Karmelo Anthony Will Be Allowed to Graduate from High School !!!!

[TNHarley]

You are a little confused. Lincoln favored not letting any NEW states have slavery. He hoped the institution would wither like it did in the rest of the world. The fact that Lincoln was able to win the electoral college without a single slave state voting for him is what panicked the South, not whatever Lincoln actually proposed.

But for the South, they had an irrational fear that once the slaves were freed, they would seek revenge on their white masters, just like they did in Haiti.

When that didn't happen, and the North lost interest in Reconstruction, then people realized they looked pretty ******* silly trying to destroy the union so a few rich white people could own slaves.

That's when you started hearing shit over economic reasons and state's rights and other garbage when it was about... slavery.

Nope. I think I will consider what he actually offered them, and what he said. You know, ACTUAL history.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

No we didnt. We fought over the economy. Saying we fought over slavery is lazy and ignorant.

In a way that is true but i think the real cause of the civil war was lincoln's refusal to let the south secede even though america was founded on secession.!!!

 

[StatesRightsForever]

If Lincoln had his way, there wouldn't have been a war at all, but 11 Southern States decided that breaking up the Union was a good idea merely because Lincoln was an abolitionist who wanted to limit the expansion of slavery.

Lincoln hated the abolitionists.

Which again, is irrelevant, the South started the war, not the North.

The was did not start with the battle at fort sumter. The north was trespassing at sumter and that started the war.

He was an active duty officer at the time. That he decided to turn traitor was on him.

Lee was a slave owner when lincoln asked him to lead the union forces. That is the issue.

It wasn't about "Tariffs", it was about slavery. The founding declarations of secession all SPECIFICALLY cite the continuation of slavery as their reasoning.

The south seceded over slavery but that's not what the war was about. Lincoln wanted to preserve the union. That's why he started the war.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope. I think I will consider what he actually offered them, and what he said. You know, ACTUAL history.

Yes, Lincoln was willing to be quite reasonable, but the South couldn't stand the idea that they no longer held sway in the country. I

It was the election of Lincoln without a single Southern vote that was the problem.


Lincoln was able to win without a single southern state. Even with DE and MD supporting Breckenridge, he was still able to win. The abolitionists already won, it was just whether or not they were going to fight or accept an end to slavery... and they chose badly.

Lincoln hated the abolitionists.

Where the **** do you learn this stuff?

The was did not start with the battle at fort sumter. The north was trespassing at sumter and that started the war.

Sumter was a Federal Facility.

Lee was a slave owner when lincoln asked him to lead the union forces. That is the issue.

No, it's really not the issue at all. McClellen owned slaves as well. Grant's wife even owned a slave or two.

The south seceded over slavery but that's not what the war was about. Lincoln wanted to preserve the union. That's why he started the war.

Except he didn't start the war, the Southern States did when they started seceding, some of whom did so before Lincoln was even sworn in.

 

[TNHarley]

In a way that is true but i think the real cause of the civil war was lincoln's refusal to let the south secede even though america was founded on secession.!!!

Yep. He didnt want to lose the money from the South.

 

[JoeB131]

Yep. He didnt want to lose the money from the South.

Well, that and secession is a terrible idea, even less so when it was done for a truly evil reason (preserving an institution that the rest of the world had rejected.)

If the Civil War was about Tariffs, the British and French would have intervened to prop up the Confederacy. But since it was about slavery, they had the good sense not to.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

No, it's really not the issue at all. McClellen owned slaves as well. Grant's wife even owned a slave or two.

Indeed. Lots of Union generals owned slaves. So how can you say the war was about freeing the slaves??

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Yep. He didnt want to lose the money from the South.

Yes - tariffs were a very big issue back then and the south said they paid most of the tariffs and the money was then spent in the north!

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Well, that and secession is a terrible idea,

America was founded on secession, you moron. Nothing wrong with secession. In the 1950-80 era most african nations seceded from the foreign countries that controlled them. Around 1990 all the states in the USSR seceded and became independent countries.

 

[Unkotare]

Lincoln hated the abolitionists.

The was did not start with the battle at fort sumter. The north was trespassing at sumter and that started the war.

Lee was a slave owner when lincoln asked him to lead the union forces. That is the issue.

The south seceded over slavery but that's not what the war was about. Lincoln wanted to preserve the union. That's why he started the war.

What a load of shit.

 

[Unkotare]

And that's why latin america is a sewer. Diversity is a horrible idea. Mixing races, languages, and cultures always ends in disaster.

In America all that resulted in the richest, most powerful, greatest nation in the history of the world.

 

[JoeB131]

Indeed. Lots of Union generals owned slaves. So how can you say the war was about freeing the slaves??

Because that's why the South Went to war, dummy. They went to war because they realized that Free States had enough electors to take the presidency and when enough new states entered the union as free states, they wouldn't have much influence in the Senate, either.

AFTER the war, when they realized how stupid they looked, that's when you had them all talking about "tariffs" and "Economic issues".

But, um, no, it was always about slavery.

es - tariffs were a very big issue back then and the south said they paid most of the tariffs and the money was then spent in the north!

Nope.

The Tariff that everyone talks about, the Morrill Tariff, didn't take effect until AFTER the Southern States started seceeding.

The Hoax About a Tariff Causing the Civil War

The Morrill Tariff, a generally forgotten law, is said by some to be the real reason for the Civil War.

www.thoughtco.com

It has sometimes been alleged that Lincoln was responsible for the Morill Tariff. That idea does not stand up to scrutiny.


The idea of a new protectionist tariff did come up during the election campaign of 1860, and Abraham Lincoln, as the Republican candidate, did support the idea of a new tariff. The tariff was an important issue in some states, most notably Pennsylvania, where it was seen as beneficial to factory workers in various industries. But the tariff was not a major issue during the election, which was, naturally, dominated by the big issue of the time, enslavement.


The tariff's popularity in Pennsylvania helped influence the decision of President Buchanan, a native of Pennsylvania, to sign the bill into law. Though he was often accused of being a "doughface," a northerner who often supported policies that favored the South, Buchanan sided with his home state's interests in supporting the Morrill Tariff.


Furthermore, Lincoln did not even hold public office when the Morrill Tariff was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Buchanan. It is true that the law went into effect early in Lincoln's term, but any claims that Lincoln created the law to penalize the South would not be logical.

America was founded on secession, you moron. Nothing wrong with secession. In the 1950-80 era most african nations seceded from the foreign countries that controlled them. Around 1990 all the states in the USSR seceded and became independent countries.

The US didn't secede from the UK over slavery.
The USSR didn't break up over slavery.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Because that's why the South Went to war, dummy. They went to war because they realized that Free States had enough electors to take the presidency and when enough new states entered the union as free states, they wouldn't have much influence in the Senate, either.

so? Sounds like a good reason to secede. They realized they would soon have no control over their region.

 

[Papageorgio]

This monster will get off with community service just because he's black.!! Black on white murders are already an epidemic and it will get worse since there are no consequences.

Karmelo Anthony Will Be Allowed to Graduate from High School While on Bail for Murder of Austin Metcalf | The Gateway Pundit | by Cassandra MacDonald

Karmelo Anthony will be allowed to graduate from high school while out on bail for the murder of 17-year-old Austin Metcalf in Texas on April 2.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

He is out on bail, until the end of a trial, he is innocent until proven guilty. I dislike the idea but we have to support our Constitution for everyone.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Just more lies being spread by racist trash.

Frisco teen Karmelo Anthony accused in fatal stabbing set to graduate from high school

Frisco teen Karmelo Anthony to graduate after agreement with district amid ongoing murder case.

www.nbcdfw.com

Show one person here using the N-word or saying black are inferior to whites

 

[Lisa558]

He is out on bail, until the end of a trial, he is innocent until proven guilty. I dislike the idea but we have to support our Constitution for everyone.

But they didn’t allow Kyle Rittenhouse out on bail because they kept it at $2 million.

 

[Papageorgio]

But they didn’t allow Kyle Rittenhouse out on bail because they kept it at $2 million.

That is a court issue, the fact is, he made bail and is out and he is not attending the graduation, he is not allowed at any ceremonies, parties, nothing, he just is going to be given his diploma.

 

[Lisa558]

That is a court issue, the fact is, he made bail and is out and he is not attending the graduation, he is not allowed at any ceremonies, parties, nothing, he just is going to be given his diploma.

But it is scary that such a violent, savage murderer gets out on bail, period.

 

[Papageorgio]

But it is scary that such a violent, savage murderer gets out on bail, period.

That is our justice system and we all have the presumption of innocence under our Constitution, that is our standard which is much better than other countries.

 

[JoeB131]

so? Sounds like a good reason to secede. They realized they would soon have no control over their region.

Let me get this straight. Knowing that eventually, you won't be allowed to own other human beings is a good reason to secede?

Really? This is what you are going with?