Koch Brothers deep pockets are supporting .... TADA!!!

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Congratulations, Mr. Cain!

Long ties to Koch brothers key to Cain’s campaign - The Washington Post

Cain’s campaign manager and a number of aides have worked for Americans for Prosperity, or AFP, the advocacy group founded with support from billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch, which lobbies for lower taxes and less government regulation and spending. Cain credits a businessman who served on an AFP advisory board with helping devise his “9-9-9” plan to rewrite the nation’s tax code. And his years of speaking at AFP events have given the businessman and radio host a network of loyal grassroots fans.

The once little-known businessman’s political activities are getting fresh scrutiny these days since he soared to the top of some national polls.

His links to the Koch brothers could undercut his outsider, non-political image among tea party fans who detest politics as usual and candidates connected with the party machine.
Lord, I do love the internet. It's hard to pull the wool over people's eyes when they have instant access to full disclosure. :D

And in other news;

Herman Cain Newsweek Profile: Calls Obama 'Terrible,' Fires Back at Critics - The Daily Beast

Cain has spent most of his life individualizing the message of the civil-rights movement and insisting color should not play a role in modern politics. But such a view may begin to sound naive if his candidacy continues to alienate African-Americans. In the past week, Cain has had to fend off challenges from multiple black luminaries, including Cornell West, who accused Cain of “coldness toward poor people,” and Syracuse professor Boyce Watkins, who on CNN called him “the perfect racist.”

Georgetown professor Michael Eric Dyson told Newsweek he thinks of Cain as “Jimmy Stewart in blackface.” “He’s Mr. Smith goes to Washington. The good ol’ boy you just love. He’s the black man white people would prefer over Obama, and he’s the black man that is more like them and who thinks like them. He makes them feel they aren’t racist because they support him at this level and not Obama.’’

Singer and civil-rights activist Harry Belafonte, who made headlines when he called Cain a “bad apple” during a recent interview with Joy Behar, says it’s impossible to accept Cain as a black candidate with those politics. “I’m pretty sure African-Americans don’t take Cain seriously, but I’m not sure about white people,” Belafonte tells Newsweek. “They believe this black man is the real deal. He isn’t. Anyone who says what he says isn’t.”

Cain has fired back at his critics—and in doing so, only inflamed the controversy. “He’s been on that banana boat too long,” he says in response to Belafonte, accusing the 84-year-old performer of trying to “intimidate” people of color who might even consider supporting his candidacy. “Harry Belafonte called me a bad apple. Now he knows he’s not going to shut me up.” And speaking to other media outlets earlier this week, he said West had “been in academia too long” and was hung up on “symbolic stuff.”
Oh, yeah. This is going to be oodles of fun. :)
 

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Congratulations, Mr. Cain!

Long ties to Koch brothers key to Cain’s campaign - The Washington Post

Cain’s campaign manager and a number of aides have worked for Americans for Prosperity, or AFP, the advocacy group founded with support from billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch, which lobbies for lower taxes and less government regulation and spending. Cain credits a businessman who served on an AFP advisory board with helping devise his “9-9-9” plan to rewrite the nation’s tax code. And his years of speaking at AFP events have given the businessman and radio host a network of loyal grassroots fans.

The once little-known businessman’s political activities are getting fresh scrutiny these days since he soared to the top of some national polls.

His links to the Koch brothers could undercut his outsider, non-political image among tea party fans who detest politics as usual and candidates connected with the party machine.
Lord, I do love the internet. It's hard to pull the wool over people's eyes when they have instant access to full disclosure. :D

And in other news;

Herman Cain Newsweek Profile: Calls Obama 'Terrible,' Fires Back at Critics - The Daily Beast

Cain has spent most of his life individualizing the message of the civil-rights movement and insisting color should not play a role in modern politics. But such a view may begin to sound naive if his candidacy continues to alienate African-Americans. In the past week, Cain has had to fend off challenges from multiple black luminaries, including Cornell West, who accused Cain of “coldness toward poor people,” and Syracuse professor Boyce Watkins, who on CNN called him “the perfect racist.”

Georgetown professor Michael Eric Dyson told Newsweek he thinks of Cain as “Jimmy Stewart in blackface.” “He’s Mr. Smith goes to Washington. The good ol’ boy you just love. He’s the black man white people would prefer over Obama, and he’s the black man that is more like them and who thinks like them. He makes them feel they aren’t racist because they support him at this level and not Obama.’’

Singer and civil-rights activist Harry Belafonte, who made headlines when he called Cain a “bad apple” during a recent interview with Joy Behar, says it’s impossible to accept Cain as a black candidate with those politics. “I’m pretty sure African-Americans don’t take Cain seriously, but I’m not sure about white people,” Belafonte tells Newsweek. “They believe this black man is the real deal. He isn’t. Anyone who says what he says isn’t.”

Cain has fired back at his critics—and in doing so, only inflamed the controversy. “He’s been on that banana boat too long,” he says in response to Belafonte, accusing the 84-year-old performer of trying to “intimidate” people of color who might even consider supporting his candidacy. “Harry Belafonte called me a bad apple. Now he knows he’s not going to shut me up.” And speaking to other media outlets earlier this week, he said West had “been in academia too long” and was hung up on “symbolic stuff.”
Oh, yeah. This is going to be oodles of fun. :)
This probably cinches the VP slot.

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Yet the unions are the highest to donate to any candidate
. POT calling on Kettle
Then why is there only one in the top 10?

Top Overall Donors | OpenSecrets
Ok , we will go there , How about the top 15 donors are to democRATS
1 ActBlue $55,745,059 99% 0%
2 AT&T Inc $47,571,779 44% 55%
3 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $46,167,658 94% 1%

4 National Assn of Realtors $40,718,176 47% 49%

5 Service Employees International Union $37,634,367 75% 2%

6 National Education Assn $37,051,378 82% 5%

7 Goldman Sachs $35,790,579 60% 39%

8 American Assn for Justice $34,715,804 89% 8%

9 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $34,292,471 97% 2%

10 Laborers Union $31,876,950 89% 7%

11 American Federation of Teachers $31,681,366 91% 0%

12 Teamsters Union $31,285,842 89% 6%

13 Carpenters & Joiners Union $30,769,258 86% 9%

14 Communications Workers of America $30,192,447 94% 0%
15 Citigroup Inc $28,842,146 49% 49%

First percentage is for democrats , second is to the rep

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2012 | OpenSecrets
 

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Yet the unions are the highest to donate to any candidate
. POT calling on Kettle
Then why is there only one in the top 10?

Top Overall Donors | OpenSecrets
Ok , we will go there , How about the top 15 donors are to democRATS
1 ActBlue $55,745,059 99% 0%
2 AT&T Inc $47,571,779 44% 55%
3 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $46,167,658 94% 1%

4 National Assn of Realtors $40,718,176 47% 49%

5 Service Employees International Union $37,634,367 75% 2%

6 National Education Assn $37,051,378 82% 5%

7 Goldman Sachs $35,790,579 60% 39%

8 American Assn for Justice $34,715,804 89% 8%

9 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $34,292,471 97% 2%

10 Laborers Union $31,876,950 89% 7%

11 American Federation of Teachers $31,681,366 91% 0%

12 Teamsters Union $31,285,842 89% 6%

13 Carpenters & Joiners Union $30,769,258 86% 9%

14 Communications Workers of America $30,192,447 94% 0%
15 Citigroup Inc $28,842,146 49% 49%

First percentage is for democrats , second is to the rep

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2012 | OpenSecrets
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Then why is there only one in the top 10?

Top Overall Donors | OpenSecrets
Ok , we will go there , How about the top 15 donors are to democRATS
1 ActBlue $55,745,059 99% 0%
2 AT&T Inc $47,571,779 44% 55%
3 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $46,167,658 94% 1%

4 National Assn of Realtors $40,718,176 47% 49%

5 Service Employees International Union $37,634,367 75% 2%

6 National Education Assn $37,051,378 82% 5%

7 Goldman Sachs $35,790,579 60% 39%

8 American Assn for Justice $34,715,804 89% 8%

9 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $34,292,471 97% 2%

10 Laborers Union $31,876,950 89% 7%

11 American Federation of Teachers $31,681,366 91% 0%

12 Teamsters Union $31,285,842 89% 6%

13 Carpenters & Joiners Union $30,769,258 86% 9%

14 Communications Workers of America $30,192,447 94% 0%
15 Citigroup Inc $28,842,146 49% 49%

First percentage is for democrats , second is to the rep

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2012 | OpenSecrets
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At #1 on you list, "ActBlue" (Blue as in "Democrat States"):

Normally we give merchandise away for free, but yard signs are expensive.


When it's all said and done -- each sign costs $13.76 to print, package and ship directly to your home. So, we're asking for a contribution of at least $16 to help cover all the costs. If you contribute more, we'll use the additional money raised to support the people on the ground in New York and beyond who started this bold movement.
https://secure.actblue.com/page/occupy?refcode=actblue_homepage
 

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Yet the unions are the highest to donate to any candidate
. POT calling on Kettle
Then why is there only one in the top 10?

Top Overall Donors | OpenSecrets
Ok , we will go there , How about the top 15 donors are to democRATS
1 ActBlue $55,745,059 99% 0%
2 AT&T Inc $47,571,779 44% 55%
3 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $46,167,658 94% 1%

4 National Assn of Realtors $40,718,176 47% 49%

5 Service Employees International Union $37,634,367 75% 2%

6 National Education Assn $37,051,378 82% 5%

7 Goldman Sachs $35,790,579 60% 39%

8 American Assn for Justice $34,715,804 89% 8%

9 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $34,292,471 97% 2%

10 Laborers Union $31,876,950 89% 7%

11 American Federation of Teachers $31,681,366 91% 0%

12 Teamsters Union $31,285,842 89% 6%

13 Carpenters & Joiners Union $30,769,258 86% 9%

14 Communications Workers of America $30,192,447 94% 0%
15 Citigroup Inc $28,842,146 49% 49%

First percentage is for democrats , second is to the rep

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2012 | OpenSecrets
So? Are you now suggesting corporations can't donate money? Aren't they people with a constitutionally protected right to free speech?
 

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Then why is there only one in the top 10?

Top Overall Donors | OpenSecrets
Ok , we will go there , How about the top 15 donors are to democRATS
1 ActBlue $55,745,059 99% 0%
2 AT&T Inc $47,571,779 44% 55%
3 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $46,167,658 94% 1%

4 National Assn of Realtors $40,718,176 47% 49%

5 Service Employees International Union $37,634,367 75% 2%

6 National Education Assn $37,051,378 82% 5%

7 Goldman Sachs $35,790,579 60% 39%

8 American Assn for Justice $34,715,804 89% 8%

9 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $34,292,471 97% 2%

10 Laborers Union $31,876,950 89% 7%

11 American Federation of Teachers $31,681,366 91% 0%

12 Teamsters Union $31,285,842 89% 6%

13 Carpenters & Joiners Union $30,769,258 86% 9%

14 Communications Workers of America $30,192,447 94% 0%
15 Citigroup Inc $28,842,146 49% 49%

First percentage is for democrats , second is to the rep

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2012 | OpenSecrets
So? Are you now suggesting corporations can't donate money? Aren't they people with a constitutionally protected right to free speech?
I am not saying that at all. Its you guys who keep saying about the Koch brothers and donations we are just trying to point out how hypocritical you guys are:cuckoo:
 

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Yet the unions are the highest to donate to any candidate
. POT calling on Kettle
Then why is there only one in the top 10?

Top Overall Donors | OpenSecrets
Ok , we will go there , How about the top 15 donors are to democRATS
1 ActBlue $55,745,059 99% 0%
2 AT&T Inc $47,571,779 44% 55%
3 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $46,167,658 94% 1%

4 National Assn of Realtors $40,718,176 47% 49%

5 Service Employees International Union $37,634,367 75% 2%

6 National Education Assn $37,051,378 82% 5%

7 Goldman Sachs $35,790,579 60% 39%

8 American Assn for Justice $34,715,804 89% 8%

9 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $34,292,471 97% 2%

10 Laborers Union $31,876,950 89% 7%

11 American Federation of Teachers $31,681,366 91% 0%

12 Teamsters Union $31,285,842 89% 6%

13 Carpenters & Joiners Union $30,769,258 86% 9%

14 Communications Workers of America $30,192,447 94% 0%
15 Citigroup Inc $28,842,146 49% 49%

First percentage is for democrats , second is to the rep

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2012 | OpenSecrets
So if campaign financing is such an issue, why did you guys hate McCain/Feingold and cheer the Citizen's United outcome?

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I am not saying that at all. Its you guys who keep saying about the Koch brothers and donations we are just trying to point out how hypocritical you guys are:cuckoo:
It's not hypocritical.

I don't want to see two brothers be allowed to funnel an unlimited amount of money into our elections. That is totally separate from how much money was funneled into elections 20 years ago.
 
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is this better or worse than being backed by Soros?

:eusa_whistle:
It is the same. Unfortunately, many on the left appear to be living in one of the 7 states that the rest of us are still searching for. I believe this one is called 'denial'.
 

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Then why is there only one in the top 10?

Top Overall Donors | OpenSecrets
Ok , we will go there , How about the top 15 donors are to democRATS
1 ActBlue $55,745,059 99% 0%
2 AT&T Inc $47,571,779 44% 55%
3 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $46,167,658 94% 1%

4 National Assn of Realtors $40,718,176 47% 49%

5 Service Employees International Union $37,634,367 75% 2%

6 National Education Assn $37,051,378 82% 5%

7 Goldman Sachs $35,790,579 60% 39%

8 American Assn for Justice $34,715,804 89% 8%

9 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $34,292,471 97% 2%

10 Laborers Union $31,876,950 89% 7%

11 American Federation of Teachers $31,681,366 91% 0%

12 Teamsters Union $31,285,842 89% 6%

13 Carpenters & Joiners Union $30,769,258 86% 9%

14 Communications Workers of America $30,192,447 94% 0%
15 Citigroup Inc $28,842,146 49% 49%

First percentage is for democrats , second is to the rep

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2012 | OpenSecrets
So? Are you now suggesting corporations can't donate money? Aren't they people with a constitutionally protected right to free speech?
Of course they are... you left wing moonbats are the ones with your collective panties in a bunch... all the while being owned lock, stock and barrel by unions and corporations.
 

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I am not saying that at all. Its you guys who keep saying about the Koch brothers and donations we are just trying to point out how hypocritical you guys are:cuckoo:
It's not hypocritical.

I don't want to see two brothers be allowed to funnel an unlimited amount of money into our elections. That is totally separate from how much money was funneled into elections 20 years ago.
A president with a supermajority in congress shoulda done something about this....

....I wonder who.....:eusa_whistle:
 
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I am not saying that at all. Its you guys who keep saying about the Koch brothers and donations we are just trying to point out how hypocritical you guys are:cuckoo:
It's not hypocritical.

I don't want to see two brothers be allowed to funnel an unlimited amount of money into our elections. That is totally separate from how much money was funneled into elections 20 years ago.
Come back and bitch when your team stops accepting funds from Soros. Until then, you're just another hypocrite.
 

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Dang. I was hoping the Kochs would support Romney.


But if they were, someone would use that as yet another excuse to pan Romney.
 

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I am not saying that at all. Its you guys who keep saying about the Koch brothers and donations we are just trying to point out how hypocritical you guys are:cuckoo:
It's not hypocritical.

I don't want to see two brothers be allowed to funnel an unlimited amount of money into our elections. That is totally separate from how much money was funneled into elections 20 years ago.
A president with a supermajority in congress shoulda done something about this....

....I wonder who.....:eusa_whistle:
I'm waiting to read his position on Soros.
 

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