JD Vance and family flee to 'undisclosed location' due to angry mob after Zelensky fallout

[SassyIrishLass]

just what is the position of "the left" on Ukraine?

They don't know. Probably anything against what Orange Man is doing

 

[WEATHER53]

Invasion of personal privacy
Bring in public does not mean being swarmed by public

 

[rightwinger]

JD is absolutely welcome in Vermont.

Evidently not

 

[rightwinger]

Did someone try to stop them?

Vance better get used to it

Actions have consequences

 

[Moonglow]

When are you going to Ukraine to fight?

Or do you just want other people to bleed for you?

yer the badass around here show us how it is done.

 

[Moonglow]

"they gave"----..."hundreds of billions of dollars" ? who and when and why? ------"da democrats gave"?

All were approved by a bipartisan panel on the the Senate Foreign Relations committee.

 

[hadit]

But Putin loves him

You seem to know a lot about what Putin is thinking. How often do you go see him?

 

[TimFitz]

Zelensky sounded just like a coward Democrat. Chuck Schumer with an accent, what a Mindless little grifter.

You flagrantly lied about an imaginary meeting with Democrats.

Knowing that was a lie,you make up some more self serving BS

 

[TimFitz]

Vance is three times the man that you are.

Vance is a yes man. His previous experience is carrying Peter Thiel’s briefcase.

 

[TimFitz]

Its better than more war without US support.
What part of, no US security guarantee dson't you get.
Putin would never allow NATO troops in Ukraine.

More war without US support is what Putin wants.

That’s what Lavrov told Rubio in Saudi Arabia.

They also want the US divided and feuding with NATO.

So, Trump has no deal to offer Zelinsky.

Trump has nothing to offer Ukraine in return for the demands he is making.

Trump is doing Putin’s bidding.

Trump’s “peace deal” is a failure. From start to finish.

So, in the end, Trump decided to blow it up live before the whole world.

Moscow is ecstatic. Trump is doing exactly what he has been instructed to.

It played to the Trump cultists here in the US too.

 

[Mashmont]

Evidently not

A few paid imported fake protesters do not speak for the state.

 

[kyzr]

More war without US support is what Putin wants.
That’s what Lavrov told Rubio in Saudi Arabia.
They also want the US divided and feuding with NATO.

Zelensky should have thought about that before burning his bridge to the US.
He listened to his democrat handlers who want to blow up the peace deal.
Now the fate of Ukraine is in the EU's hands.

So, Trump has no deal to offer Zelinsky.
Trump has nothing to offer Ukraine in return for the demands he is making. Trump is doing Putin’s bidding.
Trump’s “peace deal” is a failure. From start to finish.

Trump had the peace deal agreed to until the democrats coached Zelensky to demand security guarantees from the US, which blew up the peace deal. Congrats Z, you fucking idiot.

So, in the end, Trump decided to blow it up live before the whole world.
Moscow is ecstatic. Trump is doing exactly what he has been instructed to.
It played to the Trump cultists here in the US too.

Trump had the peace deal set, Zelensky blew it up by demanding security guarantees from the US.
Now we see what happens next...Z crawls back to Trump or the EU steps up....or Russia captures Ukraine.

 

[TimFitz]

You would protect a rattlesnake about to bite you. I posted proof I am correct.

You posted no proof of anything.

 

[TimFitz]

Zelensky should have thought about that before burning his bridge to the US.
He listened to his democrat handlers who want to blow up the peace deal.
Now the fate of Ukraine is in the EU's hands.

Trump had the peace deal agreed to until the democrats coached Zelensky to demand security guarantees from the US, which blew up the peace deal. Congrats Z, you fucking idiot.

Trump had the peace deal set, Zelensky blew it up by demanding security guarantees from the US.
Now we see what happens next...Z crawls back to Trump or the EU steps up....or Russia captures Ukraine.

“Trump had the peace deal set,”

What deal?

There was no deal. Trump never presented anything. He made no commitments and offered no support.

Moscow told Rubio that there was no deal before Trump staged this disgusting stunt.

 

[kyzr]

“Trump had the peace deal set,” What deal?
There was no deal. Trump never presented anything. He made no commitments and offered no support.
Moscow told Rubio that there was no deal before Trump staged this disgusting stunt.

Read this:

Ukraine minerals deal: What we know so far

The White House said the deal, which would give the US access to mineral deposits, was not signed on Friday.

www.bbc.com

The preliminary agreement envisages that an "investment fund" will be set up for Ukraine's reconstruction.
Shmyhal said Kyiv and Washington would manage the fund on "equal terms".
According to the deal, Ukraine will contribute 50% of future proceeds from state-owned mineral resources, oil and gas to the fund, and the fund will then invest "to promote the safety, security and prosperity of Ukraine".
Meanwhile, the agreement says the US government will, subject to US law, "maintain a long-term financial commitment to the development of a stable and economically prosperous Ukraine".
Zelensky acknowledged the fund, but told the BBC on Wednesday it was "too early to talk about money".

Trump said that when US miners are in Ukraine they are under US military protection.
If that isn't good enough for Zelensky he can keep fighting.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Back to the actual topic, people peacefully carrying signs standing along the road is about as First Amendment as you can get.

 

[Zincwarrior]

LMAO, WTF did you do this weekend? Is Vance not entitled to a weekend with his family? Morons.

He is. Protestors are allowed to stand on the sides of a a public street with signs and protest.

 

[TimFitz]

Read this:

Ukraine minerals deal: What we know so far

The White House said the deal, which would give the US access to mineral deposits, was not signed on Friday.

www.bbc.com

The preliminary agreement envisages that an "investment fund" will be set up for Ukraine's reconstruction.
Shmyhal said Kyiv and Washington would manage the fund on "equal terms".
According to the deal, Ukraine will contribute 50% of future proceeds from state-owned mineral resources, oil and gas to the fund, and the fund will then invest "to promote the safety, security and prosperity of Ukraine".
Meanwhile, the agreement says the US government will, subject to US law, "maintain a long-term financial commitment to the development of a stable and economically prosperous Ukraine".
Zelensky acknowledged the fund, but told the BBC on Wednesday it was "too early to talk about money".

Trump said that when US miners are in Ukraine they are under US military protection.
If that isn't good enough for Zelensky he can keep fighting.

This is not a peace deal. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

It is a mineral grab at Ukraine’s expense in return for vague promises.

“Trump said that when US miners are in Ukraine they are under US military protection.
If that isn't good enough for Zelensky he can keep fighting.”

All Zelinsky was to “get” out of that was a vague promise from Trump.

No one on the planet is in any doubt that Trump’s word is worthless.

 

[kyzr]

This is not a peace deal. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
It is a mineral grab at Ukraine’s expense in return for vague promises.
“Trump said that when US miners are in Ukraine they are under US military protection.
If that isn't good enough for Zelensky he can keep fighting.”
All Zelinsky was to “get” out of that was a vague promise from Trump.
No one on the planet is in any doubt that Trump’s word is worthless.

So the discussion is over. Peace deals are a piece of paper, and Trump's word is just as worthless, so the war goes on until Russia captures all of Ukraine and millions more die. Stupid outcome.

 

[Zincwarrior]

So the discussion is over. Peace deals are a piece of paper, and Trump's word is just as worthless, so the war goes on until Russia captures all of Ukraine and millions more die. Stupid outcome.

Or Russia loses.