I've solved the issue on charging EVs while in route.

[beagle9]

OK, so one of the major undesirable parts of owning an EV is having to charge it while in route right ??

What about this folks - Instead of having charging stations where one has to hook up a charger to the EV, and then charge it for a period of time before getting under way again, then I have to ask this question - Why was it done or designed in this way to begin with ?

Why couldn't charging stations be set up like drive through car washes ?

Hear me out !

You pull into the station, and you drive up to a money machine that one puts an exchange rate into the machine for a quick change purchase, and this one a driver does in order to drive out the other side ready to roll again in just a matter of time that is faster or equivalent to a fuel up in a gasoline vehicle.

The EV needs to be designed with the battery below the vehicle with a quick change set up that allows the battery to be dropped and replaced with a fully charged one that is quickly installed with a quick change robotic set up. All EVs should be built to be compatible with the change out stations in this way.

The drained battery is then placed on a charger that will recharge the battery to be placed back in the que for the next recharge entry.

Will it work ?

What about it Elon ?

 

[jc456]

OK, so one of the major undesirable parts of owning an EV is having to charge it while in route right ??

What about this folks - Instead of having charging stations where one has to hook up a charger to the EV, and then charge it for a period of time before getting under way again, then I have to ask this question - Why was it done or designed in this way to begin with ?

Why couldn't charging stations be set up like drive through car washes ?

Hear me out !

You pull into the station, and you drive up to a money machine that one puts an exchange rate into the machine for a quick change purchase, and this one a driver does in order to drive out the other side ready to roll again in just a matter of time that is faster or equivalent to a fuel up in a gasoline vehicle.

The EV needs to be designed with the battery below the vehicle with a quick change set up that allows the battery to be dropped and replaced with a fully charged one that is quickly installed with a quick change robotic set up. All EVs should be built to be compatible with the change out stations in this way.

The drained battery is then placed on a charger that will recharge the battery to be placed back in the que for the next recharge entry.

Will it work ?

What about it Elon ?

Well, how many batteries are in an EV?

 

[Crepitus]

OK, so one of the major undesirable parts of owning an EV is having to charge it while in route right ??

What about this folks - Instead of having charging stations where one has to hook up a charger to the EV, and then charge it for a period of time before getting under way again, then I have to ask this question - Why was it done or designed in this way to begin with ?

Why couldn't charging stations be set up like drive through car washes ?

Hear me out !

You pull into the station, and you drive up to a money machine that one puts an exchange rate into the machine for a quick change purchase, and this one a driver does in order to drive out the other side ready to roll again in just a matter of time that is faster or equivalent to a fuel up in a gasoline vehicle.

The EV needs to be designed with the battery below the vehicle with a quick change set up that allows the battery to be dropped and replaced with a fully charged one that is quickly installed with a quick change robotic set up. All EVs should be built to be compatible with the change out stations in this way.

The drained battery is then placed on a charger that will recharge the battery to be placed back in the que for the next recharge entry.

Will it work ?

What about it Elon ?

That was looked at by some companies, not sure why they didn't go that route.

My bad, China is already on it.

A new fully charged EV battery in five minutes: Are China's swap stations the future of electric cars?

China has been trialling battery swaps for electric cars for years. Are they a viable solution to range anxiety?

www.bbc.com

 

[Crepitus]

Well, how many batteries are in an EV?

one most of the time.

 

[beagle9]

Well, how many batteries are in an EV?

One right ? Not sure... If it is a compartment of batteries wired in series, then the compartment can still be dropped and the new refreshed compartment would be raised into place. The idea is "No charge needed". Just replace and go. The station would deal with the refresh of the compartment of batteries that were dropped.

 

[Hellokitty]

Don't batteries have a life span? So someone could pull in with a new battery and leave with a 3 year old one?

 

[cnm]

Don't batteries have a life span? So someone could pull in with a new battery and leave with a 3 year old one?

Perhaps they wouldn't own the batteries they'd just be buying a charge.

 

[1srelluc]

LOL.....OK if your car is built like a forklift.

 

[jc456]

One right ? Not sure... If it is a compartment of batteries wired in series, then the compartment can still be dropped and the new refreshed compartment would be raised into place. The idea is "No charge needed". Just replace and go. The station would deal with the refresh of the compartment of batteries that were dropped.

Yes, that was my understanding that they are a compartment of batteries.

 

[WorldWatcher]

OK, so one of the major undesirable parts of owning an EV is having to charge it while in route right ??

What about this folks - Instead of having charging stations where one has to hook up a charger to the EV, and then charge it for a period of time before getting under way again, then I have to ask this question - Why was it done or designed in this way to begin with ?

Why couldn't charging stations be set up like drive through car washes ?

Hear me out !

You pull into the station, and you drive up to a money machine that one puts an exchange rate into the machine for a quick change purchase, and this one a driver does in order to drive out the other side ready to roll again in just a matter of time that is faster or equivalent to a fuel up in a gasoline vehicle.

The EV needs to be designed with the battery below the vehicle with a quick change set up that allows the battery to be dropped and replaced with a fully charged one that is quickly installed with a quick change robotic set up. All EVs should be built to be compatible with the change out stations in this way.

The drained battery is then placed on a charger that will recharge the battery to be placed back in the que for the next recharge entry.

Will it work ?

What about it Elon ?

It's a good idea, but not a new idea.

Problem is the battery design in American EV's (and probably most of the world).

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Well, how many batteries are in an EV?

Simple answer? One.

Each manufacturer has different battery layouts and most required major maintenance to replace.

To make easily swappable batteries then the design and installation as an easily replaceable unit would need to be standardized.

There would be standard size units for small, medium, large personal vehicles (think Prius, Camry, SUV/Pickup). 3, maybe 4 different standard sizes. The units use standard "cells" and the different sizes get more power by having additional cells.

The question is how many cells does the battery for vehicle X have.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

That was looked at by some companies, not sure why they didn't go that route.

I don't get it either.

But the reality is that different none of the manufactures have designed their system for easy replacement and different manufacturers use different design and layouts.

That means a 3rd party "swapping" service isn't feasible at this time because of the different configurations.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Don't batteries have a life span? So someone could pull in with a new battery and leave with a 3 year old one?

Due to battery life considerations there could be charges for such a scenario based on computer/sensor monitoring of the battery.

However if battery swapping became the standard (or reasonably close), then the owners of the system would have batteries lasting 8-15 years and hundreds of thousand of miles. It could be just a few pennies per 100Kw hours per swap that goes to maintaining the bank of swappable batteries.

WW

 

[jc456]

Due to battery life considerations there could be charges for such a scenario based on computer/sensor monitoring of the battery.

However if battery swapping became the standard (or reasonably close), then the owners of the system would have batteries lasting 8-15 years and hundreds of thousand of miles. It could be just a few pennies per 100Kw hours per swap that goes to maintaining the bank of swappable batteries.

WW

what a fking mess.

 

[WorldWatcher]

what a fking mess.

Oh, I agree.

A battery swapping module for one car is easy.

Scaling that up to millions and millions of vehicles across international borders with different manufacturers and different models - it's a nightmare.

Not saying it can't be solved it surely can. But it can't even start happening until manufactures commit to swappable battery assemblies and then stick to a standard.

(Here I'm talking size, weight, dimensions of the unit itself. Not improvements in the internal battery cells themselves.)

WW

 

[Mr Natural]

The overnight hotels should put in charging stations that can be charged to the room.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I don't get it either.

But the reality is that different none of the manufactures have designed their system for easy replacement and different manufacturers use different design and layouts.

That means a 3rd party "swapping" service isn't feasible at this time because of the different configurations.

WW

When you're right, you're right!

Good idea, but to work it one company would need to come up with EVs with swap able batteries and at the same time open swapping stations. Then other makers could produce compatible vehicles.

Good place to start would be I95. Find a fuel chain that is big on that route and put the charging station there.

 

[beagle9]

Don't batteries have a life span? So someone could pull in with a new battery and leave with a 3 year old one?

The garantee of the service station should remedy that.

The sign would read - "Garanteed to hold the charge until the next change out station is visited or a free road service will be available free of charge if needed".

 

[beagle9]

LOL.....OK if your car is built like a forklift.

Great example of a very organized operation. The Charging station could be just as innovative and ahead of it's time.

 

[Hellokitty]

The garantee of the service station should remedy that.

The sign would read - "Garanteed to hold the charge until the next change out station is visited or a free road service will be available free of charge if needed".

Yeah this still wouldn't sell me on switching to an EV.