Jimmy Carter was not the worst president we ever had.

[the other mike]

The happiest day of Jimmy Carter's life was when Obama was elected. He knew that worthless affirmative action negro was going to kick him right out of last place and Jimmy was right.

Nah.
Obama was just a puppet.

 

[Oldestyle]

He was establishing a foundation to build from after we had been drained economically and spiritually by 3 solid decades of wars. His biggest failure was underestimating the ruthlessness of his political opponents. He should have been a fighter like Trump is.

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Jimmy Carter was many things but a fighter was never one of them! He was the milquetoast leader Americans turned to after the Nixon years. I think Carter was and is an honorable man, Angelo but he was in way over his head as President!

 

[Indeependent]

GW was the worst; especially starting from his 2nd term.
Obama was simply in over his head; but look at the shit show both parties handed over to him.

 

[Andylusion]

It's my opinion that this rhetoric has been repeated so often that Americans generally believe it to be true, that Carter was the worst president, even though it's obviously not true to anyone with an honest perspective of history.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/opinion/jimmy-carters-unheralded-legacy.html

Call it historical perspective, call it acquired wisdom, call it simple nostalgia, but most things tend to look better in the rear view mirror. Take the hapless Jimmy Carter administration for example. Arguably, among the (many) negative things Carter will be remembered for are runaway inflation, the Iran hostage debacle, and questionable deregulation of the transportation, communication, and financial industries.

Vilified by the Republicans and mocked by the Democrats, Carter reached the point where he was regarded by his own party as such a political liability that they (in the person of Ted Kennedy) tried to torpedo him in the 1980 primary. Not something you do to a successful incumbent.

But despite the bad memories, Carter accomplished some fairly important things during his single term in office — things that, given the near-paralytic gridlock that defines today’s politics, seem all the more impressive in hindsight. Here are ten of them.

1. Created the Department of Energy. The DOE provided the administration with the bureaucratic chops to formulate and implement what could have been a comprehensive, long-term national energy strategy. Had Carter’s aggressive gas mileage standards continued to be pursued by subsequent administrations, we would today — 30-odd years later — be dramatically less dependent on Saudi oil.

2. Created the Department of Education. Despite howls from anti-government groups who opposed yet another federal agency, the decision to carve out Education from the already over-burdened Department. of Health, Education and Welfare (now the Department of Health and Human Services) was a bold and necessary one.

3. Supported SALT II (Strategic Arms Limitations Talks). It sounds trivial today, but in the 1970s a nuclear non-proliferation pact, even a flawed one, was seen as an important step in forging a lasting peace with the USSR. A generation ago, people were genuinely frightened of a nuclear holocaust. Although Carter and Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev signed the agreement, the U.S. Congress, in the wake of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, refused to ratify it.

4. Brokered the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. By initiating the Camp David Accords between Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin and Egyptian President Anwar Sadat (which led directly to the landmark treaty), Carter laid the groundwork for improved Israeli-Arab relations. That good relations in the region never materialized wasn’t Carter’s fault.

5. Installed solar panels in the White House. This was not only a practical gesture, but a symbolic one as well, demonstrating to the world that America was serious about conserving energy, and that conservation does, indeed, begin at home. Alas, Ronald Reagan believed solar panels made the United States look pathetic and needy, and had them removed.


6. Boycotted the 1980 Olympics. In response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Carter boycotted the Moscow games, a decision that earned him ridicule and scorn, even though Japan, West Germany, China, Canada, et al, supported his decision. Boycotts are unpredictable. Some work, most don’t. Still, who knows what would have happened if the world had boycotted the 2004 Olympics to protest of the U.S. invasion of Iraq? It might have made a difference.

7. Granted amnesty to Vietnam draft-dodgers. Even though Carter issued these unconditional pardons on January 21, 1977 (his first day in office), the political fallout was severe enough to cost him votes in the 1980 election. Controversial as it was, this gutsy call helped move the country forward, providing closure to one of the most divisive issues in American history.

8. Established diplomatic relations with China. Officially transferring U.S. diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to mainland China seems like a no-brainer today, but in the year 1979 it was a singularly progressive move.

9. Pushed for comprehensive health care reform. Carter’s plan was bigger, better, cheaper and — right out of the blocks — had a greater chance of passing in its original form than either Clinton’s or Obama’s plan, but inertia, timidity, and old-fashioned politics (both Democratic and Republican) ultimately killed it.

10. Returned the Panama Canal to Panama. Another gutsy move that surely cost him votes. By ceding the canal to tiny Panama, the mighty U.S. looked confident and magnanimous.... instead of paranoid and petty. Although Carter was able to secure bipartisan support, of the 20 senators who voted in favor of the treaty, and were up for re-election, only 7 were re-elected.

10 Good Things President Carter Did | HuffPost

First, Carter was not the worst president in all US history. But he was most certainly the worst in 50 years, although Obama is pretty close.

1. The regulations and restrictions we have today, because of the DOE, is still causing problems in our energy policy to this day.

2. Department of Education, is a terrible agency that needs eliminated.

3. SALT was not ratified because the Russians proved they had no intention of abiding by it, which is exactly what people warned Carter about, and Carter ignored them.

4. Partial credit to Carter on this one. Sadat attacked Israel and lost the Sinai. Sadat wanted the Sinai back, and peace. Sadat initiated contact with Israel. Sadat initiated contact with Carter. Carter invited Sadat and Begin, to Camp David. Carter had the absolutely least influence, and least involvement in the entire process. Nevertheless, for what little bit he did.... I'll give him the little credit he deserves.

5. A massive waste of money, that made the white house, a world wide historical building, into something looking like trailer trash with Christmas lights on year round.

6. Generally I think it was a bad move. For what purpose? Nothing. All he did was wreck some athletes dreams, who trained their whole lives for a chance at the Olympics and didn't go.

7. Yeah, grant amnesty to law breakers. Seems like that's the entire Democrat party. No wonder you can write a jacked up article like this, and thing you have a point.

8. It cracks me up that left-wingers across the country, were screaming about how China was stealing our jobs, and then turn around and praise Carter for making that possible.

9. Given how every regulation and government involvement in health care, all the way to Obama care, has caused the cost of care to increase... Carter's plan was not a good one.

10. This one isn't a negative or a positive. It is just a thing. If you are telling me that out of everything Carter did, that this was one of his big top 10 accomplishments.... then that speaks volumes about what a lousy president he was, if this is counted as a major accomplishment.

 

[Scamp]

Lincoln was the worst at violating the Constitution.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The happiest day of Jimmy Carter's life was when Obama was elected. He knew that worthless affirmative action negro was going to kick him right out of last place and Jimmy was right.

The happiest day of Jimmy Carter's life was when Obama was elected. He knew that worthless affirmative action negro was going to kick him right out of last place and Jimmy was right.

coming from a hypocrite troll who always evades facts the republicans are as corrupt as the democrats are and blames everything on that party,mr non objective and mr biased here,guess it must be true then

 

[the other mike]

Jimmy Carter was many things but a fighter was never one of them! He was the milquetoast leader Americans turned to after the Nixon years. I think Carter was and is an honorable man, Angelo but he was in way over his head as President!

Trump said he would have taken Iran's oil over the hostage crisis.
And I'd follow that with a "haha just kidding", if it wasn't true.
(1:00 to 1:45)

 

[initforme]

I didn't like Carter and was no fan of Reagan either. A shill for corporate America and screw the worker.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

It's my opinion that this rhetoric has been repeated so often that Americans generally believe it to be true, that Carter was the worst president, even though it's obviously not true to anyone with an honest perspective of history.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/opinion/jimmy-carters-unheralded-legacy.html

Call it historical perspective, call it acquired wisdom, call it simple nostalgia, but most things tend to look better in the rear view mirror. Take the hapless Jimmy Carter administration for example. Arguably, among the (many) negative things Carter will be remembered for are runaway inflation, the Iran hostage debacle, and questionable deregulation of the transportation, communication, and financial industries.

Vilified by the Republicans and mocked by the Democrats, Carter reached the point where he was regarded by his own party as such a political liability that they (in the person of Ted Kennedy) tried to torpedo him in the 1980 primary. Not something you do to a successful incumbent.

But despite the bad memories, Carter accomplished some fairly important things during his single term in office — things that, given the near-paralytic gridlock that defines today’s politics, seem all the more impressive in hindsight. Here are ten of them.

1. Created the Department of Energy. The DOE provided the administration with the bureaucratic chops to formulate and implement what could have been a comprehensive, long-term national energy strategy. Had Carter’s aggressive gas mileage standards continued to be pursued by subsequent administrations, we would today — 30-odd years later — be dramatically less dependent on Saudi oil.

2. Created the Department of Education. Despite howls from anti-government groups who opposed yet another federal agency, the decision to carve out Education from the already over-burdened Department. of Health, Education and Welfare (now the Department of Health and Human Services) was a bold and necessary one.

3. Supported SALT II (Strategic Arms Limitations Talks). It sounds trivial today, but in the 1970s a nuclear non-proliferation pact, even a flawed one, was seen as an important step in forging a lasting peace with the USSR. A generation ago, people were genuinely frightened of a nuclear holocaust. Although Carter and Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev signed the agreement, the U.S. Congress, in the wake of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, refused to ratify it.

4. Brokered the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. By initiating the Camp David Accords between Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin and Egyptian President Anwar Sadat (which led directly to the landmark treaty), Carter laid the groundwork for improved Israeli-Arab relations. That good relations in the region never materialized wasn’t Carter’s fault.

5. Installed solar panels in the White House. This was not only a practical gesture, but a symbolic one as well, demonstrating to the world that America was serious about conserving energy, and that conservation does, indeed, begin at home. Alas, Ronald Reagan believed solar panels made the United States look pathetic and needy, and had them removed.


6. Boycotted the 1980 Olympics. In response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Carter boycotted the Moscow games, a decision that earned him ridicule and scorn, even though Japan, West Germany, China, Canada, et al, supported his decision. Boycotts are unpredictable. Some work, most don’t. Still, who knows what would have happened if the world had boycotted the 2004 Olympics to protest of the U.S. invasion of Iraq? It might have made a difference.

7. Granted amnesty to Vietnam draft-dodgers. Even though Carter issued these unconditional pardons on January 21, 1977 (his first day in office), the political fallout was severe enough to cost him votes in the 1980 election. Controversial as it was, this gutsy call helped move the country forward, providing closure to one of the most divisive issues in American history.

8. Established diplomatic relations with China. Officially transferring U.S. diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to mainland China seems like a no-brainer today, but in the year 1979 it was a singularly progressive move.

9. Pushed for comprehensive health care reform. Carter’s plan was bigger, better, cheaper and — right out of the blocks — had a greater chance of passing in its original form than either Clinton’s or Obama’s plan, but inertia, timidity, and old-fashioned politics (both Democratic and Republican) ultimately killed it.

10. Returned the Panama Canal to Panama. Another gutsy move that surely cost him votes. By ceding the canal to tiny Panama, the mighty U.S. looked confident and magnanimous.... instead of paranoid and petty. Although Carter was able to secure bipartisan support, of the 20 senators who voted in favor of the treaty, and were up for re-election, only 7 were re-elected.

10 Good Things President Carter Did | HuffPost

I suppose it depends on your perspective.

1. DoEnergy - Horrible bureaucracy set up to take control over the means of production.
2. DoEducation - same, but allows the communist ideals to be streamlined in all aspects of education, which is why we have a bunch of commie idiot children running around blowing shit up right now.
3. SALT - was not effective until Reagan's racist ass took over. Reagan only looked good as POTUS because Carter looked so god awful.
4. Dude fucked up all kinds of foreign policy with Israel and the middle east. I don't even want to hear it. He fucking sucked. Hostages?
5. Solar panels - Well, Yippykayay. What the fuck? Waste of fucking money in the 1980s because they were way too inefficient and not practical. 6. Olympics - Meh. Who gives a fuck?
7. Amnesty to Draft-Dodgers - Not really fair, given the people who actually were drafted and served. No wonder it pissed a lot of people off. My dad included. My cousin, had he not been killed in action. Fuck those assholes and fuck Carter. They should have at least had a felony record if no time served.
8. Relations with China was the worst move ever. That did nothing but sow the seeds of potential demise. Horrible decision.
9. Health care commie. Fuck Carter. He may be the sole cause for ridiculous cost increases.
10. Returning the canal we built and paid for---FOR FREE???? NOTHING IN RETURN? What a fucking asshole. He was goddamn useless. It was abundantly clear that Carter wanted to sink the U.S. from the beginning.

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[LA RAM FAN]

War wankers got nothing to wank with in the Carter years. For the rest of us any head of state who "fails" to take us into yet another war gets an automatic 50 bonus points on that alone. They shouldn't, but since we've made war the norm rather than the exception, everybody kind of starts 50 points in the hole until they shake it off.

That's what's behind this propaganda. They need to instill the value that war is somehow a "good thing". Carter didn't do it, therefore "not good". Sometimes propaganda is really sick when you look under the hood.

Pogo you are making way too much sense here for the brainwashed sheep cater hates to comprehend

 

[LA RAM FAN]

America had already lost respect . Slavery, genocide, hegemony, the massacre we call the Vietnam War...etc.
Carter was seen as the peaceful guy who would change all that.

And the brainwashed sheep at usmb can’t understand that is WHY they have fallen for the propaganda by the corporate controlled media hook,line,and sinker,that he was the worst ever,they won’t look at the facts tha pogo took mud troll to school and checkmated him on is the long lines of gas and economic recession problems we had were caused by Nixon.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I know right? Always confining myself to them "facts".

Facts are BORING.

The carter haters have no use for facts since they smash to pieces their warped opinions carter was the worst.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You are the reason I started this thread - people like you who are certain all your facts are correct when you're actually dead wrong.

 

[Oldestyle]

GW was the worst; especially starting from his 2nd term.
Obama was simply in over his head; but look at the shit show both parties handed over to him.

I've always thought that the hardest job as a "manager" is taking over from someone when things are going great because chances are they won't stay that way for long! Life has a way of doing that. Chances are you're going to be remembered as the guy who was sitting in the Head Chair when things went South!

Conversely...if you're really good at the job...then the best time to take over is when things are at their worst. You'll be remembered as the guy on the White Charger who rode in and saved the day!

W. got handed an economy on the downslope after the Dot Com Boom had run it's course, 9/11 and a press corps that hated his guts! It doesn't get much worse than that! Barack Obama on the other hand had been given TARP funds to play with (which Bush took the hit for politically), lots of stimulus money, a relatively stable Middle East and a fawning press corps. He really was given a perfect opportunity to look like a superstar. In my opinion he blew that when he chose to go after things like Obama Care and Cap & Trade legislation while ignoring millions of people who were out of work and really hurting.

 

[alang1216]

Indeed,people who think carter was worse than the bush’s are complete idiots. People who say Obama was the worst president ever I have no problem with,but at least if you want to talk about the two,worst everday something TRUTHFUL that Obama and BUSH were the two worst ever.obams policys were exactly like bush’s after all enough of this asinine talk though that carter is up there with Obama as worst ever crap though. The people that say carter and Obama are the worst are obviously racist who hate blacks.

Carter was a good candidate but a mediocre president
Reagan was a great candidate but a mediocre president
Bush I was a mediocre candidate but a pretty good president
Clinton was a great candidate and a great president
Bush II was a mediocre candidate and the worst president in my lifetime
Obama was a great candidate and a great president
Trump was great candidate and a terrible president

We should choose our presidents by lottery, there seems to be no connection between good candidates and good presidents.

 

[the other mike]

And the brainwashed sheep at usmb can’t understand that is WHY they have fallen for the propaganda by the corporate controlled media hook,line,and sinker,that he was the worst ever,they won’t look at the facts tha pogo took mud troll to school and checkmated him on is the long lines of gas and economic recession problems we had were caused by Nixon.

Nixon did some bad things like Cambodia and starting the war on drugs, but he did a few good things like starting the EPA at a time when we were trashing the environment....I grew up near the Cuyahoga River in Ohio and saw it first hand.

They flooded this area and made it a National Park.

 

[Dick Foster]

It's my opinion that this rhetoric has been repeated so often that Americans generally believe it to be true, that Carter was the worst president, even though it's obviously not true to anyone with an honest perspective of history.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/opinion/jimmy-carters-unheralded-legacy.html

Call it historical perspective, call it acquired wisdom, call it simple nostalgia, but most things tend to look better in the rear view mirror. Take the hapless Jimmy Carter administration for example. Arguably, among the (many) negative things Carter will be remembered for are runaway inflation, the Iran hostage debacle, and questionable deregulation of the transportation, communication, and financial industries.

Vilified by the Republicans and mocked by the Democrats, Carter reached the point where he was regarded by his own party as such a political liability that they (in the person of Ted Kennedy) tried to torpedo him in the 1980 primary. Not something you do to a successful incumbent.

But despite the bad memories, Carter accomplished some fairly important things during his single term in office — things that, given the near-paralytic gridlock that defines today’s politics, seem all the more impressive in hindsight. Here are ten of them.

1. Created the Department of Energy. The DOE provided the administration with the bureaucratic chops to formulate and implement what could have been a comprehensive, long-term national energy strategy. Had Carter’s aggressive gas mileage standards continued to be pursued by subsequent administrations, we would today — 30-odd years later — be dramatically less dependent on Saudi oil.

2. Created the Department of Education. Despite howls from anti-government groups who opposed yet another federal agency, the decision to carve out Education from the already over-burdened Department. of Health, Education and Welfare (now the Department of Health and Human Services) was a bold and necessary one.

3. Supported SALT II (Strategic Arms Limitations Talks). It sounds trivial today, but in the 1970s a nuclear non-proliferation pact, even a flawed one, was seen as an important step in forging a lasting peace with the USSR. A generation ago, people were genuinely frightened of a nuclear holocaust. Although Carter and Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev signed the agreement, the U.S. Congress, in the wake of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, refused to ratify it.

4. Brokered the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. By initiating the Camp David Accords between Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin and Egyptian President Anwar Sadat (which led directly to the landmark treaty), Carter laid the groundwork for improved Israeli-Arab relations. That good relations in the region never materialized wasn’t Carter’s fault.

5. Installed solar panels in the White House. This was not only a practical gesture, but a symbolic one as well, demonstrating to the world that America was serious about conserving energy, and that conservation does, indeed, begin at home. Alas, Ronald Reagan believed solar panels made the United States look pathetic and needy, and had them removed.


6. Boycotted the 1980 Olympics. In response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Carter boycotted the Moscow games, a decision that earned him ridicule and scorn, even though Japan, West Germany, China, Canada, et al, supported his decision. Boycotts are unpredictable. Some work, most don’t. Still, who knows what would have happened if the world had boycotted the 2004 Olympics to protest of the U.S. invasion of Iraq? It might have made a difference.

7. Granted amnesty to Vietnam draft-dodgers. Even though Carter issued these unconditional pardons on January 21, 1977 (his first day in office), the political fallout was severe enough to cost him votes in the 1980 election. Controversial as it was, this gutsy call helped move the country forward, providing closure to one of the most divisive issues in American history.

8. Established diplomatic relations with China. Officially transferring U.S. diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to mainland China seems like a no-brainer today, but in the year 1979 it was a singularly progressive move.

9. Pushed for comprehensive health care reform. Carter’s plan was bigger, better, cheaper and — right out of the blocks — had a greater chance of passing in its original form than either Clinton’s or Obama’s plan, but inertia, timidity, and old-fashioned politics (both Democratic and Republican) ultimately killed it.

10. Returned the Panama Canal to Panama. Another gutsy move that surely cost him votes. By ceding the canal to tiny Panama, the mighty U.S. looked confident and magnanimous.... instead of paranoid and petty. Although Carter was able to secure bipartisan support, of the 20 senators who voted in favor of the treaty, and were up for re-election, only 7 were re-elected.

10 Good Things President Carter Did | HuffPost

I don't think so either. Although I was never a fan of any democratic president and damn few republicans I think that while he was largely ineffective Carter was at least a sincere and honest man. Much more so than anyone could ever say about a Clinton or Obama. I used to say LBJ was the worst then the assholes came up with Clinton to bump LBJ out of the bottom slot. Then when I thought they couldn't possibly do any worse they came up with Obama just to prove that they could stoop even lower. Now I won't put anything past them because they're working hard to scrape even lower levels of shit and slime out of the bottom of the barrel.

 

[Andylusion]

I didn't like Carter and was no fan of Reagan either. A shill for corporate America and screw the worker.

How does letting workers keep more of their own earned income... a "screw the worker" view?

 

[Flash]

coming from a hypocrite troll who always evades facts the republicans are as corrupt as the democrats are and blames everything on that party,mr non objective and mr biased here,guess it must be true then

Democrats ate the scum of this country.

Since the end of WWII our worst Presdients have been the Democrat assholes. Scumbags like JFK, LBJ and Slick Willy. Incompetent dickheads like Carter and Obama.

 

[Oldestyle]

Trump said he would have taken Iran's oil over the hostage crisis.
And I'd follow that with a "haha just kidding", if it wasn't true.
(1:00 to 1:45)

Trump is a New Yorker, Angelo! Hard to find a group of people that are more "in your face" than that group! He's always going to threaten. It's how down and dirty business is conducted and if you've done New York City real estate deals then you're doing down and dirty business with people. I see the same thing when he "negotiates" over things like how much money other countries are putting into NATO! He tells them they need to spend a lot more than they are or the US is pulling out of NATO and they'll be left to support what's left themselves! Everyone goes ballistic because of the threat to pull out of NATO and the NATO countries pony up the money that they should be! It's not my style but it works for Trump!