Jimmy Carter says Mideast peace is 'vanishing'

[kvetch]

I agree that he was better than Khomeini et al - but then perhaps he should not have helped bring them to power.

The only person who can take any responsibility for the fall of the Shah - is the Shah. He did it all to himself - as so many despots do.

Of course it was the US that removed the elected government and installed the Shah in 1953.

Yup, he was a Socialist and the US and the West could not take the chance with the Cold War raging back then. Besides how do you know those elections were "fair" and Mossadegh wasn't a Communist plant?

because Mossadegh was a conservative, that's why

not a left wing cell or bone in his body

an aristocrat, a feudal landowner, I think.............look him up

all he asked BP ...then it was the Iran Petroleum Co.for .....very politely.....was the same level of royalties that Saudi was getting from Aramco, the USA Oil Co....50%

when he was refused viciously, it all escalated

if BP had been human and not the greedy buggers we know them to be, Iran could be a conservative democracy to this day

and the heirs to a great civilisation of persia which freed the jews from babylon and put israel back on the map, not threatening to wipe it off the bloody map!!

 

[Roudy]

Saigon----I have no need to go to India---

That tells us all we will ever need to know, Rosie, thanks.

You choose to be ignorant.

I have wanted to travel to India. I hear it's quite filthy, smelly, disease ridden, impoverished, and very crowded. I'd rather take my chances elsewhere, than sit in a filthy hotel room in India with 104 degree fever (which is exactly what happened toa business friend of mine) or puking non stop from food / water poisoning, praying to stay alive and that I will never set foot there again.

Health Information for Travelers to India - Travelers' Health - CDC

Malaria

Areas of India with Malaria: All areas throughout the country, including cities of Bombay (Mumbai) and Delhi, except none in areas >2,000 m (6,561 ft) in Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, and Sikkim. (more information)

If you will be visiting an area of India with malaria, you will need to discuss with your doctor the best ways for you to avoid getting sick with malaria. Ways to prevent malaria include the following:
• Taking a prescription antimalarial drug
• Using insect repellent and wearing long pants and sleeves to prevent mosquito bites
• Sleeping in air-conditioned or well-screened rooms or using bednets

All of the following antimalarial drugs are equal options for preventing malaria in India: Atovaquone-proguanil, doxycycline, or mefloquine. For detailed information about each of these drugs, see Table 3-11: Drugs used in the prophylaxis of malaria. For information that can help you and your doctor decide which of these drugs would be best for you, please see Choosing a Drug to Prevent Malaria.

Note: Chloroquine is NOT an effective antimalarial drug in India and should not be taken to prevent malaria in this region.

(MMR) vaccine, diphtheria/pertussis/tetanus (DPT) vaccine, poliovirus vaccine, etc.
Other Diseases Found in South Asia
Risk can vary between countries within this region and also within a country; the quality of in-country surveillance also varies.

The following are disease risks that might affect travelers; this is not a complete list of diseases that can be present. Environmental conditions may also change, and up to date information about risk by regions within a country may also not always be available.

Dengue fever has caused epidemics in most South Asian countries. In 2005-2006, an outbreak of chikungunya affected thousands of persons in India. Filariasis is common. A sharp rise in the incidence of visceral leishmaniasis has been observed in several South Asian countries. Cutaneous leishmaniasis is present in Afghanistan (where it has infected US troops). Japanese encephalitis occurs widely except in mountainous areas of South Asia. Protecting yourself against insect bites (see below) will help to prevent these diseases.

Leptospirosis, a bacterial infection often contracted through recreational water activities in contaminated water, is common in tropical areas of the South Asia region.

Indigenous wild polio was present in 2005-2006 in India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan; cases from Bangladesh and Nepal were confirmed in 2005-2006.

Measles occurs in the South Asia region and can be a source of infection for unvaccinated travelers.

Highly pathogenic avian influenza (H5N1) continues to cause outbreaks in domestic and wild bird populations and has caused human cases in several South Asian countries. Avoid all direct contact with birds, including domestic poultry (such as chickens and ducks) and wild birds, and avoid places such as poultry farms and bird markets where live birds are raised or kept. For a current list of countries reporting outbreaks of H5N1 among poultry and/or wild birds, view updates from the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE), and for total numbers of confirmed human cases of H5N1 virus by country see the World Health Organization (WHO) Avian Influenza website.


Hepatitis A or immune globulin (IG)

Recommended for all unvaccinated people traveling to or working in countries with an intermediate or high level of hepatitis A virus infection (see map) where exposure might occur through food or water. Cases of travel-related hepatitis A can also occur in travelers to developing countries with "standard" tourist itineraries, accommodations, and food consumption behaviors.
Hepatitis B

Recommended for all unvaccinated persons traveling to or working in countries with intermediate to high levels of endemic HBV transmission (see map), especially those who might be exposed to blood or body fluids, have sexual contact with the local population, or be exposed through medical treatment (e.g., for an accident).

Typhoid

Recommended for all unvaccinated people traveling to or working in South Asia, especially if staying with friends or relatives or visiting smaller cities, villages, or rural areas where exposure might occur through food or water.

 

[Roudy]

Of course it was the US that removed the elected government and installed the Shah in 1953.

Yup, he was a Socialist and the US and the West could not take the chance with the Cold War raging back then. Besides how do you know those elections were "fair" and Mossadegh wasn't a Communist plant?

because Mossadegh was a conservative, that's why

not a left wing cell or bone in his body

an aristocrat, a feudal landowner, I think.............look him up

all he asked BP ...then it was the Iran Petroleum Co.for .....very politely.....was the same level of royalties that Saudi was getting from Aramco, the USA Oil Co....50%

when he was refused viciously, it all escalated

if BP had been human and not the greedy buggers we know them to be, Iran could be a conservative democracy to this day

and the heirs to a great civilisation of persia which freed the jews from babylon and put israel back on the map, not threatening to wipe it off the bloody map!!

I had friends and family members who actually protested FOR Mossadegh when they were young students who had Marxist and Communist tendencies. Years later they now admit they were rooting for the wrong person and are now extremely pro Shah.

 

[Roudy]

Israel is also up to its eyes in the bloody conflict diamond industry in congo, sierra leone, etc

It has imported a good part of the jewish russian and east european mafias (e.g. Lieberann, ambassador to putin but no-one else!!)

It has the ecstasy drug industry

AND Israel has many wonderful people

I get more of my info from HONEST israelis than anyone else

NONE from muslim sources; they don't do hasbara, just genocidal crap

DONT say Jews ate african babies..it aint no blood libel

sadly ............very very sadly..............these are facts

mostly the israelis were used and abused by the USA...the CIA and the French to do their dirty work for them and together with them

France...in exchange for help with nuclear weapons
USA for political help and much else besides

all to keep the world free.............?????

What you are saying is that Israel like all other countries has it's fair share of evil men who will do anything for a profit. That's not news.

 

[Roudy]

wrong again---Saigon------whether the Shah's mistakes or weaknesses were factors in that led to the success of the disgusting PIG KHOMEINI to gain power in Iran-----the fact is that KHOMEINI was responsible for the stinking filth of Khomeini you want to claim that adolf's nasty father CREATED ADOLF?

The Shah's biggest mistake was that he was not as brutal and savage as the rulers in his neighboring countries. Instead of exiling Khomieni to Iraq, he should have executed the scum, and rid the world of an Islamic Hitler. The Shah was soft, unlike his father who rose to power as a military general. He himself claimed that the reason he left Iran so quickly after the protests started was because he didn't want to slaughter his people and have their blood on his hands. Gadaffi and Sadam died in their countries after hundreds of thousands of dead and tortured fellow countrymen, and Assad is still butchering his people. The Shah had a conscience.

 

[kvetch]

Saigon----I have no need to go to India---

That tells us all we will ever need to know, Rosie, thanks.

You choose to be ignorant.

I have wanted to travel to India. I hear it's quite filthy, smelly, disease ridden, impoverished, and very crowded. I'd rather take my chances elsewhere, than sit in a filthy hotel room in India with 104 degree fever (which is exactly what happened toa business friend of mine) or puking non stop from food / water poisoning, praying to stay alive and that I will never set foot there again.

Health Information for Travelers to India - Travelers' Health - CDC

Malaria

Areas of India with Malaria: All areas throughout the country, including cities of Bombay (Mumbai) and Delhi, except none in areas >2,000 m (6,561 ft) in Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, and Sikkim. (more information)

If you will be visiting an area of India with malaria, you will need to discuss with your doctor the best ways for you to avoid getting sick with malaria. Ways to prevent malaria include the following:
• Taking a prescription antimalarial drug
• Using insect repellent and wearing long pants and sleeves to prevent mosquito bites
• Sleeping in air-conditioned or well-screened rooms or using bednets

All of the following antimalarial drugs are equal options for preventing malaria in India: Atovaquone-proguanil, doxycycline, or mefloquine. For detailed information about each of these drugs, see Table 3-11: Drugs used in the prophylaxis of malaria. For information that can help you and your doctor decide which of these drugs would be best for you, please see Choosing a Drug to Prevent Malaria.

Note: Chloroquine is NOT an effective antimalarial drug in India and should not be taken to prevent malaria in this region.

(MMR) vaccine, diphtheria/pertussis/tetanus (DPT) vaccine, poliovirus vaccine, etc.
Other Diseases Found in South Asia
Risk can vary between countries within this region and also within a country; the quality of in-country surveillance also varies.

The following are disease risks that might affect travelers; this is not a complete list of diseases that can be present. Environmental conditions may also change, and up to date information about risk by regions within a country may also not always be available.

Dengue fever has caused epidemics in most South Asian countries. In 2005-2006, an outbreak of chikungunya affected thousands of persons in India. Filariasis is common. A sharp rise in the incidence of visceral leishmaniasis has been observed in several South Asian countries. Cutaneous leishmaniasis is present in Afghanistan (where it has infected US troops). Japanese encephalitis occurs widely except in mountainous areas of South Asia. Protecting yourself against insect bites (see below) will help to prevent these diseases.

Leptospirosis, a bacterial infection often contracted through recreational water activities in contaminated water, is common in tropical areas of the South Asia region.

Indigenous wild polio was present in 2005-2006 in India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan; cases from Bangladesh and Nepal were confirmed in 2005-2006.

Measles occurs in the South Asia region and can be a source of infection for unvaccinated travelers.

Highly pathogenic avian influenza (H5N1) continues to cause outbreaks in domestic and wild bird populations and has caused human cases in several South Asian countries. Avoid all direct contact with birds, including domestic poultry (such as chickens and ducks) and wild birds, and avoid places such as poultry farms and bird markets where live birds are raised or kept. For a current list of countries reporting outbreaks of H5N1 among poultry and/or wild birds, view updates from the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE), and for total numbers of confirmed human cases of H5N1 virus by country see the World Health Organization (WHO) Avian Influenza website.


Hepatitis A or immune globulin (IG)

Recommended for all unvaccinated people traveling to or working in countries with an intermediate or high level of hepatitis A virus infection (see map) where exposure might occur through food or water. Cases of travel-related hepatitis A can also occur in travelers to developing countries with "standard" tourist itineraries, accommodations, and food consumption behaviors.
Hepatitis B

Recommended for all unvaccinated persons traveling to or working in countries with intermediate to high levels of endemic HBV transmission (see map), especially those who might be exposed to blood or body fluids, have sexual contact with the local population, or be exposed through medical treatment (e.g., for an accident).

Typhoid

Recommended for all unvaccinated people traveling to or working in South Asia, especially if staying with friends or relatives or visiting smaller cities, villages, or rural areas where exposure might occur through food or water.

wow...what a welcome change of subject!!!

there are health risks........not malaria or hepatitis so much as bowel stuff; diarrhoea, amoebas if you are sensitive to them

and infected mosquito bites

get strong anti biotics, iodine or peroxide for them..all available cheap there

and germs we don't have immunity to but it develops quite quickly, mostly by natural "vaccination" i.e you get a mild dose after which you become immune

that's what happened to me living in the slums; one wooden shack between 6 people...I got mild all sorts of ills for a short time but after that a better immune system than before...I rarely get colds and flu now.

India has very good and cheap drugs and excellent cheap medical help except in villages so no point taking expensive USA drugs with you

I did the vaccinations at first but they only help for a short while and didn't bother, later

You won't suffer in the tourist areas but best to see the real india and just use common sense

You need time there; India is low speed and wont get quicker for you; you have to go with the slow flow and not "push the river"

do go, matey, you'll learn a lot

but it is dirty...not inside houses; they are super clean, and you could catch stuff.

a few do, but most dont...........

i was healthy there because of the sunshine; i get depressed in the dark cold winter

best time is october after the monsoon till March when it gets hot...dry hot but hot!

hope that helps..ask more if you want

 

[CMike]

Carter was and is a complete disaster.

He is almost a worse ex president than president.

Israel and America would be wise to the exact opposite of Carter's brilliant insightful wisdom.

 

[Roudy]

That tells us all we will ever need to know, Rosie, thanks.

You choose to be ignorant.

I have wanted to travel to India. I hear it's quite filthy, smelly, disease ridden, impoverished, and very crowded. I'd rather take my chances elsewhere, than sit in a filthy hotel room in India with 104 degree fever (which is exactly what happened toa business friend of mine) or puking non stop from food / water poisoning, praying to stay alive and that I will never set foot there again.

Health Information for Travelers to India - Travelers' Health - CDC

Malaria

Areas of India with Malaria: All areas throughout the country, including cities of Bombay (Mumbai) and Delhi, except none in areas >2,000 m (6,561 ft) in Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, and Sikkim. (more information)

If you will be visiting an area of India with malaria, you will need to discuss with your doctor the best ways for you to avoid getting sick with malaria. Ways to prevent malaria include the following:
• Taking a prescription antimalarial drug
• Using insect repellent and wearing long pants and sleeves to prevent mosquito bites
• Sleeping in air-conditioned or well-screened rooms or using bednets

All of the following antimalarial drugs are equal options for preventing malaria in India: Atovaquone-proguanil, doxycycline, or mefloquine. For detailed information about each of these drugs, see Table 3-11: Drugs used in the prophylaxis of malaria. For information that can help you and your doctor decide which of these drugs would be best for you, please see Choosing a Drug to Prevent Malaria.

Note: Chloroquine is NOT an effective antimalarial drug in India and should not be taken to prevent malaria in this region.

(MMR) vaccine, diphtheria/pertussis/tetanus (DPT) vaccine, poliovirus vaccine, etc.
Other Diseases Found in South Asia
Risk can vary between countries within this region and also within a country; the quality of in-country surveillance also varies.

The following are disease risks that might affect travelers; this is not a complete list of diseases that can be present. Environmental conditions may also change, and up to date information about risk by regions within a country may also not always be available.

Dengue fever has caused epidemics in most South Asian countries. In 2005-2006, an outbreak of chikungunya affected thousands of persons in India. Filariasis is common. A sharp rise in the incidence of visceral leishmaniasis has been observed in several South Asian countries. Cutaneous leishmaniasis is present in Afghanistan (where it has infected US troops). Japanese encephalitis occurs widely except in mountainous areas of South Asia. Protecting yourself against insect bites (see below) will help to prevent these diseases.

Leptospirosis, a bacterial infection often contracted through recreational water activities in contaminated water, is common in tropical areas of the South Asia region.

Indigenous wild polio was present in 2005-2006 in India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan; cases from Bangladesh and Nepal were confirmed in 2005-2006.

Measles occurs in the South Asia region and can be a source of infection for unvaccinated travelers.

Highly pathogenic avian influenza (H5N1) continues to cause outbreaks in domestic and wild bird populations and has caused human cases in several South Asian countries. Avoid all direct contact with birds, including domestic poultry (such as chickens and ducks) and wild birds, and avoid places such as poultry farms and bird markets where live birds are raised or kept. For a current list of countries reporting outbreaks of H5N1 among poultry and/or wild birds, view updates from the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE), and for total numbers of confirmed human cases of H5N1 virus by country see the World Health Organization (WHO) Avian Influenza website.


Hepatitis A or immune globulin (IG)

Recommended for all unvaccinated people traveling to or working in countries with an intermediate or high level of hepatitis A virus infection (see map) where exposure might occur through food or water. Cases of travel-related hepatitis A can also occur in travelers to developing countries with "standard" tourist itineraries, accommodations, and food consumption behaviors.
Hepatitis B

Recommended for all unvaccinated persons traveling to or working in countries with intermediate to high levels of endemic HBV transmission (see map), especially those who might be exposed to blood or body fluids, have sexual contact with the local population, or be exposed through medical treatment (e.g., for an accident).

Typhoid

Recommended for all unvaccinated people traveling to or working in South Asia, especially if staying with friends or relatives or visiting smaller cities, villages, or rural areas where exposure might occur through food or water.

wow...what a welcome change of subject!!!

there are health risks........not malaria or hepatitis so much as bowel stuff; diarrhoea, amoebas if you are sensitive to them

and infected mosquito bites

get strong anti biotics, iodine or peroxide for them..all available cheap there

and germs we don't have immunity to but it develops quite quickly, mostly by natural "vaccination" i.e you get a mild dose after which you become immune

that's what happened to me living in the slums; one wooden shack between 6 people...I got mild all sorts of ills for a short time but after that a better immune system than before...I rarely get colds and flu now.

India has very good and cheap drugs and excellent cheap medical help except in villages so no point taking expensive USA drugs with you

I did the vaccinations at first but they only help for a short while and didn't bother, later

You won't suffer in the tourist areas but best to see the real india and just use common sense

You need time there; India is low speed and wont get quicker for you; you have to go with the slow flow and not "push the river"

do go, matey, you'll learn a lot

but it is dirty...not inside houses; they are super clean, and you could catch stuff.

a few do, but most dont...........

i was healthy there because of the sunshine; i get depressed in the dark cold winter

best time is october after the monsoon till March when it gets hot...dry hot but hot!

hope that helps..ask more if you want

I don't care where I go, I'm very paranoid when it comes to things like trusting the medicine and physicians of a third world country, I always take Tamiflu with me. It is a strong anti viral and when the viral shit hits the fan it usually works with alot of things that are out there. I also take some strong anti biotics if they aren't expired. I have many evil Zionist doctors and surgeons in my family so all it takes for me to get a prescription going is a phone call.

 

[kvetch]

"I don't care where I go, I'm very paranoid when it comes to things like trusting the medicine and physicians of a third world country, I always take Tamiflu with me. It is a strong anti viral and when the viral shit hits the fan it usually works with alot of things that are out there. I also take some strong anti biotics if they aren't expired. I have many evil Zionist doctors and surgeons in my family so all it takes for me to get a prescription going is a phone call."

well Roudy if yoy survived Tehran in the Shah's time with its evil rivers of sewage flowing down the sides of the streets and the pollution, I doubt India will do you in.

but fear is a danger; often the more fear and precautions, the sicker they get

enjoying yourself is a great medicine!!

but honestly good indian medical care is so good and cheap they are doing billions in medical tourism from westerners...even havin surrogate babies for childless USA couples

where I lived there was a lubavitch chabad house!

 

[Roudy]

"I don't care where I go, I'm very paranoid when it comes to things like trusting the medicine and physicians of a third world country, I always take Tamiflu with me. It is a strong anti viral and when the viral shit hits the fan it usually works with alot of things that are out there. I also take some strong anti biotics if they aren't expired. I have many evil Zionist doctors and surgeons in my family so all it takes for me to get a prescription going is a phone call."

well Roudy if yoy survived Tehran in the Shah's time with its evil rivers of sewage flowing down the sides of the streets and the pollution, I doubt India will do you in.

but fear is a danger; often the more fear and precautions, the sicker they get

enjoying yourself is a great medicine!!

but honestly good indian medical care is so good and cheap they are doing billions in medical tourism from westerners...even havin surrogate babies for childless USA couples

where I lived there was a lubavitch chabad house!

Yes, I heard there are some very old historical Sephardic synagogues there. India was one of the countries that many middle eastern Jews fled to after their expulsion in the late forties. The reason Indians were more tolerant was because their religion is not a derivative of Judaism.

 

[kvetch]

well Iran had its Tudeh commies but Mossadegh was DEFINITELY not one of them.

Trouble with UK and USA then was they were so obsessed by cold war stuff they couldn't tell the difference between a moderate genuine nationalist like Mossadegh and an evil commie bastard

anyone who asked for a fairer share of the shekels or a share in the western companies operating there was deemed to be a commie and overthrown

thank G-d that's changed now............different games but still too much them and us and not enough WE

 

[irosie91]

kvetch----your use of "jewish words" like your idiotic screen name and ----your use of the term "shekels" reveals you as the fraud you are. In fact your usages show up in the same manner YOU use them in the NAZI PIG literature. I am very familiar with it-----I first stumbled into it as a child of ten (that is a long time ago)

 

[kvetch]

kvetch----your use of "jewish words" like your idiotic screen name and ----your use of the term "shekels" reveals you as the fraud you are. In fact your usages show up in the same manner YOU use them in the NAZI PIG literature. I am very familiar with it-----I first stumbled into it as a child of ten (that is a long time ago)

I was addressing Roudy and you...both Jewish

I speak several lingos including Hindi / Urdu and bits of many others

I was just using Turkish words on anpther thread

it's known as communication

for you everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi islamo pig

try using a few different words or lingos; it would be a blessed relief!!

 

[irosie91]

kvetch----your use of "jewish words" like your idiotic screen name and ----your use of the term "shekels" reveals you as the fraud you are. In fact your usages show up in the same manner YOU use them in the NAZI PIG literature. I am very familiar with it-----I first stumbled into it as a child of ten (that is a long time ago)

I was addressing Roudy and you...both Jewish

I speak several lingos including Hindi / Urdu and bits of many others

I was just using Turkish words on anpther thread

it's known as communication

for you everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi islamo pig

try using a few different words or lingos; it would be a blessed relief!!

sure---I will use some words I picked up from pakistani colleagues
just to make you happy MADERCHOD uhm...I do not know what
muslims say in Hindi-----all the hindi speaking people I knew were kaffirin

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Like Obama, Carter believes there will only be peace in the Middle East once they get rid of Israel

 

[kvetch]

kvetch----your use of "jewish words" like your idiotic screen name and ----your use of the term "shekels" reveals you as the fraud you are. In fact your usages show up in the same manner YOU use them in the NAZI PIG literature. I am very familiar with it-----I first stumbled into it as a child of ten (that is a long time ago)

I was addressing Roudy and you...both Jewish

I speak several lingos including Hindi / Urdu and bits of many others

I was just using Turkish words on anpther thread

it's known as communication

for you everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi islamo pig

try using a few different words or lingos; it would be a blessed relief!!

sure---I will use some words I picked up from pakistani colleagues
just to make you happy MADERCHOD uhm...I do not know what
muslims say in Hindi-----all the hindi speaking people I knew were kaffirin

Hindi and Urdu are basically the SAME language so any kind of relational chod is the same for both!

Try me cago en la leche...spanish for defecating in mum's milk.

I wish I knew more Yiddish..teach me some other choice yiddish insults. please

I learned Yenta here...like to know more

But better still, what we jews are ALL best at.....above all the peoples on gods earth

some jewish humour..........

 

[kvetch]

Like Obama, Carter believes there will only be peace in the Middle East once they get rid of Israel

not israel, sweetie

just netenyahoo......... he pisses everyone off

 

[irosie91]

The British hated George Washington and Mahatma Gandhi ---too

 

[kvetch]

Like Obama, Carter believes there will only be peace in the Middle East once they get rid of Israel

the crusaders sure as hell got rid of all the jews when they took Jerusalem, don't you know??

the christians massacred every single jewish man woman and child there; 10,000 at least

change your name if you wanna support israel; they hate crusaders there same as nazis

 

[irosie91]

oh that is interesting I never heard any hindi speaking people use a CHOD phrase--------I heard it only from pakistanis gee. The manner in which you use "jewish words" indicates that you are not related to the culture in any way--------randee