wrong.
Israel is a fake country created by murder and extortion.
The Israelis never paid for the homes they stole.
Menachem Begin actually invented terrorism by blowing up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel.

 

[progressive hunter]

‘A Palestinian American student in Michigan is suing a middle school teacher and Plymouth-Canton Community Schools, claiming in federal court that the educator violated the student's First Amendment right by attempting to force the student to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. The East Middle School teacher, Carissa Soranno, according to the lawsuit, allegedly told the student, “Since you live in this country and enjoy its freedom, if you don’t like it, you should go back to your country.”

The student, 14, is referred to as D.K. in the suit and is represented in the claim in U.S. District Court in Detroit by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Michigan and Arab American Civil Rights League. The student did not want to stand for the pledge because she believes the U.S. government has supported Israel in the Israel-Hamas war that has devastated Gaza and left thousands dead, according to the claim.

The suit, filed June 25, asks for a judgment that finds the educator's actions unconstitutional and awards damages, claiming Soranno's actions inflicted emotional distress on the student. A spokesperson for Plymouth-Canton Community Schools did not immediately respond to a request for comment from the Detroit Free Press, part of the USA TODAY Network. Soranno did not answer a voicemail left by a reporter at a phone number associated with her name.

"The right to freely speak — or not speak — is a form of protest that is fundamental to a well-functioning democracy — even when its exercise creates controversy or makes others uncomfortable," wrote Bonitsu Kitaba, interim legal director for the ACLU of Michigan, in a news release.’

Lawsuit: Michigan teacher tried to force Palestinian American student to stand for Pledge

A Palestinian American student in Michigan is suing a middle school teacher and school district, claiming the educator violated the First Amendment.

www.usatoday.com

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette (1943): students can’t be compelled to say the Pledge of Allegiance in public school.

no such thing as a Palestinian american

 

[progressive hunter]

WRONG!

This is supposed to be a "republic", and if you understand what a republic is, no one in a republic is ever supposed to "pledge allegiance" to the government.
It is supposed to be totally the other way around, where the government is supposed to pledge its allegiance to us, the public.
Pledging allegiance to a government is an absolute dictatorship and should never be allowed.
That is the whole point of the first amendment, to encourage dissent.
The government is supposed to be under us, not above us.

its a pledge to the flag and constitutional republic you stupid ****,,

 

[Rigby5]

Don't preach to me, you erratic creature.

Swearing allegiance is a form of showing appreciation for the rights and privileges you've been given. If you can't swear allegiance, you don't appreciate what you were given.

When I was sixteen, I showed a similar lack of appreciation while living in my Dad's house and he kicked me the f**k out. The government isn't supposed to be above us, but it does control us. We live at its mercy when the laws are just. Being forced to swear allegiance is a small price to pay for your freedom. There are brave men and women in the armed forces who spill blood and sacrifice their well-being on our behalf so that we may keep it.

Say the pledge, ingrate.

Wrong.
This country does lots of things that are wrong, like slavery, the Spanish American war, Prohibition, WWI, Vietnam, etc.
To improve this country, you can never allow anyone to pledge allegiance to the government, which actually is always at least slightly corrupt.
We each are obligated to constantly work against the corruption of government and the evil things they keep trying to do.
For example, the 3 million innocent Vietnamese we murdered.
Anyone who ignored that and pledges allegiance is complicit in the guilt of those murders.

 

[Stryder50]

Wrong.
The evidence is clear.
The British did a census in 1922 and there were only about 30k Jews in Palestine, and they owned no land and lived in the Old Quarter of Jerusalem.
So then all the Israelis, are recent illegal immigrants, who took over illegally by murder.
It started in 1946 when Menachem Begin blew up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel.

You are totally uninformed.
Any real Jew, like me, can tell you that the Zionists are in violation of the Rabbinical Diaspora Decree of 160 AD.

The most "neo-Nazi" country is Israel.
They are the most racist, violent, and criminal.

 

[Rigby5]

no such thing as a Palestinian american

Wrong.
If from Palestinian heritage, they are Palestinian.
But they can be a US citizens by being born here, given asylum or work green card, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

its a pledge to the flag and constitutional republic you stupid ****,,

Wrong.
Pledging to a flag is even worse.
And if we do illegal things like try to install Diem as dictator in Vietnam, we are not really a republic at all.

 

[Stryder50]

Wrong.
This country does lots of things that are wrong, like slavery, the Spanish American war, Prohibition, WWI, Vietnam, etc.
To improve this country, you can never allow anyone to pledge allegiance to the government, which actually is always at least slightly corrupt.
We each are obligated to constantly work against the corruption of government and the evil things they keep trying to do.
For example, the 3 million innocent Vietnamese we murdered.
Anyone who ignored that and pledges allegiance is complicit in the guilt of those murders.

The Vietnamese and other South East Asians I worked with several years ago would disagree with you Komrade.
They considered the communist of North Vietnam and their Russian and Chinese allies and enablers to be the murders of "innocent Vietnamese".

You need to leave here and go to the communist nation of your choice where you belong.
We don't need liars and traitors like you inside our nation.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It’s a minor in a public school. They don’t have certain ‘rights’ in that context. They can be dismissed and sent home where they can sit through any pledge they want. But the school has rules.
Democrat adults here acting like children again.

 

[progressive hunter]

Wrong.
Pledging to a flag is even worse.
And if we do illegal things like try to install Diem as dictator in Vietnam, we are not really a republic at all.

the flag represents our constitutional republic,,

you have a serious mental problem,,

 

[Stryder50]

Wrong.
If from Palestinian heritage, they are Palestinian.
But they can be a US citizens by being born here, given asylum or work green card, etc.

I'm from Armenian heritage and you Islamic scum committed genocide on my people less than a century ago.
Get your camel dung eating slime back to one of those Muslim shithole nations where you belong.

 

[Eman623]

Don't ever try to become a citizen.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Wrong.
This country does lots of things that are wrong, like slavery, the Spanish American war, Prohibition, WWI, Vietnam, etc.
To improve this country, you can never allow anyone to pledge allegiance to the government, which actually is always at least slightly corrupt.
We each are obligated to constantly work against the corruption of government and the evil things they keep trying to do.
For example, the 3 million innocent Vietnamese we murdered.
Anyone who ignored that and pledges allegiance is complicit in the guilt of those murders.

None of that is an excuse to be a jackass. Stand up and say the pledge. You have been given a unique set of freedoms that exist sparsely throughout the world. Show some appreciation for it.

 

[cnm]

Happened to me as well, back in Vietnam era.
The pledge of allegiance is illegal to mandate.
That would violated the first amendment.
This is not "meaningless" or "nonsense".
It is crucial to any republic.

Except a MAGAt republic, which is the republic one has when one has a king.