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/----/ Easier said than done. Not everyone is physically fit and trained to get into a brawl.

I'm pushing 70 and would have kicked those kids asses. I'm not saying the streets were full of cripples in walkers now did I. I'm sure there were a dozen healthy individuals there in the roughly 100 caught in the video that might have helped the cops out.
 
I'm pushing 70 and would have kicked those kids asses. I'm not saying the streets were full of cripples in walkers now did I. I'm sure there were a dozen healthy individuals there in the roughly 100 caught in the video that might have helped the cops out.
/—-/ I’m 73. If you and I get shoved to the pavement we can break a hip and we’re goners.
 
/—-/ I’m 73. If you and I get shoved to the pavement we can break a hip and we’re goners.

Loss of calcium can be mitigated through diet and exercise. I'm a big guy (they wanted me to play DT in college), and well-trained in martial arts and weapons (and I don't mean karate and judo). My balance is excellent. Good luck shoving me to the pavement. Part of martial training is knowing how to redirect force and knowing how to fall.

But all a moot point. There were 50 young, healthy people in the video who might have jumped in to help those cops and start showing these gangs they are not willing to give up their streets to mob violence.

The best defense is a strong offense, or as Bodhi in the movie Point Break (Patrick Swayze) said long ago: You project strength to avoid conflict.
 
Loss of calcium can be mitigated through diet and exercise. I'm a big guy (they wanted me to play DT in college), and well-trained in martial arts and weapons (and I don't mean karate and judo). My balance is excellent. Good luck shoving me to the pavement. Part of martial training is knowing how to redirect force and knowing how to fall.

But all a moot point. There were 50 young, healthy people in the video who might have jumped in to help those cops and start showing these gangs they are not willing to give up their streets to mob violence.

The best defense is a strong offense, or as Bodhi in the movie Point Break (Patrick Swayze) said long ago: You project strength to avoid conflict.
/——/ I trained in Tae Kwon Do and work out regularly, but I know my limits. I would have dialed 911 for backup. You never know who has a weapon.
 
Takes too long, CB.


They will need one. I was going to say a lot more on the matter CB, but I'll just leave it at that as I've learned you can't tell people here anything, especially lefties.
/—-/ I live in NY and worked in NYC. The police response was always fast.
 
It wasn't fast enough that day to come to the aid of those two cops now, was it? :SMILEW~130:

All I'm saying is that I would have come to the aid of those police.
/---/ I don't know where you live or how often you have visited Times Sq, but the NY Police have a station in Times Square and staff it 24/7/365. About seven seconds into the video, you can see an officer use his radio to call for backup, who would be about a block away. Why do you keep trying to tell me about NYC where I lived and worked for 40 years?
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/---/ I don't know where you live or how often you have visited Times Sq, but the NY Police have a station in Times Square and staff it 24/7/365.

And none of that has anything to do with my original point about private citizens coming to the police's aid or standing up against street crime.

Last I checked, it takes a while to run a city block and by the time you are done, you'd be pretty winded.
 
And none of that has anything to do with my original point about private citizens coming to the police's aid or standing up against street crime.

Last I checked, it takes a while to run a city block and by the time you are done, you'd be pretty winded.
/----/ Yeah, it proves you know nothing about NYC.
OK, tough guy. In your 70 years, how many times have you jumped into a mugging in progress to help?
 
/----/ Yeah, it proves you know nothing about NYC.
Naw, I avoid it like the plague. Traffic could not even budge an inch on a Sunday last I was there. I much prefer the area of Jamaica Queens.

OK, tough guy. In your 70 years, how many times have you jumped into a mugging in progress to help?
A few times. Not sure if they were all muggings. Also stopped 1-2 out in San Fran without lifting a finger. Just talked the other person down. My buddy who lived there was pretty scared. Some psycho came up to us on the beach and wanted to take my expensive 35mm camera and was swinging some sort of weapon.
 
how many times have you jumped into a mugging in progress to help?

BTW, CB, since you keep asking, you DON'T jump into a fight to help out. That is not how you stop a person attacking someone else. That will just likely get you dragged into a brawl, maybe beat up or worse.
 
OK, tough guy.

Sorry, CB, I did not mean to offend you. I understand now your angst. You live and work in and near NYC and I suggested those New Yorkers in the video should have jumped in to help out, and took it as a personal attack. I did not mean it that way, I was just thinking out loud because I'm not one to just stand by and not help a person in need and I really hate how so many kids these days stand around with their cellphones taking video while others brawl and get attacked or whatever in burger joints or wherever instead of actually doing something. My regrets.
 
Sorry, CB, I did not mean to offend you. I understand now your angst. You live and work in and near NYC and I suggested those New Yorkers in the video should have jumped in to help out, and took it as a personal attack. I did not mean it that way, I was just thinking out loud because I'm not one to just stand by and not help a person in need and I really hate how so many kids these days stand around with their cellphones taking video while others brawl and get attacked or whatever in burger joints or wherever instead of actually doing something. My regrets.
/----/ No problem. It takes a lot more to offend me. It's just that so many out of towners who think they know so much about Manhattan that just ain't so. My favorite from a new sales manager who just moved here from Michigan: "Nobody lives in Manhattan; it's just office buildings. Everybody knows that."
 
I've been training on guitar all my life. I could shred 'em and break their eardrums even at my advanced age......:lmao::rock::1041:
 
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I know enough not to ask a New Yorker for directions how to find the E train to get to Parsons Blvd after leaving Pennsylvania station or which platform to get on to go uptown.

New Yorkers don't seem, to like visitors.
/---/That's the wrong take. The reason is the subway system is so vast and complex; unless we use the E line regularly, we won't know, and we don't like giving folks the wrong directions that can get you lost.
I worked in NYC for 35 years and only used three or four subway lines on a regular basis. Other times, I had to use a map or ask the token clerk.
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I've been training on guitar all my life. I could shred 'em and break their eardrums even at my advanced age......:lmao::rock::1041:
/---/ I regret never learning a musical instrument or a second language.
 
The reason is the subway system is so vast and complex; unless you use the E line regularly, you won't know, and we don't like giving folks the wrong directions that can get you lost.

Bullshit CB, I am speaking from my own direct experiences there traveling from the Amtrak trying to find my way out to Queens, so where do you get off trying to claim I'm wrong. In every instance, asking New Yorkers for directions, folks there gave me wrong directions. The one exception was a cop in Penn Station.

Apparently this was common enough as when I asked someone on a train platform which side I needed to get to a certain place (the signs above only referred to the next stop and were useless to out of towners unfamiliar with the city), I was told the wrong side, in one case, overheard by another guy there who overheard the act, rolled his eyes and gave me the right directions.

Following the signs in Penn Station to get to the E train takes you down a long tunnel, up steps, then dumps you out onto a busy street somewhere with no signs telling you that you have to walk down the street quite a ways to then go back underground to access the E train.

Do you really presume to speak for every New Yorker at every time now? This is getting tiresome. I won't even go into the fact that out on Long Island, all you hear all night long as you try to sleep are police and emergency sirens racing up and down the main drag. One night, someone broke into a whole bunch of cars on the street and stole all the batteries.

I was offered the chance to live there but passed on it. New York is best kept for New Yorkers, I prefer my own much smaller city and quiet, crime-free residential neighborhood. Sorry if that bothers you.
 
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