It Was Done on Tobacco. It Can Be Done on Guns.

[kaz]

Poverty and gangs do that. Racist country led by the GOP...Great job!

The GOP has no interest in making or keeping people poor. The poor make crappy customers and are a drain on the economy. If every one of the people on welfare were suddenly earning 75,000 per year, taxes would drop like a stone. BUT it is not this country's responsibility to drag lazy asses out of poverty but to simply provide some of the tools.
We provide free education through high school. The buildings and staff are there but we can't force you to learn or motivate you to WANT to learn.
We have and enforce laws to protect society from thousands of evils, both real and imagined, BUT we can't make people moral.

Parents MUST instill a strong work ethic and respect for others in their children. People must NOT be given a pass for bad behavior.
If you quit school or don't learn, you will probably not earn as much money as those that actually work hard in school, THAT is your fault, or the fault of your parents. To blame that on your political rivals is ludicrous.
Laws are there for a reason. If you cannot live by the rules, society can put you in prison so that you won't continue to be a threat to society. To blame the GOP for high prison populations within any racial group is ludicrous as well. Place the blame where it belongs. The GOP doesn't want people of any race stealing our cars or shooting rival drug gang members.
Remember, my friend, all men are created equal, but the promise ends there. You are what you do and are responsible for your own success or lack of it. Take responsibility for your failures and pride in your successes, but, dammit, don't demand that successful people provide anything but a few enumerated rights to irresponsible people.

I realize that your feeble mind will not be able to comprehend what I have spent a significant part of my morning to put in words. Your response will be a poorly though out, barely comprehensible short comment, likely containing the words "pub" and "dupe".
I didn't write it so much for you as for me and other thinking people. Have a nice day.

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

I didn't expect you to take anything away from what I said, so I'm not one bit disappointed. I am sorry that your life has been so sad and unfulfilling. It is truly sad that you blame society for your pathetic life.

The douche Franco attacked my mother and sister with sexual references, that's why I have him on ignore. He and rightwinger who did the same to my daughter are the two most pathetic creatures on the board. Note liberals always go after women. Real men they are ... not ... So yeah, his life is sad and unfulfilling. I chuckled when you made that comment and I didn't see the source of who said it, so I knew right there you were right! It was someone I had on ignore! I had to know so I viewed ignored content. You nailed it

I have a few folks on ignore. The people on the list are all assholes with inane irrelevant responses. They don't even amuse me. Franco does, so I keep reading his ridiculous code. Occasionally I even feel challenged by trying to decipher his strange abbreviations, word omissions and self contrived code words.

We're similar in that. Some of the most inane posters like rdean and nat crack me up. As I said though, I didn't put him or rightwinger on ignore for their inanity, I put them on ignore for going after my family with overt sexual references.

I have three basic reasons I put people on ignore. The first category is covered. The other two are the race whores who say the crap not liking Obama is racism. The third are the circle jerkers who start parroting each other in every post. I generally take the third category off ignore eventually. I haven't from the second but I may after Obama leaves office and give them a chance to move on. Franco and rightwinger won't be back

 

[Ernie S.]

That is simplly not true.

You are regurgitating the corporate media message intended to drive a wedge between working class people along lines of race,gender, religion, etc, the old 'Divide and Conquer' ; dont fall for the bullshit.

Wrong again. Half of the murders in the US are committed by black males.We are talking 1/16 of the population committing 1/2 of the homicides. THAT you can check at the CDC and the FBI. Hardly corporate media, there fella. If you'd like to check murder rates, I'd suggest Chicago PD inc.

And that has been the case with every agricultural ethnic group that has transitioned into the American main stream society.

Thanks to excessive interventions by the Feds, blacks have been caught in a kind of time warp in terms of the transition, and so their crime stats are sort of frozen rates of crime for decades now. And the majority of those killed by blacks are OTHER BLACKS.


But the old Irish immigrants from the 1800's and stretching into the early 20th century had criminal groups that would rival any black gangs today and they had some really mean bastards, same goes with the Irish and Jews.

Racism makes this different.

It is not racist to imprison criminals. It is not racist to resist demands to provide anything but the barest necessities to people who, through their own stupidity can't or won't provide for themselves.

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?


Duh. Blacks and hispanics get arrest 5x more for drugs when they use them at the same rate. Etc etc etc...more than half prison pop.

Bullshit. People get arrested when they commit crimes. Punishment is partially based on prior history.
Smoke a joint, you probably won't do time. Shoot heroin and get caught the 6th time and you're going to prison for a while

 

[kaz]

Wrong again. Half of the murders in the US are committed by black males.We are talking 1/16 of the population committing 1/2 of the homicides. THAT you can check at the CDC and the FBI. Hardly corporate media, there fella. If you'd like to check murder rates, I'd suggest Chicago PD inc.

And that has been the case with every agricultural ethnic group that has transitioned into the American main stream society.

Thanks to excessive interventions by the Feds, blacks have been caught in a kind of time warp in terms of the transition, and so their crime stats are sort of frozen rates of crime for decades now. And the majority of those killed by blacks are OTHER BLACKS.


But the old Irish immigrants from the 1800's and stretching into the early 20th century had criminal groups that would rival any black gangs today and they had some really mean bastards, same goes with the Irish and Jews.

Racism makes this different.

It is not racist to imprison criminals. It is not racist to resist demands to provide anything but the barest necessities to people who, through their own stupidity can't or won't provide for themselves.

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?


Duh. Blacks and hispanics get arrest 5x more for drugs when they use them at the same rate. Etc etc etc...more than half prison pop.

Bullshit. People get arrested when they commit crimes. Punishment is partially based on prior history.
Smoke a joint, you probably won't do time. Shoot heroin and get caught the 6th time and you're going to prison for a while

Two of my brother's wife's sister's sons spent 22 days in prison in Georgia for possession of a joint, it was one joint between them. I agree you said "probably won't do time," certainly true. But it does happen.

 

[rightwinger]

The GOP has no interest in making or keeping people poor. The poor make crappy customers and are a drain on the economy. If every one of the people on welfare were suddenly earning 75,000 per year, taxes would drop like a stone. BUT it is not this country's responsibility to drag lazy asses out of poverty but to simply provide some of the tools.
We provide free education through high school. The buildings and staff are there but we can't force you to learn or motivate you to WANT to learn.
We have and enforce laws to protect society from thousands of evils, both real and imagined, BUT we can't make people moral.

Parents MUST instill a strong work ethic and respect for others in their children. People must NOT be given a pass for bad behavior.
If you quit school or don't learn, you will probably not earn as much money as those that actually work hard in school, THAT is your fault, or the fault of your parents. To blame that on your political rivals is ludicrous.
Laws are there for a reason. If you cannot live by the rules, society can put you in prison so that you won't continue to be a threat to society. To blame the GOP for high prison populations within any racial group is ludicrous as well. Place the blame where it belongs. The GOP doesn't want people of any race stealing our cars or shooting rival drug gang members.
Remember, my friend, all men are created equal, but the promise ends there. You are what you do and are responsible for your own success or lack of it. Take responsibility for your failures and pride in your successes, but, dammit, don't demand that successful people provide anything but a few enumerated rights to irresponsible people.

I realize that your feeble mind will not be able to comprehend what I have spent a significant part of my morning to put in words. Your response will be a poorly though out, barely comprehensible short comment, likely containing the words "pub" and "dupe".
I didn't write it so much for you as for me and other thinking people. Have a nice day.

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

I didn't expect you to take anything away from what I said, so I'm not one bit disappointed. I am sorry that your life has been so sad and unfulfilling. It is truly sad that you blame society for your pathetic life.

The douche Franco attacked my mother and sister with sexual references, that's why I have him on ignore. He and rightwinger who did the same to my daughter are the two most pathetic creatures on the board. Note liberals always go after women. Real men they are ... not ... So yeah, his life is sad and unfulfilling. I chuckled when you made that comment and I didn't see the source of who said it, so I knew right there you were right! It was someone I had on ignore! I had to know so I viewed ignored content. You nailed it

I have a few folks on ignore. The people on the list are all assholes with inane irrelevant responses. They don't even amuse me. Franco does, so I keep reading his ridiculous code. Occasionally I even feel challenged by trying to decipher his strange abbreviations, word omissions and self contrived code words.

We're similar in that. Some of the most inane posters like rdean and nat crack me up. As I said though, I didn't put him or rightwinger on ignore for their inanity, I put them on ignore for going after my family with overt sexual references.

I have three basic reasons I put people on ignore. The first category is covered. The other two are the race whores who say the crap not liking Obama is racism. The third are the circle jerkers who start parroting each other in every post. I generally take the third category off ignore eventually. I haven't from the second but I may after Obama leaves office and give them a chance to move on. Franco and rightwinger won't be back

Cool....Kaz has me on ignore
Now I can tell you about my "overt sexual references" about his family

Kaz was saying how his daughter has a PhD in French
I asked what a PhD in French knows that a 6 year old born in France doesn't

He called me stupid and so I asked if it had anything to do with kissing involving the tongue

Shhhhhh....don't tell kaz

 

[Ernie S.]

The GOP has no interest in making or keeping people poor. The poor make crappy customers and are a drain on the economy. If every one of the people on welfare were suddenly earning 75,000 per year, taxes would drop like a stone. BUT it is not this country's responsibility to drag lazy asses out of poverty but to simply provide some of the tools.
We provide free education through high school. The buildings and staff are there but we can't force you to learn or motivate you to WANT to learn.
We have and enforce laws to protect society from thousands of evils, both real and imagined, BUT we can't make people moral.

Parents MUST instill a strong work ethic and respect for others in their children. People must NOT be given a pass for bad behavior.
If you quit school or don't learn, you will probably not earn as much money as those that actually work hard in school, THAT is your fault, or the fault of your parents. To blame that on your political rivals is ludicrous.
Laws are there for a reason. If you cannot live by the rules, society can put you in prison so that you won't continue to be a threat to society. To blame the GOP for high prison populations within any racial group is ludicrous as well. Place the blame where it belongs. The GOP doesn't want people of any race stealing our cars or shooting rival drug gang members.
Remember, my friend, all men are created equal, but the promise ends there. You are what you do and are responsible for your own success or lack of it. Take responsibility for your failures and pride in your successes, but, dammit, don't demand that successful people provide anything but a few enumerated rights to irresponsible people.

I realize that your feeble mind will not be able to comprehend what I have spent a significant part of my morning to put in words. Your response will be a poorly though out, barely comprehensible short comment, likely containing the words "pub" and "dupe".
I didn't write it so much for you as for me and other thinking people. Have a nice day.

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

I didn't expect you to take anything away from what I said, so I'm not one bit disappointed. I am sorry that your life has been so sad and unfulfilling. It is truly sad that you blame society for your pathetic life.

The douche Franco attacked my mother and sister with sexual references, that's why I have him on ignore. He and rightwinger who did the same to my daughter are the two most pathetic creatures on the board. Note liberals always go after women. Real men they are ... not ... So yeah, his life is sad and unfulfilling. I chuckled when you made that comment and I didn't see the source of who said it, so I knew right there you were right! It was someone I had on ignore! I had to know so I viewed ignored content. You nailed it

I have a few folks on ignore. The people on the list are all assholes with inane irrelevant responses. They don't even amuse me. Franco does, so I keep reading his ridiculous code. Occasionally I even feel challenged by trying to decipher his strange abbreviations, word omissions and self contrived code words.

We're similar in that. Some of the most inane posters like rdean and nat crack me up. As I said though, I didn't put him or rightwinger on ignore for their inanity, I put them on ignore for going after my family with overt sexual references.

I have three basic reasons I put people on ignore. The first category is covered. The other two are the race whores who say the crap not liking Obama is racism. The third are the circle jerkers who start parroting each other in every post. I generally take the third category off ignore eventually. I haven't from the second but I may after Obama leaves office and give them a chance to move on. Franco and rightwinger won't be back

Your reasoning is valid. The one member who went family on me, then later PMed a vulgar photo never went on ignore. He became an enemy, especially when STAFF gave him a pass and banned me for getting pissed and letting the board know what was going on. I got all creative on him resulting in some additional "rules" being created. He's since banned permanently. There's another dick that called me a homphobe and a racist every time I disagreed with his insane rants. I drove him over the edge and he got banned too. I heard he passed away a year or so ago.

 

[JimBowie1958]

That people spend any time in jail for simple possession of pot is outrageous.

In a day and age when queers can marry, a person under investigation by the FBI can run for President, and we release violent criminals from imprisonment while still posing a danger to society, etc, putting people in prison for having a recreational drug in small user only amounts is simply retarded.

 

[kaz]

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

I didn't expect you to take anything away from what I said, so I'm not one bit disappointed. I am sorry that your life has been so sad and unfulfilling. It is truly sad that you blame society for your pathetic life.

The douche Franco attacked my mother and sister with sexual references, that's why I have him on ignore. He and rightwinger who did the same to my daughter are the two most pathetic creatures on the board. Note liberals always go after women. Real men they are ... not ... So yeah, his life is sad and unfulfilling. I chuckled when you made that comment and I didn't see the source of who said it, so I knew right there you were right! It was someone I had on ignore! I had to know so I viewed ignored content. You nailed it

I have a few folks on ignore. The people on the list are all assholes with inane irrelevant responses. They don't even amuse me. Franco does, so I keep reading his ridiculous code. Occasionally I even feel challenged by trying to decipher his strange abbreviations, word omissions and self contrived code words.

We're similar in that. Some of the most inane posters like rdean and nat crack me up. As I said though, I didn't put him or rightwinger on ignore for their inanity, I put them on ignore for going after my family with overt sexual references.

I have three basic reasons I put people on ignore. The first category is covered. The other two are the race whores who say the crap not liking Obama is racism. The third are the circle jerkers who start parroting each other in every post. I generally take the third category off ignore eventually. I haven't from the second but I may after Obama leaves office and give them a chance to move on. Franco and rightwinger won't be back

Your reasoning is valid. The one member who went family on me, then later PMed a vulgar photo never went on ignore. He became an enemy, especially when STAFF gave him a pass and banned me for getting pissed and letting the board know what was going on. I got all creative on him resulting in some additional "rules" being created. He's since banned permanently. There's another dick that called me a homphobe and a racist every time I disagreed with his insane rants. I drove him over the edge and he got banned too. I heard he passed away a year or so ago.

Nice job

 

[Divine Wind]

More Americans have been killed by smoking than have been killed by illegal drugs

Correct. Notice "firearms deaths" is not only seventh on the list, but over half of those deaths are suicides. Better mental health care would not only cut those numbers in half (along with non-gun suicides) but may help the nut jobs and closet homosexuals like Omar Mateen cope with his sexual preference.

 

[rightwinger]

More Americans have been killed by smoking than have been killed by illegal drugs

Correct. Notice "firearms deaths" is not only seventh on the list, but over half of those deaths are suicides. Better mental health care would not only cut those numbers in half (along with non-gun suicides) but may help the nut jobs and closet homosexuals like Omar Mateen cope with his sexual preference.

But firearms are our primary tool in homicides......by a wide margin

 

[Divine Wind]

But firearms are our primary tool in homicides......by a wide margin

Running away from your own chart? LOL.

Handguns, usually firing far less than 10 shots, do account for the vast majority of murders. What strikes you most about these statistics?
Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

 

[rightwinger]

But firearms are our primary tool in homicides......by a wide margin

Running away from your own chart? LOL.

Handguns, usually firing far less than 10 shots, do account for the vast majority of murders. What strikes you most about these statistics?
Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

 

[Ernie S.]

He called you stupid because you ARE stupid. What does a 6 year old know besides maybe how to count to 10?
You are pushing the envelope here. Your comments are inane and frequently irrelevant, but I still find you somewhat amusing. Not nearly as entertaining as Franco, but you are slightly more comprehensible so not as intellectually challenging. When you fail to amuse me, you'll be on the list very soon.

 

[Divine Wind]

But firearms are our primary tool in homicides......by a wide margin

Running away from your own chart? LOL.

Handguns, usually firing far less than 10 shots, do account for the vast majority of murders. What strikes you most about these statistics?
Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

Thanks for agreeing with me plus providing evidence that, 1) handguns kill far more people than "scary-looking guns" and 2) despite the numbers of guns in the population increasing, the rate of gun homicides has been going down for decades. Logically, the number and type of guns obviously isn't the problem.

 

[rightwinger]

But firearms are our primary tool in homicides......by a wide margin

Running away from your own chart? LOL.

Handguns, usually firing far less than 10 shots, do account for the vast majority of murders. What strikes you most about these statistics?
Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

Thanks for agreeing with me plus providing evidence that, 1) handguns kill far more people than "scary-looking guns" and 2) despite the numbers of guns in the population increasing, the rate of gun homicides has been going down for decades. Logically, the number and type of guns obviously isn't the problem.

Shows how gullible gun nuts are

Obama is going to take your guns
Obama is going to take your guns

Better stock up....You know how he is

 

[bendog]

But firearms are our primary tool in homicides......by a wide margin

Running away from your own chart? LOL.

Handguns, usually firing far less than 10 shots, do account for the vast majority of murders. What strikes you most about these statistics?
Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

Thanks for agreeing with me plus providing evidence that, 1) handguns kill far more people than "scary-looking guns" and 2) despite the numbers of guns in the population increasing, the rate of gun homicides has been going down for decades. Logically, the number and type of guns obviously isn't the problem.

Shows how gullible gun nuts are

Obama is going to take your guns
Obama is going to take your guns

Better stock up....You know how he is

I'm pissed. Unless my daughter wanted a hand gun I was going to finally stop being the last white male in Mississippi without an AR-15. The price probably just doubled.

I'm really sorry for the families of the victims though.

 

[Divine Wind]

I'm pissed. Unless my daughter wanted a hand gun I was going to finally stop being the last white male in Mississippi without an AR-15. The price probably just doubled.

I'm really sorry for the families of the victims though.

I learned that lesson the last time the anti-gun mob tried to ban guns.

FWIW, I prefer the AK-47. Lots of options, cheaper & more effective ammo.

Agreed. Gay Islamic terrorists are horrible people.

 

[Divine Wind]

I'm already invested in ammo, but gun manufacturer stocks are skyrocketing. Once again, the anti-gun Democrats are the best thing to happen to gun manufacturers.

Smith & Wesson, Sturm Ruger stock prices rise after Orlando massacre
Shares of gunmakers Smith & Wesson and Sturm Ruger gained 6.9 percent and 8.5 percent, respectively, Monday following the massacre in Orlando, Florida.

 

[Divine Wind]

....Obama is going to take your guns
Obama is going to take your guns

Better stock up....You know how he is

Correct.

 

[hadit]

Higher minority population equates to more crime. Murder rates in major cities are on the rise. Cities Grapple With Rising Murder Rates

That is simplly not true.

You are regurgitating the corporate media message intended to drive a wedge between working class people along lines of race,gender, religion, etc, the old 'Divide and Conquer' ; dont fall for the bullshit.

Wrong again. Half of the murders in the US are committed by black males.We are talking 1/16 of the population committing 1/2 of the homicides. THAT you can check at the CDC and the FBI. Hardly corporate media, there fella. If you'd like to check murder rates, I'd suggest Chicago PD inc.

Poverty and gangs do that. Racist country led by the GOP...Great job!

The GOP has no interest in making or keeping people poor. The poor make crappy customers and are a drain on the economy. If every one of the people on welfare were suddenly earning 75,000 per year, taxes would drop like a stone. BUT it is not this country's responsibility to drag lazy asses out of poverty but to simply provide some of the tools.
We provide free education through high school. The buildings and staff are there but we can't force you to learn or motivate you to WANT to learn.
We have and enforce laws to protect society from thousands of evils, both real and imagined, BUT we can't make people moral.

Parents MUST instill a strong work ethic and respect for others in their children. People must NOT be given a pass for bad behavior.
If you quit school or don't learn, you will probably not earn as much money as those that actually work hard in school, THAT is your fault, or the fault of your parents. To blame that on your political rivals is ludicrous.
Laws are there for a reason. If you cannot live by the rules, society can put you in prison so that you won't continue to be a threat to society. To blame the GOP for high prison populations within any racial group is ludicrous as well. Place the blame where it belongs. The GOP doesn't want people of any race stealing our cars or shooting rival drug gang members.
Remember, my friend, all men are created equal, but the promise ends there. You are what you do and are responsible for your own success or lack of it. Take responsibility for your failures and pride in your successes, but, dammit, don't demand that successful people provide anything but a few enumerated rights to irresponsible people.

I realize that your feeble mind will not be able to comprehend what I have spent a significant part of my morning to put in words. Your response will be a poorly though out, barely comprehensible short comment, likely containing the words "pub" and "dupe".
I didn't write it so much for you as for me and other thinking people. Have a nice day.

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

Boy, the democrats haven't been doing much about it, have they?

 

[GHook93]

Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...

Both sides are wrong!