John F. Kennedy - radical wing-nut teabagger

All the evidence you need to illustrate how the dumbocrat party has been completely and totally hijacked by unhinged socialists, marxists, and communists.

If someone today suggests tax cuts because it's proven to correct a struggling economy, you're now attacked as a "wing-nut teabagger" by radicals right out of Atlas Shrugged (scary just how much Ayn Rand's novel has come to fruition). Yet here is the party's ultimate "golden boy" clearly stating this fact!

JFK: The Case For Tax Cuts : Paul Williams : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

There are times when the macro-economically speaking, the supply side needs help (like tax breaks for the wealthy) and there are times when the demand side needs help (like earned income tax credits) .

I know that confuses many of you.
 
As usual, you're not making any sense. When did I say I like Kennedy's taxes? I simply pointed out how Kennedy is on record stating that cutting taxes is one of the best ways to turn around a bad economy - and that people who say that today are attacked relentlessly as being "radical", "wing-nut", and a "teabagger" by dumbocrats.

It's just concrete evidence that the entire dumbocrat party has been hijacked by the most radical socialists, marxists, communists, etc. The actual liberal (ie the rational liberal) is the extreme minority in this fucked up party.

You can't repeatedly lower taxes every time you think the economy needs a boost because eventually you end up with taxes at zero.

...but spending more money you DON'T HAVE can be done anytime you like!! RIGHT?

Your reply has nothing to do with what I said. What is wrong with you?
 
Imagine telling a bunch of liberal democrats "ask not what your Country can do for you".

That was a call for public service not a condemnation of helping the poor like conservatives try to twist it
 
Can we get the teabaggers to sign up to this?

If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." JFK Acceptance of the New York Liberal Party nomination (14 September 1960)
 
Forget JFK, the Hussein says you don't raise taxes:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aufAtuTwKlE]FLASHBACK: Obama Says You Don't Raise Taxes In A Recession - YouTube[/ame]


So liberals, its ok for Obama to support "tax cuts for the rich", its just not OK for Republicans to.
 
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If the Kennedy tax rates were so great, why aren't conservatives like you arguing to put them back?

Perhaps you should also look at (once again) what was deemed income, what was deductible, etc... or just look at the effective tax rate...

What next?? Another call for the "90% rate"?

Why don't you just tell us what the effective tax rate for Americans was in the 60's.
 
Imagine telling a bunch of liberal democrats "ask not what your Country can do for you".

Same speech....

If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. Inaugural Address (20 January 1961)
 
All the evidence you need to illustrate how the dumbocrat party has been completely and totally hijacked by unhinged socialists, marxists, and communists.

If someone today suggests tax cuts because it's proven to correct a struggling economy, you're now attacked as a "wing-nut teabagger" by radicals right out of Atlas Shrugged (scary just how much Ayn Rand's novel has come to fruition). Yet here is the party's ultimate "golden boy" clearly stating this fact!

JFK: The Case For Tax Cuts : Paul Williams : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

If Kennedy was alive and running for president he would never be elected or at least he would not be a democrat
He was very pro second amendment.

How did that work out for him?
 
Can we get the teabaggers to sign up to this?

If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." JFK Acceptance of the New York Liberal Party nomination (14 September 1960)

Read some of his quotes dummy. JFK was no Liberal by today's standards.
He wouldn't have anything to do with any of him.
Read JFKs famous quotes - and there are many. Sounds hard-core conservative.
He was.
So put your mouth back on Harry Reid's dick and suck harder.
 
Can we get the teabaggers to sign up to this?

If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." JFK Acceptance of the New York Liberal Party nomination (14 September 1960)

Read some of his quotes dummy. JFK was no Liberal by today's standards.
He wouldn't have anything to do with any of him.
Read JFKs famous quotes - and there are many. Sounds hard-core conservative.
He was.
So put your mouth back on Harry Reid's dick and suck harder.

If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. JFK Inaugural Address (20 January 1961)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_Corps
 
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Can we get the teabaggers to sign up to this?

If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." JFK Acceptance of the New York Liberal Party nomination (14 September 1960)

Read some of his quotes dummy. JFK was no Liberal by today's standards.
He wouldn't have anything to do with any of him.
Read JFKs famous quotes - and there are many. Sounds hard-core conservative.
He was.
So put your mouth back on Harry Reid's dick and suck harder.

Here are the 'liberal' elements of Kennedy's 'New Frontier' program, the policy basis for his presidency:


1.The addition of a temporary thirteen-week supplement to jobless benefits,
2.The extension of aid to the children of unemployed workers,
3.The redevelopment of distressed areas,
4.An increase in Social Security payments and the encouragement of earlier retirement,
5.An increase in the minimum wage and an extension in coverage,
6.The provision of emergency relief to feed grain farmers, and
7.The financing of a comprehensive homebuilding and slum clearance program.

Amendments to the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1961 greatly expanded the FLSA's scope in the retail trade sector and increased the minimum wage for previously covered workers to $1.15 an hour effective September 1961 and to $1.25 an hour in September 1963.

An Executive Order was issued (1962) which provided federal employees with collective bargaining rights.

A Postal Service and Federal Employees Salary Act was passed (1962) to reform Federal white-collar statutory salary systems, adjust postal rates, and establish a standard for adjusting annuities under the Civil Service Retirement Act.[17] This legislation marked the first time that a consistent guideline for regular increases was applied to the national pay scales for federal white-collar and postal employees.

The Contract Work Hours and Safety Standards Act (1962) established “standards for hours, overtime compensation, and safety for employees working on federal and federally funded contracts and subcontracts”.[

A pilot program was launched to train and place youths in jobs.

Paid overtime was granted to workers on government financed construction jobs for work in excess of 40 hours.

Scholarships and student loans were broadened under existing laws by Kennedy, and new means of specialised aid to education were invented or expanded by the president, including an increase in funds for libraries and school lunches, the provision of funds to teach the deaf, the handicapped, the retarded, and the exceptional child, the authorisation of literacy training under Manpower Development, the allocation of President funds to stop dropouts, a quadrupling of vocational education, and working together with schools on delinquency.

The Educational Television Facilities Act (1962) provided federal grants for new station construction, enabling in-class-room instructional television to operate in thousands of elementary schools, offering primarily religious instruction, music, and arts.

The Health Professions Educational Assistance Act (1963) provided $175 million over a three-year period for matching grants for the construction of facilities for teaching physicians, dentists, nurses, podiatrists, optometrists, pharmacists, and other health professionals. The Act also created a loan program of up to $2000 per annum for students of optometry, dentistry, and medicine.

The Vocational Education Act (1963) significantly increased enrollment in vocational education.

A law was enacted (1961) to encourage and facilitate the training of teachers of the deaf.

The Fulbright-Hays Act of 1961 enlarged the scope of the Fulbright program while extending it geographically.

An estimated one-third of all major New Frontier programs made some form of education a vital element, and the Office of Education called it “the most significant legislative period in its hundred-year history”.

And on and on.

Keep reading here:

New Frontier - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then come back and tell us how Kennedy qualifies as a nowadays Republican.
 
Can you imagine today's "Liberals" mumbling this...

"And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."
 
All the evidence you need to illustrate how the dumbocrat party has been completely and totally hijacked by unhinged socialists, marxists, and communists.

If someone today suggests tax cuts because it's proven to correct a struggling economy, you're now attacked as a "wing-nut teabagger" by radicals right out of Atlas Shrugged (scary just how much Ayn Rand's novel has come to fruition). Yet here is the party's ultimate "golden boy" clearly stating this fact!

JFK: The Case For Tax Cuts : Paul Williams : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

If Kennedy was alive and running for president he would never be elected or at least he would not be a democrat
He was very pro second amendment.

How did that work out for him?

That would depend on who was responsible and who supplied the weaponry and ammunition. I think it's safe to say that the NRA had No involvement with the Kennedy Assassination. His death had nothing to do with the Second Amendment. ;) :cuckoo:

Thanks for the funny. ;)
 
Can you imagine today's "Liberals" mumbling this...

"And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."

Why not?

It was a call for public service and was used to justify the establishment of the Peace Corps
 
All the evidence you need to illustrate how the dumbocrat party has been completely and totally hijacked by unhinged socialists, marxists, and communists.

If someone today suggests tax cuts because it's proven to correct a struggling economy, you're now attacked as a "wing-nut teabagger" by radicals right out of Atlas Shrugged (scary just how much Ayn Rand's novel has come to fruition). Yet here is the party's ultimate "golden boy" clearly stating this fact!

JFK: The Case For Tax Cuts : Paul Williams : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

JFK v Reagan/Demand-side v Supply-side

I often see right wing nitwits using the tax cut policies of JFK and see them equating them with the Tax policies of Reagan. I see many younger people being puzzled by this. As usual, the right is only using a bit of truth wrapped in horseshit.

JFK, the demand-side tax cutter. - By David Greenberg - Slate Magazine

So, was Kennedy really a forerunner to Reagan and Bush? Or are supply-siders just cynically appropriating his aura? The Republicans are right, up to a point. Kennedy did push tax cuts, and his plan, which passed in February 1964, three months after his death, did help spur economic growth. But they're wrong to see the tax reduction as a supply-side cut, like Reagan's and Bush's; it was a demand-side cut. "The Revenue Act of 1964 was aimed at the demand, rather than the supply, side of the economy," said Arthur Okun, one of Kennedy's economic advisers.

This distinction, taught in Economics 101, seldom makes it into the Washington sound-bite wars. A demand-side cut rests on the Keynesian theory that public consumption spurs economic activity. Government puts money in people's hands, as a temporary measure, so that they'll spend it. A supply-side cut sees business investment as the key to growth. Government gives money to businesses and wealthy individuals to invest, ultimately benefiting all Americans. Back in the early 1960s, tax cutting was as contentious as it is today, but it was liberal demand-siders who were calling for the cuts and generating the controversy.

The notion of Kennedy as supply-side forerunner is a powerful myth, but it is a myth. Context is key. Conservatives love to quote a speech Kennedy gave at the Economic Club of New York in December 1962. Here's one quote—I've italicized the crucial part often left out: "Our present tax system, developed as it was, in good part, during World War II to restrain growth, exerts too heavy a drag on growth in peace time; that it siphons out of the private economy too large a share of personal and business purchasing power; that it reduces the financial incentives for personal effort, investment, and risk-taking." JFK was not expounding an implacable economic philosophy; he was speaking about a very specific circumstance. The top marginal tax rate was 91 percent, which JFK wanted reduced to a "more sensible" 65 percent. Compare that with today's 35 percent top rate, and ask: If supply-siders are so enamored of JFK's tax policies, would they advocate a return to a "more sensible" 65 percent top rate? Applying Kennedy's tax talk to the current structure, JFK biographer Robert Dallek says, is like comparing "apples and watermelons."

[See editorial cartoons about the economy.]

Another important piece of context is the thinking behind the tax cuts. Kennedy's economic policies were rooted in a Keynesian belief in the stimulative effects of budget deficits. While FDR and his aides had embraced countercyclical deficits as necessary in times of recession or depression, Kennedy was the first to advocate planned deficits in a time of neither war nor economic emergency. The aim was for the tax cuts to stimulate demand, driving the economy from the bottom up.

Republicans, by contrast, argued that while tax cuts were desirable, running an $11 billion deficit, "with no hope of a balanced budget for the foreseeable future, is both morally and fiscally wrong." That balanced-budget fixation was the ruling GOP philosophy until the rise of supply-side economics, which saw tax cuts as a way to boost investment (the supply side versus the Keynesian demand side) by helping the wealthy and business. Deficits were handled with the magical declaration that tax cuts pay for themselves.
:eusa_whistle: The Myth of JFK as Supply Side Tax Cutter - US News and World Report
 

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