No it's not a deflection, you guys refer to Palestinian nationalists as 'Islamic terrorists', while you guys support the biggest Islamic terrorists ever known to man kind right next door in Syria!
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No it's not a deflection, you guys refer to Palestinian nationalists as 'Islamic terrorists', while you guys support the biggest Islamic terrorists ever known to man kind right next door in Syria!
Not even close. The UN gave up on negotiations and bailed out with the British May 15 1948. The Israeli's declared statehood and presented the legal documents of a fully formed government to the UN however the Arab league attack changed everything.
Israel was won by conquest. It wasn't a negotiated nation like Iran, Syria, Jordan and so on. Unlike all the Arab nations created by the UN Israel did it the hard way, and continues to do so.
Its a testimony to native people will and determination everywhere and I give them a lot of credit for standing firm in the face of such overwhelming racism and hatred.
But again you are miles off topic. The subject is the seizure of terrorist weapons. Which I fully support. Actually I'd support the seizure of the weapons and the repatriation of the combatants, those who assisted the combatants and those suspected of assisting and being combatants. Exactly as specified in the Geneva Conventions.
So you have nothing to support your argument other than the term occupied which doesn't specify ownership in any way ?
Also you seem to be having difficulty in sticking on topic, there are numerous threads concerning this issue, yet you continually ignore forum rules and deviate from this subject on this thread.
I'm not making an argument, I'm stating obvious facts. Which you are denying. I didn't break any rules, the lunatic girl referred to nationalists as 'Islamic terrorists', even though many Palestinians aren't Muslim. But it's very ironic since Israel supports Al Qaeda and ISIS terrorists right next door. And you're trying to cover that up. Islamic terrorists are your allies against Palestinians, Lebanese and Syrian people.
Israel supports ISIS and Al Qaeda on the border with Syria and provide them air support otherwise they wouldn't survive against the Syrian army! You support Islamic terrorists!
There is no nation called palestine ergo there can be no palestinian nationalists. For that matter there can be palestinians.
Which is why some of us insist on using the correct term, Arab Muslims in Israel. From the river to the sea, Israel will be free, perhaps you recognize the slogan.
We already have a two state solution, Jordan and Israel. Jordan is Arab Muslim and Israel is Judaic. The only difference is that the Judaic people are trying to live in peace with their Arab Muslims, whereas on the other side of the river the Arab Muslims confiscated all Judaic lands and moneys and forced them out.
Its the difference between the Arab mindset and the Judaic mind set. The Judiac people espouse the concepts of equality and freedom and the Arab Muslims the concepts of racism and bigotry, subjugation and apartheid.
I think its a testimony to the difference between how a native people ( the Israeli's ) treats colonists vs how colonists ( the Arab Muslims ) treat native people.
But again our topic is weapons in the hands of terrorists/combatants and Israel's right to seize them
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Keep up the good work Israel. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!
Goes well with my theory that its a lack of education that leads to these kinda views.
You haven't stated fact at all. You've expressed opinion. Had you stated fact you'd be able to support those facts, but you haven't.
You stated that international law supported your view and you were asked what international law that was.
You've failed to present that law.
Many of us here know you can't because we've been over it a thousand times and there isn't one ;--)
But my favorite part is the fact that you appear incapable of sticking to the subject which in this case is Israel's right to maintain the peace. Which is stated in international law. ;--)
Israel has every right and actually an obligation to prevent arms from entering the area.
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Arts. 82, 84 Geneva Conventions
Prisoners are subject to the laws of their captors and can be tried by their captors’ courts. The captor shall ensure fairness, impartiality and a competent advocate for the prisoner.
Arts. 79-135
If security allows, civilians must be permitted to lead normal lives. They are not to be deported or interned—except for imperative reasons of security. If internment is necessary, conditions should be at least comparable to those set forth for prisoners of war.
Art. 35
Use of weapons that “cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering,” as well as means of warfare that “cause widespread, long-term, and severe damage to the natural environment” are prohibited.
Arts. 51, 54
Outlaws indiscriminate attacks on civilian populations.
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Chew on those for a while and get back to us with that international law that at least in your world gave any land to the Arab Muslims west of the Jordan.
Meanwhile we'll carry on discussing the seizure of weapons, which is perfectly legal under Israeli law which is covered in the Geneva Conventions/international law.
So if the US occupied part of Mexico according to your mentality and criteria it would be Palestinian land. When Israel occupied the Sinai was that also Palestinian land.
Since when has firing illegal weapons at Israeli children been resistance to an occupying force, and where does it say that in 242 ?
Yes and in 1967 when it was occupied and these authorities deemed it was occupied it was Jordanian territory, and not Palestinian. Which is why Isreal under the G.C. enforces Jordanian laws in the west bank.
Now stop deflecting and produce the evidence that shows that the west bank is Palestinian land under International law as you claim ?
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Gentle reminder about the topic. I/P forum discussions must follow the SPECIFIC topic.
Do not want threads that all end up in brawls about ancient claims.
If it's not about the arms embargo and weapons seizures -- find a more suitable thread to have the "larger discussion" about who owns what and why.
Gentle reminder about the topic. I/P forum discussions must follow the SPECIFIC topic.
Do not want threads that all end up in brawls about ancient claims.
If it's not about the arms embargo and weapons seizures -- find a more suitable thread to have the "larger discussion" about who owns what and why.
Well that was a perfect example of disrespecting the forum rules.
Israel is well within its rights to seize weapons. As the controlling power it has an obligation to maintain security and safety of the region.
Rocco has presented some detailed review of the international laws involved but its spelled out much more simply in the Geneva conventions
See previous post
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Article 43 of the Hague Regulations of 1907 reads in the most widely adopted English translation4 of the original authentic French5 text:
“The authority of the legitimate power having in fact passed into the hands of the occupant, the latter shall take all the measures in his power to restore and ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety, while respecting, unless absolutely prevented, the laws in force in the country.”
Ensuring the pubic safety amid the constant terrorist attacks by persons of non protected status requires a confiscation of weapons from the general public as the UNRWA failed to segregate at any time since the onset of hostilities combatants from refugees or civilians within the Arab Muslim population of Israel.
Israel is well within its rights to seize weapons. As the controlling power it has an obligation to maintain security and safety of the region.
Rocco has presented some detailed review of the international laws involved but its spelled out much more simply in the Geneva conventions
See previous post
Also see
Article 43 of the Hague Regulations of 1907 reads in the most widely adopted English translation4 of the original authentic French5 text:
“The authority of the legitimate power having in fact passed into the hands of the occupant, the latter shall take all the measures in his power to restore and ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety, while respecting, unless absolutely prevented, the laws in force in the country.”
Ensuring the pubic safety amid the constant terrorist attacks by persons of non protected status requires a confiscation of weapons from the general public as the UNRWA failed to segregate at any time since the onset of hostilities combatants from refugees or civilians within the Arab Muslim population of Israel.
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Palestinian weapons smuggling to be used against Israel has been going on since Arafat. Some thing never change with Palestinians.
Israel Captures Weapons Bound For Palestinian Authority
Israel Captures Weapons Bound For Palestinian Authority
WRONG I condemn all terrorists no matter what the designation. And there is no such thing as Palestinian nationalism, it is just arab muslim nationalism. You on the other hand defend and support the mass murder of children, genocide and the murder of American civilians in the name of islamonazi international terrorism.
How many of the Palestinians taking part in terrorist activities and targeting Israeli children with illegal weapons are not muslims then. The last time I looked the arab muslims were in the throws of wiping out all the non muslims from Palestine and have reduced their population by 90% in just a few short years. This puts the population of Palestine that is non muslim at 1% so hardly "many" is it. ( to clarify the non muslim population was 10% of the full population, 90% have been ethnically cleansed by the muslims leaving just 1% of the total population non muslim )
How about a provable link then to your claims, and not some blog, islamonazi site or Nazi group ?
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