Jim Moran Says We Should Not Be able to Keep Our Wealth

[KMAN]

Jim Moran is a congressman from Virginia.

Congratulations! This is your new USSA.


"We have been guided by a Republican administration who believes in the simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it and they have an antipathy towards means of redistributing wealth. And they may be able to sustain that for a while, but it doesn't work in the long run."

"The Simplistic Notion That People with Wealth are Entitled to Keep It"

 

[Shogun]

you don't enjoy that wealth in a cultural vacuum. My advice to you is to pack your bags and get thee to Dubai right now.

 

[DiamondDave]

You don't get your wealth from doing nothing either...

You have no right to put your personal responsibility upon someone else... and you are not entitled to someone else's fruits of their efforts simply because you want it

 

[Shogun]

well, that certainly is your opinion. Here any recent political news lately?

 

[DiamondDave]

well, that certainly is your opinion. Here any recent political news lately?

Yep

OBorga won the Presidential election

Don't mean that people are not going to fight redistribution... you suggest people who want to reap the rewards for their choices, investments, work, efforts, etc should move to Dubai... I say anyone who believes in this wealth sharing/redistribution bullshit go live on a hippie commune where they fucking belong, and see how advanced and successful that community becomes

 

[KMAN]

Why is it legal for the government to steal your money but not legal for me to steal your money?

 

[WillowTree]

The money is being moved, just as fast as they can move it. The Moron will have to go looking for it... I don't have any so I'm not concerned. I pay about half as much in property taxes as I did last year so that hungry fat lady who screams for her welfare rights can just keep right on screaming.

 

[Shogun]

Hey, looks like it's time to pack your shit then, eh dude? Obama won. No one is buying your talking points. Last night proved that. If you don't like the direction this nation chose to travel then... well... I hear they have some real nice apartments in Dubai.

 

[KMAN]

Shogun - Then just send me a check in the mail for half of your income and we will call it even... Thanks....

 

[KMAN]

What's funny is we the people already have the option to give money away to those less fortunate. If liberals would put their money where their mouth is maybe the government wouldn't have to steal it. Better yet let the states work it out. Why should I have to pay for all of the illegal immigratns in SF because the people in SF decided to make it a sanuctuary city.

Shogun - If I told you that you are going to be forced to give 40% of your income to my church how would you feel?

 

[Shogun]

Shogun - Then just send me a check in the mail for half of your income and we will call it even... Thanks....

naw.. I think we'll just go ahead and repeal Bush's tax cuts for the royal class and go from there. Maybe you should invest in camels and sand on your way to Dubai..

 

[garysvent]

Confiscation of wealth, eh? Let's start with the congressmen who support Obama, like Moran. They have accumulated wealth -- some through questionable activities -- so they should be respectful of Obi Ma Kenobi and just hand it over, set examples for the citizenry.

The alternative is to approach Moran and others of his ilk with hickory axe handles, for the purpose of explaining the meaning of We, the People.

 

[Shogun]

What's funny is we the people already have the option to give money away to those less fortunate. If liberals would put their money where their mouth is maybe the government wouldn't have to steal it. Better yet let the states work it out. Why should I have to pay for all of the illegal immigratns in SF because the people in SF decided to make it a sanuctuary city.

Shogun - If I told you that you are going to be forced to give 40% of your income to my church how would you feel?

bastions of dogma junkie faith already get tax consideration. I'm ALREADY paying taxes for red state welfare. I'm ALREADY paying for weathfare. Strap on your seat belt and remember to keep all hands and legs inside the ride, yo.

 

[Shogun]

Confiscation of wealth, eh? Let's start with the congressmen who support Obama, like Moran. They have accumulated wealth -- some through questionable activities -- so they should be respectful of Obi Ma Kenobi and just hand it over, set examples for the citizenry.

The alternative is to approach Moran and others of his ilk with hickory axe handles, for the purpose of explaining the meaning of We, the People.

You are about seventeen years late for the party at Ruby Ridge, dude.

 

[sealybobo]

Jim Moran is a congressman from Virginia.

Congratulations! This is your new USSA.


"We have been guided by a Republican administration who believes in the simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it and they have an antipathy towards means of redistributing wealth. And they may be able to sustain that for a while, but it doesn't work in the long run."

"The Simplistic Notion That People with Wealth are Entitled to Keep It"

There are all kinds of articles that you can read that will explain to you that our founding fathers, and many intelligent people today, will tell you that extreme wealth of a few people is very very very dangerous to democracy. That's why we have the death tax, if we even have it anymore.

When a parent dies with 500 million dollars in their bank, it is not right for the kid to enherit it all. Then they become powerful without EVER contributing to society.

So, we take half of that wealth that they didn't deserve or earn in the first place, and put it in the treasury. That way it goes to the greater good.

How about this? Instead of that rich kid getting everything, we take half of their enheritence and give it to every kid for school. I think England passed that idea OVERWHELMINGLY, even with the Conservatives buying into the idea.

I'm really tired and not thinking right today. I can't type. But please do not think your tired old arguments are going to work like they did in the past. We have a progressive tax. It taxes the rich more and that money goes to things like welfare. Deal with it. We aren't a socialist society, unless you INSIST on calling it that. And if you do, fine, we'll call it that. And maybe we'll take it a step further. Maybe we'll socialize the oil companies. Maybe the banks too. (Bush already did)

But instead of just socializing the losses, we socialize the profits too. That way the government can pay their bills.

If you make a widget, trust me, we won't socialize it. You make a good product and you sell it to people, you will be ok in the free market.

But when it's Federal land the oil companies are taking oil from, you are god damn right we won't let them gouge us. They should never have made record profits. They should have shared that with us at the pumps.

But if you make a battery car, we won't socialize it.

And the radio airwaves are owned by US the public. We only allow companies to do business on OUR airwaves. And we will not let 10 rich fat cats buy up all the radio stations and spew their lies to us for another 8 years.

It's time to take the country back!!!! We the people, not them the corporations.

 

[busara]

sealy, you should read The Millionaire Next Door

 

[sealybobo]

Oh, and we should figure out how half of the fucking defense spending was squandered/lost/stolen, and we should take that money back.

That's why Chaney moved Haloburton to Dubai. He should be tried for treason and put in prison at a MINIMUM!!!

Finally Rumsfeld will not be running the Pentagon. Oh, you thought he was let go a few years ago? Think again. He's just running things from behind the scene.

 

[sealybobo]

sealy, you should read The Millionaire Next Door

And a lot of us "liberals" are cool with raising the death tax from $1 million or $5 million to $20 million.

If your parents have a farm worth $21 million, you will pay $500k in death tax. The rest you keep.

If your parents die with $40 million, you will pay $10 million to the death tax, the rest is yours.

This is why the richest people in the country are the ones trying to get rid of the death tax, not fix it.

"Death Tax" Deception Who's behind the movement to repeal the nation's only tax on inherited wealth?

 

[user_name_guest]

bastions of dogma junkie faith already get tax consideration. I'm ALREADY paying taxes for red state welfare. I'm ALREADY paying for weathfare. Strap on your seat belt and remember to keep all hands and legs inside the ride, yo.

Stop buying ipods, hdtv, using a computer, then you won't pay for wealth of others. Because without wealth, we wouldn't have these fancy gadgets. Why are you on the computer? On Windows? If we have these fancy gadgets, are we hypocritical to point out that they have all this wealth because of our own doing. I say we should tax Hollywood and Athletes 50%. That would be awesome.

 

[busara]

And a lot of us "liberals" are cool with raising the death tax from $1 million or $5 million to $20 million.

If your parents have a farm worth $21 million, you will pay $500k in death tax. The rest you keep.

If your parents die with $40 million, you will pay $10 million to the death tax, the rest is yours.

This is why the richest people in the country are the ones trying to get rid of the death tax, not fix it.

"Death Tax" Deception Who's behind the movement to repeal the nation's only tax on inherited wealth?

so you havent read it, have you? it shows that the typical american millionaire is someone who started their own company and was frugal with their money, not people who inherited fortunes