It's way past time this has happened.

[Lesh]

No

But it should be merit based

We need immigrants who can contribute to the economy - engineers or scientists.

Or the quality of life - doctors for instance

They should be allowed to have their immediate family with them, meaning their wife and children

But no grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, ect

And how about field hands and meat packers and fish plant workers

Not a lot of Americans will do those jobs and certainly not for cheap

 

[Mac-7]

And how about field hands and meat packers and fish plant workers

Not a lot of Americans will do those jobs and certainly not for cheap

After we boot all the able-bodied Americans off welfare if we need more workers in the vege fields we can have a guest worker program as long as it does not include wives and children

They must remain in mexico

 

[Lesh]

After we boot all the able-bodied Americans off welfare if we need more workers in the vege fields we can have a guest worker program as long as it does not include wives and children

They must remain in mexico

You don’t seem to understand welfare. Very few get the kind of welfare you’re talking about and not for very long

You live in a right wing fantasy

 

[Mac-7]

You don’t seem to understand welfare. Very few get the kind of welfare you’re talking about and not for very long

You live in a right wing fantasy

Maybe so

But as long as trump remains in office I’m living the dream

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Some Conservative Voices Raise Alarm Over Trump’s Immigration Tactics​

Influential figures on the right have largely cheered on the opening months of the Trump presidency. But as the administration has rushed to carry out deportations as quickly as possible, making mistakes and raising concerns about due process along the way, the unified front in favor of President Trump’s immigration purge is beginning to crack.

When the administration deported a professional makeup artist and accused him of being part of a criminal gang, the enormously popular podcaster Joe Rogan balked.

“You’ve got to get scared that people who are not criminals are getting lassoed up and deported and sent to El Salvador prisons,” Mr. Rogan, who endorsed Mr. Trump, said on his show “The Joe Rogan Experience.” He added that the case was “horrific.”

When the administration arrested a former Columbia University graduate student who had been involved in campus protests, the far-right commentator Ann Coulter questioned the move.

“There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport, but unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the First Amendment?” Ms. Coulter wrote on social media.

Some Conservative Voices Raise Alarm Over Trump’s Immigration Tactics

The cracks in support show how seriously some conservatives are taking the administration’s aggressive and at times slapdash tactics.

www.nytimes.com

It's a start. But what is really needed is for congressional Repubs to do the here to for unthinkable. Call out the trump regime for their abuses of power. For its illegal and immoral acts. Use their investigative authority. Act like patriots, not cowards only interested in staying on Don's good side.

Until then, the regime will do what it has done with respect to the Signal chat scandal. Deny, lie, obfuscate, and move on.

The Executive Branch, per the Constitution (you know, that pesky supreme law of the land), in the form of the president, is authorized to order the deportation of or restrict entry by any "group" that he or she seems to be an undesirable faction (MS-13, Tren de Aragua, Drug Cartel members, sex traffickers, people who are pro-designated terror groups, people on the terror watch list, people fleeing prosecution in their home nation for various crimes, et cetera).
District Judges authority ends outside of their particular "district" and also doesn't include the Executive Branch exercising their Constitutional rights.
As for those few Republicans that are objecting to the president's actions, we unfortunately have several RINOS (Republicans In Name Only) in the party. They are Democrats that couldn't get elected in their states if they admitted to being Democrats, so claimed to be Republicans to get elected, but they consistently vote for Democrat policies.
Then there is also the fact that the previous administration was deliberately letting in pro-socialists from socialist nations and trying to place them all in Republican states in an effort to upset the political balance in order to create a permanent "One-Party-Only-Government)." Once you completely eliminate all political opposition and voices, you then have an authoritarian, oppressive, persecutorial, tyrannical and eventually murderous dictatorship and not a Democracy.

 

[Lesh]

Maybe so

But as long as trump remains in office I’m living the dream

So “maybe” you’re spewing fantasy bullshit but it’s all good because your cult is in power?

I kinda knew that

 

[Mac-7]

So “maybe” you’re spewing fantasy bullshit but it’s all good because your cult is in power?

I kinda knew that

No

Its not worth my time to continually deny your lies calling me a racist or a nazi, which is all the left engages in anymore

I’m very happy with trump’s immigration policy

If you arent thats no skin off my nose

 

[Unkotare]

No

Its not worth my time to continually deny your lies calling me a racist or a nazi, which is all the left engages in anymore

I’m very happy with trump’s immigration policy

If you arent thats no skin off my nose

I don't recall President Trump shouting about all those dangerous grandmothers.

 

[berg80]

After we boot all the able-bodied Americans off welfare

You understand there's an application process people have to go through to qualify for social safety net programs, right? Therefore, your assumption, based on the "welfare queen" mythology established when the addled R. Reagan was exploding the deficit while degrading the middle class, doesn't match reality.

 

[berg80]

Nebraska Rep. Don Bacon said he plans to introduce a companion bill to the bipartisan Senate legislation aimed at reclaiming Congress’ authority over tariffs, becoming the first House Republican to openly challenge the powers President Donald Trump is using to launch a massive global trade war.

Bacon confirmed his plans to POLITICO on Friday as market losses continued to pile up and rattle Republicans on Capitol Hill.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/04/04/congress/don-bacon-tariff-powers-bill-00273307

Here's the problem. Bacon will get attacked by the Borg for doing what's in the best interests of his constituents and the country. In the POT dissent is not allowed.

 

[Mac-7]

You understand there's an application process people have to go through to qualify for social safety net programs, right? Therefore, your assumption based on the "welfare queen" mythology established when the addled R. Reagan was exploding the deficit while degrading the middle class doesn't match reality.

If the welfare queen is able to work she must be made to work

But my thinking is that when welfare pays more than work very few lazy people will work

All these migrants running around who take the jobs for less money lower wages for Americans

 

[berg80]

If the welfare queen is able to work she must be made to work

But my thinking is that when welfare pays more than work very few lazy people will work

All these migrants running around who take the jobs for less money lower wages for Americans

The time after a presidential election can feel like a moment of clarity. The results, after all, are finally in.

But over the last two decades, the post-election period hasn’t offered any clarity at all about the future of American politics. The winning party repeatedly convinces itself it has won a mandate, or even a generational advantage. The shellshocked losers retreat into internal debate. And then just a few months later, it becomes clear that the next phase of American politics will not be what the winners imagined.

This week, the next two years of American politics began to come into focus, and it does not look like a MAGA or Republican “golden age.” The special House elections in Florida and the Supreme Court election in Wisconsin confirmed that Democratic voters were not, in fact, stunned into submission by last November’s election. More important, President Trump’s sweeping tariffs — and the economic downturn that may follow — have created enormous political risks for Republicans.

For Republicans, Tariffs Pose a Risk Like No Other

Trump’s political strength is built on the economy. If it sinks, he could drag his party down with him.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Mac-7]

The time after a presidential election can feel like a moment of clarity. The results, after all, are finally in.

But over the last two decades, the post-election period hasn’t offered any clarity at all about the future of American politics. The winning party repeatedly convinces itself it has won a mandate, or even a generational advantage. The shellshocked losers retreat into internal debate. And then just a few months later, it becomes clear that the next phase of American politics will not be what the winners imagined.

This week, the next two years of American politics began to come into focus, and it does not look like a MAGA or Republican “golden age.” The special House elections in Florida and the Supreme Court election in Wisconsin confirmed that Democratic voters were not, in fact, stunned into submission by last November’s election. More important, President Trump’s sweeping tariffs — and the economic downturn that may follow — have created enormous political risks for Republicans.

For Republicans, Tariffs Pose a Risk Like No Other

Trump’s political strength is built on the economy. If it sinks, he could drag his party down with him.

www.nytimes.com

Of course democrats will regroup and win elections again

Someday

But dont expect to undo all the good work that trump and homan, and DOGE and the test of trump’s cabinet are doing right now

The tariffs are risky and could blow up in trump’s face

But they could also be his greatest achievement in a year or two

 

[berg80]

If the welfare queen is able to work she must be made to work

If she is able to work she likely doesn't qualify to receive welfare benefits.

 

[berg80]

But dont expect to undo all the good work that trump and homan, and DOGE and the test of trump’s cabinet are doing right now

Sorry, I'm not seeing it. Aside from deportations, which both Biden and Obama did, I'm finding it difficult to find anything to give Dotard and his band of idiots credit for. Conversely, the amount of harm they have done may be irreversible.

 

[Mac-7]

If she is able to work she likely doesn't qualify to receive welfare benefits.

Nonsense

Have you ever heard of food stamps, and the (un) Earned Income Tax Credit of up to almost $6,000?

 

[Mac-7]

Sorry, I'm not seeing it. Aside from deportations, which both Biden and Obama did, I'm finding it difficult to find anything to give Dotard and his band of idiots credit for. Conversely, the amount of harm they have done may be irreversible.

In fact you wont even give trump credit for ending the migrant invasion

 

[SeaMajor7]

Sorry, I'm not seeing it. Aside from deportations, which both Biden and Obama did, I'm finding it difficult to find anything to give Dotard and his band of idiots credit for. Conversely, the amount of harm they have done may be irreversible.

Yes, the DESTRUCTION of the modern Marxist Democratic Party WILL BE irreversible...

 

[Lesh]

If she is able to work she likely doesn't qualify to receive welfare benefits.

They don’t believe it because they never looked into what it takes to qualify for “welfare” such as it is.

They think it exists the way it did 30 years ago and they are absolutely wrong

 

[Lesh]

Nonsense

Have you ever heard of food stamps, and the (un) Earned Income Tax Credit of up to almost $6,000?

Earned income credit is NOT welfare moron and SNAP. Adds up to about $120 a month