Judge Merchan Slaps Down Trump's Immunity Argument.

[Lesh]

Derp, Trump asked for a stay pending the SCOTUS ruling.

Mercahn showed who he is by stating "insurrection" in his denial. There are no insurrection charges in DC (nor could there be as the DoJ refers to J6 as a 'riot').



Merchan further polluted the jury pool by saying this.

He asked for a stay pending a ruling on something that had nothing to do with this case

How stupid are you?

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Coyote]

It is the risk that we take when we elect somebody. Biden acts outside his constitutional power all the time but it is the duty of Congress to decide if his misconduct is so severe that he should be impeached and removed from office. Nobody else in the world is given authority to discipline him. The Founders were very wise to put that in the Constitution.

I don’t agree. There is a lot of debate, depending on which side of the partisan aisle you are in, about what is or is not constitutional. That’s a grey area I can live with. But not actual criminal activity that is not part of his duties.

Should he have immunity for these, done while in office:

Murdering a political opponant?
Operating a child trafficking ring?
Rape?

What about actions undertaken after he left office?

It is frustrating to people like me that Biden could do what he does with impunity--what he does is endangering, putting at risk, killing people--not to mention the unlawful use of taxpayer resources, but he is President. And he should not be a legal target of every person who hates him when he leaves office.

 

[Lesh]

Nope, Clinton has recordings that contain classified information.

The famous 'sock drawer tapes' case.

And neither you nor anyone else knows what Trump allegedly had. And claims them, per the PRA, as personal, same as Clinton.

Biden had classified documents from back when he was a Senator, insecurely stored, insecurely transported and did a book deal to use some of them in.

The court ruled that those DIARIES were personal and exempt

Trump did not have diaries

 

[Marener]

They gave Congress and ONLY Congress the authority to discipline a President.

Trump isn’t president anymore.

 

[Lesh]

That is a Federal issue, not a state issue.

Thus, we have upcoming oral arguments this month in SCOTUS regarding Presidential immunity.

This CASE is not Federal

 

[Chillicothe]

The issue at stake in the whole immunity thing is what constitutional authority and power the President will have. A President has to make complicated and sometimes quick decisions that have far reaching consequences.

In the context of this thread, ala' the ruling by Judge Merchan for his court....and for an indicted crime that occurred before the defendant became an elected President.....I believe, tho am not a lawyer, that Merchan is right. Should be right.

Lest, heinous crimes could be committed years, months, weeks, before becoming POTUS and they will be wiped clean --- analogous to the Catholic religion's practice of confessions. Its as if the crimes never happened.

That may seem mildly unjust to the victims and their families....but that is the argument that poster Foxfyre wishes to advance.


-----------------------------------------------------------

If the Democrats are successful in being able to hold a President criminally liable for decisions he made, words he said, or whatever AFTER the person is no longer President,

Ummm, the hinge-point here is BEFORE the defendant became President.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The adults at the supreme court level will be the final word....

No. Only a supreme narcissist thinks the Supreme Court gives a shit.

 

[Dragonlady]

The adults at the supreme court level will be the final word....

Yes, and that word will be "No immunity" for anything he did.

 

[Winco]

The supreme court will recognize this.... this biased judge is only going for news headlines....

Is there any chance that the Supreme Court is biased in any way?

 

[Clipper]

He’s a fully corrupted and paid for Democrat *****.

Trump tried this stunt right before the trial with his little game of attempting to delay it. Merchan saw right thru Trump's bullshit & handed his ass right back to him.

The fat **** got his comeupance which is long overdue. April 15 can't come soon enough.

 

[Foxfyre]

I don’t agree. There is a lot of debate, depending on which side of the partisan aisle you are in, about what is or is not constitutional. That’s a grey area I can live with. But not actual criminal activity that is not part of his duties.

Should he have immunity for these, done while in office:

Murdering a political opponant?
Operating a child trafficking ring?
Rape?

What about actions undertaken after he left office?

Again it is the risk we take. An honorable Congress would act immediately to properly impeach and remove from office a President who committed such actions and the proper authorities could then prosecute. Millions believe Biden is complicit in jailing/maliciously prosecuting political opponents, child trafficking, rape, and worse but it is the responsibility of Congress to use due process to determine guilt or innocence and take action if appropriate. A President has to be untouchable except via the ballot box and/or the discipline of Congress from all who think him guilty of whatever or just a scumbag in general as EVERY President has those who will so accuse him. If he does not have Presidential immunity in carrying out his duties as President he cannot do his job.

 

[Foxfyre]

Trump isn’t president anymore.

I don't have time to educate you on the implications of a President being held accountable for every decision he makes, ever word is utters, every action he orders while being President or why--especially because there are people who don't have a clue what a Republic is and/or just operate on their own hate--you are not the authority to say whether he should be prosecuted or not.

 

[Foxfyre]

In the context of this thread, ala' the ruling by Judge Merchan for his court....and for an indicted crime that occurred before the defendant became an elected President.....I believe, tho am not a lawyer, that Merchan is right. Should be right.

Lest, heinous crimes could be committed years, months, weeks, before becoming POTUS and they will be wiped clean --- analogous to the Catholic religion's practice of confessions. Its as if the crimes never happened.

That may seem mildly unjust to the victims and their families....but that is the argument that poster Foxfyre wishes to advance.


-----------------------------------------------------------


Ummm, the hinge-point here is BEFORE the defendant became President.

I am arguing the point that is the topic of this thread which is prosecution for what the President did while in office.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Trump tried this stunt right before the trial with his little game of attempting to delay it. Merchan saw right thru Trump's bullshit & handed his ass right back to him.

The fat **** got his comeupance which is long overdue. April 15 can't come soon enough.

Yes .. let’s celebrate cowardly Democrat lawfare to suppress free speech and cheat a presidential candidate during an election cycle in America.

. the TDS is strong in you, to the point of un-American… enjoy

 

[Billiejeens]

It will never make it to the SC.

Why?

 

[Clipper]

Yes .. let’s celebrate cowardly Democrat lawfare to suppress free speech and cheat a presidential candidate during an election cycle in America.

. the TDS is strong in you, to the point of un-American… enjoy

If you think threats are "free speech", then you've been listening to Trump & his goon squad for far too long.

 

[Billiejeens]

Judge Juan Merchan was heaped with praise after he slapped down former President Donald Trump's presidential immunity plea claim in his criminal hush money case.

'Sanity prevails': Hush money judge heaped with praise for tossing Trump immunity argument

Judge Juan Merchan was heaped with praise after he slapped down former President Donald Trump's presidential immunity plea claim in his criminal hush money case.Merchan's ruling Wednesday denies Trump's request to delay the New York City criminal trial until after the Supreme Court rules on the...

www.rawstory.com

Merchan's ruling Wednesday denies Trump's request to delay the New York City criminal trial until after the Supreme Court rules on the presidential immunity argument in special counsel Jack Smith's federal election interference case, a request that baffled George Conway.

"Let’s just pause for a moment to dilate on the inanity of this motion, even apart from its untimeliness," the conservative attorney wrote in response to Merchan's ruling.

Heaped with praise
Good stuff

 

[Billiejeens]

If the courts say a president is not immune to decisions he makes as commander and chief the balance of power will shift to congress over the executive branch and over the judicial as well... The supreme court will recognize this.... this biased judge is only going for news headlines....

And praise from hoodlum democrats.

 

[Marener]

I don't have time to educate you on the implications of a President being held accountable for every decision he makes, ever word is utters, every action he orders while being President or why--especially because there are people who don't have a clue what a Republic is and/or just operate on their own hate--you are not the authority to say whether he should be prosecuted or not.

God forbid the president be legally accountable.

No one in the hundreds of years of our republic thought the president has immunity, least of all the founders who could have put this in the constitution but did not.

There’s no hatred in wanting a president to be legally accountable.