Israel’s Above-the-Law Behavior

[RoccoR]

Toddsterpatriot, et al,

This is not unusual for them.

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The land is under Jew occupation,

Who'd they take it from?

so the Israelis are responsible for issuing currency.

In 1966? LOL!
You find that list of Palestinian government officials from 1966?

(COMMENT)

They always twist the conversation to a ridiculous extent as to entangle the content into an unintelligible form.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

Palestine has existed since about 100 AD. In 1922, in accordance with the Covenant of the League of Nations, a mandate pursuant to Article 22, to hold the territory in trust for the inhabitants was issued to the British. And guess who over 97% of the inhabitants were.

"...To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant...."

Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations

Palestine has existed since about 100 AD.

Cool. You have any pictures of Palestinian coins and bills from 1966?
How about a list of Palestinian government officials in 1966?

In 1922, in accordance with the Covenant of the League of Nations, a mandate pursuant to Article 22, to hold the territory in trust for the inhabitants was issued to the British.

The territory was held by the British in 1966?

The land is under Jew occupation, so the Israelis are responsible for issuing currency. Like in parts of Nazi occupied Europe where the Germans issued currency.

The land is under Jew occupation,

Who'd they take it from?

so the Israelis are responsible for issuing currency.

In 1966? LOL!
You find that list of Palestinian government officials from 1966?

The inhabitants.

LOL!
You have any images of currency that they used?

Clearly you have an obsession with currency. As if it somehow changes the inhabitant of a locale. LOL

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Palestine has existed since about 100 AD.

Cool. You have any pictures of Palestinian coins and bills from 1966?
How about a list of Palestinian government officials in 1966?

In 1922, in accordance with the Covenant of the League of Nations, a mandate pursuant to Article 22, to hold the territory in trust for the inhabitants was issued to the British.

The territory was held by the British in 1966?

The land is under Jew occupation, so the Israelis are responsible for issuing currency. Like in parts of Nazi occupied Europe where the Germans issued currency.

The land is under Jew occupation,

Who'd they take it from?

so the Israelis are responsible for issuing currency.

In 1966? LOL!
You find that list of Palestinian government officials from 1966?

The inhabitants.

LOL!
You have any images of currency that they used?

Clearly you have an obsession with currency. As if it somehow changes the inhabitant of a locale. LOL

If Palestinians had territory, they must have had a currency and a government.
You're shown no proof they had either.
Perhaps the claim that they had territory is mistaken?

 

[Roudy]

Palestine has existed since about 100 AD. In 1922, in accordance with the Covenant of the League of Nations, a mandate pursuant to Article 22, to hold the territory in trust for the inhabitants was issued to the British. And guess who over 97% of the inhabitants were.

"...To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant...."

Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations

Keep up dufus. No such thing as a Palestine in 1967, or 1948. The whole thing is a hoax.

 

[Roudy]

Toddsterpatriot, et al,

Yeah, it is strange.

establishment by Israel of settlements in the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967​

Imaginary Palestinian territory that didn't exist before 1967.

(COMMENT)

There wasn't a Palestine afterwards either.

V/R
R

Palestine, the land of Neva was Neva will be.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

I think you missed his larger point.

ARTICLE 9 Convention on Rights and Duties of States (inter-American); December 26, 1933

The jurisdiction of states within the limits of national territory applies to all the inhabitants.

Nationals and foreigners are under the same protection of the law and the national authorities and the foreigners may not claim rights other or more extensive than those of the nationals.​

ARTICLE 10 Convention on Rights and Duties of States (inter-American); December 26, 1933

The primary interest of states is the conservation of peace. Differences of any nature which arise between them should be settled by recognized pacific methods.​

LOL!
You have any images of currency that they used?

Clearly you have an obsession with currency. As if it somehow changes the inhabitant of a locale. LOL

(COMMENT)

There are all types of responsibilities that are considered inherently functions of government. But in the case of the former territory under the Mandate, there is no record for a thousand years in which an Arab Government performed any functions for citizens under its sovereignty.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

The land is under Jew occupation, so the Israelis are responsible for issuing currency. Like in parts of Nazi occupied Europe where the Germans issued currency.

The land is under Jew occupation,

Who'd they take it from?

so the Israelis are responsible for issuing currency.

In 1966? LOL!
You find that list of Palestinian government officials from 1966?

The inhabitants.

LOL!
You have any images of currency that they used?

Clearly you have an obsession with currency. As if it somehow changes the inhabitant of a locale. LOL

If Palestinians had territory, they must have had a currency and a government.
You're shown no proof they had either.
Perhaps the claim that they had territory is mistaken?

There is no need for inhabitants of a territory to have a currency or a government to be inhabitants.

Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations does not say anything about a currency or government, just inhabitants.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League."
Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations


The Zionists did not have a currency or a government, in fact, they inhabited Europe, not Palestine. LOL

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The land is under Jew occupation,

Who'd they take it from?

so the Israelis are responsible for issuing currency.

In 1966? LOL!
You find that list of Palestinian government officials from 1966?

The inhabitants.

LOL!
You have any images of currency that they used?

Clearly you have an obsession with currency. As if it somehow changes the inhabitant of a locale. LOL

If Palestinians had territory, they must have had a currency and a government.
You're shown no proof they had either.
Perhaps the claim that they had territory is mistaken?

There is no need for inhabitants of a territory to have a currency or a government to be inhabitants.

Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations does not say anything about a currency or government, just inhabitants.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League."
Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations


The Zionists did not have a currency or a government, in fact, they inhabited Europe, not Palestine. LOL

Inhabitants, not of Palestine. Glad you agree. No Palestinian territory. No occupation of Palestinian territory.

 

[Roudy]

The land is under Jew occupation,

Who'd they take it from?

so the Israelis are responsible for issuing currency.

In 1966? LOL!
You find that list of Palestinian government officials from 1966?

The inhabitants.

LOL!
You have any images of currency that they used?

Clearly you have an obsession with currency. As if it somehow changes the inhabitant of a locale. LOL

If Palestinians had territory, they must have had a currency and a government.
You're shown no proof they had either.
Perhaps the claim that they had territory is mistaken?

There is no need for inhabitants of a territory to have a currency or a government to be inhabitants.

Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations does not say anything about a currency or government, just inhabitants.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League."
Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations


The Zionists did not have a currency or a government, in fact, they inhabited Europe, not Palestine. LOL

Zionist retook the country that was their ancestral, religious, and cultural homeland for over 4000 years. Arabs had no control or rule over the land for centuries.

 

[Roudy]

The inhabitants.

LOL!
You have any images of currency that they used?

Clearly you have an obsession with currency. As if it somehow changes the inhabitant of a locale. LOL

If Palestinians had territory, they must have had a currency and a government.
You're shown no proof they had either.
Perhaps the claim that they had territory is mistaken?

There is no need for inhabitants of a territory to have a currency or a government to be inhabitants.

Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations does not say anything about a currency or government, just inhabitants.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League."
Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations


The Zionists did not have a currency or a government, in fact, they inhabited Europe, not Palestine. LOL

Inhabitants, not of Palestine. Glad you agree. No Palestinian territory. No occupation of Palestinian territory.

Inhabitants as in invaders and squatters, like they did everywhere else. LOL

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The land is under Jew occupation,

Who'd they take it from?

so the Israelis are responsible for issuing currency.

In 1966? LOL!
You find that list of Palestinian government officials from 1966?

The inhabitants.

LOL!
You have any images of currency that they used?

Clearly you have an obsession with currency. As if it somehow changes the inhabitant of a locale. LOL

If Palestinians had territory, they must have had a currency and a government.
You're shown no proof they had either.
Perhaps the claim that they had territory is mistaken?

There is no need for inhabitants of a territory to have a currency or a government to be inhabitants.

Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations does not say anything about a currency or government, just inhabitants.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League."
Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations


The Zionists did not have a currency or a government, in fact, they inhabited Europe, not Palestine. LOL

The Zionists did not have a currency

The Israelis sure did, here's an example from 1966.

 

[Hollie]

The land is under Jew occupation,

Who'd they take it from?

so the Israelis are responsible for issuing currency.

In 1966? LOL!
You find that list of Palestinian government officials from 1966?

The inhabitants.

LOL!
You have any images of currency that they used?

Clearly you have an obsession with currency. As if it somehow changes the inhabitant of a locale. LOL

If Palestinians had territory, they must have had a currency and a government.
You're shown no proof they had either.
Perhaps the claim that they had territory is mistaken?

There is no need for inhabitants of a territory to have a currency or a government to be inhabitants.

Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations does not say anything about a currency or government, just inhabitants.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League."
Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations


The Zionists did not have a currency or a government, in fact, they inhabited Europe, not Palestine. LOL

The British, rightly so, understood that the Arabs-Moslems would not be able to self-govern or establish the socio-political-economic skills necessary for a functioning state. They couldn't then. They can't now.

The Jews did possess the ability for self-determination and took the steps necessary to achieve that.

I guess your hurt feelings cause you great angst. LOL.

 

[montelatici]

The inhabitants.

LOL!
You have any images of currency that they used?

Clearly you have an obsession with currency. As if it somehow changes the inhabitant of a locale. LOL

If Palestinians had territory, they must have had a currency and a government.
You're shown no proof they had either.
Perhaps the claim that they had territory is mistaken?

There is no need for inhabitants of a territory to have a currency or a government to be inhabitants.

Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations does not say anything about a currency or government, just inhabitants.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League."
Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations


The Zionists did not have a currency or a government, in fact, they inhabited Europe, not Palestine. LOL

Inhabitants, not of Palestine. Glad you agree. No Palestinian territory. No occupation of Palestinian territory.

What were the British thinking, they called the Muslims and Christians inhabitants of Palestine? Do you have any idea?

"PALESTINE.
​

CORRESPONDENCE
WITH THE
PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION
AND THE
ZIONIST ORGANISATION.​

​

Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty.
JUNE, 1922.
LONDON:​

​

The Colonial Office to the Palestine Arab Delegation.


DOWNING STREET,
1st March, 1922.



"2. I am to point out in the first place that, while your Delegation is recognised by Mr. Churchill as representing a large section of the Moslem and Christian inhabitants of Palestine..."

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unis...48a7e5584ee1403485256cd8006c3fbe?OpenDocument

 

[peabody]

I'm a Jew and I live in Israel and I gotta say, it is pretty bad here. We act like a bunch of arrogant assholes and we think we can do whatever we want. We whine when we don't get our way and we falsely accuse people of being anti-Semitic if they don't agree with us. We like all the million$ of dollars the U$ gives us though. Why do you do that anyway? We're a totally rich country and we don't even need your money. Americans are so stupid.

 

[Hollie]

LOL!
You have any images of currency that they used?

Clearly you have an obsession with currency. As if it somehow changes the inhabitant of a locale. LOL

If Palestinians had territory, they must have had a currency and a government.
You're shown no proof they had either.
Perhaps the claim that they had territory is mistaken?

There is no need for inhabitants of a territory to have a currency or a government to be inhabitants.

Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations does not say anything about a currency or government, just inhabitants.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League."
Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations


The Zionists did not have a currency or a government, in fact, they inhabited Europe, not Palestine. LOL

Inhabitants, not of Palestine. Glad you agree. No Palestinian territory. No occupation of Palestinian territory.

What were the British thinking, they called the Muslims and Christians inhabitants of Palestine? Do you have any idea?

"PALESTINE.

CORRESPONDENCE
WITH THE
PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION
AND THE
ZIONIST ORGANISATION.

Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty.
JUNE, 1922.
LONDON:
​

The Colonial Office to the Palestine Arab Delegation.


DOWNING STREET,
1st March, 1922.



"2. I am to point out in the first place that, while your Delegation is recognised by Mr. Churchill as representing a large section of the Moslem and Christian inhabitants of Palestine..."

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

Are you still befuddled about the facts? Pal'istan was a geographic land area. Your delusion about a "country of Pal'istan" that exists only in your imagination is a hoot.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

The inhabitants.

LOL!
You have any images of currency that they used?

Clearly you have an obsession with currency. As if it somehow changes the inhabitant of a locale. LOL

If Palestinians had territory, they must have had a currency and a government.
You're shown no proof they had either.
Perhaps the claim that they had territory is mistaken?

There is no need for inhabitants of a territory to have a currency or a government to be inhabitants.

Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations does not say anything about a currency or government, just inhabitants.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League."
Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations


The Zionists did not have a currency or a government, in fact, they inhabited Europe, not Palestine. LOL

The Zionists did not have a currency

View attachment 105184

The Israelis sure did, here's an example from 1966.

For those of you who don't read Hebrew, that says 5 liras. It was so cool when Israel changed the name of their currency from liras to shekels--the same currency used in the Bible. For instance, Abraham payed 400 shekels for the Cave of Machpelah, Now if Israel would just put a King on the throne of Israel, from David's dynasty.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

Amazing that you should harp on this.

"ARTICLE 22.
The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position...

(COMMENT)

There are a couples reasons why this is rather stupid.

1. The Covenant is a pact between the signatories to the Covenant; which the Arab Palestinians ARE NOT.

2. Odd you should "bold" the phrase: tutelage of such peoples This is odd because every kind of tutelage the Mandatory offered, the Arabs rejected.

22. Later in 1923, a third attempt was made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government. The mandatory Power now proposed “the establishment of an Arab Agency in Palestine which will occupy a position exactly analogous to that accorded to the Jewish Agency”. The Arab Agency would have the right to be consulted on all matters relating to immigration, on which it was recognised that “the views of the Arab community were entitled to special consideration”. The Arab leaders declined that this offer on the ground that it would not satisfy the aspirations
of the Arab people. They added that, never having recognised the status of the Jewish Agency, they had no desire for the establishment of an Arab Agency on the same basis.
SOURCE: A/AC.14/8 2 October 1947
​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

There are all types of responsibilities that are considered inherently functions of government.

Of course you know that a state or government are not prerequisites for a people to have rights. So this discussion is merely a distraction.

 

[theliq]

Despite stern warnings from the U.N. and even the U.S., Israel continues its steady march toward becoming an apartheid state that relies on anti-Arab racism to justify its behavior, as Lawrence Davidson describes.


By Lawrence Davidson

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu threw a temper tantrum on Dec. 24 after the U.S. failed to veto United Nations Security Council Resolution 2234 condemning Zionist settlements on Palestinian territory.


Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speaking to a joint session of the U.S. Congress on March 3, 2015, in opposition to President Barack Obama’s nuclear agreement with Iran. (Screen shot from CNN broadcast)

Netanyahu called the resolution “shameful.” He went so far as to tell the foreign secretary of New Zealand, one of the countries that brought the resolution forward for a vote, that this action was the equivalent of “an act of war.” He then started recalling Israeli ambassadors from the Security Council states that backed the resolution. Finally, Netanyahu said Israel would “not abide by it [the resolution].” All in all it was quite a performance.

In order to put the prime minister’s outrage in context, let’s look at what, in part, the resolution actually says. It “reaffirms the obligation of Israel, the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations and responsibilities under the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War … and recalling the advisory opinion rendered on 9 July 2004 by the International Court of Justice, condemning all measures aimed at altering the demographic composition, character and status of the Palestinian Territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, including, inter alia, the construction and expansion of settlements, transfer of Israeli settlers, confiscation of land, demolition of homes and displacement of Palestinian civilians, in violation of international humanitarian law and relevant resolutions…”

In other words, UNSC Resolution 2234 told the Israeli government that it is obliged to follow the rule of law – in this case international law. Mr. Netanyahu’s response was to repudiate that law. Thus, the Israeli prime minister ran from the law – something outlaws do.

This is nothing new. Israel has been acting in a criminal fashion in (among other areas) the West Bank of Palestine for the past 50 years – and doing so with impunity. “Impunity” is the key word here. The prime minister’s response was, in part, to the unexpected refusal of the United States to continue its half-century practice of protecting the Zionist state from any consequences for its illegal behavior.

Israel’s Above-the-Law Behavior – Consortiumnews
They refuse to recognize The very UN that brought israel into being

Name one country that has not at one time or another violated international law or continues to do so. Unfortunately it appears that Lawrence has joined the "Israel is an Criminal Apartheid Nation" propaganda crowd hence surrendering any credibility concerning having an unbiased view. Indeed an unfortunate position for any social scientist, expected to be unbiasedly neutral, to find themselves in.
Does that mean Israel is completely blameless? Of course not, they're a nation doing what they think is best for their own protection, like all nations/peoples do, sometimes they get it right sometimes they don't and as always right and wrong can be subjective depending on the viewer.

Never realized you were Blind, Ringel

I did figure out you were anti Semitic though. Tell me, do you shave your head?

You have the WRONG MAN,Ringel,Completely...steve

 

[P F Tinmore]

2. Odd you should "bold" the phrase: tutelage of such peoples This is odd because every kind of tutelage the Mandatory offered, the Arabs rejected.

They rejected being the subjugated end of a colonial project.