Junk science'? Studies behind Obama regulations under fire

[mamooth]

So you decided not to read the link and just spout opinions

But your link was just opinions. That's the point. All you have is paid shills for polluters making up propaganda.

For example, this:

“EPA regulations are based on secret data developed in the 1990s,” Steve Milloy, who served on President Trump’s EPA transition team, told Fox News. “For the EPA, coming up with cherry-picked data is standard operating procedure.”

That's cult propaganda. It's something the Trump admin faked and sent to FOX News to feed to the Useful Idiots. And you fell for it. You always do.

And this:

In October, EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt issued a directive to ensure that individuals serving on EPA advisory committees don’t get EPA grants and are free from potential conflicts of interest.

So, the Trump EPA just banned anyone with knowledge of science from working with the EPA. Only political hacks with no experience now need apply. Such a good Stalinists you and the Trumpflakes are, in the way you now demand all science reflect the wishes of TheParty.

 

[skookerasbil]

lol.......only the hopelessly duped think the EPA is about the environment. The same people have no clue how bureaucracies work.

The Rise of the Bureaucratic State

 

[Old Rocks]

Yeah the pesticide reversal was a huge win for Monsanto. Nobody knows what their chemicals do to you, but it really helps the bottom line. Everything else is what you'd expect from the GOP war on science.

So you decided not to read the link and just spout opinions?


I thought you guys said their was. no war on coal? God damn they tried to destroy an industry based on a study they couldn't release?

Translation ~ Obama's EPA made shit up ..


From.the link ...



Harvard Study

The Obama administration’s EPA used the 1993 Harvard Six Cities Study to justify air quality regulations on particulate matter, or particles of pollution in the air. The regulations—linked to devastating the coal industry—also affect automobiles, power plants and factories.

In 2013 the House Science, Space and Technology Committee subpoenaed the EPA for data from the study, which links particulate air pollution to infant mortality.

'The American people should be confident that when agencies regulate, they rely on up-to-date, accurate, and unbiased information.'

- Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla.
But in 2014, then-EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy told the committee the agency couldn’t produce either the Harvard study or information from a 1994 American Cancer Society study—claiming the EPA didn’t own the information.

The regulations are not what is devastating the coal industry. Cheap natural gas, and the fact that now both wind and solar produce electricity cheaper by the kilowatt than even dirty coal does. In other words, simple economics. As far as the health affects of air pollution;

AMA on Air Pollution

It is important that people understand that air pollution can affect not only the lungs, but virtually every organ and system in the body," said John Kimball Scott, an otolaryngologist and president-elect of NAPE, who served as floor manager of the AMA resolution, in a press release announcing its passage. The report emphasizes the need for more research and public education on the consequences of air pollution. "There is no question that air pollution can be a serious public health hazard and that prevention of air pollution will lead to disease prevention," says the report.

Doctors and the Environment
"Pollution prevention is disease prevention" is the theme of the National Association of Physicians for the Environment (NAPE), founded in 1992 to help physicians and medical specialty organizations examine the impacts of environmental pollutants on health; educate physicians, patients, and the public about these impacts; and work for the reduction or elimination of
environmental pollutants. NAPE also works to involve physicians in global environmental issues such as biological diversity."" Airing the Word on Pollution

According to the conference summary, published 20 September 1995, air pollutants can enter the body through various ways--not just by inhalation. They can be absorbed through the skin or ingested by eating food or drinking water that has been contaminated, possibly through bioaccumulation in the food chain. The pollutants in food and water that humans and animals are most likely to be exposed to include pesticides, PCBs, dioxin, and heavy metals such as cadmium, lead, and mercury, says the report. Such pollutants can cause a variety of adverse health effects including respiratory ailments, damage to the blood system leading to anemia or leukemia, heart disease, including hypertension and cardiac arrhythmias, and damage to the urogenital system resulting in kidney disease, bladder cancer, and reproductive problems. In addition, the skeletal system stores heavy metals such as lead that may accumulate over time. During times of bone loss such as pregnancy, lactation, or osteoporosis, the stored toxins may be released back into the body causing health problems, especially in women, newborn children, and senior citizens.

 

[Old Rocks]

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If you had seen the Ohio river in the early 1970's you would under stand why there is an EPA you dumb fuck. No, there is no such thing as poison, right? Company owners will not cause physical harm to you in the name of profit right? Wanna tell me that tobacco is good for me?

Is this 1970 you dumb fuck Obama abused the fuck out of the EPA as a tool to hurt economic growth , to hurt jobs


And did you see Obama's EPA river ?



View attachment 168014

Exactly what makes your picture on the right Obamas river. Other than some one labling them so. Do companies make things that are hazardous to our health? No it is not 1970 our rivers are cleaner than they were due to the EPA and regulations. Are you saying we need no regulations to protect us from chemicals made by business. We remove all regulations and what do you suppose will happen to our rivers. You can take your pictures and shove them up your fucking ass. They prove nothing.,

And who the fuck said anything about removing all the rules and regulations? We can't let presidents use the EPA as a tool to further their political agenda like Obama did and slow down the economy


And my picture proves your an ignorant fool who has no business discussing this topic untill you bother to research it


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A contractor made a mistake in trying to prevent exactly what happened. Had they not been trying to prevent that, it would have happened, in any case. Yes, they made a mistake, and it cost everyone along the river. But it was not done on purpose as the pollution that you and the treasonous fat senile old orange clown want to put into our waters and air is.

I find it so strange that people like you support pedophiles and pollution that will adversely affect all our children.

 

[Old Rocks]

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If you had seen the Ohio river in the early 1970's you would under stand why there is an EPA you dumb fuck. No, there is no such thing as poison, right? Company owners will not cause physical harm to you in the name of profit right? Wanna tell me that tobacco is good for me?

Is this 1970 you dumb fuck Obama abused the fuck out of the EPA as a tool to hurt economic growth , to hurt jobs


And did you see Obama's EPA river ?



View attachment 168014

Exactly what makes your picture on the right Obamas river. Other than some one labling them so. Do companies make things that are hazardous to our health? No it is not 1970 our rivers are cleaner than they were due to the EPA and regulations. Are you saying we need no regulations to protect us from chemicals made by business. We remove all regulations and what do you suppose will happen to our rivers. You can take your pictures and shove them up your fucking ass. They prove nothing.,

Say what you know about the Ohio River but you play ignorant to the Obama's EPA Animas river mess?
EPA spill turns Animas River in Colorado a toxic orange - CNN

Why do people like you post here you have no desire to learn the truth and facts about something, much less have any knowledge on news and current events .and once again Obama used the EPA as a weapon against jobs ..and company's and you have no problem with him doing it?

He produced a shit load of useless regulations and rules based on cherry picked junk science.

Fact



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You would not know facts if they bit you in the ass. You are bone ignorant concerning science, and read and listen only to people as ignorant as yourself.

 

[Wyatt earp]

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If you had seen the Ohio river in the early 1970's you would under stand why there is an EPA you dumb fuck. No, there is no such thing as poison, right? Company owners will not cause physical harm to you in the name of profit right? Wanna tell me that tobacco is good for me?

Is this 1970 you dumb fuck Obama abused the fuck out of the EPA as a tool to hurt economic growth , to hurt jobs


And did you see Obama's EPA river ?



View attachment 168014

Exactly what makes your picture on the right Obamas river. Other than some one labling them so. Do companies make things that are hazardous to our health? No it is not 1970 our rivers are cleaner than they were due to the EPA and regulations. Are you saying we need no regulations to protect us from chemicals made by business. We remove all regulations and what do you suppose will happen to our rivers. You can take your pictures and shove them up your fucking ass. They prove nothing.,

And who the fuck said anything about removing all the rules and regulations? We can't let presidents use the EPA as a tool to further their political agenda like Obama did and slow down the economy


And my picture proves your an ignorant fool who has no business discussing this topic untill you bother to research it


View attachment 168019




.

A contractor made a mistake in trying to prevent exactly what happened. Had they not been trying to prevent that, it would have happened, in any case. Yes, they made a mistake, and it cost everyone along the river. But it was not done on purpose as the pollution that you and the treasonous fat senile old orange clown want to put into our waters and air is.

I find it so strange that people like you support pedophiles and pollution that will adversely affect all our children.

It's kind of hard to talk to some one anti science who doesn't even know the scientific term.for a pedophile is ....


And thats not the point did or did not Obama's EPA cause that disaster that killed 50,600 fish , 28 deer , 6 bears , 250 rabbits, 92 squirrels , 3 owls and a partridge in a pear tree....

 

[Wyatt earp]

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If you had seen the Ohio river in the early 1970's you would under stand why there is an EPA you dumb fuck. No, there is no such thing as poison, right? Company owners will not cause physical harm to you in the name of profit right? Wanna tell me that tobacco is good for me?

Is this 1970 you dumb fuck Obama abused the fuck out of the EPA as a tool to hurt economic growth , to hurt jobs


And did you see Obama's EPA river ?



View attachment 168014

Exactly what makes your picture on the right Obamas river. Other than some one labling them so. Do companies make things that are hazardous to our health? No it is not 1970 our rivers are cleaner than they were due to the EPA and regulations. Are you saying we need no regulations to protect us from chemicals made by business. We remove all regulations and what do you suppose will happen to our rivers. You can take your pictures and shove them up your fucking ass. They prove nothing.,

Say what you know about the Ohio River but you play ignorant to the Obama's EPA Animas river mess?
EPA spill turns Animas River in Colorado a toxic orange - CNN

Why do people like you post here you have no desire to learn the truth and facts about something, much less have any knowledge on news and current events .and once again Obama used the EPA as a weapon against jobs ..and company's and you have no problem with him doing it?

He produced a shit load of useless regulations and rules based on cherry picked junk science.

Fact



View attachment 168017

You would not know facts if they bit you in the ass. You are bone ignorant concerning science, and read and listen only to people as ignorant as yourself.

Oh I know facts I strive for facts some God damn piss ass study from cluster fuck Universitie says polypropylene causes climate change you and that fuck head Obama would try to ban 30% of the plastic in the world




Read my link Obama abused the EPA and use it as a weapon .


He cherry picked the study's ...

 

[Wyatt earp]

Yeah the pesticide reversal was a huge win for Monsanto. Nobody knows what their chemicals do to you, but it really helps the bottom line. Everything else is what you'd expect from the GOP war on science.

So you decided not to read the link and just spout opinions?


I thought you guys said their was. no war on coal? God damn they tried to destroy an industry based on a study they couldn't release?

Translation ~ Obama's EPA made shit up ..


From.the link ...



Harvard Study

The Obama administration’s EPA used the 1993 Harvard Six Cities Study to justify air quality regulations on particulate matter, or particles of pollution in the air. The regulations—linked to devastating the coal industry—also affect automobiles, power plants and factories.

In 2013 the House Science, Space and Technology Committee subpoenaed the EPA for data from the study, which links particulate air pollution to infant mortality.

'The American people should be confident that when agencies regulate, they rely on up-to-date, accurate, and unbiased information.'

- Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla.
But in 2014, then-EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy told the committee the agency couldn’t produce either the Harvard study or information from a 1994 American Cancer Society study—claiming the EPA didn’t own the information.

The regulations are not what is devastating the coal industry. Cheap natural gas, and the fact that now both wind and solar produce electricity cheaper by the kilowatt than even dirty coal does. In other words, simple economics. As far as the health affects of air pollution;

AMA on Air Pollution

It is important that people understand that air pollution can affect not only the lungs, but virtually every organ and system in the body," said John Kimball Scott, an otolaryngologist and president-elect of NAPE, who served as floor manager of the AMA resolution, in a press release announcing its passage. The report emphasizes the need for more research and public education on the consequences of air pollution. "There is no question that air pollution can be a serious public health hazard and that prevention of air pollution will lead to disease prevention," says the report.

Doctors and the Environment
"Pollution prevention is disease prevention" is the theme of the National Association of Physicians for the Environment (NAPE), founded in 1992 to help physicians and medical specialty organizations examine the impacts of environmental pollutants on health; educate physicians, patients, and the public about these impacts; and work for the reduction or elimination of
environmental pollutants. NAPE also works to involve physicians in global environmental issues such as biological diversity."" Airing the Word on Pollution

According to the conference summary, published 20 September 1995, air pollutants can enter the body through various ways--not just by inhalation. They can be absorbed through the skin or ingested by eating food or drinking water that has been contaminated, possibly through bioaccumulation in the food chain. The pollutants in food and water that humans and animals are most likely to be exposed to include pesticides, PCBs, dioxin, and heavy metals such as cadmium, lead, and mercury, says the report. Such pollutants can cause a variety of adverse health effects including respiratory ailments, damage to the blood system leading to anemia or leukemia, heart disease, including hypertension and cardiac arrhythmias, and damage to the urogenital system resulting in kidney disease, bladder cancer, and reproductive problems. In addition, the skeletal system stores heavy metals such as lead that may accumulate over time. During times of bone loss such as pregnancy, lactation, or osteoporosis, the stored toxins may be released back into the body causing health problems, especially in women, newborn children, and senior citizens.

Your post means shit , they took an obsecure study from Harvard that won't even release to destroy the coal industry with costly rules and regulations ...


That's junk science ...


You need multiple study's , multiple hearings to way the pros and cons of public safety and economic interest to make vaild like laws and regulations..




Not some God damn knee jerk reactions to fast track and kill thousands of jobs .

 

[Coyote]

So this is how the EPA does it for rules and regulations, they cherry pick the science..

Who would of thought



Junk science'? Studies behind Obama regulations under fire



Scientific studies used by the Obama administration to help justify tough environmental regulations are coming under intensifying scrutiny, with critics questioning their merit as the Trump EPA reverses or delays some of those rules.


In one case, agencies determined the research used to prop up a ban on a pesticide was questionable. On another front, the Environmental Protection Agency never complied with a congressional subpoena for the data used to justify most Obama administration air quality rules.

“EPA regulations are based on secret data developed in the 1990s,” Steve Milloy, who served on President Trump’s EPA transition team, told Fox News. “For the EPA, coming up with cherry-picked data is standard operating procedure.”

Milloy, author of “Scare Pollution: Why and How to Fix the EPA,” was previously a lawyer for the Securities and Exchange Commission and is among critics who accuse federal agencies of carefully selecting scientific research to fit a political agenda.

'Junk science'? Studies behind Obama regulations under fire


In October, EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt issued a directive to ensure that individuals serving on EPA advisory committees don’t get EPA grants and are free from potential conflicts of interest.

“Whatever science comes out of EPA, shouldn’t be political science,” Pruitt said in a statement. “From this day forward, EPA advisory committee members will be financially independent from the agency.”

Fox News.

 

[Billy_Bob]

If you had seen the Ohio river in the early 1970's you would under stand why there is an EPA you dumb fuck. No, there is no such thing as poison, right? Company owners will not cause physical harm to you in the name of profit right? Wanna tell me that tobacco is good for me?

Is this 1970 you dumb fuck Obama abused the fuck out of the EPA as a tool to hurt economic growth , to hurt jobs


And did you see Obama's EPA river ?



View attachment 168014

Exactly what makes your picture on the right Obamas river. Other than some one labling them so. Do companies make things that are hazardous to our health? No it is not 1970 our rivers are cleaner than they were due to the EPA and regulations. Are you saying we need no regulations to protect us from chemicals made by business. We remove all regulations and what do you suppose will happen to our rivers. You can take your pictures and shove them up your fucking ass. They prove nothing.,

Say what you know about the Ohio River but you play ignorant to the Obama's EPA Animas river mess?
EPA spill turns Animas River in Colorado a toxic orange - CNN

Why do people like you post here you have no desire to learn the truth and facts about something, much less have any knowledge on news and current events .and once again Obama used the EPA as a weapon against jobs ..and company's and you have no problem with him doing it?

He produced a shit load of useless regulations and rules based on cherry picked junk science.

Fact



View attachment 168017

You would not know facts if they bit you in the ass. You are bone ignorant concerning science, and read and listen only to people as ignorant as yourself.

Oh I know facts I strive for facts some God damn piss ass study from cluster fuck Universitie says polypropylene causes climate change you and that fuck head Obama would try to ban 30% of the plastic in the world




Read my link Obama abused the EPA and use it as a weapon .


He cherry picked the study's ...

Not only did they cherry pick studies they used UNCONFIRMED MODELS that when empirically tested failed. They have no predictive skill and miss the mark by greater than 2 standard deviations inside one year and outside 5 standard deviations in less than 10 years..

They were using made up crap to inflict as much damage on the US as possible. Obama and the Alarmists are traitors who are actively trying to subvert the US Constitution by any means. That is why they are squealing like stuck pigs now that all modeling must go through empirical review and verification before they can be used for policy decisions. Pruitt is making great strides in rooting out the garbage they were using as credible science and showing it for the failure it is.

I have asked repeatedly for the alarmists to put up the empirical reviews of their scientists and their modeling but they refuse... (We know it was never done) Most, if not all, of their policies regarding CO2 are based on fantasy.

 

[Wyatt earp]

So this is how the EPA does it for rules and regulations, they cherry pick the science..

Who would of thought



Junk science'? Studies behind Obama regulations under fire



Scientific studies used by the Obama administration to help justify tough environmental regulations are coming under intensifying scrutiny, with critics questioning their merit as the Trump EPA reverses or delays some of those rules.


In one case, agencies determined the research used to prop up a ban on a pesticide was questionable. On another front, the Environmental Protection Agency never complied with a congressional subpoena for the data used to justify most Obama administration air quality rules.

“EPA regulations are based on secret data developed in the 1990s,” Steve Milloy, who served on President Trump’s EPA transition team, told Fox News. “For the EPA, coming up with cherry-picked data is standard operating procedure.”

Milloy, author of “Scare Pollution: Why and How to Fix the EPA,” was previously a lawyer for the Securities and Exchange Commission and is among critics who accuse federal agencies of carefully selecting scientific research to fit a political agenda.

'Junk science'? Studies behind Obama regulations under fire


In October, EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt issued a directive to ensure that individuals serving on EPA advisory committees don’t get EPA grants and are free from potential conflicts of interest.

“Whatever science comes out of EPA, shouldn’t be political science,” Pruitt said in a statement. “From this day forward, EPA advisory committee members will be financially independent from the agency.”

Fox News.

Proves what? do we have a guy who is the head of the EPA who is killing Obama's past rules and doctrine.

And for you to say that make me think you know what we all know all along

 

[Wyatt earp]

So you decided not to read the link and just spout opinions

But your link was just opinions. That's the point. All you have is paid shills for polluters making up propaganda.

For example, this:

“EPA regulations are based on secret data developed in the 1990s,” Steve Milloy, who served on President Trump’s EPA transition team, told Fox News. “For the EPA, coming up with cherry-picked data is standard operating procedure.”

That's cult propaganda. It's something the Trump admin faked and sent to FOX News to feed to the Useful Idiots. And you fell for it. You always do.

And this:

In October, EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt issued a directive to ensure that individuals serving on EPA advisory committees don’t get EPA grants and are free from potential conflicts of interest.

So, the Trump EPA just banned anyone with knowledge of science from working with the EPA. Only political hacks with no experience now need apply. Such a good Stalinists you and the Trumpflakes are, in the way you now demand all science reflect the wishes of TheParty.

I just seen this does this make you an old rocks cry? Funny as heck

EPA Staffers Are Being Forced to Prioritize Energy Industry’s Wish List, Says Official Who Resigned in Protest



EPA STAFFERS ARE BEING FORCED TO PRIORITIZE ENERGY INDUSTRY’S WISH LIST, SAYS OFFICIAL WHO RESIGNED IN PROTEST




Scott Pruitt began to wage war on environmental regulation as soon as he was appointed in February. Among the more than 30 rules and policies he has targeted for delays or elimination since then are the Clean Power Plan, the methane rule, the Waters of the U.S. rule, and a proposed ban of the pesticide chlorpyrifos.

Southerland clarified that this first round of regulatory rollbacks represents only a fraction of the rules the EPA staff is now being asked to evaluate. “These 30 are just the ones that the oil and gas and pesticide people asked for up front,” said Southerland, who described the companies and industry groups that requested these initial changes as having “their own special deal.”

The full range of proposed rollbacks will become apparent in September, when the EPA and other agencies are required to report back on their assessments of regulation. In the meantime, the staff of the EPA is spending their time considering how to dismantle the policies they have helped create — a process that’s both time consuming and extremely

 

[Coyote]

So this is how the EPA does it for rules and regulations, they cherry pick the science..

Who would of thought



Junk science'? Studies behind Obama regulations under fire



Scientific studies used by the Obama administration to help justify tough environmental regulations are coming under intensifying scrutiny, with critics questioning their merit as the Trump EPA reverses or delays some of those rules.


In one case, agencies determined the research used to prop up a ban on a pesticide was questionable. On another front, the Environmental Protection Agency never complied with a congressional subpoena for the data used to justify most Obama administration air quality rules.

“EPA regulations are based on secret data developed in the 1990s,” Steve Milloy, who served on President Trump’s EPA transition team, told Fox News. “For the EPA, coming up with cherry-picked data is standard operating procedure.”

Milloy, author of “Scare Pollution: Why and How to Fix the EPA,” was previously a lawyer for the Securities and Exchange Commission and is among critics who accuse federal agencies of carefully selecting scientific research to fit a political agenda.

'Junk science'? Studies behind Obama regulations under fire


In October, EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt issued a directive to ensure that individuals serving on EPA advisory committees don’t get EPA grants and are free from potential conflicts of interest.

“Whatever science comes out of EPA, shouldn’t be political science,” Pruitt said in a statement. “From this day forward, EPA advisory committee members will be financially independent from the agency.”

Fox News.

Proves what? do we have a guy who is the head of the EPA who is killing Obama's past rules and doctrine.

And for you to say that make me think you know what we all know all along

I no longer trust much from Fox News.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Lol.i am liking Pruitt more and more he is going to make the AGW cult head explode




One theme they expressed is that carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels should no longer be considered a pollutant but instead an essential ingredient in maintaining a global population boom. They described potentially catastrophic impacts of human-caused warming as "alarmism."

 

[Wyatt earp]

Lol.i am liking Pruitt more and more he is going to make the AGW cult head explode




One theme they expressed is that carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels should no longer be considered a pollutant but instead an essential ingredient in maintaining a global population boom. They described potentially catastrophic impacts of human-caused warming as "alarmism."

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Oh yeah the link

POLITICS: Pruitt 'guaranteeing' debate on climate science soon



They're laying groundwork for it, they want to do this red, blue study, debate on science before we get there," Murray said of the endangerment finding. "I said, 'You need to get it done; if you don't get it repealed, you're going to have this climate agenda forever. It needs to be repealed.'"

Murray added of Pruitt: "He's not guaranteeing me. He's guaranteeing to do the red-blue climate debate and then go from there."

The Trump administration has been aggressive in its efforts to rescind policies restricting greenhouse gases. It's working to reverse the Clean Power Plan, which sought to cut power-sector emissions 32 percent by 2030, and President Trump has announced a withdrawal from the global Paris climate accord.

*Snip*

The researchers, all of whom are possible candidates for the red team, attacked the findings of mainstream science that humans are the primary cause of climate change. They criticized climate models, laughed at former Vice President Al Gore's advocacy and portrayed the vast majority of colleagues in their field who disagree with them as "alarmists."

The "smoking gun" that could undo the endangerment finding is to find flaws in the climate models, said Pat Michaels, director of the Center for the Study of Science at the Cato Institute. He said yesterday's panel is a prelude to the red team and an attack against the endangerment determination. He cautioned EPA against using researchers with extreme positions.

 

[Wyatt earp]

So this is how the EPA does it for rules and regulations, they cherry pick the science..

Who would of thought



Junk science'? Studies behind Obama regulations under fire



Scientific studies used by the Obama administration to help justify tough environmental regulations are coming under intensifying scrutiny, with critics questioning their merit as the Trump EPA reverses or delays some of those rules.


In one case, agencies determined the research used to prop up a ban on a pesticide was questionable. On another front, the Environmental Protection Agency never complied with a congressional subpoena for the data used to justify most Obama administration air quality rules.

“EPA regulations are based on secret data developed in the 1990s,” Steve Milloy, who served on President Trump’s EPA transition team, told Fox News. “For the EPA, coming up with cherry-picked data is standard operating procedure.”

Milloy, author of “Scare Pollution: Why and How to Fix the EPA,” was previously a lawyer for the Securities and Exchange Commission and is among critics who accuse federal agencies of carefully selecting scientific research to fit a political agenda.

'Junk science'? Studies behind Obama regulations under fire


In October, EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt issued a directive to ensure that individuals serving on EPA advisory committees don’t get EPA grants and are free from potential conflicts of interest.

“Whatever science comes out of EPA, shouldn’t be political science,” Pruitt said in a statement. “From this day forward, EPA advisory committee members will be financially independent from the agency.”

Fox News.

Proves what? do we have a guy who is the head of the EPA who is killing Obama's past rules and doctrine.

And for you to say that make me think you know what we all know all along

I no longer trust much from Fox News.

Yea I have been kind of mad not much other news articles on it as you can from my past two links .

 

[evenflow1969]

Yeah the pesticide reversal was a huge win for Monsanto. Nobody knows what their chemicals do to you, but it really helps the bottom line. Everything else is what you'd expect from the GOP war on science.

So you decided not to read the link and just spout opinions?


I thought you guys said their was. no war on coal? God damn they tried to destroy an industry based on a study they couldn't release?

Translation ~ Obama's EPA made shit up ..


From.the link ...



Harvard Study

The Obama administration’s EPA used the 1993 Harvard Six Cities Study to justify air quality regulations on particulate matter, or particles of pollution in the air. The regulations—linked to devastating the coal industry—also affect automobiles, power plants and factories.

In 2013 the House Science, Space and Technology Committee subpoenaed the EPA for data from the study, which links particulate air pollution to infant mortality.

'The American people should be confident that when agencies regulate, they rely on up-to-date, accurate, and unbiased information.'

- Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla.
But in 2014, then-EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy told the committee the agency couldn’t produce either the Harvard study or information from a 1994 American Cancer Society study—claiming the EPA didn’t own the information.

The regulations are not what is devastating the coal industry. Cheap natural gas, and the fact that now both wind and solar produce electricity cheaper by the kilowatt than even dirty coal does. In other words, simple economics. As far as the health affects of air pollution;

AMA on Air Pollution

It is important that people understand that air pollution can affect not only the lungs, but virtually every organ and system in the body," said John Kimball Scott, an otolaryngologist and president-elect of NAPE, who served as floor manager of the AMA resolution, in a press release announcing its passage. The report emphasizes the need for more research and public education on the consequences of air pollution. "There is no question that air pollution can be a serious public health hazard and that prevention of air pollution will lead to disease prevention," says the report.

Doctors and the Environment
"Pollution prevention is disease prevention" is the theme of the National Association of Physicians for the Environment (NAPE), founded in 1992 to help physicians and medical specialty organizations examine the impacts of environmental pollutants on health; educate physicians, patients, and the public about these impacts; and work for the reduction or elimination of
environmental pollutants. NAPE also works to involve physicians in global environmental issues such as biological diversity."" Airing the Word on Pollution

According to the conference summary, published 20 September 1995, air pollutants can enter the body through various ways--not just by inhalation. They can be absorbed through the skin or ingested by eating food or drinking water that has been contaminated, possibly through bioaccumulation in the food chain. The pollutants in food and water that humans and animals are most likely to be exposed to include pesticides, PCBs, dioxin, and heavy metals such as cadmium, lead, and mercury, says the report. Such pollutants can cause a variety of adverse health effects including respiratory ailments, damage to the blood system leading to anemia or leukemia, heart disease, including hypertension and cardiac arrhythmias, and damage to the urogenital system resulting in kidney disease, bladder cancer, and reproductive problems. In addition, the skeletal system stores heavy metals such as lead that may accumulate over time. During times of bone loss such as pregnancy, lactation, or osteoporosis, the stored toxins may be released back into the body causing health problems, especially in women, newborn children, and senior citizens.

Your post means shit , they took an obsecure study from Harvard that won't even release to destroy the coal industry with costly rules and regulations ...


That's junk science ...


You need multiple study's , multiple hearings to way the pros and cons of public safety and economic interest to make vaild like laws and regulations..




Not some God damn knee jerk reactions to fast track and kill thousands of jobs .

Ya, because Billy Bob a\nd you say so. Oh ya and an attorney. It was a tratorous conspiracy.Coal wqas already on the way out as it is in eficient. Those jobs are never coming back you fucking parrots. The EPA was created for a fucking reason. You are nothing but political hacks spouting bull shit.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yeah the pesticide reversal was a huge win for Monsanto. Nobody knows what their chemicals do to you, but it really helps the bottom line. Everything else is what you'd expect from the GOP war on science.

So you decided not to read the link and just spout opinions?


I thought you guys said their was. no war on coal? God damn they tried to destroy an industry based on a study they couldn't release?

Translation ~ Obama's EPA made shit up ..


From.the link ...



Harvard Study

The Obama administration’s EPA used the 1993 Harvard Six Cities Study to justify air quality regulations on particulate matter, or particles of pollution in the air. The regulations—linked to devastating the coal industry—also affect automobiles, power plants and factories.

In 2013 the House Science, Space and Technology Committee subpoenaed the EPA for data from the study, which links particulate air pollution to infant mortality.

'The American people should be confident that when agencies regulate, they rely on up-to-date, accurate, and unbiased information.'

- Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla.
But in 2014, then-EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy told the committee the agency couldn’t produce either the Harvard study or information from a 1994 American Cancer Society study—claiming the EPA didn’t own the information.

The regulations are not what is devastating the coal industry. Cheap natural gas, and the fact that now both wind and solar produce electricity cheaper by the kilowatt than even dirty coal does. In other words, simple economics. As far as the health affects of air pollution;

AMA on Air Pollution

It is important that people understand that air pollution can affect not only the lungs, but virtually every organ and system in the body," said John Kimball Scott, an otolaryngologist and president-elect of NAPE, who served as floor manager of the AMA resolution, in a press release announcing its passage. The report emphasizes the need for more research and public education on the consequences of air pollution. "There is no question that air pollution can be a serious public health hazard and that prevention of air pollution will lead to disease prevention," says the report.

Doctors and the Environment
"Pollution prevention is disease prevention" is the theme of the National Association of Physicians for the Environment (NAPE), founded in 1992 to help physicians and medical specialty organizations examine the impacts of environmental pollutants on health; educate physicians, patients, and the public about these impacts; and work for the reduction or elimination of
environmental pollutants. NAPE also works to involve physicians in global environmental issues such as biological diversity."" Airing the Word on Pollution

According to the conference summary, published 20 September 1995, air pollutants can enter the body through various ways--not just by inhalation. They can be absorbed through the skin or ingested by eating food or drinking water that has been contaminated, possibly through bioaccumulation in the food chain. The pollutants in food and water that humans and animals are most likely to be exposed to include pesticides, PCBs, dioxin, and heavy metals such as cadmium, lead, and mercury, says the report. Such pollutants can cause a variety of adverse health effects including respiratory ailments, damage to the blood system leading to anemia or leukemia, heart disease, including hypertension and cardiac arrhythmias, and damage to the urogenital system resulting in kidney disease, bladder cancer, and reproductive problems. In addition, the skeletal system stores heavy metals such as lead that may accumulate over time. During times of bone loss such as pregnancy, lactation, or osteoporosis, the stored toxins may be released back into the body causing health problems, especially in women, newborn children, and senior citizens.

Your post means shit , they took an obsecure study from Harvard that won't even release to destroy the coal industry with costly rules and regulations ...


That's junk science ...


You need multiple study's , multiple hearings to way the pros and cons of public safety and economic interest to make vaild like laws and regulations..




Not some God damn knee jerk reactions to fast track and kill thousands of jobs .

God, you are a stupid one, now, aren't you. The coal mining jobs are gone. Natural gas, solar, and wind produce electricity for much less per kilowatt. Solar and wind don't pollute.

 

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Lol.i am liking Pruitt more and more he is going to make the AGW cult head explode




One theme they expressed is that carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels should no longer be considered a pollutant but instead an essential ingredient in maintaining a global population boom. They described potentially catastrophic impacts of human-caused warming as "alarmism."

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POLITICS: Pruitt 'guaranteeing' debate on climate science soon



They're laying groundwork for it, they want to do this red, blue study, debate on science before we get there," Murray said of the endangerment finding. "I said, 'You need to get it done; if you don't get it repealed, you're going to have this climate agenda forever. It needs to be repealed.'"

Murray added of Pruitt: "He's not guaranteeing me. He's guaranteeing to do the red-blue climate debate and then go from there."

The Trump administration has been aggressive in its efforts to rescind policies restricting greenhouse gases. It's working to reverse the Clean Power Plan, which sought to cut power-sector emissions 32 percent by 2030, and President Trump has announced a withdrawal from the global Paris climate accord.

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The researchers, all of whom are possible candidates for the red team, attacked the findings of mainstream science that humans are the primary cause of climate change. They criticized climate models, laughed at former Vice President Al Gore's advocacy and portrayed the vast majority of colleagues in their field who disagree with them as "alarmists."

The "smoking gun" that could undo the endangerment finding is to find flaws in the climate models, said Pat Michaels, director of the Center for the Study of Science at the Cato Institute. He said yesterday's panel is a prelude to the red team and an attack against the endangerment determination. He cautioned EPA against using researchers with extreme positions.

Oh sure. Researchers like Lord Monkton, who is neither a Lord, nor a scientist.

Finding flaws in the climate models? What the fuck are you talking about? Out your ass, really. Models are never the real thing, but they are useful. And we don't need models to see what has already been happening. 56" of rain in Houston. The destruction of Puerto Rico and other Carribean Islands. Fires that have destroyed over 10,000 homes in California, and millions of acres in the Western states. And now the jet stream dipping far south, bringing temperatures found normally in the north to the south of the nation. Exactly as predicted by the models of the scientists.