Kari Lake election challenge "fizzles" at second day of trial

[kaz]

Why dont you post the Communist Manifesto ? Most folk will not be familiar with it.

Thanks for the suggestion, but if they won't Google it, like bodecea , they aren't going to read it because I post it

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Thanks for the suggestion, but if they won't Google it, like bodecea , they aren't going to read it because I post it

I would.

 

[meaner gene]

Let's play devils advocate for a second. Pretend that they did absolutely zero signature verification. Every signature was accepted without checking it.

Wouldn't that invalidate the ENTIRE election, and not just that for governor?

Would the court send pink slips to every elected official elected in 2020?

 

[kaz]

I would.

I believe you, you probably already did

 

[WorldWatcher]

Let's play devils advocate for a second. Pretend that they did absolutely zero signature verification. Every signature was accepted without checking it.

Wouldn't that invalidate the ENTIRE election, and not just that for governor?

Would the court send pink slips to every elected official elected in 2020?

Yes

WW

 

[westwall]

Dude. every. single. one. of your posts can be ignored. They're all bullshit. You're nothing but a propaganda drone.

Pot, meet kettle

 

[meaner gene]

Yes

WW

If the courts pink slipped everybody elected in 2020, how would government function. Legally it would bring the legislature to a complete halt. Without a legislature, they can't pass a law to allow them to hold a special election.

 

[WorldWatcher]

If the courts pink slipped everybody elected in 2020, how would government function. Legally it would bring the legislature to a complete halt. Without a legislature, they can't pass a law to allow them to hold a special election.

I didn't' say it wouldn't cause chaos.

But from a logic standpoint. If the ballots are invalidated due to the governor race, then all subordinate races on the same ballot would also be thrown out.

The ballot is a single entity. It's either valid or not. You can't say (and be logically consistent) that this race is good and this race is bad. You can't pick and choose, it's a binary status.

WW

 

[dudmuck]

• Signature verification expert: “They did 46, 854 determinations. The overall passing percentage: 97.23% At a time with less than 6 seconds. Of those 46,000 instances. 37, 588 were done at that rate of less than 6 seconds. The approval percentage was 99.38%”
• Whistleblower testifies normal level 1 signature verifiers were sent home early and the signature review function was then performed at the County Recorder’s Office. With no observers.
• Whistleblower testifies on Level 2 signature verifiers repeatedly funneling back rejected signatures to level one. “You come across very unique names. Very unique signatures. Very unique characteristics. All the sudden you see it the second time. That’s when you realize that…

BOMBSHELL Testimony at Kari Lake Election Trial!!! - Whatfinger Daily

Today’s Super-Thread on the stolen Arizona election and voter fraud used by the Deep State Marxists 💣 Huge🐚@KariLake Expert Signature Verification witness finds that Maricopa County verifiers "compared" roughly 70,000 signatures in less than 2 seconds. pic.twitter.com/c0Gjjy2EgP — Kari Lake War...

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Their own data proves the signature verification was a joke. That is a fact that cannot be ignored. If it is Lake will appeal to a higher court again.

Under cross examination, Craig Morgan, an attorney representing the county, asked Speckin — who never actually examined any of the ballots or the comparison signatures — whether he could say that any ballots with mismatched signatures were counted.

He conceded he could not.

case closed.

 

[meaner gene]

I didn't' say it wouldn't cause chaos.

But from a logic standpoint. If the ballots are invalidated due to the governor race, then all subordinate races on the same ballot would also be thrown out.

The ballot is a single entity. It's either valid or not. You can't say (and be logically consistent) that this race is good and this race is bad. You can't pick and choose, it's a binary status.

WW

That's exactly the problem. That would invalidate the election of the legislative representatives. Who by state constitution and law, are required to pass any budget or law.

The functionality of the state would come to a halt at the end of the fiscal year.

 

[WorldWatcher]

That's exactly the problem. That would invalidate the election of the legislative representatives. Who by state constitution and law, are required to pass any budget or law.

The functionality of the state would come to a halt at the end of the fiscal year.

Correct.

But logically the ballot is either valid or not, good or bad, true or false.

There is no picking and choosing which race **ON** a ballot are invalid while other races on the same ballot are valid. Logically you can't say "well we are going to throw out the governors race, but wink, wink keep the other elections as valid."

WW

 

[bodecea]

God you're stupid, I'm not even supporting Trump. Racists, sheesh. Of course you can't name these things I agree with Trump supporters on because you just make your shit up and lie.

Now crickets is the sound of you listing anything you disagree with Democrats on

"I'm not even supporting trump".....

 

[bodecea]

Troll time? Maybe.

 

[meaner gene]

Correct.

But logically the ballot is either valid or not, good or bad, true or false.

There is no picking and choosing which race **ON** a ballot are invalid while other races on the same ballot are valid. Logically you can't say "well we are going to throw out the governors race, but wink, wink keep the other elections as valid."

WW

There is also the precept in law that there is no right where there is no remedy.

The courts do not have the power to invalidate an entire election, or to order a new one.

 

[kaz]

"I'm not even supporting trump".....

That's right, I'm a DeSantis supporter. I love living in Florida.

Democrats say: I'm too stupid to come up with my own talking points, so if you don't believe what Democrats told me to think, I'll just fit you in my bigoted, racist views anyway

It's as deep as it goes with you idiots

 

[kaz]

There is also the precept in law that there is no right where there is no remedy.

The courts do not have the power to invalidate an entire election.

The courts are going so far beyond their Constitutional powers now it's laughable. The founders considered the judiciary the weakest branch of government, so they just took the power when they realized there was no process to stop them

 

[bodecea]

Thanks for the suggestion, but if they won't Google it, like bodecea , they aren't going to read it because I post it

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Totalitarianism is one extreme. What is the opposite extreme?

Can you really not understand this? The opposite of modern “totalitarianism” is precisely a representative political system combined with “division of power” in government providing “rule of law” and guarantees of individual rights.

This “free” form of social organization has historically evolved and been based on private property and capitalism, where constitutional or traditional rights, legal rights and eventually parliaments were demanded by new property owning classes in society. They gradually or via revolution replaced monarchies or aristocracies and feudal relations. Today, however, “freedom” must of necessity be preserved on the basis of modern mixed or largely corporation-based economy.

“Totalitarianism” is sometimes thought of primarily as a condition of enforced central control of information and ideology, in which case the opposite requires emphasizing freedom of conscience, a “free press” and “free speech” guarantees in society.

Left-wing or right-wing one-man or one-party “dictatorships,” even illiberal authoritarian states can — but not necessarily always will — take on “totalitarian” characteristics. This depends largely on whether they destroy the free expression of all alternative opinions, political organizations and the possibility of peacefully and regularly changing the single political power center.

Thus Stalin was a “totalitarian” “communist” and Hitler a “totalitarian” “fascist”. Both also had personality cults built around them — even though the ideology and the economic systems and the history and original culture of those two totalitarian societies were almost entirely different.

Hope that helps …

 

[d0gbreath]

Totalitarianism is one extreme.

What is the opposite extreme.

Still waiting.

Revolution.

 

[bodecea]

Pot, meet kettle

White knighting now?