Just to educate you guys, Trudeau didn't resign because of Trump, Fox News has embarrassed themselves

[ShahdagMountains]

But for sure Trudeau was having major problems and probably was weary dealing with them whether or not they were of his own making. I'm pretty sure it was no specific or single issue that caused him to throw in the towel.

The worst form of wokeism.

 

[sparky]

If Trump hits Canada with a tariff, Doug Fords career is finished since he openly threatened to withhold energy to the U.S. Ford is trying to pass this on to Trudeau because he knows Trump can end his career with a tariff.

Trump's tariff and annexation comments WERE a factor which is all that has been said.

rudeau had the unenviable task of convincing Trump to back off from his threats to impose high tariffs on Canadian imports and prevent a mutually-destructive trade war.

Trump is rethinking and softening his stance on the tariffs though he has been firm that he doesn't appreciate Canada allowing illegal bad actors enter the USA and that's what the tariffs were all about.

The influx of illegals across the Canadian border into the USofA has exponentially increased to the point of economic distress here

If Tariffs are they only way Canada will play nice, then i approve Trump's threat of them

~S~

 

[JGalt]

I call it as I see it. This has far less to do with Trump and more to do with the inevitable. I've seen Fox headlines suggesting Trump was responsible. LOL, I mean what are these guys smoking over there? This was in the works for many months and most thought he was going to step down even long before the U.S election. Now he may have held out for some hope if Harris won as he could try to promote some poorly timed climate initiative or something, but it would again, be a long shot at best.

Trump has had my support since 2016 but Trudeau lead the longest government in Canada history, nine years. If not for covid he might have even had lost an election that wouldn't have been called as early as it was and at a time when the world was in disarray.

Heading to see Trump as quick as he did was more out of a desperate Hail Mary knowing he was unpopular within his own party and across Canada. Trudeau and the Liberals have been underwater in the polls for about two years.

Give Trump credit for getting his intelligence briefing and knowing that J.T was soon going to be out, even if Trump said he can't wait to work with Trudeau, In fact, it may have even hurt him more.

His time to step down was in the cards for a very long time. Not even a close relationship with the U.S would have provided a lifeline for him.

Meanwhile in Mexico, just two weeks ahead of President-elect Donald Trump’s second inauguration, Mexico continues dissolving attention-grabbing migrant caravans and dispersing migrants throughout the country to keep them far from the U.S. border, while simultaneously limiting how many accumulate in any one place.

Totally not because of anything Trump said or did.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I'm not defending Fox News as they can stand on their own two feet so to speak, but I'm not finding where they are saying Trudeau is quitting because Trump is President. Is a Trump presidency a factor in his quitting? Perhaps but who knows? I do find several Fox commentaries listing Trudeau's woes and developing unpopularity over several years now., all unrelated to Trump.

And the resignation came after it was publicized that Trump is rethinking and softening his stance on the tariffs though he has been firm that he doesn't appreciate Canada allowing illegal bad actors enter the USA and that's what the tariffs were all about. I am assuming that he and Trudeau worked something out on that when they met. since the meeting was publicized as amicable.

But for sure Trudeau was having major problems and probably was weary dealing with them whether or not they were of his own making. I'm pretty sure it was no specific or single issue that caused him to throw in the towel.

My iniitial response.to his tariffs was "he is bluffing" Who knows. He does seem weaker and less committed.than in his first term, Musk is probably swaying him I dkn't know. Remember that iconic G7 photo where hs is sitting back, arms.folded as the leaders are surroiunding him with seeming discussion? That Trjmp seems absent for the most.part. As it were, Trudeau had become unpopular for his climate policies in parricuoar though policies in general,.this includes a carbon tax, excess spending, the trucker protest controversy, the online protection initiatives.which some view.as censorship, scandals such as a.conflict of interest.concern when he visited some wealthy guy named a few years.ago (I.dont.know all of the details), a green project corruption allegation where apparently millions were going to go to an illegitimate person and most importantly the recent resignation of Freeland. In fact, when Trump basicaly called.her out as she was not popular in the former.NAFTA negotiations, Canandian media said.this was a good response from.Trunp as it showed that she "was tough" in negotiations. Ultimately people just want a different direction after.9 years. He is the last holdout from.the original 2016 Trump G7 years.

 

[shockedcanadian]

The influx of illegals across the Canadian border into the USofA has exponentially increased to the point of economic distress here

If Tariffs are they only way Canada will play nice, then i approve Trump's threat of them

~S~

I said he was bluffing at the time though I could be wrong of course, Trump is nothing if not unpredictable which is what makes him formidable. Trudeau told Canada it is a real threat but Mexicos leader seemed unconvinced. Why was she so relaxed? She could have good sources in his circle perhaps. He may apply them just until the USMCA negotiations in 2026, I dont know, he hasn't taken office yet. His demeanor seems.to represent a departure.from his first term for sure. The donations from big tech for his inauguration are designed to achieve something, right?

 

[sparky]

My iniitial response.to his tariffs was "he is bluffing" Who knows. He does seem weaker and less committed.than in his first term, Musk is probably swaying him I dkn't know. Remember that iconic G7 photo where hs is sitting back, arms.folded as the leaders are surroiunding him with seeming discussion? That Trjmp seems absent for the most.part. As it were, Trudeau had become unpopular for his climate policies in parricuoar though policies in general,.this includes a carbon tax, excess spending, the trucker protest controversy, the online protection initiatives.which some view.as censorship, scandals such as a.conflict of interest.concern when he visited some wealthy guy named a few years.ago (I.dont.know all of the details), a green project corruption allegation where apparently millions were going to go to an illegitimate person and most importantly the recent resignation of Freeland. In fact, when Trump basicaly called.her out as she was not popular in the former.NAFTA negotiations, Canandian media said.this was a good response from.Trunp as it showed that she "was tough" in negotiations. Ultimately people just want a different direction after.9 years. He is the last holdout from.the original 2016 Trump G7 years.

Trump stood his ground @ G7 , because it was an illegitimate attempt of the green machine multilateral rape of world economics Shocked One

~S~

 

[shockedcanadian]

She resigned cause she was even more of a loon than him, correct?

From what I gather, she resigned because he overspent in his latest budget and she has designs of being leader so taking a more fiscally sound stance is popular at a time when all the polls suggest he is not. Her resignation hurts him most at a time when he is politically vulnerable as.his resignation confirmed.

 

[sparky]

I said he was bluffing at the time though I could be wrong of course, Trump is nothing if not unpredictable which is what makes him formidable. Trudeau told Canada it is a real threat but Mexicos leader seemed unconvinced. Why was she so relaxed? She could have good sources in his circle perhaps. He may apply them just until the USMCA negotiations in 2026, I dont know, he hasn't taken office yet. His demeanor seems.to represent a departure.from his first term for sure. The donations from big tech for his inauguration are designed to achieve something, right?

I'm not seeing any player relaxed here Shocked one , i'm seeing distress ~S~

 

[Foxfyre]

My iniitial response.to his tariffs was "he is bluffing" Who knows. He does seem weaker and less committed.than in his first term, Musk is probably swaying him I dkn't know. Remember that iconic G7 photo where hs is sitting back, arms.folded as the leaders are surroiunding him with seeming discussion? That Trjmp seems absent for the most.part. As it were, Trudeau had become unpopular for his climate policies in parricuoar though policies in general,.this includes a carbon tax, excess spending, the trucker protest controversy, the online protection initiatives.which some view.as censorship, scandals such as a.conflict of interest.concern when he visited some wealthy guy named a few years.ago (I.dont.know all of the details), a green project corruption allegation where apparently millions were going to go to an illegitimate person and most importantly the recent resignation of Freeland. In fact, when Trump basicaly called.her out as she was not popular in the former.NAFTA negotiations, Canandian media said.this was a good response from.Trunp as it showed that she "was tough" in negotiations. Ultimately people just want a different direction after.9 years. He is the last holdout from.the original 2016 Trump G7 years.

Interesting perspective. I don't see Trump as weaker at all but much stronger in his cabinet picks and in his policy initiatives. I think he gained a lifetime of experience in his first four years and is determined not to sidetrack his agenda with the same kinds of mistakes. He and Musk found themselves to be soulmates very quickly and the dishonest media is doing it's damndest to convince America and the world that Musk is running the show and Trump is little more than a puppet. Lately they are dishonestly trying to pretend Trump's staff is grumbling about it.

I think those who buy into that kind of propaganda malarky are way WAY far off the mark.

On the other hand, the MSM has little interest in the fate of Trudeau or even Canada for that matter, but when they try to make Trudeau and/or Canada's problems due to Trump, that too is way WAY off the mark. . .

. . .except. . .

That I think the world is for the first time really looking at the Trump agenda and many are for the first time looking beyond the character assassinations and thinking about that agenda as yes, that is what we should be doing too. And I think that is showing up in a cultural shift to the right and more common sense, people based conservative values.

If Trump was the catalyst for the rejection of wokeism, that alone would have been justification for voting for him.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

I call it as I see it. This has far less to do with Trump and more to do with the inevitable. I've seen Fox headlines suggesting Trump was responsible. LOL, I mean what are these guys smoking over there? This was in the works for many months and most thought he was going to step down even long before the U.S election. Now he may have held out for some hope if Harris won as he could try to promote some poorly timed climate initiative or something, but it would again, be a long shot at best.

Trump has had my support since 2016 but Trudeau lead the longest government in Canada history, nine years. If not for covid he might have even had lost an election that wouldn't have been called as early as it was and at a time when the world was in disarray.

Heading to see Trump as quick as he did was more out of a desperate Hail Mary knowing he was unpopular within his own party and across Canada. Trudeau and the Liberals have been underwater in the polls for about two years.

Give Trump credit for getting his intelligence briefing and knowing that J.T was soon going to be out, even if Trump said he can't wait to work with Trudeau, In fact, it may have even hurt him more.

His time to step down was in the cards for a very long time. Not even a close relationship with the U.S would have provided a lifeline for him.

Poilievre, Canada's next PM, says Trudeau was removed by the Lib establishment because he was very unpopular like Biden.

Very interesting to see Canada's politics so similar to the US. Poilievre is running on a "Canada First" agenda that mirror's Trump's agenda to a large extent -axe carbon taxes, close the border, fund police, restore freedom, etc.

 

[marvin martian]

I call it as I see it. This has far less to do with Trump and more to do with the inevitable. I've seen Fox headlines suggesting Trump was responsible. LOL, I mean what are these guys smoking over there? This was in the works for many months and most thought he was going to step down even long before the U.S election. Now he may have held out for some hope if Harris won as he could try to promote some poorly timed climate initiative or something, but it would again, be a long shot at best.

Trump has had my support since 2016 but Trudeau lead the longest government in Canada history, nine years. If not for covid he might have even had lost an election that wouldn't have been called as early as it was and at a time when the world was in disarray.

Heading to see Trump as quick as he did was more out of a desperate Hail Mary knowing he was unpopular within his own party and across Canada. Trudeau and the Liberals have been underwater in the polls for about two years.

Give Trump credit for getting his intelligence briefing and knowing that J.T was soon going to be out, even if Trump said he can't wait to work with Trudeau, In fact, it may have even hurt him more.

His time to step down was in the cards for a very long time. Not even a close relationship with the U.S would have provided a lifeline for him.

Do you think Poilievre has a chance?

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Do you think Poilievre has a chance?

I realize your question was not for me, but he's favored...

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[Unkotare]

Trudeau rose in politics because of his name and the fact that he won a boxing match. All a slow crash from there.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I call it as I see it. This has far less to do with Trump and more to do with the inevitable. I've seen Fox headlines suggesting Trump was responsible. LOL, I mean what are these guys smoking over there? This was in the works for many months and most thought he was going to step down even long before the U.S election. Now he may have held out for some hope if Harris won as he could try to promote some poorly timed climate initiative or something, but it would again, be a long shot at best.

Trump has had my support since 2016 but Trudeau lead the longest government in Canada history, nine years. If not for covid he might have even had lost an election that wouldn't have been called as early as it was and at a time when the world was in disarray.

Heading to see Trump as quick as he did was more out of a desperate Hail Mary knowing he was unpopular within his own party and across Canada. Trudeau and the Liberals have been underwater in the polls for about two years.

Give Trump credit for getting his intelligence briefing and knowing that J.T was soon going to be out, even if Trump said he can't wait to work with Trudeau, In fact, it may have even hurt him more.

His time to step down was in the cards for a very long time. Not even a close relationship with the U.S would have provided a lifeline for him.

You won't win, hero syndrome means Americans will put it all down to Trump.

Trudeau's government is on about a 16% approval rating, Poilievre is apparently on a 90% to 92% chance of winning the next election. Trudeau is simply bailing out to save face, so to him he left on a resignation with a "heroes" excuse as opposed to one of the worst defeats in Canadian history. So it's trying to find someone who wants that inevitable defeated position.

 

[shockedcanadian]

You won't win, hero syndrome means Americans will put it all down to Trump.

Trudeau's government is on about a 16% approval rating, Poilievre is apparently on a 90% to 92% chance of winning the next election. Trudeau is simply bailing out to save face, so to him he left on a resignation with a "heroes" excuse as opposed to one of the worst defeats in Canadian history. So it's trying to find someone who wants that inevitable defeated position.

Well, his party basically convinced him to move on. As polite as he seems in public, he is a shrewd politician who doesn't ever want to give up as he believes he can sell his vision to Canadians. He has been behind in the polls for a very long time so he should have really resigned some time ago. Freedland resigning was the final straw really.

He will still be PM for the next two months or so I believe.

Don't forget, his dad was one of the most consequential PMs in our history, he is responsible for our Charter of Rights and Freedoms, as much as it is disregarded by our nations police agencies. This along with Tommy Douglas who promoted Universal Healthcare (which Canadas RCMP tried to undermine him at the time viewing him as a communist as he may have been though the definition seems to have shifted in the years) are the two most sacred elements in our country.

 

[DonGlock26]