Kraughthammer on Obama--he nailed it

[asaratis]

My brother commented after the election that the only redeeming feature to the election of the community organizer was that all but the totally stupid will realize before the end of his first term that we (collectively) screwed up in electing him. I predict one term only for the Marxist unless he is successful in creating a dictatorship within 4 years.

I think the OP is entirely correct regarding the danger of trusting Obama. Then again, it's actually stupid to trust any politician.

 

[Sinatra]

My brother commented after the election that the only redeeming feature to the election of the community organizer was that all but the totally stupid will realize before the end of his first term that we (collectively) screwed up in electing him. I predict one term only for the Marxist unless he is successful in creating a dictatorship within 4 years.

I think the OP is entirely correct regarding the danger of trusting Obama. Then again, it's actually stupid to trust any politician.

Agreed - Charles K. simply stated what a growing number of Americans are now feeling - that this new president is as much a leftist elitist as those who opposed him last year were warning all along...

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

I used to catch him on an early morning round table on FOX either Saturday or Sunday several years ago where there were three or four regular commentators from both the liberal and conservative non-mainstream media. Krauthammer was one, I think Fred Barnes was another, the woman often seen on O'Reilly Factor now from American University (Ann something), and another one from Media Matters. It was always a good discussion, and Krauthammer often got smacked down (in a civil manner of course). He does much better pontificating solo. That program doesn't exist anymore. Surprise surprise. We're treated instead to The Beltway Boys, Morton Kondracke and Fred Barnes, gleefully nodding in agreement with each other.

ROFLMNAO... 'Krauthammer got smacked down...' Oh GOD That's precious... It's so hilarious how two people can come away with two wholly distinct perceptions of the same thing. I've watched Fox News Sunday from the beginning and doubt I've missed 3 shows since its debut... and never witnessed ANY discussion where anyone on that panel even approached a sustainable contest of Krauthammer's position, let alone advanced a polite smack-down... what this idiot is defining as a 'smack-down' is the simple advancement of a countering point of view of that Krauthammer offered and as that point of view compliments this idiots point of view, she erroneously feels that it serves as such.

Of course this idiots never posted any position in my presence which wasn't beat like a red headed step child and throughly discredited and refuted...

And given Krauthammer is better at it than I am, it's unlikely that anything offered up by a leftist would be sustained, in his presence. Simple time constraints prevent a rebuttal, thus where a leftist gets the last word, they feel they've carried the day.

DUMBASS!

Like yourself much?

What's not to like?

There's nobody more disrespected than a bloviating egotistical braggadocio.

The thing about respect, is that it's only worth having by those worthy of it... which of course, rules out the emotional basket of cases which comprise the ideological left; which most decidely includes your ignorant ass...

And btw, I wasn't talking about "Fox News Sunday." The show I remember well came on at least an hour before that. Must be you were still yelling at your mother to fix your breakfast.[/QUOTE]

Oh, that super special show, which came on before Fox News Sunday, where Chuck Krauthammer and crew were involved in a round table discussion...

Gotcha... the only problem there is that Fox News Sunday comes on Network Fox, and there was no political show which preceded Fox News Sunday... So perhaps you're 'feeling' of a rerun of the Simpsons which is clearly more suited to your intellectual depth.

DUMBASS!

 

[Chris]

My brother commented after the election that the only redeeming feature to the election of the community organizer was that all but the totally stupid will realize before the end of his first term that we (collectively) screwed up in electing him. I predict one term only for the Marxist unless he is successful in creating a dictatorship within 4 years.

I think the OP is entirely correct regarding the danger of trusting Obama. Then again, it's actually stupid to trust any politician.

Agreed - Charles K. simply stated what a growing number of Americans are now feeling - that this new president is as much a leftist elitist as those who opposed him last year were warning all along...

Obama is not leftist enough.

But he is doing what he can.

 

[Gunny]

My brother commented after the election that the only redeeming feature to the election of the community organizer was that all but the totally stupid will realize before the end of his first term that we (collectively) screwed up in electing him. I predict one term only for the Marxist unless he is successful in creating a dictatorship within 4 years.

I think the OP is entirely correct regarding the danger of trusting Obama. Then again, it's actually stupid to trust any politician.

Agreed - Charles K. simply stated what a growing number of Americans are now feeling - that this new president is as much a leftist elitist as those who opposed him last year were warning all along...

Obama is not leftist enough.

But he is doing what he can.

When you leftwingnuts finally take his policies up the bobo, it will be YOU squealing the loudest, and try to figure out how to blame it on a Republican. That's just how you roll.

 

[Chris]

Agreed - Charles K. simply stated what a growing number of Americans are now feeling - that this new president is as much a leftist elitist as those who opposed him last year were warning all along...

Obama is not leftist enough.

But he is doing what he can.

When you leftwingnuts finally take his policies up the bobo, it will be YOU squealing the loudest, and try to figure out how to blame it on a Republican. That's just how you roll.

You right wingers are so obsessed with gay male sex. It's weird.

Sorry, but the Republicans almost destroyed the country.

Now Obama has us back on the right track.

 

[Oddball]

Obama is not leftist enough.

But he is doing what he can.

With unabashed communist dictator Hugo Chavez afraid that Barry Obolshevik is going to get to the right of him, that says more about your communistic tendencies than anything else.

 

[Gunny]

Obama is not leftist enough.

But he is doing what he can.

When you leftwingnuts finally take his policies up the bobo, it will be YOU squealing the loudest, and try to figure out how to blame it on a Republican. That's just how you roll.

You right wingers are so obsessed with gay male sex. It's weird.

Sorry, but the Republicans almost destroyed the country.

Now Obama has us back on the right track.

You seem to be the one obsessed with it. I didn't mention it at all. The Republicans were novices at destroying this country compared Obama.

Here's a novel idea ... instead of screwing it up for everyone else here, why don't you and your "Wah! I need someone to bring me my ba-ba and bankie" crowd take your asses to Europe where they've already become the stagnant, mediocre losers you fuckwits keep trying to turn the US into?

 

[Chris]

When you leftwingnuts finally take his policies up the bobo, it will be YOU squealing the loudest, and try to figure out how to blame it on a Republican. That's just how you roll.

You right wingers are so obsessed with gay male sex. It's weird.

Sorry, but the Republicans almost destroyed the country.

Now Obama has us back on the right track.

You seem to be the one obsessed with it. I didn't mention it at all. The Republicans were novices at destroying this country compared Obama.

Here's a novel idea ... instead of screwing it up for everyone else here, why don't you and your "Wah! I need someone to bring me my ba-ba and bankie" crowd take your asses to Europe where they've already become the stagnant, mediocre losers you fuckwits keep trying to turn the US into?

Don't worry, you will still get your government check every month and your free healthcare.

 

[txlonghorn]

You right wingers are so obsessed with gay male sex. It's weird.

Sorry, but the Republicans almost destroyed the country.

Now Obama has us back on the right track.

You seem to be the one obsessed with it. I didn't mention it at all. The Republicans were novices at destroying this country compared Obama.

Here's a novel idea ... instead of screwing it up for everyone else here, why don't you and your "Wah! I need someone to bring me my ba-ba and bankie" crowd take your asses to Europe where they've already become the stagnant, mediocre losers you fuckwits keep trying to turn the US into?

Don't worry, you will still get your government check every month and your free healthcare.

Holy shit! Is this guy for real?

 

[KittenKoder]

You seem to be the one obsessed with it. I didn't mention it at all. The Republicans were novices at destroying this country compared Obama.

Here's a novel idea ... instead of screwing it up for everyone else here, why don't you and your "Wah! I need someone to bring me my ba-ba and bankie" crowd take your asses to Europe where they've already become the stagnant, mediocre losers you fuckwits keep trying to turn the US into?

Don't worry, you will still get your government check every month and your free healthcare.

Holy shit! Is this guy for real?

Sadly ... he actually believes his twisted version of reality.

 

[txlonghorn]

You right wingers are so obsessed with gay male sex. It's weird.

Sorry, but the Republicans almost destroyed the country.

Now Obama has us back on the right track.

You seem to be the one obsessed with it. I didn't mention it at all. The Republicans were novices at destroying this country compared Obama.

Here's a novel idea ... instead of screwing it up for everyone else here, why don't you and your "Wah! I need someone to bring me my ba-ba and bankie" crowd take your asses to Europe where they've already become the stagnant, mediocre losers you fuckwits keep trying to turn the US into?

Don't worry, you will still get your government check every month and your free healthcare.

The last fucking thing I want from the government is a welfare check and free healthcare!!! Neither one would be good enough to support my needs...financially or healthwise.

Can you imagine??? Free healthcare? Do the words "government cheese" bring happy memories to ANYONE???

 

[garyd]

Here we go again. Neither Reagan Nor Bush could affect the Middle class. That isn't the presidents job discription. That belongs to congress. When the Democrats took over congress, the economy was doing just fine. Six months later it began to descend into the tank. Why? That's when their first budget went on line.

It is also debateable if Bush engaged in any way in any truly meaningful economic conservativism beyond the tax cuts. He sure as hell didn't reduce domestic spending rather he incresed it rather dramatically and from virtually day one. I'm sorry but the only ideas that have been tried and failed don't belong to conservatives but to the left.

 

[code1211]

You right wingers are so obsessed with gay male sex. It's weird.

Sorry, but the Republicans almost destroyed the country.

Now Obama has us back on the right track.

You seem to be the one obsessed with it. I didn't mention it at all. The Republicans were novices at destroying this country compared Obama.

Here's a novel idea ... instead of screwing it up for everyone else here, why don't you and your "Wah! I need someone to bring me my ba-ba and bankie" crowd take your asses to Europe where they've already become the stagnant, mediocre losers you fuckwits keep trying to turn the US into?

Don't worry, you will still get your government check every month and your free healthcare.

And what will happen when the well runs dry?

 

[Zoom-boing]

So which is it? No he didn't or after 8 years he did....

I guess he thinks that it's only taken Obama 5 months to destroy as much as Bush did in 8 years...

I dont see how's its fair to the President and what he's undone or has done in just 5 months. The wheels of gvernment dont move that fast, no matter who the President is, therefore making judgements about whats happened or hasn't happened is not really fair.
On the same note, its equally unfair to say "the liberals did it to Bush" or the "the Libs blame everything on Bush"...he was a lame duck and was widely criticized by not only liberals but quite a few republicans.

Oh BS. The left was holding Bush responsible from Day 1. Y'all have worn this line out. Obama has stuck his nose in more places he has no business in 5 months than Bush did in 8 years.

Or have you missed the part where he has just fucked us on energy, owns two auto corporations and an insurance corporation and given the Fed the power to seize any business it deems "vital to the US economy"?

He's basically trying to make all of us dependent on the government for everything. That's called control, just in case you missed that class.

And yeah, it IS fair to say the left did it to Bush. Hold your own idiot to the same standard you hold the other guy's idiot to. I realize that concept is a bit too much for a left to grasp, but at least give it a shot.

And in case anyone missed it, that's been his A-one priority from the get go. That is his agenda. How anyone fails to see this boggles the mind.

 

[Coyote]

The first few sections sounded reasonable....with the potential for thought but then it rapidly disintegrated into something resembling ideological talking points and fear mongering. How disappointing for a man who is supposed to be an intellectual. To sum it up succinctly, he is saying Obama's striving to be the Evil Overlord of the World.

That's not the way I read it. So far, Obama has engineered giving billions to the the UAW and nationalizing the auto industry and the banking industry.

How has he "given billions" to the UAW? My impression is they don't really want this stock in the company in lieu of pension guarantees etc. -- and they are also forced into concessions.

In addition - it's not exactly an Obama "engineered" bail out, but a more complex package started under Bush, and involving Congress.

What's on the line for the UAW - Dec. 19, 2008

I think the partial "nationalization" is a very risky step - I'll agree with it. Obama claims he wants to get the government out as quickly as possible - which I believe, but can he? British Leyland went through a similar process, and failed - lots of lessons to be learned there.

The banking industry bailouts also started before Obama and adding more government regulation and oversight does not equal "nationalization" but rather an admission that the prior status quo of "hands off" the free market was a failure resulting in the worst economic crash since the Great Depression.

He wants to destroy the energy business, raise taxes on everybody on everything through the Cap and Trade Swindle and nationalize the healthcare industry.

How does he want to destroy the energy business? That's a ludicrous exaggeration of the facts. Placing some accountability on it's actions is not tantamount to destroying it although it might "seem" like it to those that supported the lax regulation of the past 8 years.

Nationalize the healthcare industry? Again...hyperbole. If you look at the news you would see that a single-payer healthcare system is not on the table - which apparently pisses off some folks:

Labor Leaders Demand That 'Single Payer' Be Part of Obama Healthcare Reform Discussions
The Obama administration's plans to hold a "Health Care Summit" that excludes advocates of single-payer healthcare reform has drawn a sharp response from labor leaders around the country.

Too Bad that Single Payer Isn't Being Considered
While the public plan option gets full consideration in Congress, the single-payer model -- such as universal Medicare -- has been unwelcome at the White House or on Capitol Hill. It’s too hot politically...

...He made it clear that his idea of health care reform would allow patients to choose their own doctors and keep their own health plans...

...Obama -- apparently fearing to be labeled a liberal -- stressed in a speech to the AMA in Chicago this week that he does not favor socialized medicine. (We won’t ask him whether he favors government- financed public schools, libraries, roads and parks, just to name a few examples of socialism in our midst.)

How big a chunk of the economy is Auto, energy, healthcare and finance? I'll go out on a limb and say that there is not one person in the USA does not depend on one or all of these industries on a daily basis.

Ok, are you using that claim to justify a hands-off, no-regulation and no accountability approach to those industries? Are they sacred cows? Should they be allowed to crash the economy again...and again?

Quite soon, in Obama's Utopia, we will enjoy the customer service that is only available from government union employees who cannot be fired for cause and who compete for the highest service honor, the coveted "Pillar of Salt Award".

Hyperbole.

Can a "Single Payer" produce more efficient results than a competitive market place? If your answer is yes, compare the cost of the benefits for the average US Government employee to the average private industry employee.

Strawman. Obama is not advocating a single payer system.

If we dissolve the energy business of the USA and lose all of those jobs, what is the plan to replace those jobs?

I'm not sure whether to call this a strawman or just plain delusional. Take your pick.

Platitudes are one thing. A well defined plan with a well understood and well examined process and projected outcome are completely different.

Exactly. A well defined plan is what is being hammered out - it's not a unilateral effort.

The stern on our little Titanic is starting to rise.

Are you better off now than you were 6 months ago?

One year ago the economy started sinking fast now there appears to be a light at the end of the tunnel.

And, speaking of "plan" what is your plan to extend healthcare coverage to the uninsured and control health care costs? Do you have anything besides platitudes?

 

[Oddball]

And, speaking of "plan" what is your plan to extend healthcare coverage to the uninsured and control health care costs? Do you have anything besides platitudes?

The preposterous premise there being that a federal plan will control costs.

Do you have an unqualified and unambiguous example -any example will do- where any federal program has come in under budget and delivered anywhere near what it promised??

 

[Coyote]

Where was this dipshit when Reagan / Bush Jr were destroying the middle class and feeding the pockets of the wealthy and corporations?

OpEdNews » Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Typical leftist response. Attack with some crap rather than address the post itself. The middle class has been toolin' right along until now. We'll be lucky to survive this administration at the rate its going.

Have they?

The jobs that used to provide a way out for the poor and support a growing middle class have largely left this country - well paying blue collar jobs with full benefits. What's replaced them is low-wage, low-skill service jobs with few benefits, and no real way up. There's a big gap between that and the next level of jobs that require a minimum of an undergraduate degree in a time when the costs of education have been skyrocketing right along with healthcare.

 

[Coyote]

And, speaking of "plan" what is your plan to extend healthcare coverage to the uninsured and control health care costs? Do you have anything besides platitudes?

The preposterous premise there being that a federal plan will control costs.

Whether or not having a federal plan will control costs remains to be seen but the other part of the issue is providing healthcare to the uninsured - particularly now that the trend is to provide fewer and fewer benefits in employment.

My one argument thus far in the plan, is that Obama has not made torte reform part of it. I think that is one of the things needed to control costs.

Do you have an unqualified and unambiguous example -any example will do- where any federal program has come in under budget and delivered anywhere near what it promised??

It doesn't have to deliver everything it has promised to be better than the alternative.

 

[Oddball]

IOW, you have nothing other than the standard empty promises of politicians and bureaucrats, who've never delivered the goods in the first place, and absolutely no supporting evidence for the limp "better than what we have now" argument.

As I suspected.