Kamala is VP. Where's your Tulsi?

First of all we all want public transportation, schools, libraries, museums, fie fighting, police, etc.
Private schools are more efficient academically wise. The rest of it would be more efficient, too.
We also all tend to like public utilities.
All utilities should be private.
We also recognize the value of public regulation and preservation of things like banks, through FDIC
I dont recognize it
We agree Social Security, Medicare, etc., are all necessary.
No we do not.
But you made an excellent case. Just like pk :thup:
:lol:
 
No right-winger I know of "loved" Tulsi. She was given credit for being one of the few Democrats who had a working brain, but the general consensus was that she's still a libtard and a socialist.

We are all and have long been Socialists. You are simply not honest about it.
Speak for yourself, my personal philosophy has nothing to do with socialism. Doesn’t mean I found the works of Marx, et al repulsive just that I don’t find any substantial areas where I agree with his ideas.

This country doesn't run like it does without Socialism. Of course you don't see the government funding of business as socialism but something that they simply have to do.

Helping poor people, bad.

Giving a business millions in taxpayers dollars, good.

Tell me where in Capitalism do we find this chapter?
The way this country is currently run has nothing to do with my belief system, nor does it make me a socialist. You appear to be assuming that I’m okay with the current system, BAD assumption on your part.

You are. I hear from many "I wish............", no you don't or you wouldn't be taking part in all the things that Socialist programs have provided and would be off somewhere taking care of everything for yourself.
Seriously, your argument is that because I was born in the United States and live here that makes me a socialist? You need to check your premise pal, because it’s LUDICROUS.

If you want to consider yourself a socialist, more power to you, but don’t think for a minute that your belief system and mine have anything in common except geography and imaginary lines on a map.

You would not live in a country that wasn't built upon a countless number of socialist programs.
Right, it’s more like I’m trapped in a cage that was built by people with no sense of right and wrong and I just do what I got to do to survive while rendering unto Caesar so he’ll leave me the hell alone.

BTW your premise is still LUDICROUS and discounts anybody that doesn’t share your beliefs simply because they happen to exist within the same society as you do. It’s like saying every German was a NAZI because they happened to live in Deutschland in the 1930’s, which of course is patently FALSE.
 
Its also silly to bring up libraries and fire depts when discussing socialism. Nobody really gives a shit about that.
When people speak against "socialism" it is when the federal govt takes over things in the private sector. Like medicine. Welfare. funding private businesses. etc. Shit that actually matters.
Dont be so disingenuous, people. Geezus
 
No right-winger I know of "loved" Tulsi. She was given credit for being one of the few Democrats who had a working brain, but the general consensus was that she's still a libtard and a socialist.

We are all and have long been Socialists. You are simply not honest about it.
Speak for yourself, my personal philosophy has nothing to do with socialism. Doesn’t mean I found the works of Marx, et al repulsive just that I don’t find any substantial areas where I agree with his ideas.

This country doesn't run like it does without Socialism. Of course you don't see the government funding of business as socialism but something that they simply have to do.

Helping poor people, bad.

Giving a business millions in taxpayers dollars, good.

Tell me where in Capitalism do we find this chapter?
The way this country is currently run has nothing to do with my belief system, nor does it make me a socialist. You appear to be assuming that I’m okay with the current system, BAD assumption on your part.

You are. I hear from many "I wish............", no you don't or you wouldn't be taking part in all the things that Socialist programs have provided and would be off somewhere taking care of everything for yourself.
Seriously, your argument is that because I was born in the United States and live here that makes me a socialist? You need to check your premise pal, because it’s LUDICROUS.

If you want to consider yourself a socialist, more power to you, but don’t think for a minute that your belief system and mine have anything in common except geography and imaginary lines on a map.

You would not live in a country that wasn't built upon a countless number of socialist programs.
You live in a country where cops shoot unarmed people. I guess since you live in that country, you support cops killing unarmed people.
Of course, I know you dont. Im just showing you how stupid you sound.

And I admit that I do not want to live in that kind of country and I support things to change that. You are not going to support going back to the 19th Century.
 
No right-winger I know of "loved" Tulsi. She was given credit for being one of the few Democrats who had a working brain, but the general consensus was that she's still a libtard and a socialist.

We are all and have long been Socialists. You are simply not honest about it.
Speak for yourself, my personal philosophy has nothing to do with socialism. Doesn’t mean I found the works of Marx, et al repulsive just that I don’t find any substantial areas where I agree with his ideas.

This country doesn't run like it does without Socialism. Of course you don't see the government funding of business as socialism but something that they simply have to do.

Helping poor people, bad.

Giving a business millions in taxpayers dollars, good.

Tell me where in Capitalism do we find this chapter?
The way this country is currently run has nothing to do with my belief system, nor does it make me a socialist. You appear to be assuming that I’m okay with the current system, BAD assumption on your part.

You are. I hear from many "I wish............", no you don't or you wouldn't be taking part in all the things that Socialist programs have provided and would be off somewhere taking care of everything for yourself.
Seriously, your argument is that because I was born in the United States and live here that makes me a socialist? You need to check your premise pal, because it’s LUDICROUS.

If you want to consider yourself a socialist, more power to you, but don’t think for a minute that your belief system and mine have anything in common except geography and imaginary lines on a map.

You would not live in a country that wasn't built upon a countless number of socialist programs.
Right, it’s more like I’m trapped in a cage that was built by people with no sense of right and wrong and I just do what I got to do to survive while rendering unto Caesar so he’ll leave me the hell alone.

BTW your premise is still LUDICROUS and discounts anybody that doesn’t share your beliefs simply because they happen to exist within the same society as you do. It’s like saying every German was a NAZI because they happened to live in Deutschland in the 1930’s, which of course is patently FALSE.

Go. There are places you can go to be left alone. Ted K did it for years.
 
No right-winger I know of "loved" Tulsi. She was given credit for being one of the few Democrats who had a working brain, but the general consensus was that she's still a libtard and a socialist.

We are all and have long been Socialists. You are simply not honest about it.
Speak for yourself, my personal philosophy has nothing to do with socialism. Doesn’t mean I found the works of Marx, et al repulsive just that I don’t find any substantial areas where I agree with his ideas.

This country doesn't run like it does without Socialism. Of course you don't see the government funding of business as socialism but something that they simply have to do.

Helping poor people, bad.

Giving a business millions in taxpayers dollars, good.

Tell me where in Capitalism do we find this chapter?
The way this country is currently run has nothing to do with my belief system, nor does it make me a socialist. You appear to be assuming that I’m okay with the current system, BAD assumption on your part.

You are. I hear from many "I wish............", no you don't or you wouldn't be taking part in all the things that Socialist programs have provided and would be off somewhere taking care of everything for yourself.
Seriously, your argument is that because I was born in the United States and live here that makes me a socialist? You need to check your premise pal, because it’s LUDICROUS.

If you want to consider yourself a socialist, more power to you, but don’t think for a minute that your belief system and mine have anything in common except geography and imaginary lines on a map.

You would not live in a country that wasn't built upon a countless number of socialist programs.
You live in a country where cops shoot unarmed people. I guess since you live in that country, you support cops killing unarmed people.
Of course, I know you dont. Im just showing you how stupid you sound.

And I admit that I do not want to live in that kind of country and I support things to change that. You are not going to support going back to the 19th Century.
But you live here. It doesnt matter what you believe. Remember?
Using your own logic, you support police killing unarmed people.
Deal with it :)
 
No right-winger I know of "loved" Tulsi. She was given credit for being one of the few Democrats who had a working brain, but the general consensus was that she's still a libtard and a socialist.

We are all and have long been Socialists. You are simply not honest about it.
Speak for yourself, my personal philosophy has nothing to do with socialism. Doesn’t mean I found the works of Marx, et al repulsive just that I don’t find any substantial areas where I agree with his ideas.

This country doesn't run like it does without Socialism. Of course you don't see the government funding of business as socialism but something that they simply have to do.

Helping poor people, bad.

Giving a business millions in taxpayers dollars, good.

Tell me where in Capitalism do we find this chapter?
The way this country is currently run has nothing to do with my belief system, nor does it make me a socialist. You appear to be assuming that I’m okay with the current system, BAD assumption on your part.

You are. I hear from many "I wish............", no you don't or you wouldn't be taking part in all the things that Socialist programs have provided and would be off somewhere taking care of everything for yourself.
Seriously, your argument is that because I was born in the United States and live here that makes me a socialist? You need to check your premise pal, because it’s LUDICROUS.

If you want to consider yourself a socialist, more power to you, but don’t think for a minute that your belief system and mine have anything in common except geography and imaginary lines on a map.

You would not live in a country that wasn't built upon a countless number of socialist programs.
You live in a country where cops shoot unarmed people. I guess since you live in that country, you support cops killing unarmed people.
Of course, I know you dont. Im just showing you how stupid you sound.

And I admit that I do not want to live in that kind of country and I support things to change that. You are not going to support going back to the 19th Century.
But you live here. It doesnt matter what you believe. Remember?
Using your own logic, you support police killing unarmed people.
Deal with it :)

What are you doing to go back to the 19th Century? Nothing. Not even things you can do.
 
No right-winger I know of "loved" Tulsi. She was given credit for being one of the few Democrats who had a working brain, but the general consensus was that she's still a libtard and a socialist.

We are all and have long been Socialists. You are simply not honest about it.
Speak for yourself, my personal philosophy has nothing to do with socialism. Doesn’t mean I found the works of Marx, et al repulsive just that I don’t find any substantial areas where I agree with his ideas.

This country doesn't run like it does without Socialism. Of course you don't see the government funding of business as socialism but something that they simply have to do.

Helping poor people, bad.

Giving a business millions in taxpayers dollars, good.

Tell me where in Capitalism do we find this chapter?
The way this country is currently run has nothing to do with my belief system, nor does it make me a socialist. You appear to be assuming that I’m okay with the current system, BAD assumption on your part.

You are. I hear from many "I wish............", no you don't or you wouldn't be taking part in all the things that Socialist programs have provided and would be off somewhere taking care of everything for yourself.
Seriously, your argument is that because I was born in the United States and live here that makes me a socialist? You need to check your premise pal, because it’s LUDICROUS.

If you want to consider yourself a socialist, more power to you, but don’t think for a minute that your belief system and mine have anything in common except geography and imaginary lines on a map.

You would not live in a country that wasn't built upon a countless number of socialist programs.
Right, it’s more like I’m trapped in a cage that was built by people with no sense of right and wrong and I just do what I got to do to survive while rendering unto Caesar so he’ll leave me the hell alone.

BTW your premise is still LUDICROUS and discounts anybody that doesn’t share your beliefs simply because they happen to exist within the same society as you do. It’s like saying every German was a NAZI because they happened to live in Deutschland in the 1930’s, which of course is patently FALSE.

Go. There are places you can go to be left alone. Ted K did it for years.
ROFLMAO! Are you now arguing that everybody that isn’t a socialist should leave their families, friends, and everything they’ve earned behind and become Ted Kazinsky? Is that your story now?

I’ll grant you one thing, of all the arguments in favor of socialism that I’ve run across, yours is truly the most far fetched and disconnected from reality that I’ve seen. Talk about INTOLERANCE of other peoples viewpoints and TRIBALISM! you take the cake, the Soviet apparatchiks had nothing on you.

:popcorn:
 
No right-winger I know of "loved" Tulsi. She was given credit for being one of the few Democrats who had a working brain, but the general consensus was that she's still a libtard and a socialist.

We are all and have long been Socialists. You are simply not honest about it.
Speak for yourself, my personal philosophy has nothing to do with socialism. Doesn’t mean I found the works of Marx, et al repulsive just that I don’t find any substantial areas where I agree with his ideas.

This country doesn't run like it does without Socialism. Of course you don't see the government funding of business as socialism but something that they simply have to do.

Helping poor people, bad.

Giving a business millions in taxpayers dollars, good.

Tell me where in Capitalism do we find this chapter?
The way this country is currently run has nothing to do with my belief system, nor does it make me a socialist. You appear to be assuming that I’m okay with the current system, BAD assumption on your part.

You are. I hear from many "I wish............", no you don't or you wouldn't be taking part in all the things that Socialist programs have provided and would be off somewhere taking care of everything for yourself.
Seriously, your argument is that because I was born in the United States and live here that makes me a socialist? You need to check your premise pal, because it’s LUDICROUS.

If you want to consider yourself a socialist, more power to you, but don’t think for a minute that your belief system and mine have anything in common except geography and imaginary lines on a map.

You would not live in a country that wasn't built upon a countless number of socialist programs.
You live in a country where cops shoot unarmed people. I guess since you live in that country, you support cops killing unarmed people.
Of course, I know you dont. Im just showing you how stupid you sound.

And I admit that I do not want to live in that kind of country and I support things to change that. You are not going to support going back to the 19th Century.
But you live here. It doesnt matter what you believe. Remember?
Using your own logic, you support police killing unarmed people.
Deal with it :)
You don’t get it TN, our presence is inconvenient to pknopps quest for unchecked power over everybody Else, thus in its view we must be exiled along with everybody Else that doesn’t agree with its views. Facism move over, there’s a new authoritarian sheriff in town. ;)
 
No right-winger I know of "loved" Tulsi. She was given credit for being one of the few Democrats who had a working brain, but the general consensus was that she's still a libtard and a socialist.

We are all and have long been Socialists. You are simply not honest about it.
Speak for yourself, my personal philosophy has nothing to do with socialism. Doesn’t mean I found the works of Marx, et al repulsive just that I don’t find any substantial areas where I agree with his ideas.

This country doesn't run like it does without Socialism. Of course you don't see the government funding of business as socialism but something that they simply have to do.

Helping poor people, bad.

Giving a business millions in taxpayers dollars, good.

Tell me where in Capitalism do we find this chapter?
The way this country is currently run has nothing to do with my belief system, nor does it make me a socialist. You appear to be assuming that I’m okay with the current system, BAD assumption on your part.

You are. I hear from many "I wish............", no you don't or you wouldn't be taking part in all the things that Socialist programs have provided and would be off somewhere taking care of everything for yourself.
Seriously, your argument is that because I was born in the United States and live here that makes me a socialist? You need to check your premise pal, because it’s LUDICROUS.

If you want to consider yourself a socialist, more power to you, but don’t think for a minute that your belief system and mine have anything in common except geography and imaginary lines on a map.

You would not live in a country that wasn't built upon a countless number of socialist programs.
Right, it’s more like I’m trapped in a cage that was built by people with no sense of right and wrong and I just do what I got to do to survive while rendering unto Caesar so he’ll leave me the hell alone.

BTW your premise is still LUDICROUS and discounts anybody that doesn’t share your beliefs simply because they happen to exist within the same society as you do. It’s like saying every German was a NAZI because they happened to live in Deutschland in the 1930’s, which of course is patently FALSE.

Go. There are places you can go to be left alone. Ted K did it for years.
ROFLMAO! Are you now arguing that everybody that isn’t a socialist should leave their families, friends, and everything they’ve earned behind and become Ted Kazinsky? Is that your story now?

I’ll grant you one thing, of all the arguments in favor of socialism that I’ve run across, yours is truly the most far fetched and disconnected from reality that I’ve seen. Talk about INTOLERANCE of other peoples viewpoints and TRIBALISM! you take the cake, the Soviet apparatchiks had nothing on you.

:popcorn:
 
No right-winger I know of "loved" Tulsi. She was given credit for being one of the few Democrats who had a working brain, but the general consensus was that she's still a libtard and a socialist.

We are all and have long been Socialists. You are simply not honest about it.
Speak for yourself, my personal philosophy has nothing to do with socialism. Doesn’t mean I found the works of Marx, et al repulsive just that I don’t find any substantial areas where I agree with his ideas.

This country doesn't run like it does without Socialism. Of course you don't see the government funding of business as socialism but something that they simply have to do.

Helping poor people, bad.

Giving a business millions in taxpayers dollars, good.

Tell me where in Capitalism do we find this chapter?
The way this country is currently run has nothing to do with my belief system, nor does it make me a socialist. You appear to be assuming that I’m okay with the current system, BAD assumption on your part.

You are. I hear from many "I wish............", no you don't or you wouldn't be taking part in all the things that Socialist programs have provided and would be off somewhere taking care of everything for yourself.
Seriously, your argument is that because I was born in the United States and live here that makes me a socialist? You need to check your premise pal, because it’s LUDICROUS.

If you want to consider yourself a socialist, more power to you, but don’t think for a minute that your belief system and mine have anything in common except geography and imaginary lines on a map.

You would not live in a country that wasn't built upon a countless number of socialist programs.
Right, it’s more like I’m trapped in a cage that was built by people with no sense of right and wrong and I just do what I got to do to survive while rendering unto Caesar so he’ll leave me the hell alone.

BTW your premise is still LUDICROUS and discounts anybody that doesn’t share your beliefs simply because they happen to exist within the same society as you do. It’s like saying every German was a NAZI because they happened to live in Deutschland in the 1930’s, which of course is patently FALSE.

Go. There are places you can go to be left alone. Ted K did it for years.
ROFLMAO! Are you now arguing that everybody that isn’t a socialist should leave their families, friends, and everything they’ve earned behind and become Ted Kazinsky? Is that your story now?

I’ll grant you one thing, of all the arguments in favor of socialism that I’ve run across, yours is truly the most far fetched and disconnected from reality that I’ve seen. Talk about INTOLERANCE of other peoples viewpoints and TRIBALISM! you take the cake, the Soviet apparatchiks had nothing on you.

:popcorn:

Far fetched? Maybe but no more so than yours.
 
No right-winger I know of "loved" Tulsi. She was given credit for being one of the few Democrats who had a working brain, but the general consensus was that she's still a libtard and a socialist.

We are all and have long been Socialists. You are simply not honest about it.
Speak for yourself, my personal philosophy has nothing to do with socialism. Doesn’t mean I found the works of Marx, et al repulsive just that I don’t find any substantial areas where I agree with his ideas.

This country doesn't run like it does without Socialism. Of course you don't see the government funding of business as socialism but something that they simply have to do.

Helping poor people, bad.

Giving a business millions in taxpayers dollars, good.

Tell me where in Capitalism do we find this chapter?
The way this country is currently run has nothing to do with my belief system, nor does it make me a socialist. You appear to be assuming that I’m okay with the current system, BAD assumption on your part.

You are. I hear from many "I wish............", no you don't or you wouldn't be taking part in all the things that Socialist programs have provided and would be off somewhere taking care of everything for yourself.
Seriously, your argument is that because I was born in the United States and live here that makes me a socialist? You need to check your premise pal, because it’s LUDICROUS.

If you want to consider yourself a socialist, more power to you, but don’t think for a minute that your belief system and mine have anything in common except geography and imaginary lines on a map.

You would not live in a country that wasn't built upon a countless number of socialist programs.
You live in a country where cops shoot unarmed people. I guess since you live in that country, you support cops killing unarmed people.
Of course, I know you dont. Im just showing you how stupid you sound.

And I admit that I do not want to live in that kind of country and I support things to change that. You are not going to support going back to the 19th Century.
But you live here. It doesnt matter what you believe. Remember?
Using your own logic, you support police killing unarmed people.
Deal with it :)
You don’t get it TN, our presence is inconvenient to pknopps quest for unchecked power over everybody Else, thus in its view we must be exiled along with everybody Else that doesn’t agree with its views. Facism move over, there’s a new authoritarian sheriff in town. ;)

Your presence affects me none.
 
No right-winger I know of "loved" Tulsi. She was given credit for being one of the few Democrats who had a working brain, but the general consensus was that she's still a libtard and a socialist.

We are all and have long been Socialists. You are simply not honest about it.
Explain how I am a socialist

I've done it many times including my post of a few minutes ago. You can claim you do not support any of that but you do.
I dont see where you explain how I am socialist.

You may claim you would be good living in the 19th century but you would not or you would be here posting.
If you cant explain how I am a socialist, please dont say I am. Thanks ;)

We have done this over and over.

Right. Over and over, and it's failed every damned time. The reason it's failed is because we haven't tried it here.

:laughing0301:
 
I remember when right wingers were pretending to love Tulsi Gabbard and pretending that she "owned" Kamala Harris in a debate. Her career, which essentially ended when she got 0% in the primaries, has believe it or not gotten even worse, now that her International idol Narendra Modi became the worst president in the world by allowing Indians to die left and right of covid.
This is a reminder that making right-wing nuts fall in love with you when you're a Democrat is the worst possible strategy.
Oh, and Kamala is vice president of the USA.
You candidate won and you are still unhappy. Amazing. Leftists are just miserable people.

Just a little more. As soon as they get all the Confederate statues pulled down, an end to systemic racism in America, pass the New Green Deal, get a bazzilion illegals signed up to vote, confiscate everybody's guns, take all of the rich people's money away from them, and make sure every household gets a unicorn that spews Skittles out of it's ass, they'll be happy.

They promised.

:laughing0301:
 
No right-winger I know of "loved" Tulsi. She was given credit for being one of the few Democrats who had a working brain, but the general consensus was that she's still a libtard and a socialist.

We are all and have long been Socialists. You are simply not honest about it.
Speak for yourself, my personal philosophy has nothing to do with socialism. Doesn’t mean I found the works of Marx, et al repulsive just that I don’t find any substantial areas where I agree with his ideas.

This country doesn't run like it does without Socialism. Of course you don't see the government funding of business as socialism but something that they simply have to do.

Helping poor people, bad.

Giving a business millions in taxpayers dollars, good.

Tell me where in Capitalism do we find this chapter?

That's idiotic. Do you not understand the concept of "corporate tax breaks"?

Allowing upper-income earners to keep more of their money is not "giving" them taxpayer's dollars. It's not "taxpayer's dollars" until it's collected by the IRS. Then it belongs to the government.

But that money is not doled out to upper-income earners. They just get to keep more of the wealth they themselves created. It's their money: Not yours, not the government's. They get those tax breaks because they generally create jobs for other people who pay revenue to the government.

Jesus Christ, man. For someone who supposedly knows so much about socialism, your grasp on basic math and economics really sucks.
 
First of all we all want public transportation, schools, libraries, museums, fie fighting, police, etc.
Private schools are more efficient academically wise. The rest of it would be more efficient, too.
We also all tend to like public utilities.
All utilities should be private.
We also recognize the value of public regulation and preservation of things like banks, through FDIC
I dont recognize it
We agree Social Security, Medicare, etc., are all necessary.
No we do not.
But you made an excellent case. Just like pk :thup:
:lol:

I disagree that public schools are not more efficient.
Anything private always costs more because instead of just hiring those people with needed skills, you also have to pay the extra profit to the private investors, that you do not have to pay if it is publicly financed.
Private schools only seem to get a better bang for their buck because they only accept the cream of the crop that have home advantages like encyclopedias, travel, tutors, etc.

This is true with everything.
It always costs less for people to pool their revenue publicly and to create the services they need, instead of paying extra to a private entrepreneur.

The only times private enterprise has some advantages is when people are not as far sighted as the innovative entrepreneur.
The private entrepreneur also can make decisions and change plans more quickly.
 
Its also silly to bring up libraries and fire depts when discussing socialism. Nobody really gives a shit about that.
When people speak against "socialism" it is when the federal govt takes over things in the private sector. Like medicine. Welfare. funding private businesses. etc. Shit that actually matters.
Dont be so disingenuous, people. Geezus

True, but why not take over private sector essential services like medicine, that private enterprise does so badly?
The doctor gets paid the same whether hired by a for profit medical corporation or by a government run health care group.
The health care quality is better if through the government heath care group because it is not skimming off profits and patients who are not profitable are not denied.
There is no comparison.
Everywhere else in the world they do public health care, and it is always better and costs half as much as we spend.
 

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