Judge Blocks Trump's Spending Freeze.

[Cougarbear]

How can it when we've just been shown how the President is determined to undercut the power of the purse of Congress.

Who says the current Congress doesn't want to cut the spending of the Federal Government? That's what Trump wants to do. Whether he can do it or if he has to go to Congress to do it, those who fight against this will lose in the midterms.

 

[TimFitz]

1. Trump can have the US databases scanned to identify fraud, such as a $million going to one address, or checks going overseas, or multiple people using the same SS #.

2. DOGE is very similar to the Grace Commission of 1984, whose money saving recommendations were ignored. Lets hope that the DOGE recommendations are implemented. Saving $1T or $2T is required.

3. If DOGE can in-fact save $1T or $2T from the Budget that is a game-changer. To fail means more borrowing and US debt explodes and interest on that debt explodes, and the US Dollar collapses. A disaster by any metric. DOGE cannot fail, one "proof" of excessive spending is looking at past Budgets, knowing that the Freedom Caucus will not support over-spending even if Trump presses them. Here are the past Budgets, Biden has $7T budgets and Trump had $4T budgets until Covid hit.

Biden’s 2025 Budget is $7.30T with a $1.8T deficit______TOTAL BIDEN $8.3T add to Debt
Biden’s 2024 Budget was $7.30T with a $2.0T deficit
Biden's 2023 Budget was $6.13T with a $1.7T deficit
Biden's 2022 Budget was $6.27T with a $1.4T deficit
Trump's 2021 Budget was $6.82T with a $2.8T deficit___ TOTAL TRUMP $7.6T add to debt
Trump's 2020 Budget was $6.55T with a $3.1T deficit
Trump's 2019 Budget was $4.40T with a $0.9T deficit
Trump's 2018 Budget was $4.10T with a $0.8T deficit

1. Trump can have the US databases scanned to identify fraud, such as a $million going to one address, or checks going overseas, or multiple people using the same SS #.

2. DOGE is very similar to the Grace Commission of 1984, whose money saving recommendations were ignored. Lets hope that the DOGE recommendations are implemented. Saving $1T or $2T is required.

3. If DOGE can in-fact save $1T or $2T from the Budget that is a game-changer. To fail means more borrowing and US debt explodes and interest on that debt explodes, and the US Dollar collapses. A disaster by any metric. DOGE cannot fail, one "proof" of excessive spending is looking at past Budgets, knowing that the Freedom Caucus will not support over-spending even if Trump presses them. Here are the past Budgets, Biden has $7T budgets and Trump had $4T budgets until Covid hit.

Biden’s 2025 Budget is $7.30T with a $1.8T deficit______TOTAL BIDEN $8.3T add to Debt
Biden’s 2024 Budget was $7.30T with a $2.0T deficit
Biden's 2023 Budget was $6.13T with a $1.7T deficit
Biden's 2022 Budget was $6.27T with a $1.4T deficit
Trump's 2021 Budget was $6.82T with a $2.8T deficit___ TOTAL TRUMP $7.6T add to debt
Trump's 2020 Budget was $6.55T with a $3.1T deficit
Trump's 2019 Budget was $4.40T with a $0.9T deficit
Trump's 2018 Budget was $4.10T with a $0.8T deficit

your speculations about what “verification”might be are irrelevant. You have no idea, so you just made something up.
The Grace Commission was a real live commission. Named by the President, given resources, and a deadline to submit their report.

DOGE is a gimmick for the Fox crowd, who don’t know the difference.

It will be fun watching Trump and Musk circle each other like a couple of hyenas

Of, Trump inherited a health and growing economy. His best course was to do nothing, something he’s very good at. But he needed to do the traditional GOP borrow and spend.

Biden inherited an economy that had been laid to depression levels by the global Covid pandemic. He had to borrow to prime the economy and get things running. Which is what happened.

 

[Crepitus]

Are you stupid? Who has the most billionaires?

China, according to google.

Now, who holds the purse strings?

 

[TimFitz]

New to politics?

 

[0311]

Judge has no say in budget process

Congress NOT Felon47 controls budget.

 

[0311]

Who holds the purse strings?

Congress

 

[0311]

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It's just resistance ... But it's not going to stop the spicket from being turned off.

Even the lawyer from Democracy Forward representing the LGBQTWXY Advocacy Group and others that filed the suit ...
Acknowledged that it's not going to change the policies that will eventually cut the funding off.

Wow ... Biden appointed District Judge for the District of Columbia issues a stay ...
That amounts to nothing but caterwauling.

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The money has already been allocated by Congress. Congress controls the budget NOT Felon47.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Send him to Gitmo!

 

[BlackSand]

The money has already been allocated by Congress. Congress controls the budget NOT Felon47.

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I don't care what your opinion is ...

The lawyer from Democracy Forward representing the Groups filing suit,
said the stay would not stop the policies that will eventually end the funding.

President Trump rescinded the 'memo' that started the argument in the first place ...
Because he knows they cannot stop the upcoming policy changes.

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[Manonthestreet]

Congress NOT Felon47 controls budget.

Did I say otherwise dumbass

 

[TimFitz]

Did I say otherwise dumbass

Well then neither one of you is right.

Under the Budget Control Act of 1974, the normal procedure is for the President to prepare a budget and submit to Congress. The President is not required to do so. Which, in turn, can approve, modify or reject the President’s budget. This was followed up until Newt Gingrich tried to strongarm Bill Clinton into accepting Gingrich’s own plan. This triggered the first real government shutdown and cost the GOP the 1996 election (Gingrich didn’t last much longer either).

In 2009, Mitch McConnell announced that he was going to hold Obama’s first budget hostage to a GOP agenda. So, Obama sidestepped him by not submitting a budget. Regular order ceased after that.

 

[TimFitz]

Who says the current Congress doesn't want to cut the spending of the Federal Government? That's what Trump wants to do. Whether he can do it or if he has to go to Congress to do it, those who fight against this will lose in the midterms.

You are new to politics!

I believed fool notions like that when Ronald Reagan was elected.

But Congress never cuts spending.

Two Presidents balanced the budget in my lifetime. Nixon (1969), and Clinton (1999-2000).

Trump is a real estate developer. The first rule of commercial real estate development is “other people’s money”. He has lived on the financial edge all his life, and has a long history of fraud, unpaid bills, defaults and bankruptcies.

only a fool would believe that a man who has always lived like that gives a shit about debt.

Moreover, the example of his first Administration makes it clear that borrow and spend will be the order of the day.

 

[0311]

Did I say otherwise dumbass

Fuck Off Shit Bird.

 

[0311]

For MAGA MAGGOT MIND IMPAIRED.

Once both the House and the Senate pass a budget and that budget is signed into law, the money in that budget cannot be withheld. Felon47 cannot withhold monies that have already been allocated. The Orange Gibbon tried last time around when he wanted use money in the Defense Buget to build his bogus wall.

His governmental overreach bit him in fat pimpled diaper covered ass.

 

[Cougarbear]

Congress NOT Felon47 controls budget.

It's true. But, it's not Congress that disperses the funds either. They only appropriate the funds. The various departments use the funds. However, in many cases, the President is in charge of the departments. So, he does control funds, doesn't he! Congress appropriated funds to build the wall. Did Biden let the department do that? No.

 

[Cougarbear]

You are new to politics!

I believed fool notions like that when Ronald Reagan was elected.

But Congress never cuts spending.

Two Presidents balanced the budget in my lifetime. Nixon (1969), and Clinton (1999-2000).

Trump is a real estate developer. The first rule of commercial real estate development is “other people’s money”. He has lived on the financial edge all his life, and has a long history of fraud, unpaid bills, defaults and bankruptcies.

only a fool would believe that a man who has always lived like that gives a shit about debt.

Moreover, the example of his first Administration makes it clear that borrow and spend will be the order of the day.

I see nothing in his campaign promises which he keeps that suggests he wants to borrow and spend. He has DOGE set up to find ways to shrink government and spend a lot less. He is giving directives to his department heads to shrink their department and save money. You need to stop getting all your information from The View.

 

[Ringo]

-Biden spent money on Ukraine like a drunken sailor.
-You know what drunken sailors spend money on?
-?
-Prostitutes.

 

[Dante]

The President has the authority to temporarily defer spending under the 'Impoundment Control Act' (ICA). Which is what Trump's order did.

Only Congress can overturn a temporary deferral, per ICA. The judge is out of bounds. Seems she is an insurrectionist.

The ICA established an orderly process by which the president could withhold funds either by temporarily deferring the spending ...​

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• • Deferrals: A deferral is a temporary delay in spending certain funds with the intent to spend them before their expiration. The mechanism was designed to provide for contingencies, savings (e.g., pending completion of internal reviews of planned investments to ensure efficient allocation of resources), or when specified by law . OMB oversees deferrals through the apportionment process, and although they can take effect without congressional approval, they can be overturned by Congress. Deferrals are administrative procedures designed to have no specific policy implications. For example, certain disaster funding may be deferred and spent as needed throughout a given fiscal year in response to emergencies like hurricanes.

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What did the Impoundment Control Act do?

"The Impoundment Control Act of 1974 was passed in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal and significantly constrained the President's ability to impound funds, marking a fundamental shift in the separation of powers."

Defending crooks: "The Impoundment Control Act is a Watergate-era relic of misguided overreach," said Senator Lee.
"Can people trust, fully trust a convicted felon?"

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