Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[Rustic]

The main issue is the gun controllers go for blanket solutions to targeted problems. The issue is the mentally ill having access to weapons so their solution is to make it harder for everyone to get firearms, even the mentally competent.

The main hang up is a complete lack of trust from gun rights people with regards to gun control people. We know they really want nothing but law enforcement and the government to be only legally armed people, they just won't admit it.

Well, there is one more issue, and that is the types of firearms people have access to.

This guy was using automatic weapons. One shot at a time would not have done this.
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Is this the guy?
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Pray and spray is not accuracy... firearms do not kill people people kill people

Then you support people control over gun control?

Such as not allowing felons to buy guns?

Enforce current laws... New frivolous ones will not save a single soul

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I believe Americans are personally responsible for allowing their country to be awash with firearms.

Well, yes. We have a constitution.

Though gun crimes are horrific, they are not even a blip in the total numbers of guns and gun owners.

The Las Vegas murderer was a regular owner before last night I wager. That is no consolation to the Las Vegas festival goers or their families.

Yep, he was a good guy with a gun until he wasn't.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Someone said they couldn't tell if it was machine gun or helicopter. Hell, I could tell! That was a machine gun. Period. Not buts about it. I heard helicopter too but it sure doesn't sound like what I just heard. And if they were holed up in a motel room at the casino..they had plenty of targets being on the 29nd floor.

Makes little sense as far as hotel room window. I have never seen a window in any hotel room that can be opened.....especially in Vegas.

Although all reports are saying it was from a hotel room window. Just does not make sense.

It has been reported He broke the window.

 

[Rustic]

Only in the USA do we regularly have events like this. Thanks gun culture.

Pray for the wounded.

There are worse things than dying, like living in a country that has no freedom in individuality…

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Again banning of firearms is never going to happen.

Majority of Democrats and Republicans support legal ownership of firearms.

The requirement for ownership veries from state to state and some require more than others but citizens are allow to own a firearm because of the Second Amendment!

Also the requirement to repeal the Second Amendment is tougher than you think.

Not only do you need a Super Majority in the Senate you also need a Super Majority with the States and that is not happening!

So what part of banning firearms is not happening is too hard for You?

In the end you keep on writing like you know how this could happen without understanding the laws and requirements of this Nation!

I do not believe repealing the 2nd Amendment would be easy.

It’s impossible, unrealistic, and wouldn’t solve this problem.

I agree with the first two parts of your statement but not the third.

Firearm confiscation would result in millions of people on both sides dying… Dip shit

Watch your language or your arguments will not be refuted by me. Turning in firearms did not result in mass murders in Australia.

Um...

We won't be turning them in.

Millions will die.

 

[bodecea]

Socialist candidates like Bernie Sanders inspire violence… They should be banned

In in a fascist totalitarian world, they probably would be. But not in America...while the Constitution still holds sway.

 

[Brain357]

Well, there is one more issue, and that is the types of firearms people have access to.

This guy was using automatic weapons. One shot at a time would not have done this.
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Is this the guy?
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Pray and spray is not accuracy... firearms do not kill people people kill people

Then you support people control over gun control?

Such as not allowing felons to buy guns?

Enforce current laws... New frivolous ones will not save a single soul

With current laws out country is filled with mass shootings, accidental shootings, cops killing people, people killing cops regularly...

This stuff is rare with gun control.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

My predictions.

1) Everyone in this man's life knew he was mentally unstable.
2) He was still able to get guns too easily.

...and people kill people not firearms

The only way to kill a firearm is to ban it.

Again banning of firearms is never going to happen.

Majority of Democrats and Republicans support legal ownership of firearms.

The requirement for ownership veries from state to state and some require more than others but citizens are allow to own a firearm because of the Second Amendment!

Also the requirement to repeal the Second Amendment is tougher than you think.

Not only do you need a Super Majority in the Senate you also need a Super Majority with the States and that is not happening!

So what part of banning firearms is not happening is too hard for You?

In the end you keep on writing like you know how this could happen without understanding the laws and requirements of this Nation!

I do not believe repealing the 2nd Amendment would be easy.

So the point is moot seeing neither major political party not States will allow it to happen.

The reality is you have no clue ehat it takes to get laws and amendments changed in this country and just give your naive opinion on the matter.

You also compare America to other Countries while ignoring the mere fact only India and China out rank the U.S. in population and California population alone is larger than Canada!

So fun gun control in Countries like England, Sweden or Canada is possible because of the mere fact they have small populations and China gun contr is because of Maoism which America will never adopt.

So let cut the nonsense and also it would be wis for those not living in the states to read the laws for each state when it come to owning and how you can obtain a firearm because each state has different requirements.

Here in Texas a long rifle is legal to own without State approval but in States like Illinois and California it is different.

Also in Texas even though open carry is allow their is a permit needed and owners of properties can deny you access if you open and carry but the owner must post that open and carry is not allow on their property.

So look up the laws before commenting on a subject matter!

 

[Rustic]

... firearms do not kill people people kill people

I'm pretty sure this people was using machine guns.

So you're saying the firearms control people?

Nope. This guy used a machine gun to carry out his task. A Super Soaker probably wouldn't have cut it.
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You ever hear of bombs? That's the preferred method by Muslim terrorism.
While most likely this guy was not a Muslim, it was likely a Bernie Sanders supporter

 

[Vastator]

If the shooter had been Muslim, Trump would have used it as justification to permanently ban Muslim immigration
But since he was an older white male, he will just chalk it up to the weekly gun carnage our nation endures

While I understand your point, this could be too big for him to get away with that.
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The weekly gun carnage is mostly in our inner cities. These events are tragic and make a big splash on the nightly news, but statistically they are extremely rare considering the amount of people who own guns and the amount of crazy people we have in this country.

And we still don't know what type of weapon he used, how he got it, who he actually is, and how the people died and got hurt. (Did some die from the stampede after the shooting started or were they all shot?)

Until we know all that we can't begin to figure out what happened, why it happened, and what to do about it.

Nothing to see here people....move along

Gunning down 50-60 people is statistically irrelevant when we have 8500 murdered each year
Go back to complaining about NFL players kneeling and forget about doing anything about guns

Forget? Who was thinking of doing anything about guns?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Of course this is retarded thinking.
No one could kill more than fifty and injure more than four hundred with any weapon other than a gun.

You ever hear of bombs? Are you that stupid?

No bombs in this attack, dope.
The cartoon shows physical attacks. Not bombs.

Bombs aren't physical attacks?

The cartoon I responded to did not feature bombs, dope.

Then obviously the meaning beyond the literal evades you

 

[Rustic]

I believe Americans are personally responsible for allowing their country to be awash with firearms.

Well, yes. We have a constitution.

Though gun crimes are horrific, they are not even a blip in the total numbers of guns and gun owners.

The Las Vegas murderer was a regular owner before last night I wager. That is no consolation to the Las Vegas festival goers or their families.

Yep, he was a good guy with a gun until he wasn't.

Bernie Sanders supporters are not good guys… LOL

 

[BuckToothMoron]

I mean..who is going to hear a breaking glass window in vegas? Or even pay attention? All it would take is a glass cutter and quick punch. Instant hole.

The glass was likely tempered or laminated. If tempered, it would break into thousands of small pieces; if laminated, it would be difficult to remove enough to shoot thru.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Lots of people care. It goes toward profiling. And we both have a pretty good idea what side of the aisle he comes from. If you don’t... stay tuned.

You mean like Tim McVeigh? That side of the aisle? Yeah, probably.

McVeigh was a leftist.

McVeigh was not a socialist. He was a war veteran who was against the United States federal government. He hoped to inspire a revolt of gun-loving irregular militias. About as right-wing as they come.

Most RW'ers don't even attempt to advance that myth. You need to be a very special RW'er to try.

 

[Rustic]

Is this the guy?
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Pray and spray is not accuracy... firearms do not kill people people kill people

Then you support people control over gun control?

Such as not allowing felons to buy guns?

Enforce current laws... New frivolous ones will not save a single soul

With current laws out country is filled with mass shootings, accidental shootings, cops killing people, people killing cops regularly...

This stuff is rare with gun control.

Na, current laws are not being enforced… Like criminal control.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It is the America we live in

...except Chicago.

 

[Mac1958]

While most likely this guy was not a Muslim, it was likely a Bernie Sanders supporter

You don't know that.

Three things had to be present in that hotel room for this to happen: Guns, bullets, and the shooter. Take any of those elements out of the equation, and everyone is alive and healthy.

We DO know THAT.
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[Rustic]

Lots of people care. It goes toward profiling. And we both have a pretty good idea what side of the aisle he comes from. If you don’t... stay tuned.

You mean like Tim McVeigh? That side of the aisle? Yeah, probably.

McVeigh was a leftist.

McVeigh was not a socialist. He was a war veteran who was against the United States federal government. He hoped to inspire a revolt of gun-loving irregular militias. About as right-wing as they come.

Most RW'ers don't even attempt to advance that myth. You need to be a very special RW'er to try.

It sounds like this guy was a Bernie Sanders supporter?

 

[Skull Pilot]

If the shooter had been Muslim, Trump would have used it as justification to permanently ban Muslim immigration

But since he was an older white male, he will just chalk it up to the weekly gun carnage our nation endures

Once again you ignore the mental health of the shooter. Had he been caught, those weapons would not have been used to kill anyone. That requires the hand of a cognizant (mentally unstable or otherwise) to use these weapons in that way. The weapons just don't animate themselves and start killing people.

Eh, perhaps I made a mistake logging on this morning... for I am being drawn into the politics of the matter.

Look...This is America

We do everything possible to ensure that someone planning a massacre has access to the best weapons and ammo possible. We don't want to inconvenience mass shooters

As to arming crazy people? We did nothing after the Sandy Hook shooter gunned down six year olds. Background checks? Sharing information on the mentally unstable? Restricting high capacity magazines?

Too inconvenient for gun owners

You conveniently omit that Adam Lanza killed his mother and stole her guns but hey why be truthful.

As far as I know Lanza didn't buy any guns himself.

 

[Correll]

I swear to you guys, there are tons of countries with 0 guns or hardly any guns....Guess what??? no mass shootings, no killings at workplaces, schooles, shopping malls, roads, households, preschools, stadiums, ect....beleive me i've lived in one for 23 years, i've never heard of someone getting killed by a gun, because simply there are none.
It's doable ban guns completely you wont have these mass shootings.

Shootings are acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

No one is forcing you to stay.