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Please note I originally wrote this post on a Christian forum and since I am now not on that forum, I want to disclose I'm not claiming Korean heritage. This forum might garner thoughtful responses on the 1992 LA riots past what I can study on the internet. Thanks.
This article will cover background on Presbyterianism. Then, what is the presented Presbyterian religion and national experience for Korean Americans, their experience as Americans and citizens, and covers shortsighted problems in African American communities.
The foundation and survival of Christianity lies completely in Feudal Europe. Christianity survived at points in time Solely in Orthodox Churches in and out of Byzantium and Catholic Churches. Catholic Churches and the Pope worked a restoration of the Western Roman Unity through aristocratic families intermarrying across the new Feudal Kingdoms and diplomatic marriages. The Reformed Church along with many claims, retained women from these diplomatic marriages to foreign kingdoms or countries. The full Reformed Church from all Papal dependency, can be exampled in American Puritans, the French Huguenots, Presbyterians in Scotland, various Reformed original churches in Hungary under the Ottomans and elsewhere. John Calvin and John Knox really have no dependency on Martin Luther, or Lutherans, or followers such as the Anglican, Baptist, Methodist, strains of itinerant preachers protesting Rome. Reformed Churches are not about never "kneeling again to the Pope", and sometimes, the Pope is still in writing, having a special demonic part in the end Days. There are likely few systems to Reclaim Reformed churches for the Pope. John Calvin founded as a lawyer the religion in Switzerland and John Knox took his teacher's issue to the government of Scotland. Reformation is exampled in American Puritans. No favoritism of government form is known to me besides that which is best for the people with some humanism, or so I see cited. It counsels Rulers in a way Baptists refuse a part in. Really, with or without it there are many anti-marriage laws across Kingdoms for the good of subjects.
Presbyterianism of course existed before and through and after the founding of the United States of America. It serves as a high pillar in the secular government's meaning of separation of Church And State. Anglicans were not given offices for that quality. A man's home and fireside was his own. For those who remember A Christmas Carol making a renewed case for Christmas traditions, the British Isles Protestantism uniquely favored removal of Roman Catholic holidays, instead, producing Thanksgivings, in USA, Canada, perhaps elsewhere. Only Easter, Thanksgivings, and the Sabbath Sunday being observed. Today, Liberal Theology aside, Neo-Catholocism for Anglicans and other reintroduces Christmas where in the Early United States of America it was detestable to George Washington to make a big deal of Christmas, and Christmas was illegal. Superstition and gathering merriment were frowned upon even in the unchurched Enlightenment.
Horace Grant Underwood was a Naturalized American, hailing from London. In 1885 patriotic spirits existed such as My Country Tis of Thee, Hail Columbia, and others, while the Star Spangled Banner may have existed but was not widely regarded as far as I know, until its 1931 adoption. America was known as Radical Republicanism, and Liberty defined in that way in contrast to monarchies. Communism was not yet in an infancy anywhere. Auld Lang Syne known throughout the English world from a Scottish Poem was taken by Presbyterians to form the National Anthem in Korea, with lyrics that were changed. In 1885 along with many denominations with positive ecumenical relation (or communication) such as Methodists , and many smaller contributions, the Reverend Horace Grant Underwood had 50 American men and their wives to Korea. This was a Welcomed and Invited "Call of Korea" as is the title of Underwood's book. That quality of called, voluntary adoption, is essential to Korea. In 10 years after meeting King Gojong's wife in a Christian fashion, of celebrating Underwood's own wedding "native to America" and celebrating King Gojong's Christian wedding "native to Korea" in the usual Christian ceremonies today, of Underwood's leading Korean obedience to the rightful King's government, Underwood would undoubtedly be grieved at the Queen's apparent assassination, dismemberment, and burning by Japanese invaders in Korea. Queen Myungseong's death signals great suspicion and a new era for Korea heading toward being conquered. However, Presbyterians in Korea see the church as progress oriented as it did show through American contractors, western institution and technology that did not require Japanese intervention. Underwood founded universities and hospitals in Korea such as Yonsei University, or Gejungwon Hospital, is detailed in "The Call of Korea".
In the meantime between 1930, of any real free or personally decided migration of Koreans under Japanese rule, and 1958, the end of World War 2, the last of the Korean War, and shocks of reintroduction between the Presbyterian Church of America and Korea must be covered. After the Korean War, America experienced the anti-war movement, the Civil Rights movement, the hippies' movement, which all led to wanted changes For Americans At That Time. In all of this marching, a Spirit that is American is undoubtedly crushed. US Census numbers show that around 1951 and that timeperiod perhaps 5 to 7 million Americans were Presbyterian to 1958 dissolutions and reorganizations of the rightly Historic church, to the present day being only 2 or 3 million Presbyterians in America today who are mostly elderly OR, Korean American, who in the 70 to 80% majority identify as Presbyterian on being in the United States. The United States upheavals in a way, leave this weak "healing" PCUSA , isolated and radical, next to Presbyterian churches established by the USA in other countries, such as Mexico, the Presbyterian Churches under the established Scottish church known as The Kirk, in British Africa. Presbyterians and Reformed churches are far away from the PCUSA which causes disagreement even with Presbyterians who are left in this disintegrating church.It is right and noble for Korean Americans to be Presbyterians, really, being Americans, the thoughtful sort of Americans who signed our Declaration of Independence. That nobility of pursuit won't be stolen from Korean Americans.
The Korean American experience is relatively unsubstantial and unregarded. Korean Americans neither can expect to impose South Korea, North Korea, or any earlier Korea onto the American conscience or have a cultural melting pot that is uniquely catching on. The LA Riots of 1992 are a touchstone of mistrust between Korean American and African American and generally with other communities.
I am going to speak on an important contribution to be brought by the African American community. First, is the background on which I believe this can be said. African Americans have a culture directly in its root regarding Slavery. A majority of its culture is a direct rejection of culture, persons, and circumstances, and all study toward the persons around slavery. They are uniquely positioned, not as a Northern White person of Today, or any other demographic. The full study of their roots in America can't be done hatefully, or as a hashtag, and in daily life that is therefore a rejected topic derisively without argument. I see an African American community completely subservient to a complete and Final Northern Victory in this regard. Many of our race relations discussions can find their Exact roots in this institution. Where the Empire of Spain made many grades of colors from light to dark to distinguish mixtures of native or Spaniard, today these words don't identify or translate well as White or Black. Victorian mother-centered home and family is far more descriptive of the one-drop rule or matrilinealism than is naming an arbitrary system of oppression when many such systems existed. When racism was a poorly examined element and side affect in a distant past by scholarly men, we see they spoke of the Dixie flag as the Cross of Scotland the south's claim to state independence to a tyrannical government union in parallel with recent developments of England and Scotland in the Union Jack. 90% of black "native brothers" who took the same journey arrived to a Catholic Master elsewhere in the America's in harsher conditions in disregard of life or happiness. African Americans are culturally ignoring Presbyterian Africans awaiting brotherhood from the former British Empire. Because Baptists and Methodists tended to cause rebellions in slavery systems, preach more meaningfully to slaves, and discourage slave owners as either pastors or missionaries, Baptists and Methodists have a unswayable link to African American culture. However, Baptists and Methodists as denominations promote an American Centric views on religion. Their place is uncertain in the Christian world as a unit, and take African Americans away from the central pillars of Christendom or the wider universality identity of Christianity. Methodists and Baptists while as large as Presbyterians around the world, are not around the world, have a shorter history since 1830 and Are Not Studied around the world, the wide association of Christians for Christians. African Americans reject from slavery, all vestiges of identification and justification Through links of Original and Organized denominational, religions founded in Europe.
Both African Americans and Korean Americans want a fair chance from both the government and the people of the United States. It should be noted, however, when Korean Americans came to LA with advanced educations from Korea, these were not regarded qualities. African Americans wish to claim a sway of influence and power and really, black privilege in America over Universality principles of being a Christian. African Methodist and African Baptist churches were founded by themselves for independence, while United Methodists and Southern Baptists including Martin Luther King Jr, call for these to be brought together in true brotherhood, to pray together, hand in hand. That is a complicated history of segregation and bias. National Origin, Racial Bias, and Status can all be regarded distinctly. Horace Grant Underwood, like John Knox who arrived to the government of Scotland, went to Korea with the mission of establishing for the Koreans their Church and presided for some time, is today acknowledged in their church history, and was turned over to Koreans since his death in 1916. The Confucian class system was important and uninhibited as well as public ceremonies. Far more important is the true provision of the Word, in Korean, the church and its safety, and the rightful government of Korea. I'm led to believe the King of Korea was led to think in a few accounts, that the King of Korea was led to believe, this led to an Equal Alliance stance with us the United States. In the manner of European Empires of the time, he was not forced 'onto the shoulders' of the Russian orthodox church, the church was not Supervised as were Presbyterian churches in the British Empire, Methodists and Baptisttend to either not want acknowledgment by a "king", do not claim to lead supervision with another government, as adding In God We Trust and Under God in the pledge of allegiance, were public works inarguably Presbyterian, and in fact the Diplomatic missions to Korea, the embassy of America in that time were these same Presbyterian missionaries. Especially before World War 1 and the Russian court's fall to communism, the end of a long era of diplomacy through Christian struggles.
Everyone today is susceptible to discrimination to the idea of a thoughtful family arrangement in marriage, of believing in a full open competition in all personal and public arenas, and imposing a temporary divorce prone modern marriage standard. First generation Korean Americans and since the immigration reforms of the 2nd generation have a great chance for fellowship in Presbyterian Churches whom we could force through many Initiation Difficulties, as many as we want or dream to make until they decide to refuse. Let's respect their land by respecting our own land and meet for positivity.
PCUSA Announcement.
This a PCUSA mission celebration announcement as Most Koreans are arriving with the PCUSA Korean mission. The Korean Presbyterian Church of Korea or the Korean Presbyterian Church Abroad celebrates 100th Anniversary of the official Church establishment.
This article will cover background on Presbyterianism. Then, what is the presented Presbyterian religion and national experience for Korean Americans, their experience as Americans and citizens, and covers shortsighted problems in African American communities.
The foundation and survival of Christianity lies completely in Feudal Europe. Christianity survived at points in time Solely in Orthodox Churches in and out of Byzantium and Catholic Churches. Catholic Churches and the Pope worked a restoration of the Western Roman Unity through aristocratic families intermarrying across the new Feudal Kingdoms and diplomatic marriages. The Reformed Church along with many claims, retained women from these diplomatic marriages to foreign kingdoms or countries. The full Reformed Church from all Papal dependency, can be exampled in American Puritans, the French Huguenots, Presbyterians in Scotland, various Reformed original churches in Hungary under the Ottomans and elsewhere. John Calvin and John Knox really have no dependency on Martin Luther, or Lutherans, or followers such as the Anglican, Baptist, Methodist, strains of itinerant preachers protesting Rome. Reformed Churches are not about never "kneeling again to the Pope", and sometimes, the Pope is still in writing, having a special demonic part in the end Days. There are likely few systems to Reclaim Reformed churches for the Pope. John Calvin founded as a lawyer the religion in Switzerland and John Knox took his teacher's issue to the government of Scotland. Reformation is exampled in American Puritans. No favoritism of government form is known to me besides that which is best for the people with some humanism, or so I see cited. It counsels Rulers in a way Baptists refuse a part in. Really, with or without it there are many anti-marriage laws across Kingdoms for the good of subjects.
Presbyterianism of course existed before and through and after the founding of the United States of America. It serves as a high pillar in the secular government's meaning of separation of Church And State. Anglicans were not given offices for that quality. A man's home and fireside was his own. For those who remember A Christmas Carol making a renewed case for Christmas traditions, the British Isles Protestantism uniquely favored removal of Roman Catholic holidays, instead, producing Thanksgivings, in USA, Canada, perhaps elsewhere. Only Easter, Thanksgivings, and the Sabbath Sunday being observed. Today, Liberal Theology aside, Neo-Catholocism for Anglicans and other reintroduces Christmas where in the Early United States of America it was detestable to George Washington to make a big deal of Christmas, and Christmas was illegal. Superstition and gathering merriment were frowned upon even in the unchurched Enlightenment.
Horace Grant Underwood was a Naturalized American, hailing from London. In 1885 patriotic spirits existed such as My Country Tis of Thee, Hail Columbia, and others, while the Star Spangled Banner may have existed but was not widely regarded as far as I know, until its 1931 adoption. America was known as Radical Republicanism, and Liberty defined in that way in contrast to monarchies. Communism was not yet in an infancy anywhere. Auld Lang Syne known throughout the English world from a Scottish Poem was taken by Presbyterians to form the National Anthem in Korea, with lyrics that were changed. In 1885 along with many denominations with positive ecumenical relation (or communication) such as Methodists , and many smaller contributions, the Reverend Horace Grant Underwood had 50 American men and their wives to Korea. This was a Welcomed and Invited "Call of Korea" as is the title of Underwood's book. That quality of called, voluntary adoption, is essential to Korea. In 10 years after meeting King Gojong's wife in a Christian fashion, of celebrating Underwood's own wedding "native to America" and celebrating King Gojong's Christian wedding "native to Korea" in the usual Christian ceremonies today, of Underwood's leading Korean obedience to the rightful King's government, Underwood would undoubtedly be grieved at the Queen's apparent assassination, dismemberment, and burning by Japanese invaders in Korea. Queen Myungseong's death signals great suspicion and a new era for Korea heading toward being conquered. However, Presbyterians in Korea see the church as progress oriented as it did show through American contractors, western institution and technology that did not require Japanese intervention. Underwood founded universities and hospitals in Korea such as Yonsei University, or Gejungwon Hospital, is detailed in "The Call of Korea".
In the meantime between 1930, of any real free or personally decided migration of Koreans under Japanese rule, and 1958, the end of World War 2, the last of the Korean War, and shocks of reintroduction between the Presbyterian Church of America and Korea must be covered. After the Korean War, America experienced the anti-war movement, the Civil Rights movement, the hippies' movement, which all led to wanted changes For Americans At That Time. In all of this marching, a Spirit that is American is undoubtedly crushed. US Census numbers show that around 1951 and that timeperiod perhaps 5 to 7 million Americans were Presbyterian to 1958 dissolutions and reorganizations of the rightly Historic church, to the present day being only 2 or 3 million Presbyterians in America today who are mostly elderly OR, Korean American, who in the 70 to 80% majority identify as Presbyterian on being in the United States. The United States upheavals in a way, leave this weak "healing" PCUSA , isolated and radical, next to Presbyterian churches established by the USA in other countries, such as Mexico, the Presbyterian Churches under the established Scottish church known as The Kirk, in British Africa. Presbyterians and Reformed churches are far away from the PCUSA which causes disagreement even with Presbyterians who are left in this disintegrating church.It is right and noble for Korean Americans to be Presbyterians, really, being Americans, the thoughtful sort of Americans who signed our Declaration of Independence. That nobility of pursuit won't be stolen from Korean Americans.
The Korean American experience is relatively unsubstantial and unregarded. Korean Americans neither can expect to impose South Korea, North Korea, or any earlier Korea onto the American conscience or have a cultural melting pot that is uniquely catching on. The LA Riots of 1992 are a touchstone of mistrust between Korean American and African American and generally with other communities.
I am going to speak on an important contribution to be brought by the African American community. First, is the background on which I believe this can be said. African Americans have a culture directly in its root regarding Slavery. A majority of its culture is a direct rejection of culture, persons, and circumstances, and all study toward the persons around slavery. They are uniquely positioned, not as a Northern White person of Today, or any other demographic. The full study of their roots in America can't be done hatefully, or as a hashtag, and in daily life that is therefore a rejected topic derisively without argument. I see an African American community completely subservient to a complete and Final Northern Victory in this regard. Many of our race relations discussions can find their Exact roots in this institution. Where the Empire of Spain made many grades of colors from light to dark to distinguish mixtures of native or Spaniard, today these words don't identify or translate well as White or Black. Victorian mother-centered home and family is far more descriptive of the one-drop rule or matrilinealism than is naming an arbitrary system of oppression when many such systems existed. When racism was a poorly examined element and side affect in a distant past by scholarly men, we see they spoke of the Dixie flag as the Cross of Scotland the south's claim to state independence to a tyrannical government union in parallel with recent developments of England and Scotland in the Union Jack. 90% of black "native brothers" who took the same journey arrived to a Catholic Master elsewhere in the America's in harsher conditions in disregard of life or happiness. African Americans are culturally ignoring Presbyterian Africans awaiting brotherhood from the former British Empire. Because Baptists and Methodists tended to cause rebellions in slavery systems, preach more meaningfully to slaves, and discourage slave owners as either pastors or missionaries, Baptists and Methodists have a unswayable link to African American culture. However, Baptists and Methodists as denominations promote an American Centric views on religion. Their place is uncertain in the Christian world as a unit, and take African Americans away from the central pillars of Christendom or the wider universality identity of Christianity. Methodists and Baptists while as large as Presbyterians around the world, are not around the world, have a shorter history since 1830 and Are Not Studied around the world, the wide association of Christians for Christians. African Americans reject from slavery, all vestiges of identification and justification Through links of Original and Organized denominational, religions founded in Europe.
Both African Americans and Korean Americans want a fair chance from both the government and the people of the United States. It should be noted, however, when Korean Americans came to LA with advanced educations from Korea, these were not regarded qualities. African Americans wish to claim a sway of influence and power and really, black privilege in America over Universality principles of being a Christian. African Methodist and African Baptist churches were founded by themselves for independence, while United Methodists and Southern Baptists including Martin Luther King Jr, call for these to be brought together in true brotherhood, to pray together, hand in hand. That is a complicated history of segregation and bias. National Origin, Racial Bias, and Status can all be regarded distinctly. Horace Grant Underwood, like John Knox who arrived to the government of Scotland, went to Korea with the mission of establishing for the Koreans their Church and presided for some time, is today acknowledged in their church history, and was turned over to Koreans since his death in 1916. The Confucian class system was important and uninhibited as well as public ceremonies. Far more important is the true provision of the Word, in Korean, the church and its safety, and the rightful government of Korea. I'm led to believe the King of Korea was led to think in a few accounts, that the King of Korea was led to believe, this led to an Equal Alliance stance with us the United States. In the manner of European Empires of the time, he was not forced 'onto the shoulders' of the Russian orthodox church, the church was not Supervised as were Presbyterian churches in the British Empire, Methodists and Baptisttend to either not want acknowledgment by a "king", do not claim to lead supervision with another government, as adding In God We Trust and Under God in the pledge of allegiance, were public works inarguably Presbyterian, and in fact the Diplomatic missions to Korea, the embassy of America in that time were these same Presbyterian missionaries. Especially before World War 1 and the Russian court's fall to communism, the end of a long era of diplomacy through Christian struggles.
Everyone today is susceptible to discrimination to the idea of a thoughtful family arrangement in marriage, of believing in a full open competition in all personal and public arenas, and imposing a temporary divorce prone modern marriage standard. First generation Korean Americans and since the immigration reforms of the 2nd generation have a great chance for fellowship in Presbyterian Churches whom we could force through many Initiation Difficulties, as many as we want or dream to make until they decide to refuse. Let's respect their land by respecting our own land and meet for positivity.
PCUSA Announcement.
This a PCUSA mission celebration announcement as Most Koreans are arriving with the PCUSA Korean mission. The Korean Presbyterian Church of Korea or the Korean Presbyterian Church Abroad celebrates 100th Anniversary of the official Church establishment.
