Kellyanne admits it - they aren't really going to repeal Obamacare.

[saveliberty]

All you need to do is remove the mandatory coverage clause and it dies on its own.

They've already done that by removing all fines and penalties for not signing up.

I know.

 

[Iceweasel]

The GOP is in a tight spot because support for REPEAL is now down to under 20%.

Over 70% as of this morning. Obiecare has never had widespread support.

 

[mudwhistle]

That’s your opinion.

Obamacare is simply a complex way to raise taxes thru mandates. The mandates have been essentially repealed. Trump signed a memo directing all agencies to ignore instituting the mandate portion of Obamacare, which basically removes the damage it caused. In effect, the IRS cannot withhold your refund as of Jan. 20th 2017. It also prevents businesses and insurance companies from punishment for not meeting with the new provisions contained in Obamacare that would go into effect this year.

You are misinformed. IRS can still withhold your refund. Executive order is written in supremely vague language that could mean right about anything as far as enforcement of mandates, because at the end of the day Trump has no authority to repeal any part of the law on his own.

And the order, crucially, notes that agencies can act only “to the maximum extent permitted by law.” (How the Trump administration interprets those permissions, of course, is yet untested.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/...-against-the-health-law-actually-do.html?_r=0

The law is that IRS is to collect penalty if you have no insurance that meets the standard ACA lays out.

Trump can direct agencies to ignore the law the way Obama decided to ignore immigration laws. If you want to get into a legal a fight over your right to get millions of people kicked off of their health insurance.....go for it.

Speculative. Fact remains that IRS can still withhold a tax for not having insurance.

If everything is left as is and there is no penalty people will simply not get instance until they need it, making providing insurance a losing proposition and unraveling whole individual market and crashing our healthcare system.

I don't think you understand....or maybe you do.

The ACA requires that people buy insurance coverage they don't want or they don't need. It also requires employers to pay for it. Many employers would rather pay a fine than pay for insurance for their employees. Millions will lose their current coverage and have to join an exchange and sign up for insurance that is too expensive and has higher than normal deductibles, rendering their coverage useless. Some companies, just to avoid paying a penalty (tax), will reduce their employees' hours to get below the minimum required to qualify for mandates reducing their incomes. Good luck taking that to court too.

I don't think you understand, mandate is in the law because a system that provides access to healthcare to all Americans (Republicans and Trump are still promising to remain) DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT IT.

Obama didn't like the idea of mandate, but he had to accept it because the alternative of insurance-only-when-you-want-it cannot work.

No person in this world is without risk of serious injury or expensive illness. Correspondingly, no person in this world should be without insurance. Republicans used to call insurance mandate a matter of taking responsibility for the financial risk your body poses to society...times have changed.

Fortunately this is a free society and being forced to buy any product is not within the powers of the federal government. They can tax us, but they cannot force us to buy insurance, which is not innumerable in the US Constitution.

 

[AntonToo]

You are misinformed. IRS can still withhold your refund. Executive order is written in supremely vague language that could mean right about anything as far as enforcement of mandates, because at the end of the day Trump has no authority to repeal any part of the law on his own.

And the order, crucially, notes that agencies can act only “to the maximum extent permitted by law.” (How the Trump administration interprets those permissions, of course, is yet untested.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/...-against-the-health-law-actually-do.html?_r=0

The law is that IRS is to collect penalty if you have no insurance that meets the standard ACA lays out.

Trump can direct agencies to ignore the law the way Obama decided to ignore immigration laws. If you want to get into a legal a fight over your right to get millions of people kicked off of their health insurance.....go for it.

Speculative. Fact remains that IRS can still withhold a tax for not having insurance.

If everything is left as is and there is no penalty people will simply not get instance until they need it, making providing insurance a losing proposition and unraveling whole individual market and crashing our healthcare system.

I don't think you understand....or maybe you do.

The ACA requires that people buy insurance coverage they don't want or they don't need. It also requires employers to pay for it. Many employers would rather pay a fine than pay for insurance for their employees. Millions will lose their current coverage and have to join an exchange and sign up for insurance that is too expensive and has higher than normal deductibles, rendering their coverage useless. Some companies, just to avoid paying a penalty (tax), will reduce their employees' hours to get below the minimum required to qualify for mandates reducing their incomes. Good luck taking that to court too.

I don't think you understand, mandate is in the law because a system that provides access to healthcare to all Americans (Republicans and Trump are still promising to remain) DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT IT.

Obama didn't like the idea of mandate, but he had to accept it because the alternative of insurance-only-when-you-want-it cannot work.

No person in this world is without risk of serious injury or expensive illness. Correspondingly, no person in this world should be without insurance. Republicans used to call insurance mandate a matter of taking responsibility for the financial risk your body poses to society...times have changed.

Fortunately this is a free society and being forced to buy any product is not within the powers of the federal government. They can tax us, but they cannot force us to buy insurance, which is not innumerable in the US Constitution.

Supreme Court, with conservative majority no less, disagrees with your claims. And unlike your opinion, their decision was the final say on the matter.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You are misinformed. IRS can still withhold your refund. Executive order is written in supremely vague language that could mean right about anything as far as enforcement of mandates, because at the end of the day Trump has no authority to repeal any part of the law on his own.

And the order, crucially, notes that agencies can act only “to the maximum extent permitted by law.” (How the Trump administration interprets those permissions, of course, is yet untested.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/...-against-the-health-law-actually-do.html?_r=0

The law is that IRS is to collect penalty if you have no insurance that meets the standard ACA lays out.

Trump can direct agencies to ignore the law the way Obama decided to ignore immigration laws. If you want to get into a legal a fight over your right to get millions of people kicked off of their health insurance.....go for it.

Speculative. Fact remains that IRS can still withhold a tax for not having insurance.

If everything is left as is and there is no penalty people will simply not get instance until they need it, making providing insurance a losing proposition and unraveling whole individual market and crashing our healthcare system.

I don't think you understand....or maybe you do.

The ACA requires that people buy insurance coverage they don't want or they don't need. It also requires employers to pay for it. Many employers would rather pay a fine than pay for insurance for their employees. Millions will lose their current coverage and have to join an exchange and sign up for insurance that is too expensive and has higher than normal deductibles, rendering their coverage useless. Some companies, just to avoid paying a penalty (tax), will reduce their employees' hours to get below the minimum required to qualify for mandates reducing their incomes. Good luck taking that to court too.

I don't think you understand, mandate is in the law because a system that provides access to healthcare to all Americans (Republicans and Trump are still promising to remain) DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT IT.

Obama didn't like the idea of mandate, but he had to accept it because the alternative of insurance-only-when-you-want-it cannot work.

No person in this world is without risk of serious injury or expensive illness. Correspondingly, no person in this world should be without insurance. Republicans used to call insurance mandate a matter of taking responsibility for the financial risk your body poses to society...times have changed.

Fortunately this is a free society and being forced to buy any product is not within the powers of the federal government. They can tax us, but they cannot force us to buy insurance, which is not innumerable in the US Constitution.

You are wrong. The mandate never forces you to buy insurance.

1. Yes, the federal government can tax you.
2. The federal government can also give you a specific, targeted tax credit or reduction that you can only get if you do something specific -

have a kid, get a mortgage, BUY HEALTH INSURANCE, etc.

 

[mudwhistle]

Trump can direct agencies to ignore the law the way Obama decided to ignore immigration laws. If you want to get into a legal a fight over your right to get millions of people kicked off of their health insurance.....go for it.

Speculative. Fact remains that IRS can still withhold a tax for not having insurance.

If everything is left as is and there is no penalty people will simply not get instance until they need it, making providing insurance a losing proposition and unraveling whole individual market and crashing our healthcare system.

I don't think you understand....or maybe you do.

The ACA requires that people buy insurance coverage they don't want or they don't need. It also requires employers to pay for it. Many employers would rather pay a fine than pay for insurance for their employees. Millions will lose their current coverage and have to join an exchange and sign up for insurance that is too expensive and has higher than normal deductibles, rendering their coverage useless. Some companies, just to avoid paying a penalty (tax), will reduce their employees' hours to get below the minimum required to qualify for mandates reducing their incomes. Good luck taking that to court too.

I don't think you understand, mandate is in the law because a system that provides access to healthcare to all Americans (Republicans and Trump are still promising to remain) DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT IT.

Obama didn't like the idea of mandate, but he had to accept it because the alternative of insurance-only-when-you-want-it cannot work.

No person in this world is without risk of serious injury or expensive illness. Correspondingly, no person in this world should be without insurance. Republicans used to call insurance mandate a matter of taking responsibility for the financial risk your body poses to society...times have changed.

Fortunately this is a free society and being forced to buy any product is not within the powers of the federal government. They can tax us, but they cannot force us to buy insurance, which is not innumerable in the US Constitution.

You are wrong. The mandate never forces you to buy insurance.

1. Yes, the federal government can tax you.
2. The federal government can also give you a specific, targeted tax credit or reduction that you can only get if you do something specific -

have a kid, get a mortgage, BUY HEALTH INSURANCE, etc.

You say potatoooo....I say potaato.

I already said they can't, ....

 

[AntonToo]

Speculative. Fact remains that IRS can still withhold a tax for not having insurance.

If everything is left as is and there is no penalty people will simply not get instance until they need it, making providing insurance a losing proposition and unraveling whole individual market and crashing our healthcare system.

I don't think you understand....or maybe you do.

The ACA requires that people buy insurance coverage they don't want or they don't need. It also requires employers to pay for it. Many employers would rather pay a fine than pay for insurance for their employees. Millions will lose their current coverage and have to join an exchange and sign up for insurance that is too expensive and has higher than normal deductibles, rendering their coverage useless. Some companies, just to avoid paying a penalty (tax), will reduce their employees' hours to get below the minimum required to qualify for mandates reducing their incomes. Good luck taking that to court too.

I don't think you understand, mandate is in the law because a system that provides access to healthcare to all Americans (Republicans and Trump are still promising to remain) DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT IT.

Obama didn't like the idea of mandate, but he had to accept it because the alternative of insurance-only-when-you-want-it cannot work.

No person in this world is without risk of serious injury or expensive illness. Correspondingly, no person in this world should be without insurance. Republicans used to call insurance mandate a matter of taking responsibility for the financial risk your body poses to society...times have changed.

Fortunately this is a free society and being forced to buy any product is not within the powers of the federal government. They can tax us, but they cannot force us to buy insurance, which is not innumerable in the US Constitution.

You are wrong. The mandate never forces you to buy insurance.

1. Yes, the federal government can tax you.
2. The federal government can also give you a specific, targeted tax credit or reduction that you can only get if you do something specific -

have a kid, get a mortgage, BUY HEALTH INSURANCE, etc.

You say potatoooo....I say potaato.

I already said they can't, ....

That is exactly it - Supreme Court refused to dismantle a whole law over potatooo/pataatoing.

Substantively, Feds have this power in form of a tax.

 

[2aguy]

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan

"Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President Donald Trump, said Sunday that no one will lose their health insurance during the transition from the Affordable Care Act to a new health care law Republicans aim to put in place. “For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during his transition time,” Conway told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

So they admit that people are relying on coverage obtained as a result of the ACA, they admit that people are benefiting from it, and they concede they can't simply repeal the ACA as they promised.

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan - CBS News

You see, what they're really going to do is keep Obamacare, while making some supposed 'improvements', and call it repeal and replace,

and in the process, they'll end up effectively claiming credit for the 'new' Obamacare.

Wow....the stupid is strong with you today.....she didn't say anything that you stated in your title.......she is specifically saying they are going to repeal obamacare and replace it and during that time no one will be without care.......you should get some help with your issues.......

What is ending....the government take over of healthcare so that we will not have 320 million people in a VA quality healthcare system that allows veterans to die on fake waiting lists...

 

[AntonToo]

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan

"Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President Donald Trump, said Sunday that no one will lose their health insurance during the transition from the Affordable Care Act to a new health care law Republicans aim to put in place. “For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during his transition time,” Conway told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

So they admit that people are relying on coverage obtained as a result of the ACA, they admit that people are benefiting from it, and they concede they can't simply repeal the ACA as they promised.

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan - CBS News

You see, what they're really going to do is keep Obamacare, while making some supposed 'improvements', and call it repeal and replace,

and in the process, they'll end up effectively claiming credit for the 'new' Obamacare.

Wow....the stupid is strong with you today.....she didn't say anything that you stated in your title.......she is specifically saying they are going to repeal obamacare and replace it and during that time no one will be without care.......you should get some help with your issues.......

What is ending....the government take over of healthcare so that we will not have 320 million people in a VA quality healthcare system that allows veterans to die on fake waiting lists...

Confusing fundamentally market based system like ACA with single payer system like VA is quite ignorant of you.

 

[2aguy]

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan

"Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President Donald Trump, said Sunday that no one will lose their health insurance during the transition from the Affordable Care Act to a new health care law Republicans aim to put in place. “For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during his transition time,” Conway told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

So they admit that people are relying on coverage obtained as a result of the ACA, they admit that people are benefiting from it, and they concede they can't simply repeal the ACA as they promised.

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan - CBS News

You see, what they're really going to do is keep Obamacare, while making some supposed 'improvements', and call it repeal and replace,

and in the process, they'll end up effectively claiming credit for the 'new' Obamacare.

Wow....the stupid is strong with you today.....she didn't say anything that you stated in your title.......she is specifically saying they are going to repeal obamacare and replace it and during that time no one will be without care.......you should get some help with your issues.......

What is ending....the government take over of healthcare so that we will not have 320 million people in a VA quality healthcare system that allows veterans to die on fake waiting lists...

Confusing fundamentally market based system like ACA with single payer system like VA is quite ignorant of you.

wrong.....the ACA is not market based in any way shape or form....forcing people to go into it is not market based......the goal of the ACA was to destroy the private insurance industry by driving up cost and reducing quality.......then they would push for single payer, VA style healthcare..........try to keep up.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan

"Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President Donald Trump, said Sunday that no one will lose their health insurance during the transition from the Affordable Care Act to a new health care law Republicans aim to put in place. “For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during his transition time,” Conway told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

So they admit that people are relying on coverage obtained as a result of the ACA, they admit that people are benefiting from it, and they concede they can't simply repeal the ACA as they promised.

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan - CBS News

You see, what they're really going to do is keep Obamacare, while making some supposed 'improvements', and call it repeal and replace,

and in the process, they'll end up effectively claiming credit for the 'new' Obamacare.

Wow....the stupid is strong with you today.....she didn't say anything that you stated in your title.......she is specifically saying they are going to repeal obamacare and replace it and during that time no one will be without care.......you should get some help with your issues.......

What is ending....the government take over of healthcare so that we will not have 320 million people in a VA quality healthcare system that allows veterans to die on fake waiting lists...

So how do they plan to insure the millions who are now on subsidized insurance, or on expanded Medicare, or have pre-existing conditions, or are on their parents' plan, or now have insurance without lifetime limits?

How do they plan to preserve ALL of that in some way that won't simply be replacing Obamacare with Obamacare 2.0?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan

"Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President Donald Trump, said Sunday that no one will lose their health insurance during the transition from the Affordable Care Act to a new health care law Republicans aim to put in place. “For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during his transition time,” Conway told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

So they admit that people are relying on coverage obtained as a result of the ACA, they admit that people are benefiting from it, and they concede they can't simply repeal the ACA as they promised.

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan - CBS News

You see, what they're really going to do is keep Obamacare, while making some supposed 'improvements', and call it repeal and replace,

and in the process, they'll end up effectively claiming credit for the 'new' Obamacare.

Wow....the stupid is strong with you today.....she didn't say anything that you stated in your title.......she is specifically saying they are going to repeal obamacare and replace it and during that time no one will be without care.......you should get some help with your issues.......

What is ending....the government take over of healthcare so that we will not have 320 million people in a VA quality healthcare system that allows veterans to die on fake waiting lists...

Confusing fundamentally market based system like ACA with single payer system like VA is quite ignorant of you.

wrong.....the ACA is not market based in any way shape or form....forcing people to go into it is not market based......the goal of the ACA was to destroy the private insurance industry by driving up cost and reducing quality.......then they would push for single payer, VA style healthcare..........try to keep up.

Is the housing market not market based, given that the government will give you a huge tax break on your mortgage?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan

"Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President Donald Trump, said Sunday that no one will lose their health insurance during the transition from the Affordable Care Act to a new health care law Republicans aim to put in place. “For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during his transition time,” Conway told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

So they admit that people are relying on coverage obtained as a result of the ACA, they admit that people are benefiting from it, and they concede they can't simply repeal the ACA as they promised.

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan - CBS News

You see, what they're really going to do is keep Obamacare, while making some supposed 'improvements', and call it repeal and replace,

and in the process, they'll end up effectively claiming credit for the 'new' Obamacare.

Wow....the stupid is strong with you today.....she didn't say anything that you stated in your title.......she is specifically saying they are going to repeal obamacare and replace it and during that time no one will be without care.......you should get some help with your issues.......

What is ending....the government take over of healthcare so that we will not have 320 million people in a VA quality healthcare system that allows veterans to die on fake waiting lists...

Confusing fundamentally market based system like ACA with single payer system like VA is quite ignorant of you.

wrong.....the ACA is not market based in any way shape or form....forcing people to go into it is not market based......the goal of the ACA was to destroy the private insurance industry by driving up cost and reducing quality.......then they would push for single payer, VA style healthcare..........try to keep up.

If the ACA forces people to buy insurance, why did millions choose not to?

 

[AntonToo]

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan

"Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President Donald Trump, said Sunday that no one will lose their health insurance during the transition from the Affordable Care Act to a new health care law Republicans aim to put in place. “For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during his transition time,” Conway told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

So they admit that people are relying on coverage obtained as a result of the ACA, they admit that people are benefiting from it, and they concede they can't simply repeal the ACA as they promised.

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan - CBS News

You see, what they're really going to do is keep Obamacare, while making some supposed 'improvements', and call it repeal and replace,

and in the process, they'll end up effectively claiming credit for the 'new' Obamacare.

Wow....the stupid is strong with you today.....she didn't say anything that you stated in your title.......she is specifically saying they are going to repeal obamacare and replace it and during that time no one will be without care.......you should get some help with your issues.......

What is ending....the government take over of healthcare so that we will not have 320 million people in a VA quality healthcare system that allows veterans to die on fake waiting lists...

Confusing fundamentally market based system like ACA with single payer system like VA is quite ignorant of you.

wrong.....the ACA is not market based in any way shape or form....forcing people to go into it is not market based......the goal of the ACA was to destroy the private insurance industry by driving up cost and reducing quality.......then they would push for single payer, VA style healthcare..........try to keep up.

What the fuck are you smoking?

A system in which most of healthcare is delivered by private doctors and hospitals who are paid by private insurance companies is "not market based in any way shape or form"?? You must be high.

 

[2aguy]

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan

"Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President Donald Trump, said Sunday that no one will lose their health insurance during the transition from the Affordable Care Act to a new health care law Republicans aim to put in place. “For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during his transition time,” Conway told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

So they admit that people are relying on coverage obtained as a result of the ACA, they admit that people are benefiting from it, and they concede they can't simply repeal the ACA as they promised.

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan - CBS News

You see, what they're really going to do is keep Obamacare, while making some supposed 'improvements', and call it repeal and replace,

and in the process, they'll end up effectively claiming credit for the 'new' Obamacare.

Wow....the stupid is strong with you today.....she didn't say anything that you stated in your title.......she is specifically saying they are going to repeal obamacare and replace it and during that time no one will be without care.......you should get some help with your issues.......

What is ending....the government take over of healthcare so that we will not have 320 million people in a VA quality healthcare system that allows veterans to die on fake waiting lists...

So how do they plan to insure the millions who are now on subsidized insurance, or on expanded Medicare, or have pre-existing conditions, or are on their parents' plan, or now have insurance without lifetime limits?

How do they plan to preserve ALL of that in some way that won't simply be replacing Obamacare with Obamacare 2.0?

The Republicans have a plan.....and it will cover those people......the part you brain can't comprehend....is mandating that people by the most expensive, unnecessary plans possible in order to wreck private healthcare......competition is how you drive costs down and improve access and quality.....allowing bureaucrats in washington to create insurance plans destroys healthcare...

 

[NYcarbineer]

Speculative. Fact remains that IRS can still withhold a tax for not having insurance.

If everything is left as is and there is no penalty people will simply not get instance until they need it, making providing insurance a losing proposition and unraveling whole individual market and crashing our healthcare system.

I don't think you understand....or maybe you do.

The ACA requires that people buy insurance coverage they don't want or they don't need. It also requires employers to pay for it. Many employers would rather pay a fine than pay for insurance for their employees. Millions will lose their current coverage and have to join an exchange and sign up for insurance that is too expensive and has higher than normal deductibles, rendering their coverage useless. Some companies, just to avoid paying a penalty (tax), will reduce their employees' hours to get below the minimum required to qualify for mandates reducing their incomes. Good luck taking that to court too.

I don't think you understand, mandate is in the law because a system that provides access to healthcare to all Americans (Republicans and Trump are still promising to remain) DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT IT.

Obama didn't like the idea of mandate, but he had to accept it because the alternative of insurance-only-when-you-want-it cannot work.

No person in this world is without risk of serious injury or expensive illness. Correspondingly, no person in this world should be without insurance. Republicans used to call insurance mandate a matter of taking responsibility for the financial risk your body poses to society...times have changed.

Fortunately this is a free society and being forced to buy any product is not within the powers of the federal government. They can tax us, but they cannot force us to buy insurance, which is not innumerable in the US Constitution.

You are wrong. The mandate never forces you to buy insurance.

1. Yes, the federal government can tax you.
2. The federal government can also give you a specific, targeted tax credit or reduction that you can only get if you do something specific -

have a kid, get a mortgage, BUY HEALTH INSURANCE, etc.

You say potatoooo....I say potaato.

I already said they can't, ....

So all your RW pals who say the ACA forces people to buy insurance are full of shit?

 

[AntonToo]

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan

"Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President Donald Trump, said Sunday that no one will lose their health insurance during the transition from the Affordable Care Act to a new health care law Republicans aim to put in place. “For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during his transition time,” Conway told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

So they admit that people are relying on coverage obtained as a result of the ACA, they admit that people are benefiting from it, and they concede they can't simply repeal the ACA as they promised.

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan - CBS News

You see, what they're really going to do is keep Obamacare, while making some supposed 'improvements', and call it repeal and replace,

and in the process, they'll end up effectively claiming credit for the 'new' Obamacare.

Wow....the stupid is strong with you today.....she didn't say anything that you stated in your title.......she is specifically saying they are going to repeal obamacare and replace it and during that time no one will be without care.......you should get some help with your issues.......

What is ending....the government take over of healthcare so that we will not have 320 million people in a VA quality healthcare system that allows veterans to die on fake waiting lists...

So how do they plan to insure the millions who are now on subsidized insurance, or on expanded Medicare, or have pre-existing conditions, or are on their parents' plan, or now have insurance without lifetime limits?

How do they plan to preserve ALL of that in some way that won't simply be replacing Obamacare with Obamacare 2.0?

The Republicans have a plan.....and it will cover those people

What plan is that specifically? Are you just saying this out of faith or actual knowledge...that no one but you has?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan

"Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President Donald Trump, said Sunday that no one will lose their health insurance during the transition from the Affordable Care Act to a new health care law Republicans aim to put in place. “For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during his transition time,” Conway told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

So they admit that people are relying on coverage obtained as a result of the ACA, they admit that people are benefiting from it, and they concede they can't simply repeal the ACA as they promised.

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan - CBS News

You see, what they're really going to do is keep Obamacare, while making some supposed 'improvements', and call it repeal and replace,

and in the process, they'll end up effectively claiming credit for the 'new' Obamacare.

Wow....the stupid is strong with you today.....she didn't say anything that you stated in your title.......she is specifically saying they are going to repeal obamacare and replace it and during that time no one will be without care.......you should get some help with your issues.......

What is ending....the government take over of healthcare so that we will not have 320 million people in a VA quality healthcare system that allows veterans to die on fake waiting lists...

So how do they plan to insure the millions who are now on subsidized insurance, or on expanded Medicare, or have pre-existing conditions, or are on their parents' plan, or now have insurance without lifetime limits?

How do they plan to preserve ALL of that in some way that won't simply be replacing Obamacare with Obamacare 2.0?

The Republicans have a plan.....and it will cover those people......the part you brain can't comprehend....is mandating that people by the most expensive, unnecessary plans possible in order to wreck private healthcare......competition is how you drive costs down and improve access and quality.....allowing bureaucrats in washington to create insurance plans destroys healthcare...

So under the GOP plan, who will be paying to cover the people who can't afford it?

 

[2aguy]

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan

"Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President Donald Trump, said Sunday that no one will lose their health insurance during the transition from the Affordable Care Act to a new health care law Republicans aim to put in place. “For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during his transition time,” Conway told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

So they admit that people are relying on coverage obtained as a result of the ACA, they admit that people are benefiting from it, and they concede they can't simply repeal the ACA as they promised.

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan - CBS News

You see, what they're really going to do is keep Obamacare, while making some supposed 'improvements', and call it repeal and replace,

and in the process, they'll end up effectively claiming credit for the 'new' Obamacare.

Wow....the stupid is strong with you today.....she didn't say anything that you stated in your title.......she is specifically saying they are going to repeal obamacare and replace it and during that time no one will be without care.......you should get some help with your issues.......

What is ending....the government take over of healthcare so that we will not have 320 million people in a VA quality healthcare system that allows veterans to die on fake waiting lists...

Confusing fundamentally market based system like ACA with single payer system like VA is quite ignorant of you.

wrong.....the ACA is not market based in any way shape or form....forcing people to go into it is not market based......the goal of the ACA was to destroy the private insurance industry by driving up cost and reducing quality.......then they would push for single payer, VA style healthcare..........try to keep up.

If the ACA forces people to buy insurance, why did millions choose not to?

Because the full effect of obama care didn't kick in until this year...so they could get past the election..........and the set up to destroy the system was simple...you make the fine for not being on an insurance plan less than the actual private plans......then, you mandate that companies either provide healthcare, which is expensive, or pay a small fine per employee.....which kicks millions of people off of their company plans once obamacare fully kicked in.....

You can sign up for obamacare no matter what...so why pay for insurance until you get sick, when you just get covered...which also destroys private healthcare.....

 

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Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan

"Kellyanne Conway, senior adviser to President Donald Trump, said Sunday that no one will lose their health insurance during the transition from the Affordable Care Act to a new health care law Republicans aim to put in place. “For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during his transition time,” Conway told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

So they admit that people are relying on coverage obtained as a result of the ACA, they admit that people are benefiting from it, and they concede they can't simply repeal the ACA as they promised.

Top Trump aide: 20M on Obamacare "will not be without coverage" in transition to new plan - CBS News

You see, what they're really going to do is keep Obamacare, while making some supposed 'improvements', and call it repeal and replace,

and in the process, they'll end up effectively claiming credit for the 'new' Obamacare.

Wow....the stupid is strong with you today.....she didn't say anything that you stated in your title.......she is specifically saying they are going to repeal obamacare and replace it and during that time no one will be without care.......you should get some help with your issues.......

What is ending....the government take over of healthcare so that we will not have 320 million people in a VA quality healthcare system that allows veterans to die on fake waiting lists...

So how do they plan to insure the millions who are now on subsidized insurance, or on expanded Medicare, or have pre-existing conditions, or are on their parents' plan, or now have insurance without lifetime limits?

How do they plan to preserve ALL of that in some way that won't simply be replacing Obamacare with Obamacare 2.0?

The Republicans have a plan.....and it will cover those people

What plan is that specifically? Are you just saying this out of faith or actual knowledge...that no one but you has?

The Empower Patients first act is the one Tom Price is going to lead the way on........it covers everything you guys are bitching about...