It pays not to work in Biden’s America, thanks to welfare benefits

[basquebromance]

In unsurprising news… It pays NOT to work in Biden’s America. Keep working hard folks to support those who aren’t willing to work at all!

It pays not to work in Biden’s America — and here’s the proof

Shockingly high welfare benefits might explain why so many businesses can’t get workers back on the job almost three years after COVID-19 hit these shores.

nypost.com

 

[Moonglow]

The US has had welfare for many years, hell, it was very generous during Trump.

 

[gipper]

I thought Clinton ended it.

 

[Lisa558]

I thought Clinton ended it.

Obama expanded it, and got rid of the work requirements, and now Biden expanded it more.

 

[yidnar]

The US has had welfare for many years, hell, it was very generous during Trump.

you never ever say anything negative about Biden or the dems ..... you always deflect .

 

[gipper]

Obama expanded it, and got rid of the work requirements, and now Biden expanded it more.

It would be nice and far more effective if our corrupt government would actually do something about the causes of poverty in this country.

 

[Moonglow]

you never ever say anything negative about Biden or the dems ..... you always deflect .

You certainly hate the truth. This sudden recognition of welfare in the US by the echo chamber excites the ignorant.

 

[Winston]

In unsurprising news… It pays NOT to work in Biden’s America. Keep working hard folks to support those who aren’t willing to work at all!

It pays not to work in Biden’s America — and here’s the proof

Shockingly high welfare benefits might explain why so many businesses can’t get workers back on the job almost three years after COVID-19 hit these shores.

nypost.com

The article is disingenuous at best. Most of this "income" comes from the ACA subsidies, but that income is compared to the income of those working without calculating the value of their health care benefit. A false comparison since the average premium for a group health family insurance policy is over twenty grand, a large percentage usually paid by the employer.

From the article,

To be clear, unemployment insurance is at least time-limited to six months in most states. But while Americans are receiving those benefits, the financial incentive to jump into the job market is low.

Persactly, that is how unemployment benefits are designed. It relieves the pressure of hurrying to get a job that could result in underemployment. An automotive tech working at McDonald's is not a good scenario for the overall economy.

 

[Lisa558]

It would be nice and far more effective if our corrupt government would actually do something about the causes of poverty in this country.

What about just requiring people to get a job in order to get any welfare benefits? Employers are offering over $15 an hour and will take any warm body, and still people are choosing to sit home or hang out on the street corner instead.

 

[DBA]

What about just requiring people to get a job in order to get any welfare benefits? Employers are offering over $15 an hour and will take any warm body, and still people are choosing to sit home or hang out on the street corner instead.

This would require effort and personal responsiblity, both of which are kryptonite to many Democrats.

 

[Lisa558]

This would require effort and personal responsiblity, both of which are kryptonite to many Democrats.

Yup. They like to blame everyone else but themselves. Just correct the behavior that leads to poverty - f’ing in high school without birth control, and dropping out of school with a baby one can’t afford - and the problem is solved. We the taxpayers even PAY for post-high school training!

You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.

 

[DBA]

Yup. They like to blame everyone else but themselves. Just correct the behavior that leads to poverty - f’ing in high school without birth control, and dropping out of school with a baby one can’t afford - and the problem is solved. We the taxpayers even PAY for post-high school training!

You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.

Yep and it is a vicious cycle that is only getting worse thanks to Democratic policies which never force a change. Instead they talk of more freebees and make more excuses for the lower class. If a 25 year old is still living in the basement and playing video games all day instead of working, buying him more games and computer hardware is not a winning strategy. I say turn off the electricity and the Internet and see what happens. It is amazing what people when do when their feet are held to the fire.

 

[Winston]

What about just requiring people to get a job in order to get any welfare benefits? Employers are offering over $15 an hour and will take any warm body, and still people are choosing to sit home or hang out on the street corner instead.

We tried work requirements, they don't work'

Welfare Work Requirements Have to Go | Washington Monthly

I used to believe Clinton’s welfare reform would fix the old system and help millions, but the must-work rules backfired. There’s a better way.

washingtonmonthly.com

A review of federally-funded “welfare-to-work” programs from 1996 until 2004 showed modest impacts at best, with most participants unable to find stable employment. Those who did work earned an average wage (in 2004 dollars) of only $8 an hour and had no access to employer-sponsored benefits like health insurance (albeit many continued on Medicaid). Welfare recipients subject to work requirements “were more likely to live in deep poverty than to have incomes above the poverty line,” according to a lengthier 2016 analysis by the Center on Budget’s LaDonna Pavetti, whose data included the Great Recession. Gains in earnings were minimal or offset by cuts in benefits, and many recipients were trapped in dead-end, low-wage jobs. Yes, welfare reform led to work for some. But it didn’t lead to work that remotely approached a middle-class life.
The key takeaway, " Welfare recipients subject to work requirements “were more likely to live in deep poverty than to have incomes above the poverty line,”. Look, it is one thing to be living in poverty, on welfare, and not working. But working, on welfare, and STILL IN POVERTY. That is horseshit. Look, I thought the whole purpose of getting these people back in the workforce was to provide them with dignity, show them that hard work pays off, can improve their lives, and provide them with motivation. But what about this,

AFDC’s structure penalized work by cutting benefits dollar-for-dollar on the wages recipients earned.

WTF? I mean that is stupid. Look, even a prisoner pressing license plates gets some dollars deposited into their commissary account that they wouldn't otherwise have. But forcing someone on AFDC to work twenty hours a week and gain NOTHING, who the hell supports that, and the bigger question, who the hell does it benefit because it sure ain't the worker. How the hell is that teaching them the value of work? Where the hell is the dignity?

The answer is simple, guaranteed minimum income. Everyone gets a damn check, you get one too, maybe help make up for the fact that your Big Mac might cost a little more when McDonald's has to pay a living wage instead of depend on welfare to subsidize their workers. Seems to work out for them in Europe. Hell, Walmart has an entire department dedicated to helping their employees get government benefits, like welfare. Hello? I mean let that sink in for a moment. It is insulting.

But with GMI, at least that single mother that strikes out and gets a job gets to keep some of the extra money she earns. Under the status quo, that is not what happens.

Look, I am sick and damn tired of these stupid threads. One almost every day. Lamenting about people not working. Why? The only thing that makes sense is you are crying because businesses can't pay people dirt and they show up to churn out a Big Mac for your fatass. Seriously, you would take a single mother of an infant, force her to place the kid in daycare, and show up at McDonald's to take your order at the drive thru for eight bucks an hour. Just so you can save a quarter or so. Damn sad if you ask me. I mean here is a thought. Fawk McDonald's. Cook a frozen beef patty, get a bun, some lettuce, cheese, and thousand island, AND MAKE YOUR DAMN OWN you lazy ass shit.

One of the grooms at my sons wedding was a Civil Engineer. Graduated Summa Cum Laude, got a good job prior to Covid. But then he got laid off. Oh, he milked the unemployment benefits, put that money in the stock market and built a pretty good portfolio. He lives in a cabin, built before the Civil War, in the Blue Ridge mountains on about 80 acres. He has Google fiber, not sure how that happened but more power to him. He hasn't struck a lick since he was laid off. What he has done is cleared off about 40 acres, built multiple log cabins with the lumber. He has some cows, some chickens, is an avid hunter, and has a garden from hell. He gets his power from a water wheel he constructed by the river on his property. He is completely off the grid, except for Google fiber. And he rents out those cabins he built for his income. Retired at 25 and the very type person that you think should be working at McDonald's so you can get your cheap Big Mac.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Employers are offering over $15 an hour and will take any warm body, and still people are choosing to sit home or hang out on the street corner instead.

Let's see..

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Qualifications • Team-player and work well with others • Friendly, trustworthy and very responsible • Pride in your work and pay attention to detail • Jobs completed efficiently and timely Excellent workplace behavior Great attendance Team members who meet these qualities could be fast-tracked to supervisorial roles in as little as one year • Minimum 1 year of experience with a work reference 18 years of age or older Have a valid driver's license and/or reliable transportation to our shop in Limerick, PA. U.S. Citizen or obtain legal residency documentation • Willing & able to use outdoor power equipment 2 more items

Responsibilities • Lawn maintenance team members are the face of the company • Team members with this position perform the day-to-day tasks such as lawn mowing, mulching, spring/fall clean-ups, core aerating among other services for customers 2 more items Benefits • Excellent wages with performance raises • Performance bonuses up to $200/month Paid holidays Paid vacation Fun team activities like cookouts, sporting events and more Refer a friend to work at KLC and receive up to a $1000 bonus after 3 months of employment Spin our w heel of prizes after each month of perfect attendance 4 more items

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Qualifications • Warm body • Friendly

Responsibilities • None • Benefits • Excellent wages

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I thought Clinton ended it.

Obama brought it back

 

[Lisa558]

Let's see..

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Don’t be an a-hole. Every business has help-wanted signs, and they will take any warm body. That’s why customer service is so bad and so many employees are incompetent: if you draw breath, you can get a job.

But hey, with 42-year-old Grandma, 23-year-old Mama, three kids, and Uncle all sharing a home and food stamps, housing subsidizes, cash payment for the kiddies, on Medicaid, etc., etc., why work?

 

[DBA]

Let's see..

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Wow, some really stringent equirements there. How dare them require that you are a hard worker and dependable.

 

[BluesLegend]

What about just requiring people to get a job in order to get any welfare benefits?

This just in from Dem regime central command,

 

[yidnar]

You certainly hate the truth. This sudden recognition of welfare in the US by the echo chamber excites the ignorant.

we all know welfare has been around for decades ... but you have a habit of deflection when it comes to bad dem policies ... let me ask you a question to make my point ... is the southern border secure ?

 

[Moonglow]

we all know welfare has been around for decades ... but you have a habit of deflection when it comes to bad dem policies ... let me ask you a question to make my point ... is the southern border secure ?

The Repubs give out welfare also so I don't see why you hate only Dems. The Southern border is secure no matter what the echo chamber blabs.