Israelis Now Bombing Rafah Designated "Safe Zone" Where Civilians Have Been Pushed

That is all bullshit! You think Israel should receive special treatment because of the Holocaust. But the Holocaust doesn't give you the right to treat other people like garbage!
No, and I have never argued that in all my years (decades) discussing this topic. I am arguing that international law MUST APPLY to Israel, as it does all other countries. Did you want to actually discuss the points I made?
 
I'm not being vague. Why don't you stop being so goddamn obtuse?
Of course you are. You said "freedom of movement". I want to know what you mean by that. Is it that difficult of a question?

IF a working port was built in Gaza would that be sufficient for Israel to have provided "freedom of movement" and to have "ended the occupation"? Or is there something else required?

The issue is that you want to make it vague, so that no matter what Israel does, it will never be the "right" thing or "enough", and you can carry on accusing Israel of evil.
 
Israel told all of the people you defend to bail out. Why won't they simply follow directions given their side attacked Israel who is going to eliminate the threat they will do it again?
Wrong! Israel attacked first by maintaining an illegal and immoral blockade of Gaza for the last 16 years. They shoot at people fishing. They shoot at people farming . They executed an American citizen on board the Mavi Marmara

WHO THE **** SHOOTS AT SOMEONE FISHING!
 
No, and I have never argued that in all my years (decades) discussing this topic. I am arguing that international law MUST APPLY to Israel, as it does all other countries. Did you want to actually discuss the points I made?
It does. You cannot hold onto land seized in a war. That is not a special law that applies to Israel alone. I have proven this a number of times. Israel has violated over 100 UN resolutions. That's just an indication of how fucked up your country is.
 
Wrong! Israel attacked first by maintaining an illegal and immoral blockade of Gaza for the last 16 years. They shoot at people fishing. They shoot at people farming . They executed an American citizen on board the Mavi Marmara

WHO THE **** SHOOTS AT SOMEONE FISHING!
Oh! Add that to the list. Blockades are not illegal, except Israel.
 
Of course you are. You said "freedom of movement". I want to know what you mean by that. Is it that difficult of a question?

IF a working port was built in Gaza would that be sufficient for Israel to have provided "freedom of movement" and to have "ended the occupation"? Or is there something else required?

The issue is that you want to make it vague, so that no matter what Israel does, it will never be the "right" thing or "enough", and you can carry on accusing Israel of evil.
What this is, is a little fucked up scenario in your head to excuse Israel for the atrocities they have committed. You are lying to yourself and to me with this bullshit mantra you keep spewing.

Gaza is a prison! If you are an inmate, you cannot walk out of the prison without permission. That is not being vague. That is being factual. Gazans cannot leave the area without Israeli permission and I'm saying it's none of Israel's goddamn business what Gazans do with their time.
 
It does. You cannot hold onto land seized in a war. That is not a special law that applies to Israel alone. I have proven this a number of times. Israel has violated over 100 UN resolutions. That's just an indication of how fucked up your country is.
Great. Let's talk about how "Palestine" (actually Egypt and Jordan) "acquired" territory through force in 1948.
 
Oh! Add that to the list. Blockades are not illegal, except Israel.
This one is. You are so cavalier about making Palestinian life a living hell. I would love to be there on judgement day when you have to explain to God why you treated these people so poorly.
 
Gazans cannot leave the area without Israeli permission
This is simply not true. Citizens of Gaza can not enter Israel without Israeli permission, same as any other country in the world. But citizens of Gaza are free to exit Gaza without Israeli permission.
 
Great. Let's talk about how "Palestine" (actually Egypt and Jordan) "acquired" territory through force in 1948.
Don't change the subject. Palestinians have been living in that area for generations and they have rights. You just moved to that area at the turn of the last century and immediately started treating the Palestinian natives like garbage.

You fuckers imported all the racism and hate into the area. Things were relatively peaceful between Palestinian-Arabs and Palestinian-Jews until you fuckers showed up! Then all hell broke loose because you fuckers are too selfish to share the land!
 
Things were relatively peaceful between Palestinian-Arabs and Palestinian-Jews until you fuckers showed up! Then all hell broke loose because you fuckers are too selfish to share the land!
 
Great. We agree that blockades are not illegal. What are the parameters of an illegal blockade vs a legal blockade? Be factual and specific.
I told you to stop being obtuse. And stop editing my text. Now you are acting like a troll.

To answer your question, the Gaza blockade punishes all 2.2 million residents of which the overwhelming majority have committed no crimes. It collectively punishes everyone in Gaza and that is a war crime and that is why the blockade is illegal.

Why do you think it is okay to someone who has committed no crime?
 
Don't change the subject.
I'm not changing the subject. You continue to claim that the international law is that land can not be acquired by force. That is the RULE which needs to be applied equally to Israel and every other country. How did Palestine (Egypt, Jordan) acquire territory? Who did they acquire it from? When did they acquire it?
Palestinians have been living in that area for generations and they have rights.
We entirely agree. They have a right to self-determination in sovereign territory alongside the Jewish people who also have a right to self-determination in sovereign territory. This isn't hard.
 
I told you to stop being obtuse. And stop editing my text. Now you are acting like a troll.

To answer your question, the Gaza blockade punishes all 2.2 million residents of which the overwhelming majority have committed no crimes. It collectively punishes everyone in Gaza and that is a war crime and that is why the blockade is illegal.

Why do you think it is okay to someone who has committed no crime?
Shit happens.
 
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This one is. You are so cavalier about making Palestinian life a living hell. I would love to be there on judgement day when you have to explain to God why you treated these people so poorly.

Still at it, l see.

You’re insatiable.


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