Just who are the terrorists?

[BillyP]

There are German WWII NAZIS still alive anywhere on the planet?

Bring up the holocost. The deniers..the miss counters of the victims.. Blame that on the dirt poor Palastinians too.

The bottom line is obviously that Jews believe they are more worthy of life than the wretched Palastinians.

Strangely enough most of the planet does not agree with your views.

Why is that? Is it because everyone in the world is the hiders of NAZIS?

You and yours give rise to the possible wish that before the world had rid itself of NAZIS that they had done a more thorough job of eliminating one of the more thoughtless and self serving groups of people in the world.

Someone with no dog in the fight might rightfully feel that the planet would be a safer and more just place if as most failed societies the Jews would have gone quietly into the night.

Maybe the ungratefull Jews should recognise that without for the kindness of the winners of WWII the Jews would have no country at all. WE(USA) and England didn't owe the Jews a damned thing.

Contrarily to reason and comon sense the Jews are vacant of a responsibility to the world and owe us proper stewardship of the country they were handed on a silver platter.

If for no other reason the Jews should be bent over backwards in efforts to accomodate the people that lived in and around the land they never earned.

The Jews have no such humility. If it could be revisited I'm sure the major players after WWII would have never entrusted the Jews to do the right thing.

What do you mean "never earned"? The area was a wasteland before the Jews arrived, as Mark Twain testifies to. Who drained the swamps? Who made the desert bloom? Who built the cities?

Mark Twain died April 21 1910.

He was not a witness to the misadventure of displacing a people in favor of a people that have shown no appreciation for the gesture.

For some reason the Jews believe they are OWED the land they occupy under the protective umbrella of the winners of WWII.

I think the powers that made it possible for Israel to exist should rescind the policy and give the land back to it's pre WWII habitants. The Jews have been horrible tenants of that land. Their stewardship has been the cause of much of the problem of that area. What the winners of WWII should have done is give sections of Germany, Austria and Poland to the Jews. Then at least they would be up against their betters as they attempt to land grab from native Germanic caucasians. At least then all the crying about NAZIS would have some merit.

It's not about your fantasy world of how things should be, it's about the real world of today that Israel exists and how to make peace with barbarians who want to wipe you off the map.

 

[member]

ter·ror·ism
noun - the killing of civilians as a means of furthering political or military goals.

If you landed on earth from another planet this week, knowing nothing other than the most common use of the word “terrorism,” which side do you think would most frequently be referred to as “terrorists”?​

But according to the sick, black is white, up is down, world of the pro-Israeli apologist...

...when Palestinians overwhelmingly kill soldiers (95% of the Israeli death toll) who are part of an army that is blockading, occupying, invading, and indiscriminately bombing them and killing their children by the hundreds, that is “terrorism”;​

and​

...when Israelis use massive, brutal force against a trapped civilian population, overwhelmingly killing innocent men, women and children (at least 75% of the Palestinian death toll), with clear intentions to kill civilians, that is noble “self-defense.” ​

And so goes this fucked up reality of the pro-Israeli crowd.

I swear, you make me sick (now). This is how bad:





"JUST WHO ARE THE TERRORISTS"






Associated Press





EVIL “SYRIA:”

"The Syrian government is still indiscriminately bombing civilians with explosives-filled barrels in defiance of a U.N. Security Council resolution, an international human rights group said Wednesday. The Human Rights Watch statement came as the Security Council was expected to meet for a fifth round of reporting on the resolution — and at least 11 people were killed by the bombs overnight. [...] The crude weapons — barrels packed with explosives and scraps of metal that are pushed out of helicopters — cannot be precisely targeted. They have caused widespread civilian casualties as they hit homes, schools and open markets. Barrel bombs on Aleppo have killed more than 2,000 people this year.

Also Wednesday, an explosives-rigged vehicle exploded in a neighborhood of the central city of Homs, killing two people, state-run news reported. The Observatory said the neighborhood's population is mainly Alawite. President Bashar Assad hails from the country's Alawite minority, whose faith is an offshoot of Shiite Islam."



BENGHAZI, LIBYA:

“Islamic hard-line militias, including the group accused by the United States in a 2012 attack that killed the ambassador and three other Americans, claimed control of Libya's second largest city, Benghazi, after overrunning army barracks and seizing heavy weapons -- The extent of the militias' control over Benghazi was not clear. the city's streets were nearly empty, with residents staying indoors and no sign of checkpoints by either militiamen or security forces. The main police headquarters was still smoldering after it was hit by militia shelling a day earlier, and smoke rose from the barracks of the Special Forces”



LEBANON/ IRAQ / SYRIA:

“A commander with the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah was recently killed while on a "jihadi mission" in Iraq-- The officials, who are close to the Shiite Hezbollah, said that Ibrahim Mohammed al-Haj was killed sometime in the past week -- It was the first known Hezbollah death in Iraq since Sunni extremists with the Islamic State captured large parts of the country north and west of Baghdad in June. Iraqi officials have said that a handful of advisers from Hezbollah are offering front-line guidance to Iraqi Shiite militias fighting the Sunni extremists north of Baghdad. But it is not known if — beyond the advisers — any Hezbollah fighters are fighting along Iraqi Shiite militiamen. Last year, Hezbollah fighters openly joined Syrian President Bashar Assad's forces in a decision that has fueled sectarian tensions in Lebanon."



EGYPT: IMAGINE, EGYPT, what a shame it turned into an evil hell hole, and a non-tourist attraction now.

"Three suspected militants died Wednesday when a bomb they were carrying in their car apparently went off by accident in a town south of Cairo, Egypt's official news agency reported. The explosion took place in the early morning hours in the town of el-Saf in Giza province, said MENA. The report quoted unnamed security officials as saying the suspects were carrying an explosive device, which was likely detonated by mistake. MENA gave no further details. Egypt has battled an Islamic insurgency for the past three years that dramatically escalated after the military's ouster last July of Islamist President Mohammed Morsi and its subsequent crackdown on his Muslim Brotherhood supporters."


YEMEN

"As one of the Arab world's most impoverished nations, Yemen is struggling with both economic and security challenges, as its military faces al-Qaida militants, along with a secessionist movement in the south and northern rebel forces in the north."


DUBAI:

"European airlines and a Dubai-based carrier are rerouting flights over Iraqi airspace as a security precaution amid fears that militants with the Islamic State group have weapons capable of shooting down planes, despite Iraq saying its skies are safe."


TUNISIA/ALGERIA:

"Tunisia's Defense Ministry says the army chief of staff has resigned, citing personal reasons, following a deadly attack by militants against Tunisian soldiers.The ministry said Wednesday Gen. Mohammed Salah Hamdi presented his letter of resignation on July 23, less than a week after 15 soldiers were killed by militants along the Algerian border. On July 27, two other soldiers were killed by militants in the northern Kef region, also near Algeria. Tunisia has been battling radical al-Qaida-linked Islamist militants. Their main hideouts are believed to be in the mountainous regions along the Algerian border. Hamdi was appointed in June 2013 after the retirement of Gen. Rachid Ammar, who famously refused to intervene in the popular overthrow of dictator Zine El Abidine Ben Ali in 2011."



THAT barrel bombing. is beyond...evil. where's that mr. moon off to next ? i hope it's syria. but, it IS a hard choice........so much EVIL mentioned above, where do you start ?


"If you landed on earth from another planet this week, knowing nothing other than the most common use of the word “terrorism,”


if anybody's from another planet on this issue, it's ....you know. bye.

 

[toastman]

There are German WWII NAZIS still alive anywhere on the planet?

Bring up the holocost. The deniers..the miss counters of the victims.. Blame that on the dirt poor Palastinians too.

The bottom line is obviously that Jews believe they are more worthy of life than the wretched Palastinians.

Strangely enough most of the planet does not agree with your views.

Why is that? Is it because everyone in the world is the hiders of NAZIS?

You and yours give rise to the possible wish that before the world had rid itself of NAZIS that they had done a more thorough job of eliminating one of the more thoughtless and self serving groups of people in the world.

Someone with no dog in the fight might rightfully feel that the planet would be a safer and more just place if as most failed societies the Jews would have gone quietly into the night.

Maybe the ungratefull Jews should recognise that without for the kindness of the winners of WWII the Jews would have no country at all. WE(USA) and England didn't owe the Jews a damned thing.

Contrarily to reason and comon sense the Jews are vacant of a responsibility to the world and owe us proper stewardship of the country they were handed on a silver platter.

If for no other reason the Jews should be bent over backwards in efforts to accomodate the people that lived in and around the land they never earned.

The Jews have no such humility. If it could be revisited I'm sure the major players after WWII would have never entrusted the Jews to do the right thing.

What do you mean "never earned"? The area was a wasteland before the Jews arrived, as Mark Twain testifies to. Who drained the swamps? Who made the desert bloom? Who built the cities?

Mark Twain died April 21 1910.

He was not a witness to the misadventure of displacing a people in favor of a people that have shown no appreciation for the gesture.

For some reason the Jews believe they are OWED the land they occupy under the protective umbrella of the winners of WWII.

I think the powers that made it possible for Israel to exist should rescind the policy and give the land back to it's pre WWII habitants. The Jews have been horrible tenants of that land. Their stewardship has been the cause of much of the problem of that area. What the winners of WWII should have done is give sections of Germany, Austria and Poland to the Jews. Then at least they would be up against their betters as they attempt to land grab from native Germanic caucasians. At least then all the crying about NAZIS would have some merit.

Horrible tenants?? Ya, damn those Jews for not sitting idle while surrounding Arabs have tried to destroy them

Israel exists weather you like it or not, and that's not going to change. The sooner you stop whining about it.....actually, i couldn't care less of you whine about it.

 

[Billo_Really]

I do not know where you got your statistic,

I provided the link.

but the killing in Gaza has been and is about one (1) Israel killed by Palestine

Actually, it was 3.

to one hundred (100) Palestinians killed by Israel. And the bombing of Palestine schools, Hospitals and water system by Israel are just solid evidence that Israel is nothing but pure evil.

I agree with that.

Dynasty Israel, dating back to Bible days, has always been nomadic. I believe the history of Israel (Bible records included) is the history of social justice in its extremity. Landgrab is no way to establish home and dominate:

Palestine, Israel and God - Palestine, Israel and God - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com

I could care less about Israeli history.

 

[HUGGY]

What do you mean "never earned"? The area was a wasteland before the Jews arrived, as Mark Twain testifies to. Who drained the swamps? Who made the desert bloom? Who built the cities?

Mark Twain died April 21 1910.

He was not a witness to the misadventure of displacing a people in favor of a people that have shown no appreciation for the gesture.

For some reason the Jews believe they are OWED the land they occupy under the protective umbrella of the winners of WWII.

I think the powers that made it possible for Israel to exist should rescind the policy and give the land back to it's pre WWII habitants. The Jews have been horrible tenants of that land. Their stewardship has been the cause of much of the problem of that area. What the winners of WWII should have done is give sections of Germany, Austria and Poland to the Jews. Then at least they would be up against their betters as they attempt to land grab from native Germanic caucasians. At least then all the crying about NAZIS would have some merit.

It's not about your fantasy world of how things should be, it's about the real world of today that Israel exists and how to make peace with barbarians who want to wipe you off the map.

Nobody wants to wipe me off of the map.

I'm Irish. We bombed the crap outta the British because that's all we had. Now the British have figured out it makes more sense to treat people fairly. The British were wrong and they came to grips with that truth. The truth was that no one wants to bomb you or send missles into your territory without some just cause. The sooner you people figure that out the sooner you will start to mend fences rather than mow them down with tanks.

The Jews could learn a lot from the British--Irish situation and the solution. You might take notice that there is a stable peace in Ireland.

 

[Barb]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5tlHsC5GQs"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5tlHsC5GQs[/ame]

 

[Ropey]

ter·ror·ism
noun - the killing of civilians as a means of furthering political or military goals.

If you landed on earth from another planet this week, knowing nothing other than the most common use of the word “terrorism,” which side do you think would most frequently be referred to as “terrorists”?​

But according to the sick, black is white, up is down, world of the pro-Israeli apologist...

...when Palestinians overwhelmingly kill soldiers (95% of the Israeli death toll) who are part of an army that is blockading, occupying, invading, and indiscriminately bombing them and killing their children by the hundreds, that is “terrorism”;​

and​

...when Israelis use massive, brutal force against a trapped civilian population, overwhelmingly killing innocent men, women and children (at least 75% of the Palestinian death toll), with clear intentions to kill civilians, that is noble “self-defense.” ​

And so goes this fucked up reality of the pro-Israeli crowd.

I swear, you make me sick (now). This is how bad:



"JUST WHO ARE THE TERRORISTS"



Associated Press

EVIL “SYRIA:”

"The Syrian government is still indiscriminately bombing civilians with explosives-filled barrels in defiance of a U.N. Security Council resolution, an international human rights group said Wednesday. The Human Rights Watch statement came as the Security Council was expected to meet for a fifth round of reporting on the resolution — and at least 11 people were killed by the bombs overnight. [...] The crude weapons — barrels packed with explosives and scraps of metal that are pushed out of helicopters — cannot be precisely targeted. They have caused widespread civilian casualties as they hit homes, schools and open markets. Barrel bombs on Aleppo have killed more than 2,000 people this year.

Also Wednesday, an explosives-rigged vehicle exploded in a neighborhood of the central city of Homs, killing two people, state-run news reported. The Observatory said the neighborhood's population is mainly Alawite. President Bashar Assad hails from the country's Alawite minority, whose faith is an offshoot of Shiite Islam."

BENGHAZI, LIBYA:

“Islamic hard-line militias, including the group accused by the United States in a 2012 attack that killed the ambassador and three other Americans, claimed control of Libya's second largest city, Benghazi, after overrunning army barracks and seizing heavy weapons -- The extent of the militias' control over Benghazi was not clear. the city's streets were nearly empty, with residents staying indoors and no sign of checkpoints by either militiamen or security forces. The main police headquarters was still smoldering after it was hit by militia shelling a day earlier, and smoke rose from the barracks of the Special Forces”



LEBANON/ IRAQ / SYRIA:

“A commander with the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah was recently killed while on a "jihadi mission" in Iraq-- The officials, who are close to the Shiite Hezbollah, said that Ibrahim Mohammed al-Haj was killed sometime in the past week -- It was the first known Hezbollah death in Iraq since Sunni extremists with the Islamic State captured large parts of the country north and west of Baghdad in June. Iraqi officials have said that a handful of advisers from Hezbollah are offering front-line guidance to Iraqi Shiite militias fighting the Sunni extremists north of Baghdad. But it is not known if — beyond the advisers — any Hezbollah fighters are fighting along Iraqi Shiite militiamen. Last year, Hezbollah fighters openly joined Syrian President Bashar Assad's forces in a decision that has fueled sectarian tensions in Lebanon."

EGYPT: IMAGINE, EGYPT, what a shame it turned into an evil hell hole, and a non-tourist attraction now.

"Three suspected militants died Wednesday when a bomb they were carrying in their car apparently went off by accident in a town south of Cairo, Egypt's official news agency reported. The explosion took place in the early morning hours in the town of el-Saf in Giza province, said MENA. The report quoted unnamed security officials as saying the suspects were carrying an explosive device, which was likely detonated by mistake. MENA gave no further details. Egypt has battled an Islamic insurgency for the past three years that dramatically escalated after the military's ouster last July of Islamist President Mohammed Morsi and its subsequent crackdown on his Muslim Brotherhood supporters."

YEMEN

"As one of the Arab world's most impoverished nations, Yemen is struggling with both economic and security challenges, as its military faces al-Qaida militants, along with a secessionist movement in the south and northern rebel forces in the north."

DUBAI:

"European airlines and a Dubai-based carrier are rerouting flights over Iraqi airspace as a security precaution amid fears that militants with the Islamic State group have weapons capable of shooting down planes, despite Iraq saying its skies are safe."

TUNISIA/ALGERIA:

"Tunisia's Defense Ministry says the army chief of staff has resigned, citing personal reasons, following a deadly attack by militants against Tunisian soldiers.The ministry said Wednesday Gen. Mohammed Salah Hamdi presented his letter of resignation on July 23, less than a week after 15 soldiers were killed by militants along the Algerian border. On July 27, two other soldiers were killed by militants in the northern Kef region, also near Algeria. Tunisia has been battling radical al-Qaida-linked Islamist militants. Their main hideouts are believed to be in the mountainous regions along the Algerian border. Hamdi was appointed in June 2013 after the retirement of Gen. Rachid Ammar, who famously refused to intervene in the popular overthrow of dictator Zine El Abidine Ben Ali in 2011."

THAT barrel bombing. is beyond...evil. where's that mr. moon off to next ? i hope it's syria. but, it IS a hard choice........so much EVIL mentioned above, where do you start ?

"If you landed on earth from another planet this week, knowing nothing other than the most common use of the word “terrorism,”

if anybody's from another planet on this issue, it's ....you know. bye.

Well put together.

 

[ErikViking]

Isn't this a classic stance between a military superior occupation force and a civil society with resistance pockets?
(Disregarding history, claims and words like "terrorism".)

People of Gaza suffers like all civilians do when in a war-zone. Vietnam, Afghanistan (80ies), or Poland and Czechnia during WWII.

 

[Billo_Really]

Isn't this a classic stance between a military superior occupation force and a civil society with resistance pockets?
(Disregarding history, claims and words like "terrorism".)

People of Gaza suffers like all civilians do when in a war-zone. Vietnam, Afghanistan (80ies), or Poland and Czechnia during WWII.

Only this isn't a war.

A war is fought between opposing army's of sovereign nations, not between the most militarized country on the planet against a population under occupation that is not even allowed to have weapons to defend itself.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Mark Twain died April 21 1910.

He was not a witness to the misadventure of displacing a people in favor of a people that have shown no appreciation for the gesture.

For some reason the Jews believe they are OWED the land they occupy under the protective umbrella of the winners of WWII.

I think the powers that made it possible for Israel to exist should rescind the policy and give the land back to it's pre WWII habitants. The Jews have been horrible tenants of that land. Their stewardship has been the cause of much of the problem of that area. What the winners of WWII should have done is give sections of Germany, Austria and Poland to the Jews. Then at least they would be up against their betters as they attempt to land grab from native Germanic caucasians. At least then all the crying about NAZIS would have some merit.

It's not about your fantasy world of how things should be, it's about the real world of today that Israel exists and how to make peace with barbarians who want to wipe you off the map.

Nobody wants to wipe me off of the map.

I'm Irish. We bombed the crap outta the British because that's all we had. Now the British have figured out it makes more sense to treat people fairly. The British were wrong and they came to grips with that truth. The truth was that no one wants to bomb you or send missles into your territory without some just cause. The sooner you people figure that out the sooner you will start to mend fences rather than mow them down with tanks.

The Jews could learn a lot from the British--Irish situation and the solution. You might take notice that there is a stable peace in Ireland.

The British and Irish are both Christians (of different sects). Making peace with radical Muslims is a different story.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

If you landed on earth from another planet this week, knowing nothing other than the most common use of the word “terrorism,” which side do you think would most frequently be referred to as “terrorists”?​

But according to the sick, black is white, up is down, world of the pro-Israeli apologist...

...when Palestinians overwhelmingly kill soldiers (95% of the Israeli death toll) who are part of an army that is blockading, occupying, invading, and indiscriminately bombing them and killing their children by the hundreds, that is “terrorism”;​

and​

...when Israelis use massive, brutal force against a trapped civilian population, overwhelmingly killing innocent men, women and children (at least 75% of the Palestinian death toll), with clear intentions to kill civilians, that is noble “self-defense.” ​

And so goes this fucked up reality of the pro-Israeli crowd.

I swear, you make me sick (now). This is how bad:



"JUST WHO ARE THE TERRORISTS"



Associated Press

EVIL “SYRIA:”

"The Syrian government is still indiscriminately bombing civilians with explosives-filled barrels in defiance of a U.N. Security Council resolution, an international human rights group said Wednesday. The Human Rights Watch statement came as the Security Council was expected to meet for a fifth round of reporting on the resolution — and at least 11 people were killed by the bombs overnight. [...] The crude weapons — barrels packed with explosives and scraps of metal that are pushed out of helicopters — cannot be precisely targeted. They have caused widespread civilian casualties as they hit homes, schools and open markets. Barrel bombs on Aleppo have killed more than 2,000 people this year.

Also Wednesday, an explosives-rigged vehicle exploded in a neighborhood of the central city of Homs, killing two people, state-run news reported. The Observatory said the neighborhood's population is mainly Alawite. President Bashar Assad hails from the country's Alawite minority, whose faith is an offshoot of Shiite Islam."

BENGHAZI, LIBYA:

“Islamic hard-line militias, including the group accused by the United States in a 2012 attack that killed the ambassador and three other Americans, claimed control of Libya's second largest city, Benghazi, after overrunning army barracks and seizing heavy weapons -- The extent of the militias' control over Benghazi was not clear. the city's streets were nearly empty, with residents staying indoors and no sign of checkpoints by either militiamen or security forces. The main police headquarters was still smoldering after it was hit by militia shelling a day earlier, and smoke rose from the barracks of the Special Forces”



LEBANON/ IRAQ / SYRIA:

“A commander with the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah was recently killed while on a "jihadi mission" in Iraq-- The officials, who are close to the Shiite Hezbollah, said that Ibrahim Mohammed al-Haj was killed sometime in the past week -- It was the first known Hezbollah death in Iraq since Sunni extremists with the Islamic State captured large parts of the country north and west of Baghdad in June. Iraqi officials have said that a handful of advisers from Hezbollah are offering front-line guidance to Iraqi Shiite militias fighting the Sunni extremists north of Baghdad. But it is not known if — beyond the advisers — any Hezbollah fighters are fighting along Iraqi Shiite militiamen. Last year, Hezbollah fighters openly joined Syrian President Bashar Assad's forces in a decision that has fueled sectarian tensions in Lebanon."

EGYPT: IMAGINE, EGYPT, what a shame it turned into an evil hell hole, and a non-tourist attraction now.

"Three suspected militants died Wednesday when a bomb they were carrying in their car apparently went off by accident in a town south of Cairo, Egypt's official news agency reported. The explosion took place in the early morning hours in the town of el-Saf in Giza province, said MENA. The report quoted unnamed security officials as saying the suspects were carrying an explosive device, which was likely detonated by mistake. MENA gave no further details. Egypt has battled an Islamic insurgency for the past three years that dramatically escalated after the military's ouster last July of Islamist President Mohammed Morsi and its subsequent crackdown on his Muslim Brotherhood supporters."

YEMEN

"As one of the Arab world's most impoverished nations, Yemen is struggling with both economic and security challenges, as its military faces al-Qaida militants, along with a secessionist movement in the south and northern rebel forces in the north."

DUBAI:

"European airlines and a Dubai-based carrier are rerouting flights over Iraqi airspace as a security precaution amid fears that militants with the Islamic State group have weapons capable of shooting down planes, despite Iraq saying its skies are safe."

TUNISIA/ALGERIA:

"Tunisia's Defense Ministry says the army chief of staff has resigned, citing personal reasons, following a deadly attack by militants against Tunisian soldiers.The ministry said Wednesday Gen. Mohammed Salah Hamdi presented his letter of resignation on July 23, less than a week after 15 soldiers were killed by militants along the Algerian border. On July 27, two other soldiers were killed by militants in the northern Kef region, also near Algeria. Tunisia has been battling radical al-Qaida-linked Islamist militants. Their main hideouts are believed to be in the mountainous regions along the Algerian border. Hamdi was appointed in June 2013 after the retirement of Gen. Rachid Ammar, who famously refused to intervene in the popular overthrow of dictator Zine El Abidine Ben Ali in 2011."

THAT barrel bombing. is beyond...evil. where's that mr. moon off to next ? i hope it's syria. but, it IS a hard choice........so much EVIL mentioned above, where do you start ?

"If you landed on earth from another planet this week, knowing nothing other than the most common use of the word “terrorism,”

if anybody's from another planet on this issue, it's ....you know. bye.

Well put together.

About 2 weeks ago, ISIS took over Mosul, Iraq. They expelled all the Christians there, blew up the Tomb of the Prophet Jonah, and passed a law allowing for the mutilation of female genitals. They also hung up the heads of their enemy Muslim fighters on top of poles. These are the barbarians Israel is up against.

 

[Billo_Really]

The British and Irish are both Christians (of different sects). Making peace with radical Muslims is a different story.

That would require Israel obeying the law, which they have no intention of doing.

 

[BillyP]

Mark Twain died April 21 1910.

He was not a witness to the misadventure of displacing a people in favor of a people that have shown no appreciation for the gesture.

For some reason the Jews believe they are OWED the land they occupy under the protective umbrella of the winners of WWII.

I think the powers that made it possible for Israel to exist should rescind the policy and give the land back to it's pre WWII habitants. The Jews have been horrible tenants of that land. Their stewardship has been the cause of much of the problem of that area. What the winners of WWII should have done is give sections of Germany, Austria and Poland to the Jews. Then at least they would be up against their betters as they attempt to land grab from native Germanic caucasians. At least then all the crying about NAZIS would have some merit.

It's not about your fantasy world of how things should be, it's about the real world of today that Israel exists and how to make peace with barbarians who want to wipe you off the map.

Nobody wants to wipe me off of the map.

I'm Irish. We bombed the crap outta the British because that's all we had. Now the British have figured out it makes more sense to treat people fairly. The British were wrong and they came to grips with that truth. The truth was that no one wants to bomb you or send missles into your territory without some just cause. The sooner you people figure that out the sooner you will start to mend fences rather than mow them down with tanks.

The Jews could learn a lot from the British--Irish situation and the solution. You might take notice that there is a stable peace in Ireland.

Ireland wasn't trying to wipe England off the map and never vowed to stop fighting until they do. **** are you confused or just a noob?

So tell us, when are you giving your land back to the Indians?

 

[ErikViking]

Isn't this a classic stance between a military superior occupation force and a civil society with resistance pockets?
(Disregarding history, claims and words like "terrorism".)

People of Gaza suffers like all civilians do when in a war-zone. Vietnam, Afghanistan (80ies), or Poland and Czechnia during WWII.

Only this isn't a war.

A war is fought between opposing army's of sovereign nations, not between the most militarized country on the planet against a population under occupation that is not even allowed to have weapons to defend itself.

You are right, it isn'a war. My bad, it is still a situation similar to any other occupation.
Trying to be objective I think Israel is in command regarding the level of voilence. They are careless about civilians. Hamas seems to act like any other resistance, avoiding direct contact. What differs is their ability to strike civilian targets - which they do. That weakens their position moraly.

 

[docmauser1]

The British and Irish are both Christians (of different sects). Making peace with radical Muslims is a different story.

That would require Israel obeying the law, which they have no intention of doing.

Sharia law?

 

[Lipush]

Today's events broke all rules. It seems a ceasefire is not within sight.

 

[asterism]

One People built tunnels, the other a nation

Just think what could have been.

Israel left Gaza in 2005. The vast international aid that flowed to Gaza could have been used to build the foundation of a nation.

Instead it was put to building tunnels and rocket infrastructure.

Rather than forging economic ties with the world, it forged military ties with Iran and Hezbollah to achieve the goal of the Hamas charter — the destruction of Israel.

Gaza tunnels | Hamas infiltration | concrete

Building tunnels is not terrorism.

Bombing civilians, is terrorism.

Ok.

Gaza: Palestinian Rockets Unlawfully Targeted Israeli Civilians | Human Rights Watch

 

[Abishai100]

This question has become very important in our age of street-talk politics.

The fact that liberals in the USA freely use eco-terrorism fantasy comic book avatars such as Poison Ivy (a fictional eco-radical woman) in discussions about general environmental activism places great burden on leaders to address the emotional needs of the people by publicly stating national views on terrorism identification.

For example, if European officials release in the press this weekend that they intend to secure public transportation systems in Paris, France and London, England fearing some acts of terrorism, they must 'sound' confident when questioned who they think the terrorists are.

Public policy now more than ever must reach the hearts and minds of the people, since we've obviously moved away from monarchy styled governance.

In the case of Israel-Palestine, weighing the relevance and evidence of grievances presented peacefully helps leaders assess which group is violating international codes of conduct and contract negotiations.

The Western press seems to place more blame on the Palestinians.

Talk is good. Talk will make us feel better about our kids buying justice-fantasy themed comic books and watching crime-fantasy television programs such as "Gotham" (Fox TV USA).