Just who are the terrorists?

[P F Tinmore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7WAoczRV_k

Gaza tunnels | Hamas infiltration | concrete

Building tunnels is not terrorism.

Bombing civilians, is terrorism.

Building tunnles is no terrorism, that true.

Just like creating guns is not terrorism.

What you do with the product is terrorism.

Duh.

What have they done with the tunnels that is terrorism?

 

[Darkwind]

If you landed on earth from another planet this week, knowing nothing other than the most common use of the word “terrorism,” which side do you think would most frequently be referred to as “terrorists”?​

But according to the sick, black is white, up is down, world of the pro-Israeli apologist...
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...when Palestinians overwhelmingly kill soldiers (95% of the Israeli death toll) who are part of an army that is blockading, occupying, invading, and indiscriminately bombing them and killing their children by the hundreds, that is “terrorism”;​

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and​

...when Israelis use massive, brutal force against a trapped civilian population, overwhelmingly killing innocent men, women and children (at least 75% of the Palestinian death toll), with clear intentions to kill civilians, that is noble “self-defense.” ​

And so goes this fucked up reality of the pro-Israeli crowd.

Your definition is wrong.


I corrected it for you.

Israeli Firsters have a bad case of cognitive dissonance. To a neutral it is obvious that the Israelis are the terrorists.

Reality altering drugs should not be taken prior to posting on an internet forum.

Do consult a substance abuse expert.

 

[BillyP]

Building tunnels is not terrorism.

Bombing civilians, is terrorism.

Building tunnles is no terrorism, that true.

Just like creating guns is not terrorism.

What you do with the product is terrorism.

Duh.

What have they done with the tunnels that is terrorism?

Are you pretending to be stupid? Or is it the real thing?

 

[Darkwind]

Building tunnles is no terrorism, that true.

Just like creating guns is not terrorism.

What you do with the product is terrorism.

Duh.

What have they done with the tunnels that is terrorism?

Are you pretending to be stupid? Or is it the real thing?

I'm thinking that the acting ability is not that good.

 

[montelatici]

Building tunnles is no terrorism, that true.

Just like creating guns is not terrorism.

What you do with the product is terrorism.

Duh.

What have they done with the tunnels that is terrorism?

Are you pretending to be stupid? Or is it the real thing?

Do you mean that using tunnels to break sieges is terrorism? That's a new one. From what I have seen, the tunnels have been used to engage the attackers on their own territory, a good tactic.

 

[Darkwind]

What have they done with the tunnels that is terrorism?

Are you pretending to be stupid? Or is it the real thing?

Do you mean that using tunnels to break sieges is terrorism? That's a new one. From what I have seen, the tunnels have been used to engage the attackers on their own territory, a good tactic.

English is not your first language I take it?

 

[montelatici]

Your definition is wrong.


I corrected it for you.

Israeli Firsters have a bad case of cognitive dissonance. To a neutral it is obvious that the Israelis are the terrorists.

Reality altering drugs should not be taken prior to posting on an internet forum.

Do consult a substance abuse expert.

Do you realize how silly you sound when you write such nonsense? It also makes it clear you haven't a clue what cognitive dissonance is. Google it and come back.

 

[montelatici]

Are you pretending to be stupid? Or is it the real thing?

Do you mean that using tunnels to break sieges is terrorism? That's a new one. From what I have seen, the tunnels have been used to engage the attackers on their own territory, a good tactic.

English is not your first language I take it?

No, as an Army brat whose father married a European, I learned my mother's language first. But my English is impeccable. As you have noted. (I get the misdirection play, son)

 

[Barb]

ter·ror·ism
noun

the killing of civilians as a means of furthering political or military goals.

If you landed on earth from another planet this week, knowing nothing other than the most common use of the word “terrorism,” which side do you think would most frequently be referred to as “terrorists”?​

But according to the sick, black is white, up is down, world of the pro-Israeli apologist...

...when Palestinians overwhelmingly kill soldiers (95% of the Israeli death toll) who are part of an army that is blockading, occupying, invading, and indiscriminately bombing them and killing their children by the hundreds, that is “terrorism”;​

and​

...when Israelis use massive, brutal force against a trapped civilian population, overwhelmingly killing innocent men, women and children (at least 75% of the Palestinian death toll), with clear intentions to kill civilians, that is noble “self-defense.” ​

And so goes this fucked up reality of the pro-Israeli crowd.

ter·ror·ism
noun

the killing of civilians as a means of furthering political or military goals.

"The real mortality of the atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan will never be known. The destruction and overwhelming chaos made orderly counting impossible. It is not unlikely that the estimates of killed and wounded in Hiroshima (150,000) and Nagasaki (75,000) are over conservative."
Hiroshima and Nagasaki Death Toll

Still wanna bash Israel?

Yes. Why would you think someone like me doesn't take a critical eye towards my own country and find something like the use of the atomic bomb reprehensible? That is EXACTLY why I don't understand why people who DO question our own actions get all queasy about it when the subject is Israel.

 

[BillyP]

What have they done with the tunnels that is terrorism?

Are you pretending to be stupid? Or is it the real thing?

Do you mean that using tunnels to break sieges is terrorism? That's a new one. From what I have seen, the tunnels have been used to engage the attackers on their own territory, a good tactic.

So they are trying to break the siege peacefully by tunnelling into their enemy's territory? How does that work?

 

[bendog]

The US is STILL using the Purple Hearts it produced for the anticipating invasion of Japan. I don't know anyone in the US who says Israel should just dry up and blow away rather than defending itself from aggression.

 

[HUGGY]

Bolivia says it clearly:

La Paz (AFP) - Bolivia on Wednesday renounced a visa exemption agreement with Israel in protest over its offensive in Gaza, and declared it a terrorist state.

President Evo Morales announced the move during a talk with a group of educators in the city of Cochabamba.

It "means, in other words, we are declaring (Israel) a terrorist state," he said.

The treaty has allowed Israelis to travel freely to Bolivia without a visa since 1972.

Morales said the Gaza offensive shows "that Israel is not a guarantor of the principles of respect for life and the elementary precepts of rights that govern the peaceful and harmonious coexistence of our international community."

More than two weeks of fighting in Gaza have left 1,300 dead and 6,000 wounded amid an intense Israeli air and ground campaign in response to missile attacks by the Islamist militant group Hamas.

In the latest development, 16 people were killed after two Israeli shells slammed into a United Nations school, drawing international protests.

Bolivia broke off diplomatic relations with Israel in 2009 over a previous military operation in Gaza.

In mid-July, Morales filed a request with the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights to prosecute Israel for "crimes against humanity."

news.yahoo.com/bolivia-declares-israel-terrorist-state-184920411.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory


South America is doing well.
Time for Europe to show its mettle.

Bolivia, hiders of nazis, what a surprise.

There are German WWII NAZIS still alive anywhere on the planet?

Bring up the holocost. The deniers..the miss counters of the victims.. Blame that on the dirt poor Palastinians too.

The bottom line is obviously that Jews believe they are more worthy of life than the wretched Palastinians.

Strangely enough most of the planet does not agree with your views.

Why is that? Is it because everyone in the world is the hiders of NAZIS?

You and yours give rise to the possible wish that before the world had rid itself of NAZIS that they had done a more thorough job of eliminating one of the more thoughtless and self serving groups of people in the world.

Someone with no dog in the fight might rightfully feel that the planet would be a safer and more just place if as most failed societies the Jews would have gone quietly into the night.

Maybe the ungratefull Jews should recognise that without for the kindness of the winners of WWII the Jews would have no country at all. WE(USA) and England didn't owe the Jews a damned thing.

Contrarily to reason and comon sense the Jews are vacant of a responsibility to the world and owe us proper stewardship of the country they were handed on a silver platter.

If for no other reason the Jews should be bent over backwards in efforts to accomodate the people that lived in and around the land they never earned.

The Jews have no such humility. If it could be revisited I'm sure the major players after WWII would have never entrusted the Jews to do the right thing.

 

[Ropey]

Building tunnels is not terrorism.

Bombing civilians, is terrorism.

Building tunnles is no terrorism, that true.

Just like creating guns is not terrorism.

What you do with the product is terrorism.

Duh.

What have they done with the tunnels that is terrorism?

Detecting and destroying tunnels used to infiltrate southern Israel has been one of the central missions of the IDF during the Gaza operation.

Israel determined to destroy Gaza tunnel system

"Israel cannot allow this situation. I mean, no country would allow such a situation. When people can cross the border for the purpose of killing and murdering," says Ben-Hillel.
Even when discovered, tunnels are difficult to destroy. They are often hundreds of feet long, so just blowing up the openings doesn't mean they can't be used again.

If the Palestinians can't stop the rocket attacks then the Israelis will. Bunker busters and constant bombing will eventually settle the area into nothing but rubble.

Stop the tunnels. Stop the rockets.

 

[Ropey]

Hamas has builts miles and miles of tunnels which would make excellent shelters for their children, but they refuse to use them for civilians since they want the deaths so as to continue their media blitz of outrage at the deaths they create.

Still, Hamas would not have Western media eating out of its hands and generating sympathy if it did build shelters for their people.

But then if they didn't fire rockets and create tunnels into Israel, they wouldn't need the shelters.

That's the insanity of their ideology.

^Bears repeating

 

[montelatici]

Are you pretending to be stupid? Or is it the real thing?

Do you mean that using tunnels to break sieges is terrorism? That's a new one. From what I have seen, the tunnels have been used to engage the attackers on their own territory, a good tactic.

So they are trying to break the siege peacefully by tunnelling into their enemy's territory? How does that work?

Why would a siege be broken peacefully? A siege is an act of war.

 

[Ropey]

Do you mean that using tunnels to break sieges is terrorism? That's a new one. From what I have seen, the tunnels have been used to engage the attackers on their own territory, a good tactic.

So they are trying to break the siege peacefully by tunneling into their enemy's territory? How does that work?

^ By the logic of Islam.

 

[Mojo2]

Who are the terrorists?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_kiZmyasSm98GAdqKM

May I suggest a more salient question?

Who are the ones dedicated to using any means necessary (such as, although not limited to, TERRORISM...) in order to gain total religious, political and socio/economic mastery over all peoples, governments, legislations, institutions and forces on Earth?

See?

And certainly terrorism is a threat. But isn't the greater threat to a free world posed by the ideology behind the terrorism?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Bolivia says it clearly:

La Paz (AFP) - Bolivia on Wednesday renounced a visa exemption agreement with Israel in protest over its offensive in Gaza, and declared it a terrorist state.

President Evo Morales announced the move during a talk with a group of educators in the city of Cochabamba.

It "means, in other words, we are declaring (Israel) a terrorist state," he said.

The treaty has allowed Israelis to travel freely to Bolivia without a visa since 1972.

Morales said the Gaza offensive shows "that Israel is not a guarantor of the principles of respect for life and the elementary precepts of rights that govern the peaceful and harmonious coexistence of our international community."

More than two weeks of fighting in Gaza have left 1,300 dead and 6,000 wounded amid an intense Israeli air and ground campaign in response to missile attacks by the Islamist militant group Hamas.

In the latest development, 16 people were killed after two Israeli shells slammed into a United Nations school, drawing international protests.

Bolivia broke off diplomatic relations with Israel in 2009 over a previous military operation in Gaza.

In mid-July, Morales filed a request with the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights to prosecute Israel for "crimes against humanity."

news.yahoo.com/bolivia-declares-israel-terrorist-state-184920411.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory


South America is doing well.
Time for Europe to show its mettle.

Bolivia, hiders of nazis, what a surprise.

There are German WWII NAZIS still alive anywhere on the planet?

Bring up the holocost. The deniers..the miss counters of the victims.. Blame that on the dirt poor Palastinians too.

The bottom line is obviously that Jews believe they are more worthy of life than the wretched Palastinians.

Strangely enough most of the planet does not agree with your views.

Why is that? Is it because everyone in the world is the hiders of NAZIS?

You and yours give rise to the possible wish that before the world had rid itself of NAZIS that they had done a more thorough job of eliminating one of the more thoughtless and self serving groups of people in the world.

Someone with no dog in the fight might rightfully feel that the planet would be a safer and more just place if as most failed societies the Jews would have gone quietly into the night.

Maybe the ungratefull Jews should recognise that without for the kindness of the winners of WWII the Jews would have no country at all. WE(USA) and England didn't owe the Jews a damned thing.

Contrarily to reason and comon sense the Jews are vacant of a responsibility to the world and owe us proper stewardship of the country they were handed on a silver platter.

If for no other reason the Jews should be bent over backwards in efforts to accomodate the people that lived in and around the land they never earned.

The Jews have no such humility. If it could be revisited I'm sure the major players after WWII would have never entrusted the Jews to do the right thing.

What do you mean "never earned"? The area was a wasteland before the Jews arrived, as Mark Twain testifies to. Who drained the swamps? Who made the desert bloom? Who built the cities?

 

[LAfrique]

ter·ror·ism
noun

the killing of civilians as a means of furthering political or military goals.

If you landed on earth from another planet this week, knowing nothing other than the most common use of the word “terrorism,” which side do you think would most frequently be referred to as “terrorists”?​

But according to the sick, black is white, up is down, world of the pro-Israeli apologist...

...when Palestinians overwhelmingly kill soldiers (95% of the Israeli death toll) who are part of an army that is blockading, occupying, invading, and indiscriminately bombing them and killing their children by the hundreds, that is “terrorism”;​

and​

...when Israelis use massive, brutal force against a trapped civilian population, overwhelmingly killing innocent men, women and children (at least 75% of the Palestinian death toll), with clear intentions to kill civilians, that is noble “self-defense.” ​

And so goes this fucked up reality of the pro-Israeli crowd.

I do not know where you got your statistic, but the killing in Gaza has been and is about one (1) Israel killed by Palestine to one hundred (100) Palestinians killed by Israel. And the bombing of Palestine schools, Hospitals and water system by Israel are just solid evidence that Israel is nothing but pure evil.

Dynasty Israel, dating back to Bible days, has always been nomadic. I believe the history of Israel (Bible records included) is the history of social justice in its extremity. Landgrab is no way to establish home and dominate:

Palestine, Israel and God - Palestine, Israel and God - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com

 

[HUGGY]

Bolivia, hiders of nazis, what a surprise.

There are German WWII NAZIS still alive anywhere on the planet?

Bring up the holocost. The deniers..the miss counters of the victims.. Blame that on the dirt poor Palastinians too.

The bottom line is obviously that Jews believe they are more worthy of life than the wretched Palastinians.

Strangely enough most of the planet does not agree with your views.

Why is that? Is it because everyone in the world is the hiders of NAZIS?

You and yours give rise to the possible wish that before the world had rid itself of NAZIS that they had done a more thorough job of eliminating one of the more thoughtless and self serving groups of people in the world.

Someone with no dog in the fight might rightfully feel that the planet would be a safer and more just place if as most failed societies the Jews would have gone quietly into the night.

Maybe the ungratefull Jews should recognise that without for the kindness of the winners of WWII the Jews would have no country at all. WE(USA) and England didn't owe the Jews a damned thing.

Contrarily to reason and comon sense the Jews are vacant of a responsibility to the world and owe us proper stewardship of the country they were handed on a silver platter.

If for no other reason the Jews should be bent over backwards in efforts to accomodate the people that lived in and around the land they never earned.

The Jews have no such humility. If it could be revisited I'm sure the major players after WWII would have never entrusted the Jews to do the right thing.

What do you mean "never earned"? The area was a wasteland before the Jews arrived, as Mark Twain testifies to. Who drained the swamps? Who made the desert bloom? Who built the cities?

Mark Twain died April 21 1910.

He was not a witness to the misadventure of displacing a people in favor of a people that have shown no appreciation for the gesture.

For some reason the Jews believe they are OWED the land they occupy under the protective umbrella of the winners of WWII.

I think the powers that made it possible for Israel to exist should rescind the policy and give the land back to it's pre WWII habitants. The Jews have been horrible tenants of that land. Their stewardship has been the cause of much of the problem of that area. What the winners of WWII should have done is give sections of Germany, Austria and Poland to the Jews. Then at least they would be up against their betters as they attempt to land grab from native Germanic caucasians. At least then all the crying about NAZIS would have some merit.