Just How Stupid Do They Think We Are?

The legalities of a President’s right to pardon aside, does it not bother you that he pardoned his son from anything he may have done going back to just before he started working at Burisma? Do you really think Hunter got that job for his skill set? Do you really think Joe wasn’t involved? Seriously?
Nope. The probably would not have gone after that dumbass, if not trying to get Joe. It is all a game. The right wanted this trial seen through for political benefit. OK. They got it. The wanted the Trump cases slowed down and not handled for political benefit. OK. They got that too. So now they are upset, that the trial was seen through, in time for Joe to pardon, after the election is over, and on his way out of office. So, it is constitutional, and an official act, so totally legal, as any official act, according to the Trump Supreme Court decision (although the ones that wanted it were too stupid to know it protected all Presidents, not just Trump), and not a thing to be done about it. Joe is outta here. I am getting a kick out of listening to the Trumpers whine about it. Grab some beer, popcorn and watch the fun.;)
 
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It doesn't matter anymore because he is pardoned. I wouldn't say I like it or the fact we have a felon in the White House and another one of Trump's family members(felon) who was pardoned by Trump and is now an Ambassador for the US, but there is no choice in the matter.

What do you mean it doesn't matter? Potential treason involving a sitting President doesn't matter? Somehow that would be equivalent to a Trump's ridiculous charges in NY? You guys are nuts.
 
Nope. The probably would not have gone after that dumbass, if not trying to get Joe. It is all a game. The right wanted this trial seen through for political benefit. OK. They got it. The wanted the Trump cases slowed down and not handled for political benefit. OK. They got that too. So now they are upset, that the trial was seen through, in time for Joe to pardon, after the election is over, and on his way out of office. So, it is constitutional, and an official act, to totally legal, as any official act, according to the Trump Supreme Court decision (although the ons that wanted it were too stupid to know it protected all Presidents, not just Trump), and not a thing to be done about it. Joe is outta here. I am getting a kick out of listening to the Trumpers whine about it. Grab some beer, popcorn and watch the fun.;)

So you don't care about potential treasonous activities? Gotcha.

Maybe you actually believe that it was all coincidental that Hunter was hired and paid handsomely by a Ukrainian energy company that was being investigated while his dad was special envoy to the Ukraine. That would explain why you voted for airhead Harris.
 
So you don't care about potential treasonous activities? Gotcha.

Maybe you actually believe that it was all coincidental that Hunter was hired and paid handsomely by a Ukrainian energy company that was being investigated while his dad was special envoy to the Ukraine. That would explain why you voted for airhead Harris.
Potential, my ass. Show your evidence, in court or in front of the Committee (since they couldn't find or settle for whining about on a message board.:auiqs.jpg:
 
Potential, my ass. Show your evidence, in court or in front of the Committee (since they couldn't find or settle for whining about on a message board.:auiqs.jpg:

Not with this DOJ.

You don't find Hunter's employment with Burisma the least bit fishy?
 
Not with this DOJ.

You don't find Hunter's employment with Burisma the least bit fishy?
The Republican controlled committee of the Republican controlled house, simply could not find evidence to even seek a referral to the DOJ, where I am sure, (if they could have found any evidence) any charges would have been investigated by Donald Trump's hand-picked, nominated and confirmed FBI Director Christopher A. Wray. After all, he hires only the best people. Right? :auiqs.jpg:
 
The Republican controlled committee of the Republican controlled house, simply could not find evidence to even seek a referral to the DOJ, where I am sure, (if they could have found any evidence) any charges would have been investigated by Donald Trump's hand-picked, nominated and confirmed FBI Director Christopher A. Wray. After all, he hires only the best people. Right? :auiqs.jpg:

You didn't answer my question. You honestly think Hunter being hired by Burisma during his dad's tenure as VP was just pure coincidence?
 
The opposite!
Trump stating he would pardon J6ers gave the opening to Biden.
Trump pardoning Stone, Bannon, Kushner, Manafort, Flynn....gave Biden the opening.

:laughing0301: Oh wait . . . you were serious! :auiqs.jpg:

Well, at least you waited for just the right thread to speak up and let us know how stupid you really think we are! :lmao:
 
You didn't answer my question. You honestly think Hunter being hired by Burisma during his dad's tenure as VP was just pure coincidence?
Why does it matter. You got evidence of wrongdoing, but just held out on the committee, wanting the Republicans to look like dumbasses, kind of like their Hillary investigation?
 
Why does it matter. You got evidence of wrongdoing, but just held out on the committee, wanting the Republicans to look like dumbasses, kind of like their Hillary investigation?
Everyone realizes that Joe and Hunter are crooked. Even many Democrats are upset that Joe pardoned his son.
 
Why does it matter.

What difference does it make, right?

Sorry, but real Americans who love this country don't so easily dismiss the potential of treason.

Burisma was as fishy as they come. If you are ok with that not being pursued, then your partisanship trumps your love of country.
 

Just How Stupid Do They Think We Are?

2 Dec 2024 ~~ By Stephen Green

The more I think about Joe Biden's pardon of his bagman/tax-cheat son, Hunter, the angrier I get — but maybe not for the reason you think.

As I'm sure you're well aware by now, père Biden's blanket pardon forgives all of Hunter's transgressions going back ten years, when father (then vice president) and son were both playing footsie with Vladimir Putin's old cronies in Kyiv. Burisma? Pardoned. Million-dollar tax evasion? Ditto. Gun offenses, all of it.
Then there's the Big Lie because it isn't Joe Biden without one.
"No reasonable person who looks at the facts of Hunter’s cases can reach any other conclusion than Hunter was singled out only because he is my son," Biden said in a statement on Sunday, "and that is wrong."
Oh, please. Hunter was guilty of far more than he was ever convicted of. The Biden DOJ dragged its feet and let the worst offenses slip under the statute of limitations and only brought him to court after whistleblowers blew up the DOJ's sweetheart plea deal. If Joe had gotten his way — and he nearly did — there would have been no need for pardon.
And as my colleague Matt Margolis wrote earlier today, the pardon was just as much about protecting père as it was about forgiving son — "it was about preventing exposure of the Biden crime family's influence-peddling schemes."
~Snip~
But here's the thing. The president's constitutional power to pardon for federal offenses is effectively unlimited. POTUS can pardon anyone for anything at any time and at his sole discretion. "He shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment," the Founders wrote. And that's that. So there's no sense in getting all upset about the Hunter Biden pardon, even though it's easily the most nepotistic and self-serving act in White House history — all wrapped in a shroud of lies about Trump.
~Snip~
Here are nine full minutes of KJP repeating Biden's lie that he wouldn't pardon Hunter — and, no, I don't expect you to watch the whole thing.

~Snip~
We weren't just assured that Biden would never do the thing we all knew he would, we were scolded for knowing that Biden would do the thing we all knew he would do.



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Meanwhile, the biased media is scrambling to justify this dual act of Nepotism and covering up of the Biden family crimes and treasonous acts against America.
Schiff may have been right when he attempted to stop Trump by introducing the Abuse of the Pardon Prevention Act.
Although it was specifically aimed at controlling Trump. It could have stopped Biden his butt today.
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In a way, Joe's action, pardoning his son, is a brilliant gift to Trump. It does two things:
1. Shows that Democrats — at least Biden — also believe the DoJ unfairly targets people for political reasons. Which is exactly what Trump has been saying!​
2. Provides cover for Trump to pardon individuals he thinks have been such targets, like the J6ers. And family members and friends for personal reasons, as well. (He would do this anyway, of course, but now it will cost him less political capital.)​
This may not be the end of it from Biden. I wouldn’t be surprised if on Jan 19th he issues a sweeping pardon for hundreds or thousands of people who he thinks may be a “target” of Trump. THAT will really open Pandora’s box.


Check these FAQ's out, Doc:


Presidents can't pardon state crimes, for instance.
 
If I were his son Hunter, I'd be pissed his dad didn't pardon him before Congress critters put him through the mud of daily harassment hearings and press conferences, and New York post October surprise laptop shown to the world that continued for four years etc etc etc, and spoiling his plea agreement, etc etc etc....

Why would Biden let Hunter go through all of that, if he really planned to pardon him? Why would a father allow his son to go through all of that...?

Seems, Biden really did have plans NOT to pardon him, but changed his mind....?
I don't think Biden had any intentions of pardoning Hunter, initially at least. But in consideration of the Supreme Court ruling that essentially gave Trump unlimited power and everything that is coming when he returns to office, perhaps Biden thought about all that Trump has already done and the destruction he has promised, figured that this something he could & should do for Hunter.

Maybe even to protect him from anything Trump may have had planned.
 
Everyone realizes that Joe and Hunter are crooked. Even many Democrats are upset that Joe pardoned his son.
You mean, everybody but the Republican House investigative committee that could not find enough evidence to write and forward a referral for prosecution? Grab crying towed dude.
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You mean, everybody but the Republican House investigative committee that could not find enough evidence to write and forward a referral for prosecution? Grab crying towed dude.
Hunter was convicted of tax evasion and would have also faced a firearms conviction.
 
What do you mean it doesn't matter? Potential treason involving a sitting President doesn't matter? Somehow that would be equivalent to a Trump's ridiculous charges in NY? You guys are nuts.
Presidents are immune..
 
Hunter was convicted of tax evasion and would have also faced a firearms conviction.
And then he was pardoned by Joe Biden, in December (final full Month of the year the President ends his term in office. Kind of like the December 2020 Pardons by Donald Trump, our President Elect. Let see, there was :
Nicholas Abram Slatten, Murder in the First Degree
Paul Alvin Slough,........... Voluntary Manslaughter, Attempted Manslaughter, using a firearm
Evan Shawn Liberty,........Voluntary Manslaughter, Attempted Manslaughter, using a firearm
Dustin Laurent Heard,....Voluntary Manslaughter, Attempted Manslaughter, using a firearm
Ignacio Ramos,.................Assault with a dangerous weapon, assault with serious bodily injury, ...............................................discharge of firearm in commission of a crime of violence
Jose Compean.................Assault with a dangerous weapon, assault with serious bodily injury, ...............................................discharge of firearm in commission of a crime of violence
Alfred Lee Crum..............Illegally Operating a Still
Alfonso Antonio Costa.Healthcare Fraud
Weldon Hal Angelos,....Possession with intent to distribute marijuana (five counts); Possession of Stolen firearm in futherance of Drug Trafficking(3 counts) Possession of Stolen Firearms (2 counts)
Otis Gordon,...................Sell, distribute, or dispense a controlled substance
Charles Kushner,...........Yes Jared's dad....Tax evasion, witness tampering, and making illegal .............................................campaign donations
Roger Stone....................Making false statements to Congress(five counts) Witness tampering,
.............................................Obstructing an official proceeding
Paul J. Manafort............Five counts of tax fraud, two counts of bank fraud, and one count of ............................................failing to disclose a hidden foreign bank account; two counts of ............................................conspiracy
James J. Kassouf,..........Making a False Tax Return
Christopher A Bryant,.Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
Cesar Agusto Lozada,.Conspiracy to distribute marijuana
Topeka Kimberly Sam.Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine hydrochloride
Russell Plaisance,.........Conspiracy to unlawfully import cocaine into the U.S.

Of course, this is just a few of the ones, the President Pardon, and only in the month of December 2020, just a view of his 237 pardons, compared with President Biden's 26 acts of executive clemency.

I could not find your outrage after the December 2020 Pardons, undoubtedly a search engine problem.:rolleyes:
 
Why does it matter. You got evidence of wrongdoing, but just held out on the committee, wanting the Republicans to look like dumbasses, kind of like their Hillary investigation?
Sort of hard to take your seriously on any claims of retaining classified documents when you say the Clinton investigation found nothing

Thanks for admitting the trump case was a political side show

If there was no wrong doing, xiden wouldn’t of given his son an unprecedented 10 year blanket pardon dating back to win he started taking money from a corrupt Ukrainian company
 

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