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YOU FUCKING HACK YOU ARE FINE WITH SANCTUARY CITIES WHEN IT COMES TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BUT WHEN IT COMES TO AMERICANS AND THEIR RIGHTS YOU OPPOSE THEMHence you obviously don’t understand the issue.agreed…hence the xiden doj is wrong here. They can’t force Missouri to enforce federal gun laws.Wrong."Sanctuary cities" have been instructing their police to ignore federal immigration law for years
The Constitution prohibits the Federal government from compelling states and local jurisdictions from enforcing Federal laws, including immigration laws.
Justice never said it could ‘force’ state and local jurisdictions to enforce Federal firearm laws, just the opposite.
Justice is simply stating a fact that has been settled, accepted, and beyond dispute since the founding of the Republic: Federal law is the supreme law of the land, state and local laws that conflict or interfere with Federal laws are invalid – such as this Second Amendment ‘sanctuary state’ nonsense, including the Missouri law that seeks to “penalize local police departments if their officers enforce federal gun laws.”
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LIARJust as there’s no such thing as Second Amendment ‘sanctuary’ states, there’s no such thing as ‘sanctuary cities.’Then why do we have sanctuary cities for illegal aliens if the Federal government is so damn powerful?
Whether it’s the enforcement of Federal immigration law or Federal firearm law, the Federal government cannot compel state and local jurisdictions to enforce those Federal laws.
State and local authorities are at liberty to assist in the enforcement of Federal laws if they elect to do so, but state and local jurisdictions cannot penalized local officials who volunteer to assist, which is at issue here.
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Hopefully you are right but the democrats may try to federalize law enforcement. They could stack the Supreme Court and change a lot of things if they get the chance.No one can ‘Federalize’ local law enforcement.
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It would be nice if conservatives would at least READ the US Constitution before they pass laws that won't be upheld upon a court challenge, thereby wasting everyone's time in the process. Instead, it would be nice if they spent their time actually working to get things done for the people. But I guess that's too much to ask..
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Justice Dept.: Missouri governor can't void federal gun laws
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department is warning Missouri officials that the state can’t ignore federal law, after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules.
In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S. Constitution's Supremacy Clause outweighs the measure that Gov. Mike Parson signed into law Saturday. The new rules penalize local police departments if their officers enforce federal gun laws.
Acting Assistant Attorney General Brian Boynton said the law threatens to disrupt the working relationship between federal and local authorities, they said in the letter, noting that Missouri receives federal grants and technical assistance.
“The public safety of the people of the United States and citizens of Missouri is paramount,” Boynton wrote in the letter.
President Joe Biden has made gun control laws a priority of his administration, and the House has passed two bills requiring background checks on firearms sales and an expanded review for gun purchases, though they face a tough road in the Senate. But states, including Missouri, have increasingly worked to loosen gun laws, including abandoning requirements that people get training and pass background checks to carry concealed handguns.
Missouri’s law would subject law enforcement agencies with officers who knowingly enforce any federal laws to a fine of about $50,000 per violating officer.
Republican lawmakers who worked to pass the bill have said they were motivated by the potential of more restrictive gun laws in the Biden administration. But state Democrats have argued the law is unconstitutional and have predicted it would not pass a challenge in the courts.
The Justice Department argued in the letter that the state lacks the authority to shield any Missouri businesses or citizens from federal law or to prevent federal law enforcement officials from carrying out their duties.
Boynton said the bill “conflicts with federal firearms laws and regulation” and federal law would supersede the state’s new statute. He said federal agents and the U.S. attorney’s offices in the state would continue to enforce all federal firearms laws and regulations. He asked that Parson and Eric Schmitt, the state’s attorney general, clarify the law and how it would work in a response by Friday.
Six states have passed legislation removing or weakening concealed-carry permit requirements this year, most recently Texas, where Republican Gov. Greg Abbott signed a bill Wednesday. About 20 states now allow people to carry concealed weapons without a license. At least three other states have passed legislation banning police from enforcing federal gun laws, a preemptive shot at any new measures passed by Democrats.
Justice Dept.: Missouri governor can't void federal gun laws
The Justice Department is warning Missouri officials that the state can’t ignore federal law, after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules. In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S...www.aol.com
I have talked to city police who have little respect for the Feds. If the Feds want to enforce draconian gun laws they will be on their own in many areas of our nation.There’s no ‘may’ about it, Justice is in fact correct.
And again, no one seeks to force state and local officials to enforce Federal firearm laws; that’s the sole purview of Federal authorities
So what your saying is that if the Federal Government passes gun control laws state and local governments can choose not to enforce them ?Just as there’s no such thing as Second Amendment ‘sanctuary’ states, there’s no such thing as ‘sanctuary cities.’Then why do we have sanctuary cities for illegal aliens if the Federal government is so damn powerful?
Whether it’s the enforcement of Federal immigration law or Federal firearm law, the Federal government cannot compel state and local jurisdictions to enforce those Federal laws.
State and local authorities are at liberty to assist in the enforcement of Federal laws if they elect to do so, but state and local jurisdictions cannot penalized local officials who volunteer to assist, which is at issue here.
Not if you believe in truth rather than political hacks.The Supreme Court has – and that’s all that matters.You made ZERO argument for any federal firearms laws having any legitimacy.
And with that post you just shit all over your argument. The Constitution is supreme and it say shall not be infringed. So fuck off with your federal gun laws.“In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S. Constitution's Supremacy Clause outweighs the measure that Gov. Mike Parson signed into law Saturday. The new rules penalize local police departments if their officers enforce federal gun laws.” ibidthere is only one Constitutional gun law and it THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGEDWrong.But Missouri should have won.
The federal government has ZERO firearm jurisdiction, so any attempt by any federal agent to enforce any gun law should result in their arrest.
Missouri should have lost – the notion of Second Amendment ‘sanctuary’ is idiocy completely devoid of legal and Constitutional merit:
“This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.” Article VI, US Cont.
Federal law is the supreme law of the land, preempting state and local laws.
Federal authorities are at complete liberty to enforce Federal laws in any state or jurisdiction.
If anyone’s going be arrested, it will be anyone interfering with Federal authorities enforcing just, proper, and Constitutional firearm laws.
The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution – the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, Federal law supersedes that of state and local laws; a fact settled, accepted, and beyond dispute, reaffirmed by the Supreme Court in Cooper v. Aaron (1958).
HERE'S THE REASON YOU DON'T POST MUCH IN ONE THREAD YOU LIE AND WHEN BUSTED YOU RUN AWAY COME BACK LATER IGNORING WHEN YOU GOT BUSTED AND CONTINUE AS IF NOTHING HAPPENED.Just as there’s no such thing as Second Amendment ‘sanctuary’ states, there’s no such thing as ‘sanctuary cities.’Then why do we have sanctuary cities for illegal aliens if the Federal government is so damn powerful?
Whether it’s the enforcement of Federal immigration law or Federal firearm law, the Federal government cannot compel state and local jurisdictions to enforce those Federal laws.
State and local authorities are at liberty to assist in the enforcement of Federal laws if they elect to do so, but state and local jurisdictions cannot penalized local officials who volunteer to assist, which is at issue here.
WTF do you think all the defund the police shit coming from democrats is?This is a lie.that's a double edge sword that cuts both ways.
On one hand democrats championed defunding the police and their supporters cheered them
Now if they federalize the police those defenders will turn on them sweet.
Democrats do not advocate taking money from local law enforcement; nor do they advocate ‘Federalizing’ local law enforcement.
He only knows how to lieWTF do you think all the defund the police shit coming from democrats is?This is a lie.that's a double edge sword that cuts both ways.
On one hand democrats championed defunding the police and their supporters cheered them
Now if they federalize the police those defenders will turn on them sweet.
Democrats do not advocate taking money from local law enforcement; nor do they advocate ‘Federalizing’ local law enforcement.
Muslims love gun laws. I can stab non - Muslims now, acting like I am Abraham who killed wicked kings, killing people with my large steak knives, lunging for the jugular in the persons neck. No one has a gun. Don't people know anything about Muslims?It would be nice if conservatives would at least READ the US Constitution before they pass laws that won't be upheld upon a court challenge, thereby wasting everyone's time in the process. Instead, it would be nice if they spent their time actually working to get things done for the people. But I guess that's too much to ask..
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Justice Dept.: Missouri governor can't void federal gun laws
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department is warning Missouri officials that the state can’t ignore federal law, after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules.
In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S. Constitution's Supremacy Clause outweighs the measure that Gov. Mike Parson signed into law Saturday. The new rules penalize local police departments if their officers enforce federal gun laws.
Acting Assistant Attorney General Brian Boynton said the law threatens to disrupt the working relationship between federal and local authorities, they said in the letter, noting that Missouri receives federal grants and technical assistance.
“The public safety of the people of the United States and citizens of Missouri is paramount,” Boynton wrote in the letter.
President Joe Biden has made gun control laws a priority of his administration, and the House has passed two bills requiring background checks on firearms sales and an expanded review for gun purchases, though they face a tough road in the Senate. But states, including Missouri, have increasingly worked to loosen gun laws, including abandoning requirements that people get training and pass background checks to carry concealed handguns.
Missouri’s law would subject law enforcement agencies with officers who knowingly enforce any federal laws to a fine of about $50,000 per violating officer.
Republican lawmakers who worked to pass the bill have said they were motivated by the potential of more restrictive gun laws in the Biden administration. But state Democrats have argued the law is unconstitutional and have predicted it would not pass a challenge in the courts.
The Justice Department argued in the letter that the state lacks the authority to shield any Missouri businesses or citizens from federal law or to prevent federal law enforcement officials from carrying out their duties.
Boynton said the bill “conflicts with federal firearms laws and regulation” and federal law would supersede the state’s new statute. He said federal agents and the U.S. attorney’s offices in the state would continue to enforce all federal firearms laws and regulations. He asked that Parson and Eric Schmitt, the state’s attorney general, clarify the law and how it would work in a response by Friday.
Six states have passed legislation removing or weakening concealed-carry permit requirements this year, most recently Texas, where Republican Gov. Greg Abbott signed a bill Wednesday. About 20 states now allow people to carry concealed weapons without a license. At least three other states have passed legislation banning police from enforcing federal gun laws, a preemptive shot at any new measures passed by Democrats.
Justice Dept.: Missouri governor can't void federal gun laws
The Justice Department is warning Missouri officials that the state can’t ignore federal law, after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules. In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S...
Sure they can.... Democrats ignore federal immigration laws......and that's not even in the bill of rights........2A is.....can't erase it........no matter how hard you tryIt would be nice if conservatives would at least READ the US Constitution before they pass laws that won't be upheld upon a court challenge, thereby wasting everyone's time in the process. Instead, it would be nice if they spent their time actually working to get things done for the people. But I guess that's too much to ask..
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Justice Dept.: Missouri governor can't void federal gun laws
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department is warning Missouri officials that the state can’t ignore federal law, after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules.
In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S. Constitution's Supremacy Clause outweighs the measure that Gov. Mike Parson signed into law Saturday. The new rules penalize local police departments if their officers enforce federal gun laws.
Acting Assistant Attorney General Brian Boynton said the law threatens to disrupt the working relationship between federal and local authorities, they said in the letter, noting that Missouri receives federal grants and technical assistance.
“The public safety of the people of the United States and citizens of Missouri is paramount,” Boynton wrote in the letter.
President Joe Biden has made gun control laws a priority of his administration, and the House has passed two bills requiring background checks on firearms sales and an expanded review for gun purchases, though they face a tough road in the Senate. But states, including Missouri, have increasingly worked to loosen gun laws, including abandoning requirements that people get training and pass background checks to carry concealed handguns.
Missouri’s law would subject law enforcement agencies with officers who knowingly enforce any federal laws to a fine of about $50,000 per violating officer.
Republican lawmakers who worked to pass the bill have said they were motivated by the potential of more restrictive gun laws in the Biden administration. But state Democrats have argued the law is unconstitutional and have predicted it would not pass a challenge in the courts.
The Justice Department argued in the letter that the state lacks the authority to shield any Missouri businesses or citizens from federal law or to prevent federal law enforcement officials from carrying out their duties.
Boynton said the bill “conflicts with federal firearms laws and regulation” and federal law would supersede the state’s new statute. He said federal agents and the U.S. attorney’s offices in the state would continue to enforce all federal firearms laws and regulations. He asked that Parson and Eric Schmitt, the state’s attorney general, clarify the law and how it would work in a response by Friday.
Six states have passed legislation removing or weakening concealed-carry permit requirements this year, most recently Texas, where Republican Gov. Greg Abbott signed a bill Wednesday. About 20 states now allow people to carry concealed weapons without a license. At least three other states have passed legislation banning police from enforcing federal gun laws, a preemptive shot at any new measures passed by Democrats.
Justice Dept.: Missouri governor can't void federal gun laws
The Justice Department is warning Missouri officials that the state can’t ignore federal law, after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules. In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S...
All the Governor needs to do is declare MO to be 2A Sanctuary StateIt would be nice if conservatives would at least READ the US Constitution before they pass laws that won't be upheld upon a court challenge, thereby wasting everyone's time in the process. Instead, it would be nice if they spent their time actually working to get things done for the people. But I guess that's too much to ask..
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Justice Dept.: Missouri governor can't void federal gun laws
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department is warning Missouri officials that the state can’t ignore federal law, after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules.
In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S. Constitution's Supremacy Clause outweighs the measure that Gov. Mike Parson signed into law Saturday. The new rules penalize local police departments if their officers enforce federal gun laws.
Acting Assistant Attorney General Brian Boynton said the law threatens to disrupt the working relationship between federal and local authorities, they said in the letter, noting that Missouri receives federal grants and technical assistance.
“The public safety of the people of the United States and citizens of Missouri is paramount,” Boynton wrote in the letter.
President Joe Biden has made gun control laws a priority of his administration, and the House has passed two bills requiring background checks on firearms sales and an expanded review for gun purchases, though they face a tough road in the Senate. But states, including Missouri, have increasingly worked to loosen gun laws, including abandoning requirements that people get training and pass background checks to carry concealed handguns.
Missouri’s law would subject law enforcement agencies with officers who knowingly enforce any federal laws to a fine of about $50,000 per violating officer.
Republican lawmakers who worked to pass the bill have said they were motivated by the potential of more restrictive gun laws in the Biden administration. But state Democrats have argued the law is unconstitutional and have predicted it would not pass a challenge in the courts.
The Justice Department argued in the letter that the state lacks the authority to shield any Missouri businesses or citizens from federal law or to prevent federal law enforcement officials from carrying out their duties.
Boynton said the bill “conflicts with federal firearms laws and regulation” and federal law would supersede the state’s new statute. He said federal agents and the U.S. attorney’s offices in the state would continue to enforce all federal firearms laws and regulations. He asked that Parson and Eric Schmitt, the state’s attorney general, clarify the law and how it would work in a response by Friday.
Six states have passed legislation removing or weakening concealed-carry permit requirements this year, most recently Texas, where Republican Gov. Greg Abbott signed a bill Wednesday. About 20 states now allow people to carry concealed weapons without a license. At least three other states have passed legislation banning police from enforcing federal gun laws, a preemptive shot at any new measures passed by Democrats.
Justice Dept.: Missouri governor can't void federal gun laws
The Justice Department is warning Missouri officials that the state can’t ignore federal law, after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules. In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S...
It would be nice if conservatives would at least READ the US Constitution before they pass laws that won't be upheld upon a court challenge, thereby wasting everyone's time in the process. Instead, it would be nice if they spent their time actually working to get things done for the people. But I guess that's too much to ask..
__________________________________________________________
Justice Dept.: Missouri governor can't void federal gun laws
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department is warning Missouri officials that the state can’t ignore federal law, after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules.
In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S. Constitution's Supremacy Clause outweighs the measure that Gov. Mike Parson signed into law Saturday. The new rules penalize local police departments if their officers enforce federal gun laws.
Acting Assistant Attorney General Brian Boynton said the law threatens to disrupt the working relationship between federal and local authorities, they said in the letter, noting that Missouri receives federal grants and technical assistance.
“The public safety of the people of the United States and citizens of Missouri is paramount,” Boynton wrote in the letter.
President Joe Biden has made gun control laws a priority of his administration, and the House has passed two bills requiring background checks on firearms sales and an expanded review for gun purchases, though they face a tough road in the Senate. But states, including Missouri, have increasingly worked to loosen gun laws, including abandoning requirements that people get training and pass background checks to carry concealed handguns.
Missouri’s law would subject law enforcement agencies with officers who knowingly enforce any federal laws to a fine of about $50,000 per violating officer.
Republican lawmakers who worked to pass the bill have said they were motivated by the potential of more restrictive gun laws in the Biden administration. But state Democrats have argued the law is unconstitutional and have predicted it would not pass a challenge in the courts.
The Justice Department argued in the letter that the state lacks the authority to shield any Missouri businesses or citizens from federal law or to prevent federal law enforcement officials from carrying out their duties.
Boynton said the bill “conflicts with federal firearms laws and regulation” and federal law would supersede the state’s new statute. He said federal agents and the U.S. attorney’s offices in the state would continue to enforce all federal firearms laws and regulations. He asked that Parson and Eric Schmitt, the state’s attorney general, clarify the law and how it would work in a response by Friday.
Six states have passed legislation removing or weakening concealed-carry permit requirements this year, most recently Texas, where Republican Gov. Greg Abbott signed a bill Wednesday. About 20 states now allow people to carry concealed weapons without a license. At least three other states have passed legislation banning police from enforcing federal gun laws, a preemptive shot at any new measures passed by Democrats.
Justice Dept.: Missouri governor can't void federal gun laws
The Justice Department is warning Missouri officials that the state can’t ignore federal law, after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules. In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S...
{... vete a la chingada It's a mexican phrase meaning "go the hell ", or with a stronger meaning like " get the fuck out of here " ...}The thread exemplifies and exposes two threads of thought that have competed since Englishmen organised the first communities on these shores.
One group sees the state, however configured, so dominant as if it were ordained by GOD (or the gods), omnipotent and unquestionable. They’d have gladly remained loyal to the crown and made fine tories of themselves. The King and His Parliament are the law and lawgivers and this is the right of kings. In other societies and other times they and their ilk would cheer the tanks rolling into Tiananmen Square, the Nuremberg rallies, the May Day parades, the circuses in the forum, the crucifixion. The law is the law.
The second see the supremacy of the rights of individuals, sternly defending those rights against usurpations large and small no matter what direction the threat comes from.
The guns are simply a symbol in this conflict of ideas.
My reasoned and considered response to the first group is vete a la chingada.
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Sarcasm I assume, hope, etc.?Stupid Republicans think the bill of rights are limits on government power when clearly they are actually powers of government. Can't they read?
LOL, you're a tool
Wrong.
Missouri should have lost – the notion of Second Amendment ‘sanctuary’ is idiocy completely devoid of legal and Constitutional merit:
“This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.” Article VI, US Cont.
Federal law is the supreme law of the land, preempting state and local laws.
Federal authorities are at complete liberty to enforce Federal laws in any state or jurisdiction.
If anyone’s going be arrested, it will be anyone interfering with Federal authorities enforcing just, proper, and Constitutional firearm laws.
The Missouri gov most certainly CAN void federal gun laws.
The 9th and 10th amendments are clear that the federal government can only pass legislation on what it has been specifically authorized to pass in the Constitution.
And not only is the federal government not authorized to pass gun laws, but strictly prohibited by the 2nd amendment.
The Constitution divided jurisdictions between federal and state, with the feds getting zero firearm jurisdiction, and states getting 100% of federal jurisdiction.
So the Justice Dept. is totally crazy, out to lunch, criminal.
There can be no legal federal firearm law.
