JUDGE: Those Allegedly Shot By Rittenhouse Can’t Be Called ‘Victims’ During Trial, ‘Rioters’ And ‘Arsonists’ Both More Accurate

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The judge actually said to call them by appropriate titles of "Mr" until such time as they can prove something different.

Right. So they will enter evidence, probably of Rosenbaum engaging in arson. And they will describe Kyle coming upon arsonists. What they won't be doing is making direct accusations about individuals, unevidenced.

 

[braalian]

As usual people are getting their emotions mixed with the legal realities of a trial. It doesn’t matter if you think the protestors were victims and Rittenhouse a murderer. Whether you believe he’s guilty or not, he’s on trial for murder and deserves a fair trial.

It is cut and dry. If the deceased are called “victims” during the trial, then that implies that it wasn’t self-defense and KR is guilty. By definition, people killed in self-defense are not victims.

 

[westwall]

But not convicted of the crime of rioting. Which means that, for example, if you wrote a news article calling him an arsonist or looter, you and your paper could get sued.

The prosecution is outright claiming Kyle went there for street violence. But they cannot call him "rioter". There are different standards for the prosecution.

Of course there are. Amazingly enough there is a LOT of video of Kyle doing good deeds.

Not one of the pedo, the rapist, or the communist doing good deeds.

There is video of them being rioters though.

 

[braalian]

Question: What WOULD you support calling the three attackers? Individuals? Individual one, two and three?

Sure, what’s wrong with that? Or “the deceased”?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

As usual people are getting their emotions mixed with the legal realities of a trial. It doesn’t matter if you think the protestors were victims and Rittenhouse a murderer. Whether you believe he’s guilty or not, he’s on trial for murder and deserves a fair trial.

It is cut and dry. If the deceased are called “victims” during the trial, then that implies that it wasn’t self-defense and KR is guilty. By definition, people killed in self-defense are not victims.

Right, I think we all get that.

 

[braalian]

Right, I think we all get that.

So why are some people getting all worked up as if the judge is favoring Rittenhouse, or being political or something? He’s just doing his job as a judge.

 

[Correll]

Sure, what’s wrong with that? Or “the deceased”?

Not the "deceased". That could encourage sympathy, for people that do not deserve it. Besides, one of them lived.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So why are some people getting all worked up as if the judge is favoring Rittenhouse, or being political or something? He’s just doing his job as a judge.

Haven't thought it through.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not the "deceased". That could encourage sympathy, for people that do not deserve it. Besides, one of them lived.

How about, "The guy with the new breathing hole in his back"?

 

[Correll]

How about, "The guy with the new breathing hole in his back"?

If you want to go for humorous but true, Commies one, two and three, would be better. Or better yet, Thing one, and Thing two and Thing Three.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If you want to go for humorous but true, Commies one, two and three, would be better. Or better yet, Thing one, and Thing two and Thing Three.

Sorry, I was more staying grounded in reality.

 

[Correll]

Sorry, I was more staying grounded in reality.

Commies or Things, are both or either true.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Commies or Things, are both or either true.

Sure they are. You sound totally normal.

 

[Correll]

Sure they are. You sound totally normal.

fuck that shit. I'm much better than normal.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

fuck that shit. I'm much better than normal.

Haha, of course you are. A real independent thinker. Don't need none of that there book learnin'. No sirree.

 

[airplanemechanic]

What makes him illegally armed?

He's carrying a scary looking evil black rifle. The left doesn't like scary black rifles so they're illegal.

 

[Correll]

Haha, of course you are. A real independent thinker. Don't need none of that there book learnin'. No sirree.

Your assumptions are revealing about what you value. They have nothing to do with me, or how I define "better".

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Your assumptions are revealing about what you value. They have nothing to do with me, or how I define "better".

Okay Obi-Wan.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Right. So they will enter evidence, probably of Rosenbaum engaging in arson. And they will describe Kyle coming upon arsonists. What they won't be doing is making direct accusations about individuals, unevidenced.

Rosenbaum is on tape threatening and taunting the young men who protected the business all fucking day long----he then attacked Kyle who had wondered off away from the pack.... Stop pretending the asshole was anything but a violent criminal who attacked Kyle.

 

[danielpalos]

At one point, the judge rebuked Binger for nonchalantly referring to acts of arson. “All we’re talking about is arson, we’re talking about being loud and disorderly,” Binger said of Rosenbaum’s conduct on the night of the rioting.

“I can’t believe some of the things you’re saying,” the judge interjected. “All we’re talking about is arson? Come on.”

JUDGE: Those Allegedly Shot By Rittenhouse Can't Be Called 'Victims' During Trial, 'Rioters' And 'Arsonists' Both More Accurate

Wisconsin Judge Bruce Schroeder laid out the final ground rules on evidence for the Kyle Rittenhouse trial in a pretrial hearing on Monday. Schroeder ruled on several motions from both the prosecution and defense relating to terminology, evidence and use of force experts. The prosecution had...

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Not unless they were actually engaged in those activities.