Last Night's Presidential Debate Was A National Embarrassment!

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The Presidential Debate last night was an embarrassment for America, Donald Trump's behavior was far worse but both candidates acted like school children not the statesmen the American people deserve! A fair evaluation would conclude Vice-President Biden protected his interests not much advanced it and President Donald Trump hurt his interests with such a person as President it is no wonder the Democrats and Republicans in Washington cannot come together and pass legislation the American people need passed!

It was nice to see Vice-President Biden have his moments where he demonstrated himself as a sharp leader, for instance, when he was talking about with what is needed to address the dissatisfaction with the police problem in America where he said most police officers are good people that put themselves in harm's way to protect us and there is a few bad apples and we need get them out of the job and how we need to get all the parties together and talk out the problems and figure out a way forward that works for everyone, etc.. But I think the Vice-president missed an opportunity with the debate to make the case for his candidacy. I got the impression that the Vice-President did not have the optimal perspective about the debate he should have viewed it as an interview for a job where the American people watching at home were the hiring managers and sell himself for the job of Presidency. Like when he talked about the ACA he repeatedly mentioned that the law provides health insurance for twenty million Americans and that is great but there is so much more that he could have said about the ACA the essential benefit mandate if you need inpatient treatment it is covered if you need prescription drugs it is covered, it covers preventive care which is critically valuable in lowering overall healthcare costs it puts mental health treatment in parity with physical health treatment, it has good out of pocket limits, etc., etc. etc..

The Vice-President's staff did not prepare him well they with he should have given him a simple strategy to implement when the moderator raised a major issue he should have been prepared with his important commentary he wanted to say on that and not be sidetracked. Like when the moderator raised the issue of where President Trump went wrong with his leadership on the Pandemic or to say it another way how would a President Biden have done things differently Vice -President Biden should have been there with at least one or two major strong points. He should have said President Trump dropped the ball on testing America should have had point of care testing months ago not these tests where we have to wait days for a response yada, yada, yada and this PPR even in September we still have hospitals that don't have an ample supply of N95 masks when the pandemic was clearly here in America in March and April Trump shouldn't have told governors across America I am not your shipping clerk for PPE go out in the international market and get it yourself the President back then should have used the Defense Production Act and quickly domestically manufactured all the N95 face masks the U.S. healthcare system would need.

Vice-President Biden's staff did a poor job in preparing the Vice-President for the debate the staff should have had a handout for the VP with likely questions and good responses in bullet proof form and there was many issues here. One can see the questions Biden faced from a mile away and he shouldn't have struggled for answers his staff should have better prepped him. Like the one where Trump says to Biden you say America needed good tax reform you were in Washington 47 years shy didn't you get it done. Biden should have responded that when I was VP President Obama and I passed a great tax bill into law it extended the Bush tax cuts on lower and middle income Americans and eliminated them for wealthy Americans and fixed a lot of yearly reoccurring problems in the tax code and for the prior thirty-five plus years when I was just a Senator there has been a bipartisan recognition in Washington that the tax code needed to be reformed and loophole closed for decades but special interests have thrown up roadblocks but I will tell you that America never faced trillion dollar plus yearly deficits where the deficit trajectory is even worse and so a President Biden is making a top priority closing these loop holes. Another of these easily anticipated questions was VP Biden your planning to raise taxes by three to four trillion dollars over ten years won't you hurt the economy Biden's response should have been too many American's are getting short shrifted today America is failing them miserably I am raiding this three to four trillion dollars and giving it to young men and women so they can pay for college, low and middle income families so they can pay for child care, help for families to buy their first home so they can build wealth and the ten plus other good things he wants to do!

Biden's staff should have warned Biden do not allow yourself to be pulled into following Trump down rabbit holes, stick to the important issues who really cares that Trump plays the tax code so he pays little in taxes focus on the changes to the tax code like I am going to have a fifteen percent minimum tax so these billion dollar corporation pay their fair share of taxes. Biden's staff should advise Biden to not respond to every little point Trump makes the American people know that Trump's points are often garbage we don't need your laugh over them to realize this we want to hear how you will improve and protect America! VP Biden did have some really good moments him acknowledging that he won the Democrat primary so he sets the agenda for the Democrat Party that is the way the system works and his courage to further acknowledge that the green new deal platform which will cost a fortune is not his climate protection plan his won't break the bank!
.....that's a lot of babble crap you have there .....no, no embarrassment for the US......
 

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It was an embarrassment for Biden. The left is pleading with him to not do any more debates. They just can’t handle President Trump trolling him with questions about his corruption and abysmal record.
No, trump embarrassed himself and this country.
no--that was Biden
 

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It was an embarrassment for Biden. The left is pleading with him to not do any more debates. They just can’t handle President Trump trolling him with questions about his corruption and abysmal record.
I am not the Left nor the Right and I want to see the other two. But I want a change to the venue. Have both Candidates wear shock collars triggered by the Moderator when they get out of control or have the Moderator have a Fire Hose to Hose an out of control participant. Preferably both where we get to see a really out of control Rump drop to the floor with a wet, shorted out shock color.
 

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trump acted like the mouthy whore he is. This "debate" proved what I thought all along. He can't keep his pie-hole zipped when he is not supposed to be talking.
 

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Whether it turns out to be Biden or Trump, it will be for more tears.
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A giant bottle of this would be preferable.
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Sorry, but most of us don't speak whatever language that is. Translate please. If you have to explain your humor, it's not funny.
 

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It was an embarrassment for Biden. The left is pleading with him to not do any more debates. They just can’t handle President Trump trolling him with questions about his corruption and abysmal record.
No, trump embarrassed himself and this country.
Biden was an embarrassment. He flat out lied about Hunter taking millions from Russia and China. He refused to answer the question about stacking the Supreme Court. He was a coward.
You apparently were not watching the same debate and it's not really wise for trump to talk about taking money from china or russia.
 

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The Presidential Debate last night was an embarrassment for America, Donald Trump's behavior was far worse but both candidates acted like school children not the statesmen the American people deserve! A fair evaluation would conclude Vice-President Biden protected his interests not much advanced it and President Donald Trump hurt his interests with such a person as President it is no wonder the Democrats and Republicans in Washington cannot come together and pass legislation the American people need passed!

It was nice to see Vice-President Biden have his moments where he demonstrated himself as a sharp leader, for instance, when he was talking about with what is needed to address the dissatisfaction with the police problem in America where he said most police officers are good people that put themselves in harm's way to protect us and there is a few bad apples and we need get them out of the job and how we need to get all the parties together and talk out the problems and figure out a way forward that works for everyone, etc.. But I think the Vice-president missed an opportunity with the debate to make the case for his candidacy. I got the impression that the Vice-President did not have the optimal perspective about the debate he should have viewed it as an interview for a job where the American people watching at home were the hiring managers and sell himself for the job of Presidency. Like when he talked about the ACA he repeatedly mentioned that the law provides health insurance for twenty million Americans and that is great but there is so much more that he could have said about the ACA the essential benefit mandate if you need inpatient treatment it is covered if you need prescription drugs it is covered, it covers preventive care which is critically valuable in lowering overall healthcare costs it puts mental health treatment in parity with physical health treatment, it has good out of pocket limits, etc., etc. etc..

The Vice-President's staff did not prepare him well they with he should have given him a simple strategy to implement when the moderator raised a major issue he should have been prepared with his important commentary he wanted to say on that and not be sidetracked. Like when the moderator raised the issue of where President Trump went wrong with his leadership on the Pandemic or to say it another way how would a President Biden have done things differently Vice -President Biden should have been there with at least one or two major strong points. He should have said President Trump dropped the ball on testing America should have had point of care testing months ago not these tests where we have to wait days for a response yada, yada, yada and this PPR even in September we still have hospitals that don't have an ample supply of N95 masks when the pandemic was clearly here in America in March and April Trump shouldn't have told governors across America I am not your shipping clerk for PPE go out in the international market and get it yourself the President back then should have used the Defense Production Act and quickly domestically manufactured all the N95 face masks the U.S. healthcare system would need.

Vice-President Biden's staff did a poor job in preparing the Vice-President for the debate the staff should have had a handout for the VP with likely questions and good responses in bullet proof form and there was many issues here. One can see the questions Biden faced from a mile away and he shouldn't have struggled for answers his staff should have better prepped him. Like the one where Trump says to Biden you say America needed good tax reform you were in Washington 47 years shy didn't you get it done. Biden should have responded that when I was VP President Obama and I passed a great tax bill into law it extended the Bush tax cuts on lower and middle income Americans and eliminated them for wealthy Americans and fixed a lot of yearly reoccurring problems in the tax code and for the prior thirty-five plus years when I was just a Senator there has been a bipartisan recognition in Washington that the tax code needed to be reformed and loophole closed for decades but special interests have thrown up roadblocks but I will tell you that America never faced trillion dollar plus yearly deficits where the deficit trajectory is even worse and so a President Biden is making a top priority closing these loop holes. Another of these easily anticipated questions was VP Biden your planning to raise taxes by three to four trillion dollars over ten years won't you hurt the economy Biden's response should have been too many American's are getting short shrifted today America is failing them miserably I am raiding this three to four trillion dollars and giving it to young men and women so they can pay for college, low and middle income families so they can pay for child care, help for families to buy their first home so they can build wealth and the ten plus other good things he wants to do!

Biden's staff should have warned Biden do not allow yourself to be pulled into following Trump down rabbit holes, stick to the important issues who really cares that Trump plays the tax code so he pays little in taxes focus on the changes to the tax code like I am going to have a fifteen percent minimum tax so these billion dollar corporation pay their fair share of taxes. Biden's staff should advise Biden to not respond to every little point Trump makes the American people know that Trump's points are often garbage we don't need your laugh over them to realize this we want to hear how you will improve and protect America! VP Biden did have some really good moments him acknowledging that he won the Democrat primary so he sets the agenda for the Democrat Party that is the way the system works and his courage to further acknowledge that the green new deal platform which will cost a fortune is not his climate protection plan his won't break the bank!
If you believe the polls, all Biden has to do is par the next two holes and he wins.

Believing the polls is fraught with danger as we saw in 2016. So if the criterium for success or failure is winning or losing the election, he did what he needed to do.
This is not 2016. trump lost badly and I don't think trump will run over Lester Holt like he did Wallace.
 

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Once again, we were presented with two candidates that we cannot understand anyone voting for. One is an erratic, egocentric buffoon and the other an ineffective hack largely responsible for the mess in the Middle East. Of course, the show itself, called a debate, should so embarrass Americans that they boycott the whole affair.
Wrong. Biden is not responsible for the mess in the middle east. The choice is clear.
If Biden is not responsible, then he is irresponsible.
Did he not vote for the illegal invasion? Did he not support aggressive, pre-emptive war? Did he resist the Libyan and Syrian folly?
Just because we cannot support Biden does not mean we support Trump. Trump is indefensible, but Biden is unsupportable, not to mention that he isn't even really the candidate; it's Harris.
As is the case with Biden supporters, they never respond to this reality of the man. How is it that those who want social sensitivity and accountability are so selective when it comes to remembering gross errors in positions of power. This is how they are similar to Trump loyalists, who refuse to see the man's unbelievable defects.
 

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All these faux outrage whiners over the debate. Don’t run politics based off of the wackos ranting on Twitter if you prefer being “ professional “. Every asshole in the media ,on college campuses,Hollywood etc..with a blue check mark has run off at the mouth on Twitter with vile rhetoric. Well...that’s the age we are in. You created it...so learn to deal with it.
 
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Just my honest take

Trump shouldn’t have been on offense. He should have just let Biden do all the talking. Trump is on record for hrs everyday. Biden has been hiding the whole year of 2020 and few have heard from him.

Trumps goal should have been to expose Biden’s mental deficiencies. All he had to do was take Joes own advice and “shut up”. Biden had opportunities to slip up and show his dementia but Trump kept talking over him.

The the few undecided people don’t pay attention to actual policy. They don’t know what’s true or false. They only pay attention to the candidates demeanor. Trump was too aggressive and Biden could have defeated himself (Biden) but Trump spared him by interrupting him.

This was Biden’s to lose. Trump had nothing to win other than Biden embarrassing himself, which unfortunately he didn’t.

Neither side will lose any of their voters as 95% of people have probably made up their mind.
But the 5% of people who have been living under a rock and are clueless to policy and what’s going on in US politics are probably going to look at Biden as a “more presidential candidate “

If Biden slipped up bad like in his press conferences and interviews, Trump would have won the 5% and some so-called “old school democrats/independents/middle of the road” people who have been supporting Biden.
 

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