It’s Time to Formally Declare America A Christian Nation.

[Wyatt earp]

You're bonkers.

KAUFMAN v. McCAUGHTRY​

 

[dblack]

"Namecalling is the resort of those who can't refute facts"

That wasn't "name calling". That was an honest, and I think accurate, assessment of your sanity. You are consumed with paranoid delusion.

 

[Mashmont]

That wasn't "name calling". That was an honest, and I think accurate, assessment of your sanity. You are consumed with paranoid delusion.

You can't refute, so you namecall. That's it in a nutshell. Notice I never call other chatters names.

 

[dblack]

You can't refute, so you namecall. That's it in a nutshell. Notice I never call other chatters names.

You're still bonkers. Can you refute that?

 

[ding]

RIGHT NOW you control ding how our conversation goes. Honest men can have an honest conversation despite honest differences of opinions. I am an honest man. I am assuming you are an honest man. I will answer your questions as honestly as I can. I understand nothing compels you or anybody to respond to anything here.. Be that as it may be . . . I perceive that you largely
credit the founding of America was primarily based on Christian principles and behavior. I have no problem with that at all. It is problematic for me when professed Christians use that heritage to commit bad behavior. Mashmont is proposing, regardless how absurd it might be , seeking to pass a law to keep atheists from promoting their belief on public media. I’m not an atheist but that is a needless threat to freedom of conscience in a nation that requires self restraint and self assessment of personal good behavior from all of its citizenry. Not talking criminal behavior here. It might be what you call Christian model behavior. If you think Mashmont ’s behavior is good behavior it says something about you. If you think it’s absolutely harmless to banter in a message board to seriously seek to destroy religious freedom and for the government to control matters of conscience for people having no behavior problems other than not being a Christian like or satisfactory to Mashmont happens to be. 22FEB01-POST#605

I only control what I think, say and do. I don't believe it is wise or constitutional to violate the 1st amendment which is what Mashmont is proposing.

Why do you care what my opinion on this is anyway? I don't control Mashmont. My opinion probably means nothing to him.

 

[ding]

Atheists oppose religions.

Why? What's it to them?

Besides... I disagree. Only some atheists oppose religion. Most probably don't give religion a second thought.

 

[Mashmont]

You're still bonkers. Can you refute that?

lol. You're upset because I won the debate.

 

[AsherN]

Why? What's it to them?

Besides... I disagree. Only some atheists oppose religion. Most probably don't give religion a second thought.

tru that. They oppose as in they are the opposite.

 

[ding]

tru that. They oppose as in they are the opposite.

Actually some actively oppose religion and seek to subordinate religion. They make no bones about it.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The culture was Christian. Overwhelmingly so.

NFBW wrote: Do you Mashmont agree with ding that in 1776 Colonial America was overwhelmingly a Christian culture transitioning from living under the authority of the British monarchy to a wholly new system of governing of the people, by the people and for the people Never before seen on earth?

What do you think of the death of former state trooper Robert LeMay in Washington State from COVID yesterday. There is a go fund me started to take care of his family that was only up to $7000 45 mins into The Lawrence O'Donnell Show on MSNBC. I ask because fully vaccinated Lawrence O’Donnell asked his fully vaccinated viewers to donate to the GoFundMe Page. By the end of his show the fund received an additional $10,000 in 15 minutes.I figure you won’t be watching MSNBC and I’m hearing there is no mention of his death so far. 22FEB01-POST#0630

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You're wrong. The Supreme Court ruled atheism a religion. Atheists carry every bit an agenda as anyone, and force it on people violently. Just the opposite of Christianity.
The irony is the very things you leftwingers wrongly complain about regarding Christianity....is actually happening with atheism which you ignore.

This is a lie.

Those free from religion don’t seek to force anyone to do anything – unlike Christo-fascists.

And the great majority of liberals are Christian, even more are persons of faith; what liberals appropriately oppose is the right’s use of religion as a political weapon in an effort to discriminate, oppress, and disadvantage through force of law, to codify religious dogma into secular law intended to advance the right’s agenda of racism, bigotry, and hate.

 

[Mashmont]

This is a lie.

Those free from religion don’t seek to force anyone to do anything – unlike Christo-fascists.

And the great majority of liberals are Christian, even more are persons of faith; what liberals appropriately oppose is the right’s use of religion as a political weapon in an effort to discriminate, oppress, and disadvantage through force of law, to codify religious dogma into secular law intended to advance the right’s agenda of racism, bigotry, and hate.

Yeah, not really.

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[Canon Shooter]

A Christian extremist. Someone who loves too much. Someone who treats others too well. Someone who is too selfless.
If that's what a Christian extremist is, everyone should aspire to that.

Yet every one who doesn't aspire to that will be treated as a criminal...

 

[whutTHEYsay]

How did you determine Mashmont “the will of the Christian majority

Did you read the OP?

Yes, seven times first paragraph as follows:

Ladies and gentlemen, it’s time to formally declare America a Christian nation.

NOPE. No answer in the OP
there.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

How did you determine Mashmont “the will of the Christian majority

Did you read the OP?

Yes, seven times second thru sixth paragraph as follows:

If some of the framers intended to separate Church and state (which is not 100% certain), then it’s time to correct that mistake. it’s time for a Constitutional Amendment to declare Christianity the official belief of the United States. Here’s why:

The intent of any such separation was to prevent any single denomination from dominating or punishing members of another through government. The idea was to be religion-neutral. Noble enough. But the framers made a few critical miscalculations: They incorrectly assumed:

1. That “good” laws and “Christian” laws could be separated. They can’t. There is 100% overlap. You can’t have laws that help the people without them being Christian laws.
2. That a belief vacuum is possible in our laws. It isn’t, because the opposite of religion isn’t nothing; it’s atheism.

That’s right. When you attempt to ban Christian laws, you only allow atheist laws.

Nope! No answret to my question there either.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

How did you determine Mashmont “the will of the Christian majority

Did you read the OP?

Yes, seven times example as follows:

Examples:
Forcing Christian groups to pay for abortions and birth control for their employees.
Forcing Christian florists, photographers, and bakers to participate in gay weddings.
Distributing condoms in government schools to teens and preteens, suggesting that sex among these immature and obviously unmarried students is morally acceptable.
Using taxpayer funds to pay for abortions abroad.
Banning the Ten Commandments from government buildings (while flying the rainbow flag).
Banning the Nativity Scenes from government buildings.
Government sanction of Kwanzaa celebrations (a made-up racist ‘holiday’).
Disallowing references to Christmas in the public schools.
Teaching Critical Race Theory (which divides people and promotes hate).
Allowing gay marriage.

Nope: An answer to my question is nowhere to be found

 

[whutTHEYsay]

How did you determine Mashmont “the will of the Christian majority

Mashmont said:
Did you read the OP?

Yes, seven times example as follows:

This is why the left screeches so loudly about “keeping religion out of government”. It’s because they know their atheism gets free reign if it doesn’t have to compete against Christianity.

The solution is two part: First, BAN atheism and atheistic views from being promoted by all media outlets. We’ve had such decency laws before. Hollywood enacted such standards in 1934 (that have since been repealed, unfortunately). Get rid of all the immoral trash in the movies and TV. Disallow the leftwing media from promoting atheist Marxism and other atheist policies. Then, secondly promote a Constitutional Amendment to make Christianity the official belief of the land. Then we end the abortion debate, the race-baiting issue, and the anti-capitalist pro-socialist issue once and for all. The country would once again be following God’s plan, church attendance would rise again, couples would marry instead of cohabitating, the gay marriage ruling would be repealed, families would stay together and be stronger, children would grow up in two-parent homes, so there would be far less crime. And best of all, ALL Marixst atheist disinformation would be stifled, and our children would stop being poisoned by it.

no answer in the last two paragraphs to the question: How do you determine Mashmont “the will of the Christian majority

 

[whutTHEYsay]

the opposite of religion isn’t nothing; it’s atheism.

NFBW wrote: You exist in a 2,022 year old BIG box Mashmont . it’s called Catholicism. The box has structure, it has tradition, to you it’s rational and orderly. Its a goodtimes badtimes good box to be in. You obviously have done well in your box. You are certain it is the best of all boxes. There are several others out there. Those in them probably think like you.

I can’t be in a box. Its not my nature. it’s spiritual claustrophobia to be boxed in.

The opposite of religion for me is having a non-structured spirituality, thankfulness and appreciation for beauty and wonder of the natural world - plus being part of whatever the hell human experience is with no need to have it explained. The fundamental structured irrationality in which the great religions are embedded, (Buddhism excepted) cannot earn my belief. Too rational to believe In original sin. So, Jesus as my savior ain’t needed. As far as settling up with God goes - we have a mutual understanding,no lawyers involved, this sums it up.

• Henry David Thoreau was a naturalist and author. When he was dying his aunt came to see him. She was a good Christian. She said, "Henry, have you made your peace with God?" He answered, "I didn't know that we had ever quarreled."

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[Mashmont]

NFBW wrote: You exist in a 2,022 year old BIG box Mashmont . it’s called Catholicism. The box has structure, it has tradition, to you it’s rational and orderly. Its a goodtimes badtimes good box to be in. You obviously have done well in your box. You are certain it is the best of all boxes. There are several others out there. Those in them probably think like you.

I can’t be in a box. Its not my nature. it’s spiritual claustrophobia to be boxed in.

The opposite of religion for me is having a non-structured spirituality, thankfulness and appreciation for beauty and wonder of the natural world - plus being part of whatever the hell human experience is with no need to have it explained. The fundamental structured irrationality in which the great religions are embedded, (Buddhism excepted) cannot earn my belief. Too rational to believe In original sin. So, Jesus as my savior ain’t needed. As far as settling up with God goes - we have a mutual understanding,no lawyers involved, this sums it up.

• Henry David Thoreau was a naturalist and author. When he was dying his aunt came to see him. She was a good Christian. She said, "Henry, have you made your peace with God?" He answered, "I didn't know that we had ever quarreled."

22FEB02-POST#0638

What I find is there is freedom in following perfect rules, while willy-nilly permissiveness is a prison in itself. Ironic, isn't it?
Atheists are the most confined prisoners of all. That may be the reason for their high suicide rates.

 

[dblack]

lol. You're upset because I won the debate.

And a stunning victory it was!

Batshit crazy.