Joy Behar asks why Trump can't be charged with 'hate speech' after rally

[westwall]

I'm sure it's just coincidence that the aforementioned groups are all liberal special interest groups.

I'm sure it's just coincidence that the aforementioned groups are all liberal special interest groups.

US residents who are victims of a prejudice-motivated crime based on their perceived sex, ethnicity, disability, language or nationality have the same human rights as bigoted blowhards in high places:

Opinion | Trump’s Inhumanity Before a Victim of Rape

"A hate crime (also known as a bias-motivated crime or bias crime[1]) is a prejudice-motivated crime which occurs when a perpetrator targets a victim because of their membership (or perceived membership) in a certain social group or race.

"Examples of such groups can include, and are almost exclusively limited to: sex, ethnicity, disability, language, nationality, physical appearance, religion, gender identity or sexual orientation.[2][3][4]

Hate crime - Wikipedia

And I find it hard to believe that a thinking person, as you claim to be, feels that any crime of violence can't be considered a hate crime? If a white person gets beaten up and put in the hospital, and he is laying alongside a transgender person who suffered the same crime, does he not suffer the same pain as the transgendered person? Why yes, yes he does. So to claim that the transgendered person has suffered more is stupid.

How about we punish all violent criminals the same. Lock them up and throw away the key.

And I find it hard to believe that a thinking person, as you claim to be, feels that any crime of violence can't be considered a hate crime? If a white person gets beaten up and put in the hospital, and he is laying alongside a transgender person who suffered the same crime, does he not suffer the same pain as the transgendered person? Why yes, yes he does. So to claim that the transgendered person has suffered more is stupid.

The transgender was a victim of a prejudice motivated act of violence while the white victim probably was not; although, there's no shortage of white victims who unknowingly wandered into the wrong black neighborhood. In general, penalty-enhancement hate crime laws are justified on the grounds that such behavior is thought to inflict greater individual and societal harm. Bias-motivated crimes are more likely to provoke retaliatory crimes and incite community unrest than are acts of violence lacking a hate crime motive.
Hate crime laws in the United States - Wikipedia

It doesn't matter. What hate crime laws do is stipulate that one person is more valuable than another. That is simply stupid. And, it is not "fair'. NO ONE is more valuable than anyone else. Or do you instead believe that slavery is OK?

Yes, my analogy is hyperbolic, but that is the end result of the idiocy that you are following.

It doesn't matter. What hate crime laws do is stipulate that one person is more valuable than another. That is simply stupid. And, it is not "fair'. NO ONE is more valuable than anyone else. Or do you instead believe that slavery is OK?

No, I don't believe slavery is OK.
Do you believe 200 years of white supremacy factors in to current US hate crime legislation?

White supremacy - Wikipedia

"After the mid-1960s, white supremacy remained an important ideology to the American far-right.[16]

"According to Kathleen Belew, a historian of race and racism in the United States, white militancy shifted after the Vietnam War from supporting the existing racial order to a more radical position—self-described as 'white power' or 'white nationalism'—committed to overthrowing the United States government and establishing a white homeland.[17][18]

"Such anti-government militia organizations are one of three major strands of violent right-wing movements in the United States, with white supremacist groups (such as the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazi organizations, and racist skinheads) and a religious fundamentalist movement (such as Christian Identity) being the other two."

It doesn't matter. White supremacy, black supremacy, green supremacy, are all protected by the 1st Amendment. Hate speech is the only speech that is protected because friendly speech doesn't need protection.....or are you not smart enough to understand that fact?

 

[Dick Foster]

I am so shocked that this dingbat doesn't know that hate speech is not a crime.

Joy Behar asks why Trump can't be charged with 'hate speech' after rally

"The View" host Joy Behar took her anti-Trump talk to another level on Thursday, posing the possibility of the president being charged with hate speech in the wake of Wednesday's controversial rally.

Behar kicked off the comments by saying she does not understand how President Trump could "get away with" attacking freshmen congresswomen the way he had, before launching into the next part of her diatribe.

"Why can't he be brought up on charges of hate speech?" Behar asked. She then wondered why the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which has repeatedly sued rTrump's administration, hadn't sued the president over hate speech.​

As if this is not a prime example of the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I am so shocked that this dingbat doesn't know that hate speech is not a crime.

Joy Behar asks why Trump can't be charged with 'hate speech' after rally

"The View" host Joy Behar took her anti-Trump talk to another level on Thursday, posing the possibility of the president being charged with hate speech in the wake of Wednesday's controversial rally.

Behar kicked off the comments by saying she does not understand how President Trump could "get away with" attacking freshmen congresswomen the way he had, before launching into the next part of her diatribe.

"Why can't he be brought up on charges of hate speech?" Behar asked. She then wondered why the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which has repeatedly sued Trump's administration, hadn't sued the president over hate speech.​

Your are half-right (That's really really good for you). Herein are the facts:

18 U.S. Code § 249 - Hate crime acts

When did the SC rule that law to be constitutional?

To my knowledge they never have, why don't you hire an attorney licensed to appear and plead a case before the SC and challenge this law.

 

[georgephillip]

That's a mighty White perspective, Cracker.
Learn some of your MAGA history:

Hate crime - Wikipedia

"Hate crime laws have a long history in the United States.

"The first hate crime[67] laws were passed after the American Civil War, beginning with the Civil Rights Act of 1871, to combat the growing number of racially motivated crimes being committed by the Reconstruction era Ku Klux Klan.

"The modern era of hate-crime legislation began in 1968 with the passage of federal statute, 18 U.S. 245, part of the Civil Rights Act which made it illegal to 'by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone who is engaged in six specified protected activities, by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.'"

When was America more MAGA, 1871 or 1968?

so what?....a violent crime is a violent crime and should be treated as such.....

so what?....a violent crime is a violent crime and should be treated as such.....

Allowing courts to consider motive when sentencing a criminal diminishes the harm society experiences from bias-motivated assaults:

Hate crime - Wikipedia

"Justifications for harsher punishments for hate crimes focus on the notion that hate crimes cause greater individual and societal harm.[citation needed]

"It is said[117] that, when the core of a person's identity is attacked, the degradation and dehumanization is especially severe, and additional emotional and physiological problems are likely to result.

"Society then, in turn, can suffer from the disempowerment of a group of people.[citation needed]

"Furthermore, it is asserted that the chances for retaliatory crimes are greater when a hate crime has been committed.

"The riots in Los Angeles, California that followed the beating of Rodney King, a Black motorist, by a group of White police officers are cited as support for this argument.[12] The beating of white truck driver Reginald Denny by black rioters during the same riot is also an example that supports this argument."

a violent crime is a violent crime and should be treated as such...

a violent crime is a violent crime and should be treated as such...

Some violent crimes damage society more than others.

Hate crime - Wikipedia

"Justifications for harsher punishments for hate crimes focus on the notion that hate crimes cause greater individual and societal harm.[citation needed] It is said[117] that, when the core of a person's identity is attacked, the degradation and dehumanization is especially severe, and additional emotional and physiological problems are likely to result.

"Society then, in turn, can suffer from the disempowerment of a group of people.[citation needed]

"Furthermore, it is asserted that the chances for retaliatory crimes are greater when a hate crime has been committed.

"The riots in Los Angeles, California that followed the beating of Rodney King, a Black motorist, by a group of White police officers are cited as support for this argument.[12] The beating of white truck driver Reginald Denny by black rioters during the same riot is also an example that supports this argument."

White (male) supremacy was a guiding principle of this country for the first two centuries of its existence.

It's privileges extend to the Oval Office today.

[citation needed]

[citation needed]

"White supremacy was dominant in the United States both before and after the American Civil War, and it also persisted for decades after the Reconstruction Era.[4]

"In the antebellum South, this included the holding of African Americans in chattel slavery, in which four million of them were denied freedom.[5]

"The outbreak of the Civil War saw the desire to uphold white supremacy being cited as a cause for state secession[6] and the formation of the Confederate States of America.[7]

"In an editorial about Native Americans in 1890, author L. Frank Baum wrote: 'The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.'[8]"

White supremacy - Wikipedia

 

[Wry Catcher]

Was that when only white male property owners were granted the right to vote?

White supremacy - Wikipedia

"White supremacy was dominant in the United States both before and after the American Civil War, and it also persisted for decades after the Reconstruction Era.[4]

"In the antebellum South, this included the holding of African Americans in chattel slavery, in which four million of them were denied freedom.[5]

"The outbreak of the Civil War saw the desire to uphold white supremacy being cited as a cause for state secession[6]and the formation of the Confederate States of America.[7]

"In an editorial about Native Americans in 1890, author L. Frank Baum wrote: 'The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.'[8]"

Got any outrages committed this century?

Got any outrages committed this century?

Sure.

Opinion | Trump’s Inhumanity Before a Victim of Rape

"Still, I cannot forget Trump’s recent treatment of Nadia Murad, a Yazidi woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize last year for her campaign to end mass rape in war.

"The Islamic State, or ISIS, forced Murad into sexual slavery when it overran Yazidi villages in northern Iraq in 2014.

"Murad lost her mother and six brothers, slaughtered by ISIS.

"She now lives in Germany, and has been unable to return home, a point she made in her July 17 White House meeting with Trump. 'We cannot go back if we cannot protect our dignity, our family,' she said.

"Allow me to render the scene in the present tense. Trump sits there at his desk, an uncomprehending, unsympathetic, uninterested cardboard dummy.

"He looks straight ahead for much of the time, not at her, his chin jutting in his best effort at a Mussolini pose. He cannot heave his bulk from the chair for this brave young woman. He cannot look at her.

"Every now and again, in a disdainful manner, he swivels his head toward her and other survivors of religious persecution. When Murad says, 'They killed my mom, my six brothers,' Trump responds: 'Where are they now?'

MAGA moment?

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

Wow, more half-truths, rumors, innuendos and outright lies by a trump supporter.

Wow, complete disavowal of reality by a leftist.

Hillary Admitted She And Obama Created ISIS – Caught on Tape!

Now you're going to screech about the source, or you're going to play The Democrat Didn't Say What She Said...or both.

You're such an asshole, intent (mens rea, "the intention or knowledge of wrongdoing that constitutes part of a crime, as opposed to the action or conduct of the accused") proves my point.

Your posts can never be trusted, they are either damn lies, or in this case a half-truth and an innuendo hoping to mislead the reader that she created ISIS intentionally, and see could see the future.

 

[georgephillip]

Hate crimes target a victim because of their perceived membership in a certain social group or race. Examples are almost exclusively limited to sex, ethnicity, disability, language, nationality, physical appearance, religion, gender identity or sexual orientation. Bigots who target such groups with criminal acts deserve to be isolated from the general population BEFORE castration.
Hate crime - Wikipedia

I'm sure it's just coincidence that the aforementioned groups are all liberal special interest groups.

I'm sure it's just coincidence that the aforementioned groups are all liberal special interest groups.

US residents who are victims of a prejudice-motivated crime based on their perceived sex, ethnicity, disability, language or nationality have the same human rights as bigoted blowhards in high places:

Opinion | Trump’s Inhumanity Before a Victim of Rape

"A hate crime (also known as a bias-motivated crime or bias crime[1]) is a prejudice-motivated crime which occurs when a perpetrator targets a victim because of their membership (or perceived membership) in a certain social group or race.

"Examples of such groups can include, and are almost exclusively limited to: sex, ethnicity, disability, language, nationality, physical appearance, religion, gender identity or sexual orientation.[2][3][4]

Hate crime - Wikipedia

Offer not available to whites, conservatives, or Christians.

You gotta read the fine print.

Offer not available to whites, conservatives, or Christians.

You gotta read the fine print.

White supremacy is NOT a right.

Hate crime - Wikipedia

"One of the largest waves of hate crimes in the United States took place during the civil rights movement in the 1960s. Both violence and threats of violence were common against African Americans, and hundreds of lives were lost due to such acts.

"Members of this social class faced violence from groups such as the Ku Klux Klan as well as violence from individuals who were committed to maintaining segregation.[85]

"At the time, civil rights leaders such as Martin Luther King Jr. and their supporters fought hard for the right of African Americans to vote as well as for equality in their everyday lives. African Americans have been the target of hate crimes since the Civil War,[86] and the humiliation of this social class was also desired by many Anti-black individuals.

"Other frequently reported bias motivations were bias against a religion, bias against a particular sexual orientation, and bias against a particular ethnicity/national origin.[87]

"At times, these bias motivations overlapped, because violence can be both anti-gay and anti-black, for example.[88]

"Analysts have compared groups in terms of the per capita rate of hate crimes committed against them, to allow for differing populations. Overall, the total number of hate crimes committed since the first hate crime bill was passed in 1997 is 86,582.[89]David Ray Hate Crimes Prevention Act"

Advocating White Supremecy is a right. It's called the First Amendment.. Using violence against people has never been legal. Of course, what douchebags like you like to do is conflate the two things.

Advocating White Supremecy is a right. It's called the First Amendment.. Using violence against people has never been legal. Of course, what douchebags like you like to do is conflate the two things.

Profiting from white supremacy has been legal since the founding of this country. Most of the economic advantages white Americans enjoy today stems directly from chattel slavery providing two centuries of free labor and the systematic genocide of Native Americans providing all that free land. Your "free" market is a criminal enterprise that would never exist without conflating prosperity and profit. Trump is the living proof.

 

[georgephillip]

The transgender was a victim of a prejudice motivated act of violence while the white victim probably was not; although, there's no shortage of white victims who unknowingly wandered into the wrong black neighborhood. In general, penalty-enhancement hate crime laws are justified on the grounds that such behavior is thought to inflict greater individual and societal harm. Bias-motivated crimes are more likely to provoke retaliatory crimes and incite community unrest than are acts of violence lacking a hate crime motive.
Hate crime laws in the United States - Wikipedia

They are illegal. They violate the First Amendment, no matter how "justified" you believe they may be. Your theories of justice and law enforcement are irrelevant. Those rules were decided 230 years ago.

They are illegal. They violate the First Amendment, no matter how "justified" you believe they may be. Your theories of justice and law enforcement are irrelevant. Those rules were decided 230 years ago

Was that when only white male property owners were granted the right to vote?

White supremacy - Wikipedia

"White supremacy was dominant in the United States both before and after the American Civil War, and it also persisted for decades after the Reconstruction Era.[4]

"In the antebellum South, this included the holding of African Americans in chattel slavery, in which four million of them were denied freedom.[5]

"The outbreak of the Civil War saw the desire to uphold white supremacy being cited as a cause for state secession[6]and the formation of the Confederate States of America.[7]

"In an editorial about Native Americans in 1890, author L. Frank Baum wrote: 'The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.'[8]"

Got any outrages committed this century?

Got any outrages committed this century?

Sure.

Opinion | Trump’s Inhumanity Before a Victim of Rape

"Still, I cannot forget Trump’s recent treatment of Nadia Murad, a Yazidi woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize last year for her campaign to end mass rape in war.

"The Islamic State, or ISIS, forced Murad into sexual slavery when it overran Yazidi villages in northern Iraq in 2014.

"Murad lost her mother and six brothers, slaughtered by ISIS.

"She now lives in Germany, and has been unable to return home, a point she made in her July 17 White House meeting with Trump. 'We cannot go back if we cannot protect our dignity, our family,' she said.

"Allow me to render the scene in the present tense. Trump sits there at his desk, an uncomprehending, unsympathetic, uninterested cardboard dummy.

"He looks straight ahead for much of the time, not at her, his chin jutting in his best effort at a Mussolini pose. He cannot heave his bulk from the chair for this brave young woman. He cannot look at her.

"Every now and again, in a disdainful manner, he swivels his head toward her and other survivors of religious persecution. When Murad says, 'They killed my mom, my six brothers,' Trump responds: 'Where are they now?'

MAGA moment?

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

No more than Bush and Cheney should have invaded Iraq.
How does the conduct of those four war whores affect Trump's disrespect for a victim of mass rape?

 

[bripat9643]

"The rage that drives black riots today comes from a hundred years of chattel slavery followed by another century of Jim Crow and redlining."

Yeah, it'd have been a lot better if Democrats hadn't done all that.

"The rage that drives black riots today comes from a hundred years of chattel slavery followed by another century of Jim Crow and redlining."

Yeah, it'd have been a lot better if Democrats hadn't done all that.

Conservative Democrats.

"Jim Crow laws were state and local laws that enforced racial segregation in the Southern United States.[1] All were enacted in the late 19th and early 20th centuries by white far-right Democratic-dominated state legislatures after the Reconstruction period.[2] The laws were enforced until 1965."

What happened after 1965?

Jim Crow laws - Wikipedia

AND I forgot to mention:
blacks commit murder at FOUR times the rate of whites
hate crimes TWICE the rate
rape TWICE the rate
understand?? no, you don't do you?
they all crosscheck each other

AND I forgot to mention:
blacks commit murder at FOUR times the rate of whites
hate crimes TWICE the rate
rape TWICE the rate
understand?? no, you don't do you?
they all crosscheck each other

"White supremacy was dominant in the United States both before and after the American Civil War, and it also persisted for decades after the Reconstruction Era.[4]

"In the antebellum South, this included the holding of African Americans in chattel slavery, in which four million of them were denied freedom.[5]

"The outbreak of the Civil War saw the desire to uphold white supremacy being cited as a cause for state secession[6]and the formation of the Confederate States of America.[7]

"In an editorial about Native Americans in 1890, author L. Frank Baum wrote: 'The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.'[8]"

White supremacy - Wikipedia

How is that any different from liberals' white supremacy, that says black people aren't smart and good enough to succeed on their own, and must have help from white liberals?

Conservatives believe everyone can succeed.

Liberals are white supremacists.

How is that any different from liberals' white supremacy, that says black people aren't smart and good enough to succeed on their own, and must have help from white liberals?

Conservatives believe everyone can succeed.

Liberals are white supremacists.

White supremacy is a conservative doctrine regardless of partisan affiliation.

Conservatives are in denial about white supremacy

Horseshit. There's nothing left or right about racism. Woodrow Wilson was a big exponent of eugenics. A lot of Dims were in those days, especially Margret Sanger. FDR was a big anti-Semit, and he put Asian Americans in concentration camps.

Your belief that Dims have clean hands is totally at variance with the facts.

 

[bripat9643]

They are illegal. They violate the First Amendment, no matter how "justified" you believe they may be. Your theories of justice and law enforcement are irrelevant. Those rules were decided 230 years ago.

They are illegal. They violate the First Amendment, no matter how "justified" you believe they may be. Your theories of justice and law enforcement are irrelevant. Those rules were decided 230 years ago

Was that when only white male property owners were granted the right to vote?

White supremacy - Wikipedia

"White supremacy was dominant in the United States both before and after the American Civil War, and it also persisted for decades after the Reconstruction Era.[4]

"In the antebellum South, this included the holding of African Americans in chattel slavery, in which four million of them were denied freedom.[5]

"The outbreak of the Civil War saw the desire to uphold white supremacy being cited as a cause for state secession[6]and the formation of the Confederate States of America.[7]

"In an editorial about Native Americans in 1890, author L. Frank Baum wrote: 'The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.'[8]"

Got any outrages committed this century?

Got any outrages committed this century?

Sure.

Opinion | Trump’s Inhumanity Before a Victim of Rape

"Still, I cannot forget Trump’s recent treatment of Nadia Murad, a Yazidi woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize last year for her campaign to end mass rape in war.

"The Islamic State, or ISIS, forced Murad into sexual slavery when it overran Yazidi villages in northern Iraq in 2014.

"Murad lost her mother and six brothers, slaughtered by ISIS.

"She now lives in Germany, and has been unable to return home, a point she made in her July 17 White House meeting with Trump. 'We cannot go back if we cannot protect our dignity, our family,' she said.

"Allow me to render the scene in the present tense. Trump sits there at his desk, an uncomprehending, unsympathetic, uninterested cardboard dummy.

"He looks straight ahead for much of the time, not at her, his chin jutting in his best effort at a Mussolini pose. He cannot heave his bulk from the chair for this brave young woman. He cannot look at her.

"Every now and again, in a disdainful manner, he swivels his head toward her and other survivors of religious persecution. When Murad says, 'They killed my mom, my six brothers,' Trump responds: 'Where are they now?'

MAGA moment?

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

No more than Bush and Cheney should have invaded Iraq.
How does the conduct of those four war whores affect Trump's disrespect for a victim of mass rape?

What "disrespect?" You really are a total douchebag. Ya know it?

 

[bripat9643]

I am so shocked that this dingbat doesn't know that hate speech is not a crime.

Joy Behar asks why Trump can't be charged with 'hate speech' after rally

"The View" host Joy Behar took her anti-Trump talk to another level on Thursday, posing the possibility of the president being charged with hate speech in the wake of Wednesday's controversial rally.

Behar kicked off the comments by saying she does not understand how President Trump could "get away with" attacking freshmen congresswomen the way he had, before launching into the next part of her diatribe.

"Why can't he be brought up on charges of hate speech?" Behar asked. She then wondered why the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which has repeatedly sued rTrump's administration, hadn't sued the president over hate speech.​

As if this is not a prime example of the pot calling the kettle black.

How do you figure? Do you believe laws against so-called "hate speech" are constitutional?

 

[bripat9643]

I am so shocked that this dingbat doesn't know that hate speech is not a crime.

Joy Behar asks why Trump can't be charged with 'hate speech' after rally

"The View" host Joy Behar took her anti-Trump talk to another level on Thursday, posing the possibility of the president being charged with hate speech in the wake of Wednesday's controversial rally.

Behar kicked off the comments by saying she does not understand how President Trump could "get away with" attacking freshmen congresswomen the way he had, before launching into the next part of her diatribe.

"Why can't he be brought up on charges of hate speech?" Behar asked. She then wondered why the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which has repeatedly sued Trump's administration, hadn't sued the president over hate speech.​

Your are half-right (That's really really good for you). Herein are the facts:

18 U.S. Code § 249 - Hate crime acts

When did the SC rule that law to be constitutional?

To my knowledge they never have, why don't you hire an attorney licensed to appear and plead a case before the SC and challenge this law.

Someone will. I don't have that kind of money.

 

[georgephillip]

Conservative Democrats.

"Jim Crow laws were state and local laws that enforced racial segregation in the Southern United States.[1] All were enacted in the late 19th and early 20th centuries by white far-right Democratic-dominated state legislatures after the Reconstruction period.[2] The laws were enforced until 1965."

What happened after 1965?

Jim Crow laws - Wikipedia

AND I forgot to mention:
blacks commit murder at FOUR times the rate of whites
hate crimes TWICE the rate
rape TWICE the rate
understand?? no, you don't do you?
they all crosscheck each other

AND I forgot to mention:
blacks commit murder at FOUR times the rate of whites
hate crimes TWICE the rate
rape TWICE the rate
understand?? no, you don't do you?
they all crosscheck each other

"White supremacy was dominant in the United States both before and after the American Civil War, and it also persisted for decades after the Reconstruction Era.[4]

"In the antebellum South, this included the holding of African Americans in chattel slavery, in which four million of them were denied freedom.[5]

"The outbreak of the Civil War saw the desire to uphold white supremacy being cited as a cause for state secession[6]and the formation of the Confederate States of America.[7]

"In an editorial about Native Americans in 1890, author L. Frank Baum wrote: 'The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.'[8]"

White supremacy - Wikipedia

How is that any different from liberals' white supremacy, that says black people aren't smart and good enough to succeed on their own, and must have help from white liberals?

Conservatives believe everyone can succeed.

Liberals are white supremacists.

How is that any different from liberals' white supremacy, that says black people aren't smart and good enough to succeed on their own, and must have help from white liberals?

Conservatives believe everyone can succeed.

Liberals are white supremacists.

White supremacy is a conservative doctrine regardless of partisan affiliation.

Conservatives are in denial about white supremacy

Horseshit. There's nothing left or right about racism. Woodrow Wilson was a big exponent of eugenics. A lot of Dims were in those days, especially Margret Sanger. FDR was a big anti-Semit, and he put Asian Americans in concentration camps.

Your belief that Dims have clean hands is totally at variance with the facts.

Horseshit. There's nothing left or right about racism. Woodrow Wilson was a big exponent of eugenics. A lot of Dims were in those days, especially Margret Sanger. FDR was a big anti-Semit, and he put Asian Americans in concentration camps.

You're conflating Democrats with progressive racial values.
There was nothing progressive about Wilson's bigotry:

"Wilson was the first Southerner to be elected president since Zachary Taylor in 1848, and his ascension to the presidency was celebrated by Southern segregationists.

"Several historians have spotlighted consistent examples in the public record of Wilson's overtly racist policies and political appointments, such as segregationists he placed in his Cabinet.[303][304][305][306][307]"

Woodrow Wilson - Wikipedia

Eugene V. Debs was the progressive candidate on race relations in 1912.

"IN THE wake of the 1917 Russian Revolution, the Workers Party--as the Communist Party in the U.S. was known during the mid-1920s--initiated a set of anti-racist and internationalist policies and practices aimed at fighting for African American equality at home and opposing U.S. intervention abroad.

"These actions marked a breakthrough in the socialist movement, ending a long period of relative indifference to the fight against racism."

Toward an anti-racist practice

 

[georgephillip]

Was that when only white male property owners were granted the right to vote?

White supremacy - Wikipedia

"White supremacy was dominant in the United States both before and after the American Civil War, and it also persisted for decades after the Reconstruction Era.[4]

"In the antebellum South, this included the holding of African Americans in chattel slavery, in which four million of them were denied freedom.[5]

"The outbreak of the Civil War saw the desire to uphold white supremacy being cited as a cause for state secession[6]and the formation of the Confederate States of America.[7]

"In an editorial about Native Americans in 1890, author L. Frank Baum wrote: 'The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.'[8]"

Got any outrages committed this century?

Got any outrages committed this century?

Sure.

Opinion | Trump’s Inhumanity Before a Victim of Rape

"Still, I cannot forget Trump’s recent treatment of Nadia Murad, a Yazidi woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize last year for her campaign to end mass rape in war.

"The Islamic State, or ISIS, forced Murad into sexual slavery when it overran Yazidi villages in northern Iraq in 2014.

"Murad lost her mother and six brothers, slaughtered by ISIS.

"She now lives in Germany, and has been unable to return home, a point she made in her July 17 White House meeting with Trump. 'We cannot go back if we cannot protect our dignity, our family,' she said.

"Allow me to render the scene in the present tense. Trump sits there at his desk, an uncomprehending, unsympathetic, uninterested cardboard dummy.

"He looks straight ahead for much of the time, not at her, his chin jutting in his best effort at a Mussolini pose. He cannot heave his bulk from the chair for this brave young woman. He cannot look at her.

"Every now and again, in a disdainful manner, he swivels his head toward her and other survivors of religious persecution. When Murad says, 'They killed my mom, my six brothers,' Trump responds: 'Where are they now?'

MAGA moment?

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

No more than Bush and Cheney should have invaded Iraq.
How does the conduct of those four war whores affect Trump's disrespect for a victim of mass rape?

What "disrespect?" You really are a total douchebag. Ya know it?

What "disrespect?" You really are a total douchebag. Ya know it?

Watch how Trump reacts to Nadia Murad's harrowing survival of ISIS captivity - CNN Video

 

[bripat9643]

AND I forgot to mention:
blacks commit murder at FOUR times the rate of whites
hate crimes TWICE the rate
rape TWICE the rate
understand?? no, you don't do you?
they all crosscheck each other

AND I forgot to mention:
blacks commit murder at FOUR times the rate of whites
hate crimes TWICE the rate
rape TWICE the rate
understand?? no, you don't do you?
they all crosscheck each other

"White supremacy was dominant in the United States both before and after the American Civil War, and it also persisted for decades after the Reconstruction Era.[4]

"In the antebellum South, this included the holding of African Americans in chattel slavery, in which four million of them were denied freedom.[5]

"The outbreak of the Civil War saw the desire to uphold white supremacy being cited as a cause for state secession[6]and the formation of the Confederate States of America.[7]

"In an editorial about Native Americans in 1890, author L. Frank Baum wrote: 'The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.'[8]"

White supremacy - Wikipedia

How is that any different from liberals' white supremacy, that says black people aren't smart and good enough to succeed on their own, and must have help from white liberals?

Conservatives believe everyone can succeed.

Liberals are white supremacists.

How is that any different from liberals' white supremacy, that says black people aren't smart and good enough to succeed on their own, and must have help from white liberals?

Conservatives believe everyone can succeed.

Liberals are white supremacists.

White supremacy is a conservative doctrine regardless of partisan affiliation.

Conservatives are in denial about white supremacy

Horseshit. There's nothing left or right about racism. Woodrow Wilson was a big exponent of eugenics. A lot of Dims were in those days, especially Margret Sanger. FDR was a big anti-Semit, and he put Asian Americans in concentration camps.

Your belief that Dims have clean hands is totally at variance with the facts.

Horseshit. There's nothing left or right about racism. Woodrow Wilson was a big exponent of eugenics. A lot of Dims were in those days, especially Margret Sanger. FDR was a big anti-Semit, and he put Asian Americans in concentration camps.

You're conflating Democrats with progressive racial values.
There was nothing progressive about Wilson's bigotry:

"Wilson was the first Southerner to be elected president since Zachary Taylor in 1848, and his ascension to the presidency was celebrated by Southern segregationists.

"Several historians have spotlighted consistent examples in the public record of Wilson's overtly racist policies and political appointments, such as segregationists he placed in his Cabinet.[303][304][305][306][307]"

Woodrow Wilson - Wikipedia

Eugene V. Debs was the progressive candidate on race relations in 1912.

"IN THE wake of the 1917 Russian Revolution, the Workers Party--as the Communist Party in the U.S. was known during the mid-1920s--initiated a set of anti-racist and internationalist policies and practices aimed at fighting for African American equality at home and opposing U.S. intervention abroad.

"These actions marked a breakthrough in the socialist movement, ending a long period of relative indifference to the fight against racism."

Toward an anti-racist practice

Wilson was a racist and a Democrat. He may have been born in Virginia, but he graduated from John Hopkins University, was president of Princeton University, and he was the governor of New Jersey. He spent spent the whole of his adult life in the North rubbing shoulders with progressive Democrats like Margaret Sanger. He was a typical progressive Democrat.

 

[bripat9643]

Got any outrages committed this century?

Got any outrages committed this century?

Sure.

Opinion | Trump’s Inhumanity Before a Victim of Rape

"Still, I cannot forget Trump’s recent treatment of Nadia Murad, a Yazidi woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize last year for her campaign to end mass rape in war.

"The Islamic State, or ISIS, forced Murad into sexual slavery when it overran Yazidi villages in northern Iraq in 2014.

"Murad lost her mother and six brothers, slaughtered by ISIS.

"She now lives in Germany, and has been unable to return home, a point she made in her July 17 White House meeting with Trump. 'We cannot go back if we cannot protect our dignity, our family,' she said.

"Allow me to render the scene in the present tense. Trump sits there at his desk, an uncomprehending, unsympathetic, uninterested cardboard dummy.

"He looks straight ahead for much of the time, not at her, his chin jutting in his best effort at a Mussolini pose. He cannot heave his bulk from the chair for this brave young woman. He cannot look at her.

"Every now and again, in a disdainful manner, he swivels his head toward her and other survivors of religious persecution. When Murad says, 'They killed my mom, my six brothers,' Trump responds: 'Where are they now?'

MAGA moment?

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

No more than Bush and Cheney should have invaded Iraq.
How does the conduct of those four war whores affect Trump's disrespect for a victim of mass rape?

What "disrespect?" You really are a total douchebag. Ya know it?

What "disrespect?" You really are a total douchebag. Ya know it?

Watch how Trump reacts to Nadia Murad's harrowing survival of ISIS captivity - CNN Video

What, did he shift his eyebrows the wrong way? What do you imagine that video demonstrates?

 

[georgephillip]

Sure.

Opinion | Trump’s Inhumanity Before a Victim of Rape

"Still, I cannot forget Trump’s recent treatment of Nadia Murad, a Yazidi woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize last year for her campaign to end mass rape in war.

"The Islamic State, or ISIS, forced Murad into sexual slavery when it overran Yazidi villages in northern Iraq in 2014.

"Murad lost her mother and six brothers, slaughtered by ISIS.

"She now lives in Germany, and has been unable to return home, a point she made in her July 17 White House meeting with Trump. 'We cannot go back if we cannot protect our dignity, our family,' she said.

"Allow me to render the scene in the present tense. Trump sits there at his desk, an uncomprehending, unsympathetic, uninterested cardboard dummy.

"He looks straight ahead for much of the time, not at her, his chin jutting in his best effort at a Mussolini pose. He cannot heave his bulk from the chair for this brave young woman. He cannot look at her.

"Every now and again, in a disdainful manner, he swivels his head toward her and other survivors of religious persecution. When Murad says, 'They killed my mom, my six brothers,' Trump responds: 'Where are they now?'

MAGA moment?

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

No more than Bush and Cheney should have invaded Iraq.
How does the conduct of those four war whores affect Trump's disrespect for a victim of mass rape?

What "disrespect?" You really are a total douchebag. Ya know it?

What "disrespect?" You really are a total douchebag. Ya know it?

Watch how Trump reacts to Nadia Murad's harrowing survival of ISIS captivity - CNN Video

What, did he shift his eyebrows the wrong way? What do you imagine that video demonstrates?

What, did he shift his eyebrows the wrong way? What do you imagine that video demonstrates?

It demonstrates how racism is a bedrock character issue with Trump, one that supersedes and informs many others just as his sexism and xenophobia does.

Opinion | The Rot You Smell Is a Racist Potus

His ignorance of Nadia's ordeal and his indifference to the deaths of her seven family members ("where are they now") reveals again the wisdom in Martin Luther King, Jr's words: "In the final analysis, racism is evil because its ultimate logic is genocide."

That an arrogant, ignorant racist like Trump was unaware of the Yazidi exterminations prove only that "the mouth that demeans may not always be attached to the hand that destroys, but they are assuredly connected in spirit and in spite."

 

[georgephillip]

"White supremacy was dominant in the United States both before and after the American Civil War, and it also persisted for decades after the Reconstruction Era.[4]

"In the antebellum South, this included the holding of African Americans in chattel slavery, in which four million of them were denied freedom.[5]

"The outbreak of the Civil War saw the desire to uphold white supremacy being cited as a cause for state secession[6]and the formation of the Confederate States of America.[7]

"In an editorial about Native Americans in 1890, author L. Frank Baum wrote: 'The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.'[8]"

White supremacy - Wikipedia

How is that any different from liberals' white supremacy, that says black people aren't smart and good enough to succeed on their own, and must have help from white liberals?

Conservatives believe everyone can succeed.

Liberals are white supremacists.

How is that any different from liberals' white supremacy, that says black people aren't smart and good enough to succeed on their own, and must have help from white liberals?

Conservatives believe everyone can succeed.

Liberals are white supremacists.

White supremacy is a conservative doctrine regardless of partisan affiliation.

Conservatives are in denial about white supremacy

Horseshit. There's nothing left or right about racism. Woodrow Wilson was a big exponent of eugenics. A lot of Dims were in those days, especially Margret Sanger. FDR was a big anti-Semit, and he put Asian Americans in concentration camps.

Your belief that Dims have clean hands is totally at variance with the facts.

Horseshit. There's nothing left or right about racism. Woodrow Wilson was a big exponent of eugenics. A lot of Dims were in those days, especially Margret Sanger. FDR was a big anti-Semit, and he put Asian Americans in concentration camps.

You're conflating Democrats with progressive racial values.
There was nothing progressive about Wilson's bigotry:

"Wilson was the first Southerner to be elected president since Zachary Taylor in 1848, and his ascension to the presidency was celebrated by Southern segregationists.

"Several historians have spotlighted consistent examples in the public record of Wilson's overtly racist policies and political appointments, such as segregationists he placed in his Cabinet.[303][304][305][306][307]"

Woodrow Wilson - Wikipedia

Eugene V. Debs was the progressive candidate on race relations in 1912.

"IN THE wake of the 1917 Russian Revolution, the Workers Party--as the Communist Party in the U.S. was known during the mid-1920s--initiated a set of anti-racist and internationalist policies and practices aimed at fighting for African American equality at home and opposing U.S. intervention abroad.

"These actions marked a breakthrough in the socialist movement, ending a long period of relative indifference to the fight against racism."

Toward an anti-racist practice

Wilson was a racist and a Democrat. He may have been born in Virginia, but he graduated from John Hopkins University, was president of Princeton University, and he was the governor of New Jersey. He spent spent the whole of his adult life in the North rubbing shoulders with progressive Democrats like Margaret Sanger. He was a typical progressive Democrat.

Wilson was a racist and a Democrat. He may have been born in Virginia, but he graduated from John Hopkins University, was president of Princeton University, and he was the governor of New Jersey. He spent spent the whole of his adult life in the North rubbing shoulders with progressive Democrats like Margaret Sanger. He was a typical progressive Democrat.

There was nothing progressive about Wilson's and his party's view about race relations:

Woodrow Wilson - Wikipedia

"Wilson continued to appoint African Americans to positions that had traditionally been filled by blacks, overcoming opposition from many Southern senators.[311]

"However, the Wilson administration escalated the discriminatory hiring policies and segregation of government offices that had begun under President Theodore Roosevelt, and had continued under President Taft.[312]

"In Wilson's first month in office, Postmaster General Albert S. Burleson urged the president to establish segregated government offices.[313]

"Wilson did not adopt Burleson's proposal to segregate all government departments, but he allowed Cabinet members to segregate their respective departments.[314]

"By the end of 1913, many departments, including the Navy, had segregated work spaces, restrooms, and cafeterias.[313]

"Wilson's African-American supporters, who had crossed party lines to vote for him in 1912, were bitterly disappointed, and they and Northern leaders protested the changes.[313]

"Wilson defended his administration's segregation policy in a July 1913 letter responding to civil rights activist Oswald Garrison Villard, arguing that segregation removed 'friction' between the races."

 

[bripat9643]

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

Then Hillary and Obama shouldn't have supported ISIS, should they?

No more than Bush and Cheney should have invaded Iraq.
How does the conduct of those four war whores affect Trump's disrespect for a victim of mass rape?

What "disrespect?" You really are a total douchebag. Ya know it?

What "disrespect?" You really are a total douchebag. Ya know it?

Watch how Trump reacts to Nadia Murad's harrowing survival of ISIS captivity - CNN Video

What, did he shift his eyebrows the wrong way? What do you imagine that video demonstrates?

What, did he shift his eyebrows the wrong way? What do you imagine that video demonstrates?

It demonstrates how racism is a bedrock character issue with Trump, one that supersedes and informs many others just as his sexism and xenophobia does.

Opinion | The Rot You Smell Is a Racist Potus

His ignorance of Nadia's ordeal and his indifference to the deaths of her seven family members ("where are they now") reveals again the wisdom in Martin Luther King, Jr's words: "In the final analysis, racism is evil because its ultimate logic is genocide."

That an arrogant, ignorant racist like Trump was unaware of the Yazidi exterminations prove only that "the mouth that demeans may not always be attached to the hand that destroys, but they are assuredly connected in spirit and in spite."

Sorry, but ignorance demonstrates absolutely nothing. You have no basis for claiming indifference. Fucking Christ, he invited her to the Whitehouse. That seems like the opposite of indifference to me.

You're a fucking moron. You keep pursuing this meme even though there isn't a single fact to support it.

 

[bripat9643]

How is that any different from liberals' white supremacy, that says black people aren't smart and good enough to succeed on their own, and must have help from white liberals?

Conservatives believe everyone can succeed.

Liberals are white supremacists.

How is that any different from liberals' white supremacy, that says black people aren't smart and good enough to succeed on their own, and must have help from white liberals?

Conservatives believe everyone can succeed.

Liberals are white supremacists.

White supremacy is a conservative doctrine regardless of partisan affiliation.

Conservatives are in denial about white supremacy

Horseshit. There's nothing left or right about racism. Woodrow Wilson was a big exponent of eugenics. A lot of Dims were in those days, especially Margret Sanger. FDR was a big anti-Semit, and he put Asian Americans in concentration camps.

Your belief that Dims have clean hands is totally at variance with the facts.

Horseshit. There's nothing left or right about racism. Woodrow Wilson was a big exponent of eugenics. A lot of Dims were in those days, especially Margret Sanger. FDR was a big anti-Semit, and he put Asian Americans in concentration camps.

You're conflating Democrats with progressive racial values.
There was nothing progressive about Wilson's bigotry:

"Wilson was the first Southerner to be elected president since Zachary Taylor in 1848, and his ascension to the presidency was celebrated by Southern segregationists.

"Several historians have spotlighted consistent examples in the public record of Wilson's overtly racist policies and political appointments, such as segregationists he placed in his Cabinet.[303][304][305][306][307]"

Woodrow Wilson - Wikipedia

Eugene V. Debs was the progressive candidate on race relations in 1912.

"IN THE wake of the 1917 Russian Revolution, the Workers Party--as the Communist Party in the U.S. was known during the mid-1920s--initiated a set of anti-racist and internationalist policies and practices aimed at fighting for African American equality at home and opposing U.S. intervention abroad.

"These actions marked a breakthrough in the socialist movement, ending a long period of relative indifference to the fight against racism."

Toward an anti-racist practice

Wilson was a racist and a Democrat. He may have been born in Virginia, but he graduated from John Hopkins University, was president of Princeton University, and he was the governor of New Jersey. He spent spent the whole of his adult life in the North rubbing shoulders with progressive Democrats like Margaret Sanger. He was a typical progressive Democrat.

Wilson was a racist and a Democrat. He may have been born in Virginia, but he graduated from John Hopkins University, was president of Princeton University, and he was the governor of New Jersey. He spent spent the whole of his adult life in the North rubbing shoulders with progressive Democrats like Margaret Sanger. He was a typical progressive Democrat.

There was nothing progressive about Wilson's and his party's view about race relations:

Woodrow Wilson - Wikipedia

"Wilson continued to appoint African Americans to positions that had traditionally been filled by blacks, overcoming opposition from many Southern senators.[311]

"However, the Wilson administration escalated the discriminatory hiring policies and segregation of government offices that had begun under President Theodore Roosevelt, and had continued under President Taft.[312]

"In Wilson's first month in office, Postmaster General Albert S. Burleson urged the president to establish segregated government offices.[313]

"Wilson did not adopt Burleson's proposal to segregate all government departments, but he allowed Cabinet members to segregate their respective departments.[314]

"By the end of 1913, many departments, including the Navy, had segregated work spaces, restrooms, and cafeterias.[313]

"Wilson's African-American supporters, who had crossed party lines to vote for him in 1912, were bitterly disappointed, and they and Northern leaders protested the changes.[313]

"Wilson defended his administration's segregation policy in a July 1913 letter responding to civil rights activist Oswald Garrison Villard, arguing that segregation removed 'friction' between the races."

Racism was progressive at the turn of the century, shit for brains. It's only since WW II that Dims have come out against racism. However, they still support antisemitism.

 

[georgephillip]

No more than Bush and Cheney should have invaded Iraq.
How does the conduct of those four war whores affect Trump's disrespect for a victim of mass rape?

What "disrespect?" You really are a total douchebag. Ya know it?

What "disrespect?" You really are a total douchebag. Ya know it?

Watch how Trump reacts to Nadia Murad's harrowing survival of ISIS captivity - CNN Video

What, did he shift his eyebrows the wrong way? What do you imagine that video demonstrates?

What, did he shift his eyebrows the wrong way? What do you imagine that video demonstrates?

It demonstrates how racism is a bedrock character issue with Trump, one that supersedes and informs many others just as his sexism and xenophobia does.

Opinion | The Rot You Smell Is a Racist Potus

His ignorance of Nadia's ordeal and his indifference to the deaths of her seven family members ("where are they now") reveals again the wisdom in Martin Luther King, Jr's words: "In the final analysis, racism is evil because its ultimate logic is genocide."

That an arrogant, ignorant racist like Trump was unaware of the Yazidi exterminations prove only that "the mouth that demeans may not always be attached to the hand that destroys, but they are assuredly connected in spirit and in spite."

Sorry, but ignorance demonstrates absolutely nothing. You have no basis for claiming indifference. Fucking Christ, he invited her to the Whitehouse. That seems like the opposite of indifference to me.

You're a fucking moron. You keep pursuing this meme even though there isn't a single fact to support it.

Sorry, but ignorance demonstrates absolutely nothing. You have no basis for claiming indifference. Fucking Christ, he invited her to the Whitehouse. That seems like the opposite of indifference to me.

He asked her where her dead family member were now.
Is that an example of presidential who's dialed in to what's happening?

Donald Trump's Ignorance Won't Silence Nadia Murad

"Nadia Murad—one of thousands of Yazidi women and children who face kidnapping, human trafficking, rape and torture as forms of religious prosecution—has been making her voice heard since 2014, when she miraculously escaped after being held captive by ISIS for three months. Murad’s outspoken bravery has reached international attention and won her the Nobel Peace Prize in 2018.

"Last week, on International Justice Day, along with over 20 victims of religious persecution, Murad visited the White House.

"As the famed activist asked the President to intervene in some way to help her community—facing violence and disappearances since 2003—he appeared both unfamiliar with her story and uninterested in learning more..."

"Trump claimed to know the area she is speaking about 'very well' and shifted to the subject of her receiving the Nobel Prize. After congratulating her, he asked, 'They gave it to you for what reason, if you can explain?'"

Can you explain why any POTUS would be ignorant/indifferent enough to ask Murad why she won the Nobel Prize?