Just a clump of cells

[FA_Q2]

Abortion law is actually rather good these days - late term abortions are largely illegal (and that should be made universal IMHO) ...

They are sometimes necessary, brutal as they are, and they are.

Necessity is not at issue and never will be.

If something is medically nessisary it will be done - period. The only thing in question is optional abortions - the VAST majority of them.

So don't call for a universal ban, that means no exceptions.

Reading comprehension fail.

Don't make shit up.

 

[FA_Q2]

Some things that you want to think are your business are not. Early on it is the mothers call. If you don't like that then there is something wrong with YOU.

Until a fetus becomes a whole baby and is drawing breath at birth the mother has more rights. If you dispute that then you are a fool. You certainly don't have any rights in the case of a woman being pregnant and getting an abortion.

Stop acting like you have a say in someone else's private decisions.

Except we actually do - see above.

it is not a 'private' decision as it affect the life of another - actually ends it. At some point that life has a right to exist and the line is not when it takes it's first breath.

Actually you do not. Mind YOUR own business.

So you are going to ignore the fact that there are already laws against abortion that fall under the guidance in Roe.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Abortion law is actually rather good these days - late term abortions are largely illegal (and that should be made universal IMHO) ...

They are sometimes necessary, brutal as they are, and they are.

Necessity is not at issue and never will be.

If something is medically nessisary it will be done - period. The only thing in question is optional abortions - the VAST majority of them.

So don't call for a universal ban, that means no exceptions.

Reading comprehension fail.

Don't make shit up.

I'm not. You stated your opinion that you wanted all late-term abortions banned, hence the issue.

 

[FA_Q2]

Abortion law is actually rather good these days - late term abortions are largely illegal (and that should be made universal IMHO) ...

They are sometimes necessary, brutal as they are, and they are.

Necessity is not at issue and never will be.

If something is medically nessisary it will be done - period. The only thing in question is optional abortions - the VAST majority of them.

So don't call for a universal ban, that means no exceptions.

Reading comprehension fail.

Don't make shit up.

I'm not. You stated your opinion that you wanted all late-term abortions banned, hence the issue.

Hmmm...

Never used the term banned. I pointed to existing law and said that it should be universal.

Care to point to any single standing law that banns late term abortions that are medically necessary? Of course not. Going to admit that you did not read the statement correctly. I wonder.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

They are sometimes necessary, brutal as they are, and they are.

Necessity is not at issue and never will be.

If something is medically nessisary it will be done - period. The only thing in question is optional abortions - the VAST majority of them.

So don't call for a universal ban, that means no exceptions.

Reading comprehension fail.

Don't make shit up.

I'm not. You stated your opinion that you wanted all late-term abortions banned, hence the issue.

Hmmm...

Never used the term banned. I pointed to existing law and said that it should be universal.

Care to point to any single standing law that banns late term abortions that are medically necessary? Of course not. Going to admit that you did not read the statement correctly. I wonder.

Look, dumbass, "...late term abortions are largely illegal (and that should be made universal IMHO)." means a ban since you forgot to mention that there would be exceptions. Universally illegal means no exceptions, stupid.

 

[FA_Q2]

Necessity is not at issue and never will be.

If something is medically nessisary it will be done - period. The only thing in question is optional abortions - the VAST majority of them.

So don't call for a universal ban, that means no exceptions.

Reading comprehension fail.

Don't make shit up.

I'm not. You stated your opinion that you wanted all late-term abortions banned, hence the issue.

Hmmm...

Never used the term banned. I pointed to existing law and said that it should be universal.

Care to point to any single standing law that banns late term abortions that are medically necessary? Of course not. Going to admit that you did not read the statement correctly. I wonder.

Look, dumbass, "...late term abortions are largely illegal (and that should be made universal IMHO)." means a ban since you forgot to mention that there would be exceptions. Universally illegal means no exceptions, stupid.

Ill take that as a no.

Not surprised - insults are all that the trolls here have and you are chief among them. I am just impressed that you managed a few lucid posts. Carry on.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So don't call for a universal ban, that means no exceptions.

Reading comprehension fail.

Don't make shit up.

I'm not. You stated your opinion that you wanted all late-term abortions banned, hence the issue.

Hmmm...

Never used the term banned. I pointed to existing law and said that it should be universal.

Care to point to any single standing law that banns late term abortions that are medically necessary? Of course not. Going to admit that you did not read the statement correctly. I wonder.

Look, dumbass, "...late term abortions are largely illegal (and that should be made universal IMHO)." means a ban since you forgot to mention that there would be exceptions. Universally illegal means no exceptions, stupid.

Ill take that as a no.

Not surprised - insults are all that the trolls here have and you are chief among them. I am just impressed that you managed a few lucid posts. Carry on.

I can't help it if you can't write with clarity.

 

[AntiParty]

I'm going to be flatly blunt. The pro-Abortion crowd is dead wrong about human biology. A human is a human inside the womb and out. This video is proof of such. This is the unborn child of a French couple who watch in amazement at the vigorous movement of the baby in the womb. To say the child isn't viable while in the womb is wrong, simply put. To say the child is not a real person until after birth is also wrong, this one seems real enough to me.

Watching a discussion of science while thinking;

What would have happened if we took sex seriously instead of ignoring our sexual selves. Perhaps we would Ignore the child rapists that say birth control is BAD.

Perhaps we can use Science and Sociology to end unwanted pregnancy.

Abortion is just another topic where both parties are correct. Science can end the necessity for it yet the other end doesn't absorb Science.

I'll end with this. God had a LOT to do with Science. LOL. Or did he create it?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Science can end the necessity for it ...

Not true, sorry. Abortion is part of human reproduction. Even the best science we have can't fix that.

 

[sealybobo]

This will be difficult for you to understand but most of these little things, and they are teeny tiny, don't make it. Abortion doesn't bother nature, that's how she cleans up. Most of these will never see the light of day, regardless of induced abortion. At this stage, potential humans really are just clumps of cells.

Life isn't so precious to atheists and most theists that abortion should be made illegal. Only extreme theists think abortion should be illegal.

Ask most christians if a welfare mom with 5 kids should have a 6th or snip suck.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm going to be flatly blunt. The pro-Abortion crowd is dead wrong about human biology. A human is a human inside the womb and out. This video is proof of such. This is the unborn child of a French couple who watch in amazement at the vigorous movement of the baby in the womb. To say the child isn't viable while in the womb is wrong, simply put. To say the child is not a real person until after birth is also wrong, this one seems real enough to me.

Watching a discussion of science while thinking;

What would have happened if we took sex seriously instead of ignoring our sexual selves. Perhaps we would Ignore the child rapists that say birth control is BAD.

Perhaps we can use Science and Sociology to end unwanted pregnancy.

Abortion is just another topic where both parties are correct. Science can end the necessity for it yet the other end doesn't absorb Science.

I'll end with this. God had a LOT to do with Science. LOL. Or did he create it?

Great point. Instead of promoting IUD s and birth control that would lower the number of abortions and welfare and crime they are anti birth control.

 

[Dragonlady]

The purpose of banning abortion isn't to save the lives of the unborn, but to discourage women from having sex.

 

[BULLDOG]

I'm going to be flatly blunt. The pro-Abortion crowd is dead wrong about human biology. A human is a human inside the womb and out. This video is proof of such. This is the unborn child of a French couple who watch in amazement at the vigorous movement of the baby in the womb. To say the child isn't viable while in the womb is wrong, simply put. To say the child is not a real person until after birth is also wrong, this one seems real enough to me.

You know that is not what the right to chose is advocating. Why do you always have to be so dishonest?

 

[I.P.Freely]

How can liberals condemn ISIS beheadings?

After all, they're nothing more than extra-late term abortions.

Nah its wrong because their heads had exited the vagina.

 

[I.P.Freely]

The purpose of banning abortion isn't to save the lives of the unborn, but to discourage women from having sex.

drivel

 

[I.P.Freely]

Support for abortion took a big hit once 4d ultrasound was developed. That's why it isn't nearly as popular as it was.

it is in Israel Israel s abortion law now among world s most liberal The Times of Israel

 

[Clementine]

Dude. You can't go the science route with these people. They don't give a shit about science. They give a shit about what their ideology and peers say is ethical and taking the position most likely to earn them praise from their peers. You have to appeal to their own values if you want to reach them at all. Anything else is going to provoke a sneering contest at best.

That's laughable. It's the left who can't comprehend science when it comes to the medical field. I remember lefties being up in arms because they claimed Republicans were saying it was a baby two weeks before conception. Turns out they couldn't understand how a doctor determined the gestational age of a fetus and that is what the article was about. They still don't like doctors being so cautious about abortions, wanting all the tests done beforehand and all. They think of abortion as a manicure, even late stage abortion. They'd prefer the doctor proceed without any preparation. Heck, they want non-physicians to take over abortion procedures so we can have even more of them. And forget that safety shit, like being a reasonable distance from a hospital when something goes wrong. I posted a thread not long ago regarding the lack of oversight and inspections of abortion clinics. The left wanted legal abortion to end the back alley abortions and now they pretty much want to go back to that.

Try messing with an eagle's egg and you'll be in big trouble. It's just an egg, a nothing, right? But of course we know that destroying it means ultimately destroying an eagle.

There are too damn many abortions and the left prefers that over people being responsible. It gets worse every year.

 

[Dragonlady]

The purpose of banning abortion isn't to save the lives of the unborn, but to discourage women from having sex.

drivel

Why would you want to force a woman to bear and raise a child she doesn't want and can't afford? That's hardly a way of ensuring the child will have a good life. And yet that's what banning abortions would do.

Countries with sex education in schools, single payer health care and mandated paid maternity leaves have much lower abortion rates than the US and yet Americans steadfastly resist such legislation as impugning their "freedoms".

These same freedom fighters are the ones who would ban a woman's right to choose. Apparently right wingers CAN suck and blow at the same time.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Dude. You can't go the science route with these people. They don't give a shit about science. They give a shit about what their ideology and peers say is ethical and taking the position most likely to earn them praise from their peers. You have to appeal to their own values if you want to reach them at all. Anything else is going to provoke a sneering contest at best.

That's laughable. It's the left who can't comprehend science when it comes to the medical field. I remember lefties being up in arms because they claimed Republicans were saying it was a baby two weeks before conception. Turns out they couldn't understand how a doctor determined the gestational age of a fetus and that is what the article was about. They still don't like doctors being so cautious about abortions, wanting all the tests done beforehand and all. They think of abortion as a manicure, even late stage abortion. They'd prefer the doctor proceed without any preparation. Heck, they want non-physicians to take over abortion procedures so we can have even more of them. And forget that safety shit, like being a reasonable distance from a hospital when something goes wrong. I posted a thread not long ago regarding the lack of oversight and inspections of abortion clinics. The left wanted legal abortion to end the back alley abortions and now they pretty much want to go back to that.

Try messing with an eagle's egg and you'll be in big trouble. It's just an egg, a nothing, right? But of course we know that destroying it means ultimately destroying an eagle.

There are too damn many abortions and the left prefers that over people being responsible. It gets worse every year.

What's not laughable is the contempt you and most others on the right have for individual liberty, how you seek to expand the size and authority of government at the expense of that individual liberty, and how most conservatives are comfortable with the notion of government deciding when life begins, instead of the individual in accordance with his own good conscience.

 

[I.P.Freely]

The purpose of banning abortion isn't to save the lives of the unborn, but to discourage women from having sex.

drivel

Why would you want to force a woman to bear and raise a child she doesn't want and can't afford? That's hardly a way of ensuring the child will have a good life. And yet that's what banning abortions would do.

Countries with sex education in schools, single payer health care and mandated paid maternity leaves have much lower abortion rates than the US and yet Americans steadfastly resist such legislation as impugning their "freedoms".

These same freedom fighters are the ones who would ban a woman's right to choose. Apparently right wingers CAN suck and blow at the same time.

you are a complete snotbrain, I am very pro abortion, but your claim that banning abortions is to discourage women from having sex is just a complete load of old bollocks.