Jewish Violence against Christians on the Rise in Jerusalem

[Grau]

I cant discuss anything with a liar.You dont qualify for my time.

I very rarely respond to our dishonest gaggle of Full Time, genocidal Zionist shills because it is incomprehensible that any informed, rational and honest individual would attempt to defend today's most heavily censored and ruthless foreign funded genocide in history.

There are plenty of real human beings here with real lives whose views express honest realities that are actually worth reading.

Thanks,

 

[kyzina]

There is no prohibition in Israel on practicing a religious faith, speaking about a faith, proselytizing a faith (with exceptions, noted below), or singing songs of faith. Israel has freedom of religion for all faiths.

That said, from my understanding, most Israelis have very strong feelings against attempting to convert people.

Exceptions for proselytizing in Israel's Penal Code:

Giving benefits to induce change of religion
174A.If a person gives or promises another person money, valuable consideration or another material benefit in order to entice him to change his religion or to cause him to entice another to change his religion, then he is liable to five years imprisonment or a fine of NS150,000.

Change of a minor's religion
368. (a) (b) If a person performs a religious conversion ceremony of a minor or performs some other act that leads to the change of a minor's religion, in violation of the provisions of section 13A of the Capacity and Guardianship Law 5722-1962, then he is liable to six months imprisonment. If a person induces a minor, by addressing him directly, to change his religion, then he is liable to six months imprisonment.

BS.

Messianic Christian Couple in Israel Accused of Converting Minor​

Ultra-Orthodox Jews harass, threaten pair even though 16-year-old has not converted.​

By Compass Direct NewsSunday, July 03, 2011
JERUSALEM, Israel – A hard-line Jewish ultra-Orthodox group in Israel that singles out Jewish Christians known as Messianic Jews for harassment and abuse is taking aim at a couple it claims is manipulating minors into becoming Christians.

The group, Yad L’Achim, this week placed leaflets around the home of Serge and Naama Kogen, 37 and 42 respectively, in Mevasseret Zion, a suburban community located just west of Jerusalem. The same week someone took out a full-page ad in a local newspaper giving the couple’s address and telling residents they were part of a missionary group “targeting” the community. The Kogens are native Israelis and hence not part of any missionary group.


more....https://www.christianpost.com/news/messianic-christian-couple-in-israel-accused-of-converting-minor.html

 

[kyzina]

BS.

Messianic Christian Couple in Israel Accused of Converting Minor​

Ultra-Orthodox Jews harass, threaten pair even though 16-year-old has not converted.​

By Compass Direct NewsSunday, July 03, 2011
JERUSALEM, Israel – A hard-line Jewish ultra-Orthodox group in Israel that singles out Jewish Christians known as Messianic Jews for harassment and abuse is taking aim at a couple it claims is manipulating minors into becoming Christians.

The group, Yad L’Achim, this week placed leaflets around the home of Serge and Naama Kogen, 37 and 42 respectively, in Mevasseret Zion, a suburban community located just west of Jerusalem. The same week someone took out a full-page ad in a local newspaper giving the couple’s address and telling residents they were part of a missionary group “targeting” the community. The Kogens are native Israelis and hence not part of any missionary group.


more....https://www.christianpost.com/news/messianic-christian-couple-in-israel-accused-of-converting-minor.html

So much for Israel being a "democracy."

 

[Shusha]

BS.

I don't know what you are claiming is "BS". The article supports everything I said in my post.

 

[kyzina]

I don't know what you are claiming is "BS". The article supports everything I said in my post.

lol no
incredible
Hasbara

 

[Shusha]

lol no
incredible
Hasbara

I literally copy pasted the actual law. Dude. The article you posted confirms that this is the law and that there was an investigation and that the couple in question were found not to be guilty of contravening 368b.

 

[kyzina]

So you can get 6 months in an Israeli jail just for talking with a minor about Jesus. Gee, how "democratic" and "free."

 

[kyzina]

I literally copy pasted the actual law. Dude. The article you posted confirms that this is the law and that there was an investigation and that the couple in question were found not to be guilty of contravening 368b.

And yet they were prosecuted for it and harassed by demonic extremists.

 

[Shusha]

So you can get 6 months in an Israeli jail just for talking with a minor about Jesus. Gee, how "democratic" and "free."

For inducing a minor to change their religion without consent of the minor's parents. It is protective.

 

[Shusha]

And yet they were prosecuted for it and harassed by demonic extremists.

They were investigated, as they should be when a police report is filed against them, not prosecuted.

And I agree that they were harassed and should not have been. I think that is unacceptable behaviour. However, I ALSO think that attempting to convert a minor child from their religion without their parent's knowledge or consent is unacceptable behaviour. And this is especially true with Messianics who use deceit (in my personal opinion) to convert Jews away from Judaism. I find that abhorrent.

Speaking of "free". Everyone should be free to practice their own faith without attempts to convert them away from it.

 

[kyzina]

They were investigated, as they should be when a police report is filed against them, not prosecuted.

And I agree that they were harassed and should not have been. I think that is unacceptable behaviour. However, I ALSO think that attempting to convert a minor child from their religion without their parent's knowledge or consent is unacceptable behaviour. And this is especially true with Messianics who use deceit (in my personal opinion) to convert Jews away from Judaism. I find that abhorrent.

Speaking of "free". Everyone should be free to practice their own faith without attempts to convert them away from it.

So the police are complicit in "investigating" bs.

 

[Shusha]

So the police are complicit in "investigating" bs.

So you don't think police are obligated to follow up when someone makes a complaint about potentially criminal acts?

 

[kyzina]

I ALSO think that attempting to convert a minor child from their religion without their parent's knowledge or consent is unacceptable behaviour.

Gee, God forbid someone talk to a kid about the new testament. There outa be a law! Oh wait, there is.

 

[kyzina]

So you don't think police are obligated to follow up when someone makes a complaint about potentially criminal acts?

They used discretion, just like anyone else.

And now it's criminal to talk about Jesus. Freedumb.

 

[Leo123]

Jewish Violence against Christians on the Rise in Jerusalem

In 2024, violent attacks by religious Jews against Christians increased, especially in Jerusalem.

www.jerusalemstory.com

Cant get my head around this. Trump wants to bomb Nigeria because they are nasty to christians.
But its ok for Israeli thugs to do the same. Ive just watched a fulm of Israeli thugs spitting on a priest.
Where does this leave the whackjob evangelicals who underpin support for these savages ?
The world is in a bad place and all roads lead back o trump.

Not the same Limey. Nigeria is KILLING Christians and no, your 'Orange Man Bad' is not to blame.

 

[Shusha]

And now it's criminal to talk about Jesus. Freedumb.

It is not criminal to talk about J. It is criminal to induce a CHILD to convert to another religion without parental consent. You are deliberately misrepresenting the law.

 

[kyzina]

It is not criminal to talk about J. It is criminal to induce a CHILD to convert to another religion without parental consent. You are deliberately misrepresenting the law.

Not what your statute says.

 

[kyzina]

Israeli officials call for sweeping gender law reform including self-ID and recognition for trans youth and non-binary people​

Trans people in Israel should be given legal recognition regardless of whether they have pursued gender-affirming surgery, a government task force packed with top officials has recommended.

Israeli officials call for sweeping gender law reform including self-ID and recognition for trans youth and non-binary people

Trans people in Israel should be given legal recognition, including non-binary people and trans youth aged 15-18, a committee has said.

www.thepinknews.com

 

[kyzina]

Israeli officials call for sweeping gender law reform including self-ID and recognition for trans youth and non-binary people​

Trans people in Israel should be given legal recognition regardless of whether they have pursued gender-affirming surgery, a government task force packed with top officials has recommended.

Israeli officials call for sweeping gender law reform including self-ID and recognition for trans youth and non-binary people

Trans people in Israel should be given legal recognition, including non-binary people and trans youth aged 15-18, a committee has said.

www.thepinknews.com

So you can't talk to kids about Jesus, but you can talk to them about being a freak.

 

[Shusha]

Not what your statute says.

Can you not read?

Change of a minor's religion
368. (a) (b) If a person performs a religious conversion ceremony of a minor or performs some other act that leads to the change of a minor's religion, in violation of the provisions of section 13A of the Capacity and Guardianship Law 5722-1962, then he is liable to six months imprisonment. If a person induces a minor, by addressing him directly, to change his religion, then he is liable to six months imprisonment.