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Have you ever witnessed a baby being born??
Oh god! Just had an argument with QW a few weeks ago about this.
You ever seen an 18-month old drowned in the neighbours spa pool.....
Have you ever witnessed a baby being born??
Oh god! Just had an argument with QW a few weeks ago about this.
You ever seen an 18-month old drowned in the neighbours spa pool.....
Guess that can be described as Yin and Yang??
Because there is absolutely no solid evidence there is....only belief...
Well then answer the question LoneLaugher thought was ridiculous about Love...
What was the question? (I haven't read the whole thread and have no intention of doing so)....
Well then answer the question LoneLaugher thought was ridiculous about Love...
What was the question? (I haven't read the whole thread and have no intention of doing so)....
i think the implication was that you can't prove love exists either.
What was the question? (I haven't read the whole thread and have no intention of doing so)....
i think the implication was that you can't prove love exists either.
I'm not claiming love is sentinent, or non-sentinent, being, or that love will send me to hell. Or that love is tangible...
i think the implication was that you can't prove love exists either.
I'm not claiming love is sentinent, or non-sentinent, being, or that love will send me to hell. Or that love is tangible...
i know. but that seems to be the argument some make. they confuse emotion, which is certain real at the time it is felt, with their belief in a higher power.
you know i believe, but i'm fully aware that it's belief and not something i could "prove" in a scientific method sense.
I'm not claiming love is sentinent, or non-sentinent, being, or that love will send me to hell. Or that love is tangible...
i know. but that seems to be the argument some make. they confuse emotion, which is certain real at the time it is felt, with their belief in a higher power.
you know i believe, but i'm fully aware that it's belief and not something i could "prove" in a scientific method sense.
Bingo...
I've always stated that if a God existed, why doesn't he or she just reveal him or herself.
There are two usual replies:
1) He/she does but you're just not seeing; or
2) Why should he/she have to.
To the first one I say, well why not just make it obvious instead of being silly about it; or
Why shouldn't he or she not have to. After all, he or she is the one that wants us to follow him or her. Not that much to ask IMO...
I'm not claiming love is sentinent, or non-sentinent, being, or that love will send me to hell. Or that love is tangible...
i know. but that seems to be the argument some make. they confuse emotion, which is certain real at the time it is felt, with their belief in a higher power.
you know i believe, but i'm fully aware that it's belief and not something i could "prove" in a scientific method sense.
Bingo...
I've always stated that if a God existed, why doesn't he or she just reveal him or herself.
There are two usual replies:
1) He/she does but you're just not seeing; or
2) Why should he/she have to.
To the first one I say, well why not just make it obvious instead of being silly about it; or
Why shouldn't he or she not have to. After all, he or she is the one that wants us to follow him or her. Not that much to ask IMO...
We see the Effects of what we do, cause and effect, is not a Man Made Law. You want to test it, go right ahead, just remember to include me in your Will. Why God exists should not even matter to you, if you don't believe, unless you are claiming there is no morality, in which case you are trying to establish a foundation to get a Pass on the wrong you impose on others? Do you believe in Good and Evil? Can you prove the Good and Evil exist? Can you prove that Time Exists? Does our limits on what we can Prove, conclude that what we can't prove exists doesn't, or does it prove that our capabilities are inconclusive and limited?
Well then answer the question LoneLaugher thought was ridiculous about Love...
What was the question? (I haven't read the whole thread and have no intention of doing so)....
i think the implication was that you can't prove love exists either.
We see the Effects of what we do, cause and effect, is not a Man Made Law. You want to test it, go right ahead, just remember to include me in your Will. Why God exists should not even matter to you, if you don't believe, unless you are claiming there is no morality, in which case you are trying to establish a foundation to get a Pass on the wrong you impose on others? Do you believe in Good and Evil? Can you prove the Good and Evil exist? Can you prove that Time Exists? Does our limits on what we can Prove, conclude that what we can't prove exists doesn't, or does it prove that our capabilities are inconclusive and limited?
But good or evil deeds are committed and can be easily seen/heard. Yes, I can prove time exists. You could say that about almost any word in the dictionary.
At the end of they day, you are comparing apples and oranges. Let us not forget this God asks as lot of us, good and evil doesn't, nor does time. As I said, not much to ask for him or her to reveal him/herself...
We see the Effects of what we do, cause and effect, is not a Man Made Law. You want to test it, go right ahead, just remember to include me in your Will. Why God exists should not even matter to you, if you don't believe, unless you are claiming there is no morality, in which case you are trying to establish a foundation to get a Pass on the wrong you impose on others? Do you believe in Good and Evil? Can you prove the Good and Evil exist? Can you prove that Time Exists? Does our limits on what we can Prove, conclude that what we can't prove exists doesn't, or does it prove that our capabilities are inconclusive and limited?
Well then answer the question LoneLaugher thought was ridiculous about Love...
What was the question? (I haven't read the whole thread and have no intention of doing so)....
i think the implication was that you can't prove love exists either.
How much sadder is it when a someone snivels about their perception that someone else is sniveling?
Ten words or less please.
Oh poor Jillian, she is so abused and misunderstood...
But you are the one complaining about your perception of another complaining.
Thus you are sadder.
We see the Effects of what we do, cause and effect, is not a Man Made Law. You want to test it, go right ahead, just remember to include me in your Will. Why God exists should not even matter to you, if you don't believe, unless you are claiming there is no morality, in which case you are trying to establish a foundation to get a Pass on the wrong you impose on others? Do you believe in Good and Evil? Can you prove the Good and Evil exist? Can you prove that Time Exists? Does our limits on what we can Prove, conclude that what we can't prove exists doesn't, or does it prove that our capabilities are inconclusive and limited?
But good or evil deeds are committed and can be easily seen/heard. Yes, I can prove time exists. You could say that about almost any word in the dictionary.
At the end of they day, you are comparing apples and oranges. Let us not forget this God asks as lot of us, good and evil doesn't, nor does time. As I said, not much to ask for him or her to reveal him/herself...
Without Universal Law, it is all Relative, a matter of Perspective. You can Justify almost any position in your mind, whether it fits into the balance of creation is another matter. Is there a force greater than the single mind, or the collective mind, that sets things straight? I believe so. Prove Time exists.
What was the question? (I haven't read the whole thread and have no intention of doing so)....
i think the implication was that you can't prove love exists either.
Correct, you can't...
There are a number of things you can not prove exist either that are widely believed...
I take exception to the notion that somehow you need further proof that God is real..
i think the implication was that you can't prove love exists either.
Correct, you can't...
There are a number of things you can not prove exist either that are widely believed...
I take exception to the notion that somehow you need further proof that God is real..
As I said, love asks nothing of us. A god does and therefore it is incumbent on him or her to prove he or she exists. Why wouldn't they want to? Why do they want faith? Sounds like a cop out by those who invented the god.
Of course you need further proof that god exists. At the moment there is no proof whatsoever.
Just out of interest, what religion are you? Christian, Jewish, Muslim? And were you born in the US or another place?
Oh I beg to differ, Love requires a commitment, loyalty, faithfulness, etc...
Do you struggle with making the right decisions concerning your loved ones?
Have you ever lost someone close to you?
Personally, the spiritual battles I deal with are daily, once I recognized this and this alone, I knew God was real...
I am sure it works differently for others, for me it took years to get there...
My religious beliefs are really irrelevant to this discussion, but if you must know I am a Christian...
