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[TNHarley]

You are a little confused. Lincoln favored not letting any NEW states have slavery. He hoped the institution would wither like it did in the rest of the world. The fact that Lincoln was able to win the electoral college without a single slave state voting for him is what panicked the South, not whatever Lincoln actually proposed.

But for the South, they had an irrational fear that once the slaves were freed, they would seek revenge on their white masters, just like they did in Haiti.

When that didn't happen, and the North lost interest in Reconstruction, then people realized they looked pretty fucking silly trying to destroy the union so a few rich white people could own slaves.

That's when you started hearing shit over economic reasons and state's rights and other garbage when it was about... slavery.

Nope. I think I will consider what he actually offered them, and what he said. You know, ACTUAL history.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

No we didnt. We fought over the economy. Saying we fought over slavery is lazy and ignorant.

In a way that is true but i think the real cause of the civil war was lincoln's refusal to let the south secede even though america was founded on secession.!!!

 

[StatesRightsForever]

If Lincoln had his way, there wouldn't have been a war at all, but 11 Southern States decided that breaking up the Union was a good idea merely because Lincoln was an abolitionist who wanted to limit the expansion of slavery.

Lincoln hated the abolitionists.

Which again, is irrelevant, the South started the war, not the North.

The was did not start with the battle at fort sumter. The north was trespassing at sumter and that started the war.

He was an active duty officer at the time. That he decided to turn traitor was on him.

Lee was a slave owner when lincoln asked him to lead the union forces. That is the issue.

It wasn't about "Tariffs", it was about slavery. The founding declarations of secession all SPECIFICALLY cite the continuation of slavery as their reasoning.

The south seceded over slavery but that's not what the war was about. Lincoln wanted to preserve the union. That's why he started the war.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope. I think I will consider what he actually offered them, and what he said. You know, ACTUAL history.

Yes, Lincoln was willing to be quite reasonable, but the South couldn't stand the idea that they no longer held sway in the country. I

It was the election of Lincoln without a single Southern vote that was the problem.


Lincoln was able to win without a single southern state. Even with DE and MD supporting Breckenridge, he was still able to win. The abolitionists already won, it was just whether or not they were going to fight or accept an end to slavery... and they chose badly.

Lincoln hated the abolitionists.

Where the fuck do you learn this stuff?

The was did not start with the battle at fort sumter. The north was trespassing at sumter and that started the war.

Sumter was a Federal Facility.

Lee was a slave owner when lincoln asked him to lead the union forces. That is the issue.

No, it's really not the issue at all. McClellen owned slaves as well. Grant's wife even owned a slave or two.

The south seceded over slavery but that's not what the war was about. Lincoln wanted to preserve the union. That's why he started the war.

Except he didn't start the war, the Southern States did when they started seceding, some of whom did so before Lincoln was even sworn in.