Judge Tosses Lawsuit Against IRS By Conservative Groups

[francoHFW]

OF COURSE more TP groups were looked at. It was a new movement with hundreds or thousands of idiotic groups....

 

[mudwhistle]

What sucks is that the GOP has won a lot of support from morons over this, the birther movement, fast and furious, Obama is a muslim, benghazi, death panels, etc. And even though it's all been debunked there's still a huge swath of terrified, inbred bedwetters that are going to vote republican because of that completely fabricated bullshit. Good job Mr. Murdoch.

Sure glad to see you libs support glaring abuses like this.

Makes it easier to shut your asses down once the shoe is on the other foot.

 

[Meathead]

A federal judge tossed a lawsuit against the Internal Revenue Service by True the Vote, Inc. and other tea party groups, saying there's no ongoing controversy for the court to consider.

"Unless an actual, ongoing controversy exists in this case, this Court is without power to decide it," U.S. District Court Judge Reggie Walton wrote in his opinion.

True the Vote sued the IRS over delays in its application for tax-exempt status, the AP reported earlier.

USA Today reports:

More: Judge Tosses Lawsuit Against IRS By Conservative Groups

Good. Now, NaziCons can obsess over Benghazi and/or Obamacare.

Haven't we dumbed down enough without idiot OPs like this?

 

[mudwhistle]

The fact is that no groups were restricted or prohibited from engaging in their activities.

At least not permanently.

Just for 3 or 4 years.

No harm done.

I wonder if this judge believes rape isn't a crime as long as the rapist promises never to do it again?

 

[mudwhistle]

What sucks is that the GOP has won a lot of support from morons over this, the birther movement, fast and furious, Obama is a muslim, benghazi, death panels, etc. And even though it's all been debunked there's still a huge swath of terrified, inbred bedwetters that are going to vote republican because of that completely fabricated bullshit. Good job Mr. Murdoch.

Fortunately, the general run of the mill American voter isn't as stupid as the average GOP voter.

On the contrary, Democrats depend very heavily on ignorance to win elections. That's why they want to bring millions more into this country.

 

[Lakhota]

The IRS purged the so-called evildoers. BTW, Lois Lerner is retired - and RICH. Have a great retirement, Lois.

 

[mudwhistle]

The IRS purged the so-called evildoers. BTW, Lois Lerner is retired - and RICH. Have a great retirement, Lois.

Yup, all the evidence has been destroyed.

She doesn't have to look over shoulder.

Course if she ever tries to work for the government again she may run into a bit of a roadblock.

 

[RandallFlagg]

That's why appellate courts overturn 85% of idiot partisan judge's decisions.

Q. What do you call the only person with a 60 IQ in a federal courthouse?
A. "Your honor".

I'd love to know the history of this "judge". He sounds like an Obama appointee - but I don't know.

 

[RandallFlagg]

The IRS purged the so-called evildoers. BTW, Lois Lerner is retired - and RICH. Have a great retirement, Lois.

You are, without doubt, the dumbest motherfucker on this planet. God, it must suck to be you.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

For the partisan right that's what this is really all about, the inane, tedious, and incorrect premise that the president's reelection is not legitimate.

You couldn't be more wrong.
As I said before - we ALL lost.
Again - the most powerful and far reaching federal government office altered their actions according to the political opinion of individuals and groups.
This is a colossal scandal. And one of the worst breaches of trust since Watergate.
Obviously it is extrememely important to know whether the WH administration colluded with them, and backoffice-wise - they probably did. But even if they had absolutely NOTHING to do with it on any level does NOT diminish the severity of what happened.
And they got away with it. And the left has no problem with it.

 

[hadit]

The judge is not saying the allegations are false. He is saying the practices which the IRS was using have been terminated, along with the offenders who initiated them. So there is nothing more to do. He has no power to tell them to stop since they already have.

So all of you who are under the delusion the judge is saying the IRS did not commit the offenses which were alleged, you are badly mistaken.

Now, now. Don't confuse a good emotional rant with all those boring facts and stuff. It's all they have left to hold on to.

 

[hadit]

For the partisan right that's what this is really all about, the inane, tedious, and incorrect premise that the president's reelection is not legitimate.

You couldn't be more wrong.
As I said before - we ALL lost.
Again - the most powerful and far reaching federal government office altered their actions according to the political opinion of individuals and groups.
This is a colossal scandal. And one of the worst breaches of trust since Watergate.
Obviously it is extrememely important to know whether the WH administration colluded with them, and backoffice-wise - they probably did. But even if they had absolutely NOTHING to do with it on any level does NOT diminish the severity of what happened.
And they got away with it. And the left has no problem with it.

What the chattering class is apparently obliviously unaware of is the precedent set. When Nixon tried to use the IRS, he was shot down. Obama actually DID use the IRS, and stands to get away with it. It won't be long before the same chatterers will be squealing bloody murder because their favorite group gets targeted.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Wonder if ANY of the far right whining is actually ever going to amount to anything meaningful?

 

[Synthaholic]

The fact is that no groups were restricted or prohibited from engaging in their activities.

At least not permanently.

Just for 3 or 4 years.

False. They didn't need IRS permission to engage in their activities.

They only needed IRS permission to do it on the taxpayer's dime.

 

[Synthaholic]

The IRS purged the so-called evildoers. BTW, Lois Lerner is retired - and RICH. Have a great retirement, Lois.

You are, without doubt, the dumbest motherfucker on this planet. God, it must suck to be you.

^^^ From the guy who calls himself a PROUD teabagger.

I love irony.

 

[mudwhistle]

The fact is that no groups were restricted or prohibited from engaging in their activities.

At least not permanently.

Just for 3 or 4 years.

False. They didn't need IRS permission to engage in their activities.

They only needed IRS permission to do it on the taxpayer's dime.

No. It doesn't cost the taxpayer a cent. The problem with you libs is you think taxes not collected is a net negative to the government. Only money the government spends is a net negative.

Besides, once that money goes to the government it's out of our pockets and into the governments pocket. Technically we've lost control of it once they have it.

 

[Synthaholic]

The fact is that no groups were restricted or prohibited from engaging in their activities.

At least not permanently.

Just for 3 or 4 years.

False. They didn't need IRS permission to engage in their activities.

They only needed IRS permission to do it on the taxpayer's dime.

No. It doesn't cost the taxpayer a cent. The problem with you libs is you think taxes not collected is a net negative to the government. Only money the government spends is a net negative.

Besides, once that money goes to the government it's out of our pockets and into the governments pocket. Technically we've lost control of it once they have it.

Still waiting for you to show that IRS permission was needed to engage in their activities.

 

[mudwhistle]

The fact is that no groups were restricted or prohibited from engaging in their activities.

At least not permanently.

Just for 3 or 4 years.

False. They didn't need IRS permission to engage in their activities.

They only needed IRS permission to do it on the taxpayer's dime.

No. It doesn't cost the taxpayer a cent. The problem with you libs is you think taxes not collected is a net negative to the government. Only money the government spends is a net negative.

Besides, once that money goes to the government it's out of our pockets and into the governments pocket. Technically we've lost control of it once they have it.

Still waiting for you to show that IRS permission was needed to engage in their activities.

Here's your proof:

The Restriction of Political Campaign Intervention by Section 501(c)(3) Tax-Exempt Organizations
Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity. Violating this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes.

Certain activities or expenditures may not be prohibited depending on the facts and circumstances. For example, certain voter education activities (including presenting public forums and publishing voter education guides) conducted in a non-partisan manner do not constitute prohibited political campaign activity. In addition, other activities intended to encourage people to participate in the electoral process, such as voter registration and get-out-the-vote drives, would not be prohibited political campaign activity if conducted in a non-partisan manner.

On the other hand, voter education or registration activities with evidence of bias that (a) would favor one candidate over another; (b) oppose a candidate in some manner; or (c) have the effect of favoring a candidate or group of candidates, will constitute prohibited participation or intervention.

Page Last Reviewed or Updated: 05-Mar-2014

The Restriction of Political Campaign Intervention by Section 501 c 3 Tax-Exempt Organizations


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ACORN like groups can register folks without being charged an excise tax.

However, groups that take donations know without being tax-free status they'll have to pay what amounts to a huge fine or tax for doing so. This was the whole point of the harassment, to prevent groups that were taking donations for Republicans from doing so. Everyone knows you need money to buy political ads.

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[Synthaholic]

Here's your proof:

The Restriction of Political Campaign Intervention by Section 501(c)(3) Tax-Exempt Organizations​

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Yes - for 501(c)(3) Tax-Exempt organizations.

These groups had not yet been approved for that status.

They were only prohibited from not paying taxes, not their activities themselves.