Julie Swetnick, the new accuser

[SassyIrishLass]

How in the hell did this serial rapist make it through six FBI background checks?

He had a NICS background check (like with gun background checks) and fingerprints. They interviewed some unspecified people.

No it wouldn’t.
Raunchy frat boy stuff

Animal House came out at the same time

Animal House was a movie.

You mean to tell me that none of these supposed "gang rapes" would have been outed??

Get real. No one keeps their mouths shut about stuff like that.

It would have been all over the campus, the restaurants, the bars and anywhere people met up.

Nothing like that could have been kept secret. People blab. They always have and always will.

Also where are the other women that Swetnick says were raped?? She's the only one who came forward 36 years later??

Get real.

Actually...women keep their mouths shut a lot about that kind of stuff.....at least they used to. Now, thanks to movements like #MeToo, fewer and fewer women are keeping silence. That is a good thing....tho I know it threatens men who like to be in control.

These were kids at a college party. They wouldn't keep their mouths shut. Kids never do. They aren't smart enough.

Not to mention the other people who were a the party. They would have told others and those others would have spread the gossip everywhere.

Everyone in every bar, restaurant and pizza parlor would have been talking about this if it actually happened.

That's the reason I think its all a crock of shit.

It was HIGH SCHOOL, not college. In high school, we did go to great lengths to make sure our parents didn't know what we were up to, but I'll tell you what I would have done if anything like that ever happened at a party I was at:
I would have gotten every non-involved girl and hopefully some boys with brains to rush the gang rape room and give them 5 seconds to clear out or someone downstairs posted by the phone was going to call the cops.
And I would have meant it.

I wasn't the person raped it happened to a friend of mine I have known since kindergarten.

I wasn't in the room or the part of the house it was happening but when I found out I went and got friends, we went in that room, got my friend out and all the boys ran. There wasn't a long line of boys but it was a handful. We all knew them.

I know I didn't tell an adult nor did anyone I know tell an adult. For the main reason was we were teenagers. No one would believe us. That is reality now and it was in the 1970s when I was in high school. Plain and simple.

Girls weren't taught back then to speak up. We were taught to be quiet. That the best thing was to stay very far away from boys like that.

The boys who did that were shunned. Not just by my group of friends but by most of the kids in school. At least the ones who knew about it and everyone knew about it.

A high school rumor mill is faster than one at a beauty salon or locker room. However kids are very good with making sure adults don't find out.

Oh BS I was taught I could tell my parents anything and most of my friends were as well. Who in the hell raised these morons?

 

[Cecilie1200]

He was a wild frat boy at 15?

Use your calculator. In 1982, he would have been 17.

She said "approximately 1982"...could be 1980 - 82. So 15-17?

She's gonna wait until Ford pins down a date, then come up with hers. That's how reverse engineering works.

If girls knew these sorts of events happened at these parties why would they attend them?

To meet rich guys.

I'm sorry, what possible benefit is any woman who isn't brain-damaged or a prostitute going to see from "meeting rich guys" and being gang-raped by them? In what universe is that logical?

 

[Hossfly]

Who would have anything to do with a Sweatneck?

 

[rightwinger]

Let’s hear it Republicans

All women lie about these things

When you don't know when, how, or where and all 4 of your witnesses says it didn't happen. You're a liar.2

That is not what they said

 

[Cecilie1200]

Kavanaugh is either the greatest Jekyl & Hyde type in the history of historical histories, or this is getting ridiculous.

Wild frat boy
There are hundreds in politics

Al Franken was forced to resign for less

He was a wild frat boy at 15?

He was in training

I remember a party my sophomore year in high school where a bunch of boys pulled a train on a drunk girl in the back bedroom.
We would have been 15 or 16.
Was pretty much disgusted with the bunch of 'em who bragged about it at school the following week.

And you weren't disgusted with yourself for being present and just letting this go on without doing or saying something?

Are you at all aware that your experience - not to mention you yourself - are not even remotely normal for . . . y'know, humans?

I can't even. Get off my screen, you bottom-dwelling scum sucker.

 

[skye]

And.....................the freak show by the Left continues....who will they call next? "Koko" the talking gorilla?


Enough is Enough!!!!!

 

[Cecilie1200]

If they are part of some vast conspiracy scheme dont you think they would have their timeline already established?

Can't. Until Ford testifies, the third accuser would send Ford's case into a tailspin should they find something that made her statement impossible to have happened. Ford must declare in public first.

I think youre missing my point. Why would they declare in public first if they are part of some scheme? Thats like murdering someone and not discussing your alibi with the person that helps commit the murder with you.

If they were independent of each other, than why not declare up front. That's just one of the holes big enough to drive a mack truck through

So you cant answer why they dont already have their timeline synced?

This is like a convoluted crime novel. Ford's brother was an attorney for Fusion GPS.

You really cannot make this stuff up. Art imitating life. GOP should just find a woman and nominate her. Kavanaugh whether guilty or innocent is tainted by all this crap. Poor guy.

You apparently CAN make this stuff up, since . . . voila! We're observing people making this stuff up.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I remember a party my sophomore year in high school where a bunch of boys pulled a train on a drunk girl in the back bedroom.
We would have been 15 or 16.
Was pretty much disgusted with the bunch of 'em who bragged about it at school the following week.

So you are guilty of not reporting a rape?

Yeah, and we are supposed to believe you? It's just as easy to conclude that you participated in it. See how that works creep?

Had I believed it was a rape, I'd certainly have reported it. But this girl had a history of doing the same thing at one other party at least.

She liked to ****. You didn't know girls like that in high school?

SURE SHE DID. Isn't that what all rapist say!

Here's you original statement:

"I remember a party my sophomore year in high school where a bunch of boys pulled a train on a drunk girl in the back bedroom."

See the bolded words. It MEANS she could NOT CONSENT.

AND YOU'RE COOL WITH THAT!

I'm assuming she had a few beers.
There was a keg - but I don't know for certain that she was drunk.
I do know she wasn't passed out -
Saw her leaving with another girl not long after and she wasn't "stumbling drunk" like Brett and his buddy.
One can be buzzed and still offer consent.
Now go bite somebody else's ankle

How do you remember such details of an event that took place 40+ yrs ago? I cannot remember what I did last yr.

Depends on the event.

 

[Ame®icano]

So let's get this straight...

* Brett "Chad" Kavanugh, despite of being 15 invites bunch of 20 year old chicks to a house party.
* They show up, so he naturally drugs them with Qualudes.
* In between drugging, he drinks excessively.
* Once they're passed out, he drags them to other room and violently rape them with his 15 year old virgin cock.
* He high five his boy on the way out cause the line is long and it's finally his turn.
* Next week, and week after that, and the following weeks, the same chicks come to his house party.
* He get away with it for 37 years until some brave woman with everything to lose comes forward and blows the lid of his operation.
* Out of all people (rapists and raped), the only name clearly remembered was Brett Chad Kavanaugh.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Kavanaugh is either the greatest Jekyl & Hyde type in the history of historical histories, or this is getting ridiculous.

Wild frat boy
There are hundreds in politics

Al Franken was forced to resign for less

He was a wild frat boy at 15?

He was in training

I remember a party my sophomore year in high school where a bunch of boys pulled a train on a drunk girl in the back bedroom.
We would have been 15 or 16.
Was pretty much disgusted with the bunch of 'em who bragged about it at school the following week.

And you weren't disgusted with yourself for being present and just letting this go on without doing or saying something?

Are you at all aware that your experience - not to mention you yourself - are not even remotely normal for . . . y'know, humans?

I can't even. Get off my screen, you bottom-dwelling scum sucker.

It never happened...hence she couldn't tell anyone

 

[Tilly]

Well my proactive was to immediately leave once I saw what was going on. Saw the same kind of stuff in the military too but the women actually consented to it until someone said or did something they didnt like.

You seem somewhat logical today. Have the meds kicked in? LOL

Anyway I kid

Here is what I don't get. Julie says she attended like 10 of these parties (her words) so:



#1) Why would she keep attending if she knew this sort of crap was going on?

#2) If this was happening all the time how come the Police never knew of this. Not one parent, student, anyone blabbing?

It just does not add up for me. Maybe I am being naieve. 10 TIMES?!?!? That is like playing Russian Roulette if this is true.

What am I missing here?

Yes its highly likely a teenage girl would do stuff an adult would think was unreasonable or didnt make sense..

Its a proven fact rape is typically unreported to the police. Pretty sure students knew about it but did not tell their parents or the police.

Yes youre being naive or partisan.

She graduated in 1980. So she would be 20 in 1982? Why is she attending rape parties with HS kids? It doesn't add up to me. I am being naieve but then again you already know this about me. Hence, I don't use my brain for work. LOL.

I was talking about Ford not Stewick. In Stewicks case I dont find it odd that she went to parties with high school kids. Now the fact that she is an adult and didnt report this means she opened herself up to criminal charges. That doesnt sound to me like something someone would purposely lie about in order to go to prison.

This reads like a bad crime novel. I have Kav fatigue. Nominate someone else. A woman.

If they give in to this, it will never end.

 

[skye]

 

[skookerasbil]

So let's get this straight...

* Brett "Chad" Kavanugh, despite of being 15 invites bunch of 20 year old chicks to a house party.
* They show up, so he naturally drugs them with Qualudes.
* In between drugging, he drinks excessively.
* Once they're passed out, he drags them to other room and violently rape them with with his 15 year old virgin cock.
* He high five his boy on the way out cause the line is long and it's finally his turn.
* Next week, and week after that, and the following weeks, the same chicks come to his house party.
* He get away with it for 37 years until some brave woman with everything to lose comes forward and blows the lid of his operation.
* Out of all people (rapists and raped), the only name clearly remembered was Brett Chad Kavanaugh.

No corroboration = never happened. Everything else is noise. The "gang rape" absurdity, thrown in at the 11th hour makes it a slam dunk for confirmation. The public knows fake.....which we know after the 2016 election s0ns!

 

[Tilly]

Did she state that Ford was one of the Minors that were raped by this club? I guess I missed that. Link please.

She doesnt have say Ford was one of the minors. She is describing the same scene Ford described.

Good God, try to keep up. You just look silly

I'm ahead of you. Several steps. Its none of my business how you think I look.

Looks like you are actively defending a Woman who states that she stood by while young, high school aged girls, were being raped, and didn't go to the police. In fact, she not only didn't go to the Police, she WENT BACK TO THOSE PARTIES..............



Wait for it




Wait for it






TEN MORE ******* TIMES!

She is not nominated to the Supreme Court. Get back to Kavanaugh, please. She has reported a lot of behavior that is consistent with what the other two accusers have described. That is what matters, not what she did about the "trains."

Actually the fact that she states she continued to go to parties, witness rapes and not report them is rather important!
Someone who could do that is not exaclty TRUSTWORTY.

 

[Dana7360]

She better have more than just an allegation, she signed a sworn affidavit, she lied and it carries criminal liability

Very true

Gives credence to her story

Missed she needs more than just an allegation didn't ya?

It's nothing without proof but assholes don't want proof that's obvious

Avenatti says she's got proof.

Only a damned fool would believe Michael Avenatti if he said water was wet. When people talk about not trusting ambulance-chasing lawyers and used-car salesmen, he's the poster child for that sentiment.

Yeah, I don't understand why this newest woman didn't go to Ford's attorney. Why Avenatti? Was he out ambulance chasing and somehow found her? I dunno.

The other woman didn't go to Ford's lawyer either.

Why do they have to go to the same lawyer?

I think she's smart for hiring Avenatti. The man went up against cohen and trump and so far has won with the Stormy Daniels situation.

If it was me, I would find the lawyer who has experience with trump and that system and has a record of success which so far, Avenatti has.

Why wouldn't anyone believe Michael Avenatti? So far from what I've seen with the Stormy Daniels situation, he's been honest. His claims he's made about cohen and trump have been proven true so far. If he's been lying about something I would like to know about it.

 

[Yarddog]

Oh crap. Its radical dems trying to destroy Cavenaughs life and his family. Funny how all this shit came out at the very end, after this process was all over and the Democrats couldnt find a way to stop him based on his work and his life, and despite having their crying banshees interfere in the proceedings.
What we are witnessing now is an all out assault from the left. This is why they wanted a delay... time to conjure up stories by their operatives.

If this particular story was true.... this woman saying she attended 10 rape parties? there would have been droves of women who knew this about Cavenaugh... this would have came up a long time ago. What crap.
The desperation of the political left is beyond pathetic now. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for trying to destroy his girls lives with these f'd up accusations just cause you dont want this guy to sit on the bench

How do you figure Kavanaught's life will be destroyed?

Describe what you think will happen to him, even if he's not granted the office he's up for.

Remember, he doesn't have a right to be a Supreme Court Judge.

He's been Federal Judge for 10 years or so, very top of his class in Yale.... by all accounts of people who have examined his work and writings, he is a great legal mind. It doesn't really jive that a person who has acheived that level spent his high school and college years going to drunken sex partys as accused ,because to get where he has it takes a great amount of discipline... if he really felt that way about women, he couldnt hide that in his everyday life, he would be a person without self control, he wouldn't be held in high regard by the women he works with and I suppose even the girls on the basketball team he coaches or their parents.

So someone comes out with the most horrible accusations at the last minute... it is their intention to destroy the guys life in the effort to keep control of the Supreme court. .. maybe thats a better way to put it. In the sense that he spent a life building his reputation.. and he also has daughters to think about and how all these accusations affect them. If the reputation you built in your life can be tainted forever because someone drags it through the mud with accusations you don't really know the effects of that until later. I think we can say from this point on his reputation has been tainted forever. People are already calling him a rapist without knowing details or giving him a chance to defend against accusation. How will that in the future affect his two daughters? who knows, I guess that remains to be seen. Will it affect, his wealth and general lifestyle I doubt it at all in that sense.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Kewl...slut attends parties where she knows she’ll get drunk and laid.
How ******* stupid are Liberals?
Very stupid.

LOL, by the looks of it Julie Swetnick is probably one of your own tribe members.

 

[boedicca]

Fortunately there are still some Americans who admit they really don't know what to believe.

The charges are serious and disturbing, but the timing is highly questionable.

We really are one fucked up society.
.

We're destroying 2500 years of human progress and reverting back to tribal sacrifices.

In the 2nd Century AD, Trajan rejected anonymous lists of Christians as evidence of guilt for not being fitting for their society. We've allowed anonymous accusations to smear an innocent man. Once the Smearers see the accusations are getting traction, they manufacture evidence. It's disgusting.

It's not a coincidence that this travesty of justice has a Conservative Catholic as its target, btw - a 21st Century version of throwing a Christian to the Lions, but with less evidence than Trajan would have accepted nearly two millennia ago.

Progressives do not promote Progress; they are complete Reactionaries who are gaslighting and destroying civilization.

Obviously you havent gotten the memo. Even Kav is now walking back his choir boy act and admitting he drank and did things he regrets.

No, he's said he is not perfect. Choir boys are never perfect.

 

[boedicca]

Fortunately there are still some Americans who admit they really don't know what to believe.

The charges are serious and disturbing, but the timing is highly questionable.

We really are one fucked up society.
.

We're destroying 2500 years of human progress and reverting back to tribal sacrifices.

In the 2nd Century AD, Trajan rejected anonymous lists of Christians as evidence of guilt for not being fitting for their society. We've allowed anonymous accusations to smear an innocent man. Once the Smearers see the accusations are getting traction, they manufacture evidence. It's disgusting.

It's not a coincidence that this travesty of justice has a Conservative Catholic as its target, btw - a 21st Century version of throwing a Christian to the Lions, but with less evidence than Trajan would have accepted nearly two millennia ago.

Progressives do not promote Progress; they are complete Reactionaries who are gaslighting and destroying civilization.

anonymous accusations

Hmms, what accusations are anonymous here?

they manufacture evidence.

Sure, how did the left do that? We found 3 people willing to face the wrath of the right, not to mention contempt of congress charges if found to have lied, for the opportunity to delay a right wing judge appointment to the bench? An appointment that could be withdrawn and someone put up that doesn't have this hanging out there?

Progressives do not promote Progress; they are complete Reactionaries who are gaslighting and destroying civilization.

I love this part. For not a few people on your side the presidents best trait is his ability to piss of anybody. He's going after about every institution out there. The DOJ,FBI, science, the press. Yet here you are saying we are gaslighting people. I'd suggest you look at this board on ANY day and count how many OP's are started that have no discernible reason for existence besides gaslighting Democrats. Look at the titles of the active threads, I dare you.

What a maroon.

The Dems floated in the press the anonymous accusations. Once they saw the reactions and questions, they manufactured the personas.

 

[Carl in Michigan]