Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[NYcarbineer]

Well, there is one more issue, and that is the types of firearms people have access to.

This guy was using automatic weapons. One shot at a time would not have done this.
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Is this the guy?
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Pray and spray is not accuracy... firearms do not kill people people kill people

Then you support people control over gun control?

Such as not allowing felons to buy guns?

Enforce current laws... New frivolous ones will not save a single soul

Current law allows felons to avoid background checks to buy guns.

 

[Vastator]

You assume he got the guns just before he fired them into the crowd

That was a fully auto rifle which is THE most tightly controlled weapon in the country

He either had a federal permit for the gun or illegally obtained and /or modified it

then we shouldn't let people buy guns that can be easily modified to full auto. Or that were originally designed as battlefield weapons.

This seems pretty simple, except for the nutters who are compensating for their 'shortcomings'.

It is not easy converting in a semi automatic to auto… Of course she would not know that though. LOL

That reminds me... I need to order 2 bumpfire stocks as well Thanks.

 

[Peach]

Fully automatic machine gun, they are saying it almost sounds like a military weapon that you'd have a tripod for that is belt fed. The people were trapped in the venue as there were no exits behind them for security. What a horrible event. And what is wrong with people posting here that only see 'their team or the enemy's team' and a never ending ghoulish need to vomit a political statement out immediately. Disgusting.

The same haters have posted several times in the first three pages, not one of them has noted the horror of the event, had empathy for the fallen and their loved ones, and the fact that once again a gun was involved in a mass murder. In their hateful ignorance they are using Muslims and African-Americans as scapegoats, and will deny the obvious that they racists and bigots.

BTW Mods, their comments are totally off topic and lack substance. They arte divisive, anti patriotic and hateful.

If the gun didn't have a mentally ill liberal(redundant statement) pulling the trigger would the gun have shot all those people?

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Trigger-happy Americans are invariably right-wing haters.

No, sometimes there are no politics, religion, or specific 'hated' groups behind it, thus, the WHY is not an easy answer.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You assume he got the guns just before he fired them into the crowd

That was a fully auto rifle which is THE most tightly controlled weapon in the country

He either had a federal permit for the gun or illegally obtained and /or modified it

then we shouldn't let people buy guns that can be easily modified to full auto. Or that were originally designed as battlefield weapons.

This seems pretty simple, except for the nutters who are compensating for their 'shortcomings'.

It's not as easy as you think to modify a gun for full auto.

If it was there'd be a shit ton more of them floating around

 

[Brain357]

Is this the guy?
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Pray and spray is not accuracy... firearms do not kill people people kill people

Then you support people control over gun control?

Such as not allowing felons to buy guns?

Enforce current laws... New frivolous ones will not save a single soul

With current laws out country is filled with mass shootings, accidental shootings, cops killing people, people killing cops regularly...

This stuff is rare with gun control.

Na, current laws are not being enforced… Like criminal control.

What happens here regularly is rare with gun control. Fact.

And with more concealed carry violent crime is increasing.

 

[Pete7469]

It is not easy converting in a semi automatic to auto… Of course she would not know that though. LOL

It was not a fully automatic M4.

After seeing some of the video I would suggest it's one of those "bump fire" stocks. A full auto M4 can empty a 30 round mag in less than a second. It sounds like a rip rather distinct rapid shots.

I could be wrong, but that's how it sounded to me. I hope all the survivors recover quickly.

Someone who knew what they were doing would have killed a lot more people in the hour that asshole apparently had before he was taken out.

 

[Theowl32]

Someone said they couldn't tell if it was machine gun or helicopter. Hell, I could tell! That was a machine gun. Period. Not buts about it. I heard helicopter too but it sure doesn't sound like what I just heard. And if they were holed up in a motel room at the casino..they had plenty of targets being on the 29nd floor.

Makes little sense as far as hotel room window. I have never seen a window in any hotel room that can be opened.....especially in Vegas.

Although all reports are saying it was from a hotel room window. Just does not make sense.

It has been reported He broke the window.

Yeah, I read that. You have to really make an effort to break those windows. I am willing to bet people will come forward to say they heard massive banging.

I have been in those hotels (not Mandalay) and those windows are bulletproof sturdy windows made so they really are not suppose to be broken.

Strange.

 

[Brain357]

You assume he got the guns just before he fired them into the crowd

That was a fully auto rifle which is THE most tightly controlled weapon in the country

He either had a federal permit for the gun or illegally obtained and /or modified it

then we shouldn't let people buy guns that can be easily modified to full auto. Or that were originally designed as battlefield weapons.

This seems pretty simple, except for the nutters who are compensating for their 'shortcomings'.

It's not as easy as you think to modify a gun for full auto.

If it was there'd be a shit ton more of them floating around

A modern semi auto with high capacity mags is a mass killer.

 

[Rustic]

Pray and spray is not accuracy... firearms do not kill people people kill people

Then you support people control over gun control?

Such as not allowing felons to buy guns?

Enforce current laws... New frivolous ones will not save a single soul

With current laws out country is filled with mass shootings, accidental shootings, cops killing people, people killing cops regularly...

This stuff is rare with gun control.

Na, current laws are not being enforced… Like criminal control.

What happens here regularly is rare with gun control. Fact.

And with more concealed carry violent crime is increasing.

Most violent crime in the US is done by a repeat offenders, that's why we need much stronger criminal control…

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Of course this is retarded thinking.
No one could kill more than fifty and injure more than four hundred with any weapon other than a gun.

You ever hear of bombs? Are you that stupid?

No bombs in this attack, dope.
The cartoon shows physical attacks. Not bombs.

Bombs aren't physical attacks?

The cartoon I responded to did not feature bombs, dope.

bombs are the preferred method of mass killings in the world...

Which of course has nothing to do with the cartoon or my point.

 

[Correll]

Shootings are acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

Is the dumbest thing, this relation between some and guns. dozens of countries don't have this issue, simply because there's no easy access to guns...why can't americans give up their guns and live like many other countries live in Peace!!!

Because we don't want too, plus our Bill of Rights ensures this right

Next question

-Geaux

Prehistoric laws, they need to be changed so Americans can live in peace and in a civilized environment. It seems as if some want to stay in the era of the wild wild west.

The laws are just fine. They need to start enforcing them

-Geaux

Nope, very outdated....guns should be banned completly. Results? less mass shootings, and shootings all together. Proof? most countries have that in place.

And libs are constantly telling us, "we don't want to take you guns, why don't you believe us"?


HEY LEFTIES, THIS IS WHY!

 

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[NYcarbineer]

If the shooter had been Muslim, Trump would have used it as justification to permanently ban Muslim immigration

But since he was an older white male, he will just chalk it up to the weekly gun carnage our nation endures

Once again you ignore the mental health of the shooter. Had he been caught, those weapons would not have been used to kill anyone. That requires the hand of a cognizant (mentally unstable or otherwise) to use these weapons in that way. The weapons just don't animate themselves and start killing people.

Eh, perhaps I made a mistake logging on this morning... for I am being drawn into the politics of the matter.

Look...This is America

We do everything possible to ensure that someone planning a massacre has access to the best weapons and ammo possible. We don't want to inconvenience mass shooters

As to arming crazy people? We did nothing after the Sandy Hook shooter gunned down six year olds. Background checks? Sharing information on the mentally unstable? Restricting high capacity magazines?

Too inconvenient for gun owners

You conveniently omit that Adam Lanza killed his mother and stole her guns but hey why be truthful.

As far as I know Lanza didn't buy any guns himself.

His mother bought the guns, but she also took him shooting frequently.

 

[TemplarKormac]

We didn't care about a massacre of 30 six year old first graders. Why should we care about 50-60 dead country music fans?

Um, if I didn't care, I wouldn't be in this thread making my opinion on the matter. You on the other hand, only seem to care when it plays along the narrative of your political worldviews. Why else would you be here? Goodness gracious, you guys are like clockwork. Guy with a gun offs scores of innocent people and you come preaching the ills of gun ownership and the supposed deficiencies of our current gun laws.

On a side note...

Life is life, young or old. And when that innocent life is brutally taken away, we all should care. We shouldn't politicize it either.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

You ever hear of bombs? That's the preferred method by Muslim terrorism.
While most likely this guy was not a Muslim, it was likely a Bernie Sanders supporter

How about you just shut the **** up

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Again banning of firearms is never going to happen.

Majority of Democrats and Republicans support legal ownership of firearms.

The requirement for ownership veries from state to state and some require more than others but citizens are allow to own a firearm because of the Second Amendment!

Also the requirement to repeal the Second Amendment is tougher than you think.

Not only do you need a Super Majority in the Senate you also need a Super Majority with the States and that is not happening!

So what part of banning firearms is not happening is too hard for You?

In the end you keep on writing like you know how this could happen without understanding the laws and requirements of this Nation!

I do not believe repealing the 2nd Amendment would be easy.

It’s impossible, unrealistic, and wouldn’t solve this problem.

I agree with the first two parts of your statement but not the third.

Firearm confiscation would result in millions of people on both sides dying… Dip shit

Watch your language or your arguments will not be refuted by me. Turning in firearms did not result in mass murders in Australia.

So what!

Australia population is a hell of a lot smaller than the U.S. and you are still allow to hunt down there, so you did not solve your damn problem still.

Also educate yourself because your argument is based on your ignorance of the law here in the states!

You don't like being called a moron then stop acting like one you wannabe dictator!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Is the dumbest thing, this relation between some and guns. dozens of countries don't have this issue, simply because there's no easy access to guns...why can't americans give up their guns and live like many other countries live in Peace!!!

Because we don't want too, plus our Bill of Rights ensures this right

Next question

-Geaux

Prehistoric laws, they need to be changed so Americans can live in peace and in a civilized environment. It seems as if some want to stay in the era of the wild wild west.

The laws are just fine. They need to start enforcing them

-Geaux

Nope, very outdated....guns should be banned completly. Results? less mass shootings, and shootings all together. Proof? most countries have that in place.

And libs are constantly telling us, "we don't want to take you guns, why don't you believe us"?


HEY LEFTIES, THIS IS WHY!

You really wish to claim that person speaks for all liberals?

 

[Skull Pilot]

I believe Americans are personally responsible for allowing their country to be awash with firearms.

Well, yes. We have a constitution.

Though gun crimes are horrific, they are not even a blip in the total numbers of guns and gun owners.

The Las Vegas murderer was a regular owner before last night I wager. That is no consolation to the Las Vegas festival goers or their families.

Yep, he was a good guy with a gun until he wasn't.

And you're not a rapist until you are.

Maybe we should do something about you.

 

[Rustic]

You assume he got the guns just before he fired them into the crowd

That was a fully auto rifle which is THE most tightly controlled weapon in the country

He either had a federal permit for the gun or illegally obtained and /or modified it

then we shouldn't let people buy guns that can be easily modified to full auto. Or that were originally designed as battlefield weapons.

This seems pretty simple, except for the nutters who are compensating for their 'shortcomings'.

It's not as easy as you think to modify a gun for full auto.

If it was there'd be a shit ton more of them floating around

A modern semi auto with high capacity mags is a mass killer.

I've never seen a rifle semi or not chase anyone down the street and kill anybody… Have you?

 

[Brain357]

Then you support people control over gun control?

Such as not allowing felons to buy guns?

Enforce current laws... New frivolous ones will not save a single soul

With current laws out country is filled with mass shootings, accidental shootings, cops killing people, people killing cops regularly...

This stuff is rare with gun control.

Na, current laws are not being enforced… Like criminal control.

What happens here regularly is rare with gun control. Fact.

And with more concealed carry violent crime is increasing.

Most violent crime in the US is done by a repeat offenders, that's why we need much stronger criminal control…

And they are all armed because our country is flooded with guns. Fact

Our country has fullest jails in world. Fact