It's Official: Bukele will NOT Release El Salvadoran Citizen Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the United States

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I trusted him to obey the rule of law. I see now that trust was woefully misplaced.

What law was not obeyed? The judge is the one out of his lane.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Yes.
We offered to provide transportation.

Care4all

Got nuthin' eh?

 

[Care4all]

Yes.

We offered to provide transportation.

"Yes"

Nope! Even the admin ADMITS they sent him by mistake. There was a court order that the admin broke, by sending him there, to a prison where no one ever leaves once put in there, unless in a coffin. A death sentence....?




"We offered to provide transportation."

For what? Did Trump ask him to send Garcia back to the U.S., and if he did send him back we offered to pay for it or make the travel arrangements....?

The question is did Trump ask the ES President to return Garcia to the U.S.? And did the E.S. president say NO, to our President? Was that before or after their lovely meeting in the Whitehouse?

Stop!

Please STOP trying to bullshit your way through this like a good little Trumper, we are not stupid.

Bring Garcia back, because you made an admitted mistake and the courts asked you to facilitate such return, to correct your mistake.

If you want to still send him to the Gulag in ElSalvador for life imprisonment, request the court to remove his protection from deportation there, and give him his due process in such court. If the Court agrees with you, then you send him back to the Gulag in ElSalvador.

Even a kindergartner understands the question, stop playing dumb M14.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Nope! Even the admin ADMITS they sent him by mistake.

Irrelevant to the point made.

"We offered to provide transportation."
For what?

To facilitate Garcis's return to the US, as ordered.

The question is did Trump ask the ES President to return Garcia to the U.S.? And did the E.S. president say NO, to our President?

This appears to be the case.

Fact remains:
Trump facilitated the return, as ordered.

 

[Care4all]

Irrelevant to the point made.

To facilitate Garcis's return to the US, as ordered.

This appears to be the case.

Fact remains:
Trump facilitated the return, as ordered.

Nope! He did not! Nor did he directly ask him to return him....and nor did the ES president say NO, to that request from Trump.

Where do you get that crap from?

 

[Blaster]

Nope! He did not! Nor did he directly ask him to return him....and nor did the ES president say NO, to that request from Trump.

Where do you get that crap from?

That gangster will not return to the United States.

 

[Care4all]

Why are we paying millions a year to ElSalvador to hold these ElSalvadoran citizen deportees? Shouldn't ElSalvador just take them back because they illegally came to the US? They are their citizens? How many years are we going to pay the millions a year to keep them there?

What is this all about? How does it work?

 

[Care4all]

That gangster will not return to the United States.

Okee dokee....

 

[M14 Shooter]

Nope! He did not! Nor did he directly ask him to return him....and nor did the ES president say NO, to that request from Trump.
Where do you get that crap from?

You might do well to read the OP and the attached link.

Fact remains:
Trump facilitated the return, as ordered.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why are we paying millions a year to ElSalvador to hold these ElSalvadoran citizen deportees?

Unfortunately, we are having to spend those millions cleaning up the mess that the Biden Administration created by throwing open the border and inviting people to illegally enter the country, without consequences, and with no exclusionary rule for the most violent gangs, nor the unvaccinated.

Shouldn't ElSalvador just take them back because they illegally came to the US? They are their citizens?

Now, that is a reasonable point, but when I explain the facts, the facts will be explained:

Based on how Bukele is dealing with gang bangers in his country, if we had sent "Chele" back to his homeland, he would have likely been arrested and and tossed in the slammer, without us paying them anything.

But he committed many crimes in the U.S., including hitting his wife with fists and objects, so why not pay El Salvador so we don't have to keep him in our own prisons, when his gang is notorious for operating inside of prisons?

It really isn't much - only about $20K per year per prisoner. Our prisons are much more expensive and much less safe.

How many years are we going to pay the millions a year to keep them there?

What is this all about? How does it work?

As many years as we would have kept these criminals locked up ourselves, but it's cheaper for El Salvador to do it.

 

[Couchpotato]

I doubt he is innocent. However when the SCOTUS votes unanimously to return this dude, the president should pay attention. He needs them in his corner.

Do you think SCOTUS can tell another sovereign nation what they MUST do?

 

[Marener]

Of course it’s tbe question. El Salvador is under no obligation to send one of its citizens to the US to satisfy our due process requirements. No matter what the US does or says to “facilitate” this man’s return (so we can check some boxes and send him back btw) El Salvador can say no and there’s no amount of whining you can do to change that.

So the question is, why are conservatives praising and celebrating Bukele’s deprivation of basic human rights?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Do you think SCOTUS can tell another sovereign nation what they MUST do?

Well, they CAN... compliance is another issue.
The courts are extremely limited in their ability to order the executive branch to do anything with regard to foreign policy and relations.

 

[Care4all]

Unfortunately, we are having to spend those millions cleaning up the mess that the Biden Administration created by throwing open the border and inviting people to illegally enter the country, without consequences, and with no exclusionary rule for the most violent gangs, nor the unvaccinated.

Now, that is a reasonable point, but when I explain the facts, the facts will be explained:

Based on how Bukele is dealing with gang bangers in his country, if we had sent "Chele" back to his homeland, he would have likely been arrested and and tossed in the slammer, without us paying them anything.

But he committed many crimes in the U.S., including hitting his wife with fists and objects, so why not pay El Salvador so we don't have to keep him in our own prisons, when his gang is notorious for operating inside of prisons?

It really isn't much - only about $20K per year per prisoner. Our prisons are much more expensive and much less safe.

As many years as we would have kept these criminals locked up ourselves, but it's cheaper for El Salvador to do it.

Criminals are not put in prison in our country, without due process, a trial to defend oneself against the accusation....legal, illegal, documented, not documented, or an illegal alien from outer space.... We do not put people in prison, for any sentence and any length of time, without due process given to the person.

This process is the fundamental reason, AMERICA is GREAT!

 

[80zephyr]

What reason could they possibly use? We're waiting for your answer.

I don't understand your question??

 

[80zephyr]

Do you think SCOTUS can tell another sovereign nation what they MUST do?

Certainly not. However, lets face it. If Trump asked El Salvador, I believe they would comply. It would be a win/win for Trump.

Because they will just send this dude out again after a hearing, and ICE will be vindicated.

 

[Couchpotato]

So the question is, why are conservatives praising and celebrating Bukele’s deprivation of basic human rights?

1. This person isnt being deprived of his "human rights" by the United States

2. Im not here to argue about hyperbole on either side.

 

[Couchpotato]

Certainly not. However, lets face it. If Trump asked El Salvador, I believe they would comply. It would be a win/win for Trump.

What you believe is irrelevant. El Salvador has said no. That's really the end of the discussion.

Because they will just send this dude out again after a hearing, and ICE will be vindicated.

I agree that what will happen, and the admin would be wise to talk El Salvador into allowing them to get that done but they are under no requirement to do so.

 

[Couchpotato]

Criminals are not put in prison in our country, without due process, a trial to defend oneself against the accusation....legal, illegal, documented, not documented, or an illegal alien from outer space.... We do not put people in prison, for any sentence and any length of time, without due process given to the person.

This process is the fundamental reason, AMERICA is GREAT!

When did he get put in a US prison?

 

[Couchpotato]

Nope! He did not! Nor did he directly ask him to return him....and nor did the ES president say NO, to that request from Trump.

Where do you get that crap from?

How the **** do you know what was asked of El Salvador?