JP Morgan's $19m-a-year boss under fire for 'opulent' Christmas card

[Daktoria]

19m a year JP Morgan boss Jamie Dimon under fire over tasteless Christmas card that shows off his wealth | Mail Online

1) Should JP Morgan have done this?

2) Was the CEO an idiot?

3) Does the image sympathize with conservative ideas about showing off wealth?

4) Does the image sympathize with liberal ideas about destroying social values which allow free markets to become successful?

To be clear, I've discussed this with some socialists, and their answer was talking about how capitalism contains the seeds of its own demise, and what could you expect from a CEO who doesn't appreciate how working class people have to struggle in order to make ends meet.

 

[Sallow]

Jamie Dimon, conservative hero, presided over one of the biggest losses in History..

9 Billion dollars.

In conservatives terms? That's a win!

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/06/28/jpmorgan-trading-loss-may-reach-9-billion/?_r=0

 

[Daktoria]

I wouldn't say all conservatives would call him a winner, but there are lots of conservatives who dismiss the value of heritage behind rugged individualism. They're OK with other people suffering and calling them useless members of society while behaving provocatively.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

19m a year JP Morgan boss Jamie Dimon under fire over tasteless Christmas card that shows off his wealth | Mail Online

1) Should JP Morgan have done this?

2) Was the CEO an idiot?

3) Does the image sympathize with conservative ideas about showing off wealth?

4) Does the image sympathize with liberal ideas about destroying social values which allow free markets to become successful?

To be clear, I've discussed this with some socialists, and their answer was talking about how capitalism contains the seeds of its own demise, and what could you expect from a CEO who doesn't appreciate how working class people have to struggle in order to make ends meet.

Dimon can probably get away with anything he wants. Even with the $13B fine JPMC is going to pay, even with that but it's been baked into the cake for at least 6-7 years. The mortgage "crisis" was no mistake.

 

[The Rabbi]

I had to look at the original article because I couldnt believe Dimon, who has done a superb job at Morgan, got fired.
Yup. He wasn't. The thread titel is a lie. There was nothing wrong with what he did. The Left needs to mind its own damn business.

 

[martybegan]

I had to look at the original article because I couldnt believe Dimon, who has done a superb job at Morgan, got fired.
Yup. He wasn't. The thread titel is a lie. There was nothing wrong with what he did. The Left needs to mind its own damn business.

The original poster is an utter moron. Not surprising.

 

[Avatar4321]

19m a year JP Morgan boss Jamie Dimon under fire over tasteless Christmas card that shows off his wealth | Mail Online

1) Should JP Morgan have done this?

2) Was the CEO an idiot?

3) Does the image sympathize with conservative ideas about showing off wealth?

4) Does the image sympathize with liberal ideas about destroying social values which allow free markets to become successful?

To be clear, I've discussed this with some socialists, and their answer was talking about how capitalism contains the seeds of its own demise, and what could you expect from a CEO who doesn't appreciate how working class people have to struggle in order to make ends meet.

1) I don't know the specifics or dynamics of Dimon and his relationship with the company as CEO to know whether this was a good or bad move on their part. It's quite possible that they are losing millions by doing that if he was effective at generating money for their business. They could also be cutting dead weight. Without more specific information on their financial situation, his responsibilities as CEO, and the fall out from the card, I couldn't say either way.

2) Yes, this was a stupid thing to do.

3) I was unaware that showing off wealth was a conservative value. Could you perhaps show where this idea comes from?

4) What does this have to do with destroying social value?

More to the point, do we have any evidence of what this mans political philosophy is? We already have some assumptions made on his political leanings with zero evidence.

 

[boedicca]

I don't care what Jamie Dimon does with his own money or his Christmas cards.

SRSLY

 

[Avatar4321]

Jamie Dimon, conservative hero, presided over one of the biggest losses in History..

9 Billion dollars.

In conservatives terms? That's a win!

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/06/28/jpmorgan-trading-loss-may-reach-9-billion/?_r=0

He's a conservative hero now? Really?

So you know his politics?

 

[Avatar4321]

It looks as though I should be more patient with the page loading since I only read the beginning of the article and foolishly assumed that him being fired was an honest statement.

 

[boedicca]

ahem

 

[The Rabbi]

Jamie Dimon, conservative hero, presided over one of the biggest losses in History..

9 Billion dollars.

In conservatives terms? That's a win!

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/06/28/jpmorgan-trading-loss-may-reach-9-billion/?_r=0

He's a conservative hero now? Really?

So you know his politics?

Oops.

Dimon donates primarily to the Democratic Party.[33] In May 2012, he described himself as "barely a Democrat" [34] stating,

I've gotten disturbed at some of the Democrats' anti-business behavior, the attacks on work ethic and successful people. I think it's very counterproductive. ... It doesn't mean I don't have their values. I want jobs. I want a more equitable society. I don't mind paying higher taxes. ... I do think we're our brother's keeper but I think that attacking that which creates all things, is not the right way to go about it.[34]

To idiots like Swallow anyone who has made something of himself is a conservative.

 

[boedicca]

ahem

 

[Daktoria]

I had to look at the original article because I couldnt believe Dimon, who has done a superb job at Morgan, got fired.
Yup. He wasn't. The thread titel is a lie. There was nothing wrong with what he did. The Left needs to mind its own damn business.

...so you believe free markets can be preserved while the principles which justify them are gradually corroded away?

The left is minding its own business. The right is self-destructing.

 

[Daktoria]

It looks as though I should be more patient with the page loading since I only read the beginning of the article and foolishly assumed that him being fired was an honest statement.

The word "fired" has multiple definitions. Someone who defends Dimon should understand this since he's trying to take advantage of how appearances can mean multiple things in order to provoke multiple groups.

Not only is he provoking working class people who are frustrated by his reckless display, but he's also provoking idealists who defend the free market behind the understanding that people care about what they earn.

 

[Daktoria]

Jamie Dimon, conservative hero, presided over one of the biggest losses in History..

9 Billion dollars.

In conservatives terms? That's a win!

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/06/28/jpmorgan-trading-loss-may-reach-9-billion/?_r=0

He's a conservative hero now? Really?

So you know his politics?

Oops.

Dimon donates primarily to the Democratic Party.[33] In May 2012, he described himself as "barely a Democrat" [34] stating,

I've gotten disturbed at some of the Democrats' anti-business behavior, the attacks on work ethic and successful people. I think it's very counterproductive. ... It doesn't mean I don't have their values. I want jobs. I want a more equitable society. I don't mind paying higher taxes. ... I do think we're our brother's keeper but I think that attacking that which creates all things, is not the right way to go about it.[34]

To idiots like Swallow anyone who has made something of himself is a conservative.

You're assuming ideology and party politics are the same thing.

Another example of this is how neoconservatism stands for the self-determination of Jews through Zionist foreign policy.

However, Jews vote 70-80% Democrat.

If the Republican party got rid of of neoconservatives, the right would look very different than it does today. Heck, many leftists would probably vote Republican instead because they weren't worried about associating with "Judeo-Christian tradition" as much.

 

[deltex1]

That's funny...I never think about Jamie's life style...who gives a shit.

 

[boedicca]

There are two kinds of people in the world:

Those who spend an inordinate amount of timing fussing about how others live and those who focus on living their own lives.

 

[The Rabbi]

He's a conservative hero now? Really?

So you know his politics?

Oops.

Dimon donates primarily to the Democratic Party.[33] In May 2012, he described himself as "barely a Democrat" [34] stating,

I've gotten disturbed at some of the Democrats' anti-business behavior, the attacks on work ethic and successful people. I think it's very counterproductive. ... It doesn't mean I don't have their values. I want jobs. I want a more equitable society. I don't mind paying higher taxes. ... I do think we're our brother's keeper but I think that attacking that which creates all things, is not the right way to go about it.[34]

To idiots like Swallow anyone who has made something of himself is a conservative.

You're assuming ideology and party politics are the same thing.

Another example of this is how neoconservatism stands for the self-determination of Jews through Zionist foreign policy.

However, Jews vote 70-80% Democrat.

If the Republican party got rid of of neoconservatives, the right would look very different than it does today. Heck, many leftists would probably vote Republican instead because they weren't worried about associating with "Judeo-Christian tradition" as much.

I'm assuming that someone who donates to the Democratic Party and calls himself a Democrat is not a conservative, esp someone from the northeast.
What Jews or Zionism has to do with anything is beyond me. Dimon's grandfather was Greek.
I think you're either stoned whenever you post here or are inordinately stupid.

 

[Daktoria]

There are two kinds of people in the world:

Those who spend an inordinate amount of timing fussing about how others live and those who focus on living their own lives.

Exactly. Some people are so self-absorbed by just living their own lives that they don't bother fussing about their public displays of decadence.

Free markets depend on respect, and that includes self-respect. Jamie Dimon isn't respecting himself. He's just conceding to those who want to destroy the principles which ground the free market. Those principles require eternal vigilance by everyone. Self-absorbed people like Jamie Dimon need not apply.