Israeli Trade with Turkey and IRAN Thriving

[Phoenall]

This doesn't surprise me at all.

A Jew would sell his mother if he thought he could make a profit.

Typical muslim RACIST FILTH. You should be banned from ever using the internet again

Funny thing is, he always says that he respects the Jewish religion

Well he has to as his religion is based on the teachings of the rabbi's

 

[GHook93]

The Zionist that rule Israel are such a pack of liars.

They tell the American media that they fear for their nation because of a nuclear Iran.

And on the other hand;. trade with Iran like they are best friends.

Israel's duplicity is going to be their downfall.

Muslims like Sunni Troll simply cannot handle the fact that Israel has a successful economy, so they will do or say anything to delegitimize Israel. It's a way to hide the failures of thier countries and a massive sign of jealousy

true story

This doesn't surprise me at all.

A Jew would sell his mother if he thought he could make a profit.

Typical muslim RACIST FILTH. You should be banned from ever using the internet again

I have grown to not mind Sunni man. He is an advent antisemite, but he at least believe is free market principles and is not liberal. I prefer him over the dozen or so liberals on the board that are semi-anti-semitc, but hopelessly liberal!

 

[RoccoR]

et al,

The entire idea and concept behind leveeing sanctions is to mount economic pressures to secure cooperation. The plan always was to ease sanctions as Iran cooperates in some meaningful way. It would give an economic boost to multiple parties, including Iran, and demonstrate that cooperation is beneficial than to continue a policy of a lack of cooperation.

Iran is beginning to cooperate. Therefore, a good show of faith on their part is being reciprocated by an easing of sanctions. The shift in the attitude of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) to follow-up with meaning dialog and to conduct expert and technical talks with the Gulf countries is a positive first step. Likewise, the positive inroads made by the Russians have also proved to be important. And this will open the way for the implementation of agreements they have reached in the investments in Iran's oil and gas sectors.

All this is rather positive.

Similarly, the UAE has expressed a willingness to trade with Israel if it can reach an accord with the Palestinians (West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem). Since the UAE is a major trading partner with Iran, the business relations (conducted through companies active in Turkey, Jordan and Dubai) will expand and open wider portals that will improve the overall stability in regional security (Middle East and Persian Gulf); improved economic-political enhancements.

I fail to see what the beef is about these developments. These are, for the moment, positive!

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Roudy]

et al,

The entire idea and concept behind leveeing sanctions is to mount economic pressures to secure cooperation. The plan always was to ease sanctions as Iran cooperates in some meaningful way. It would give an economic boost to multiple parties, including Iran, and demonstrate that cooperation is beneficial than to continue a policy of a lack of cooperation.

Iran is beginning to cooperate. Therefore, a good show of faith on their part is being reciprocated by an easing of sanctions. The shift in the attitude of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) to follow-up with meaning dialog and to conduct expert and technical talks with the Gulf countries is a positive first step. Likewise, the positive inroads made by the Russians have also proved to be important. And this will open the way for the implementation of agreements they have reached in the investments in Iran's oil and gas sectors.

All this is rather positive.

Similarly, the UAE has expressed a willingness to trade with Israel if it can reach an accord with the Palestinians (West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem). Since the UAE is a major trading partner with Iran, the business relations (conducted through companies active in Turkey, Jordan and Dubai) will expand and open wider portals that will improve the overall stability in regional security (Middle East and Persian Gulf); improved economic-political enhancements.

I fail to see what the beef is about these developments. These are, for the moment, positive!

Most Respectfully,
R

Sanctions are a joke. Only the people end up suffering. They can't "rise up" to remove a brutal barbaric regime, and the corrupt leaders will continue stealing their millions.

 

[RoccoR]

Roudy, et al,

This is an entirely different matter. The Iranians love their government ---- they really do. If they didn't love their government, they have the capability to overthrow the regime and change it to something new. They have done it before.

Sanctions are a joke. Only the people end up suffering. They can't "rise up" to remove a brutal barbaric regime, and the corrupt leaders will continue stealing their millions.

(COMMENT)

The leadership of the government is representative of the cultural dynamics of the people. They wanted an Islamic Republic, and they got it.

If there is barbarity and corruption in the government, it is up to the people of Iran to straighten it out. Freedom is not something you hand over on a silver platter. One only needs to observe Iraq to fathom that. If you hand it to them, they will just trash it. It only means something to the people if they work to secure it and protect it.

The Iranians protect their Islamic Republic. That is the choice they made and the destiny they chose.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

The Iranians love their government??

That's a bold statement, Rocco. They tried to rise up against their government in 2009, but were halted by them when government forces opened fire on the civilians.

 

[RoccoR]

toastman; et al,

Most attempts at "Regime Change" meet with some resistance.

The Iranians love their government??

That's a bold statement, Rocco. They tried to rise up against their government in 2009, but were halted by them when government forces opened fire on the civilians.

(COMMENT)

But the Iranian People had no problem in overturning the government of Mohammad Rezā Shāh Pahlavī (The Shah). I remember how proud they were at the torture and killing of the Iranians Government Officials --- and how the merciful Islamics published the pictures of them being tortured and executed on the front page of the papers in Tehran.

The "government forces" are part of the people of Iran. Just as the "government forces" of the Shah were Iranians. Today's Islamic Forces of Iran are every bit as much Iranians as those Islamic Barbarians that overthrew the previous regime.

Today's Islamic Forces of Iran love their country and they love their leadership. Otherwise, today's Islamic Forces of Iran wouldn't shoot their own people.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[GHook93]

et al,

The entire idea and concept behind leveeing sanctions is to mount economic pressures to secure cooperation. The plan always was to ease sanctions as Iran cooperates in some meaningful way. It would give an economic boost to multiple parties, including Iran, and demonstrate that cooperation is beneficial than to continue a policy of a lack of cooperation.

Iran is beginning to cooperate. Therefore, a good show of faith on their part is being reciprocated by an easing of sanctions. The shift in the attitude of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) to follow-up with meaning dialog and to conduct expert and technical talks with the Gulf countries is a positive first step. Likewise, the positive inroads made by the Russians have also proved to be important. And this will open the way for the implementation of agreements they have reached in the investments in Iran's oil and gas sectors.

All this is rather positive.

Similarly, the UAE has expressed a willingness to trade with Israel if it can reach an accord with the Palestinians (West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem). Since the UAE is a major trading partner with Iran, the business relations (conducted through companies active in Turkey, Jordan and Dubai) will expand and open wider portals that will improve the overall stability in regional security (Middle East and Persian Gulf); improved economic-political enhancements.

I fail to see what the beef is about these developments. These are, for the moment, positive!

Most Respectfully,
R

Wow that went right over your head I see. It's not about sanctions on Iran, rather it's about the Muslim world's boycott (and the recent Academic boycott) of Israel isn't effective. The country is the most against Israel and the closest to war with Israel, has thriving trade with Israel.

That's the point. Everything else you stated is blah blah blah!

 

[irosie91]

This doesn't surprise me at all.

A Jew would sell his mother if he thought he could make a profit.

LOL muslims sell their mothers and daughters and sisters-----regularly---
-----they try to make it profitable------but even if it is not ----and only
"SEALS A FRIENDSHIP" or creates a political advantage------that is enough
for muslims. Remember to read your koran

 

[RoccoR]

GHook93, et al,

No, it didn't go over my head at all. But between the two of us, I have an entirely different perspective on "saber-rattling" and it impacts on a regime that is based on path to establish a political-economic hegemony (Iran) versus one that is on the path of a political-military hegemony (not Iran).

Wow that went right over your head I see. It's not about sanctions on Iran, rather it's about the Muslim world's boycott (and the recent Academic boycott) of Israel isn't effective. The country is the most against Israel and the closest to war with Israel, has thriving trade with Israel.

That's the point. Everything else you stated is blah blah blah!

(COMMENT)

A couple of points:

• Participation in a "boycott" over an interpretive political agenda [claims of aggression (first attacker) or territorial invasion (occupation and quarantine)] or a quasi-humanitarian perspective [claims of discrimination (racism) or oppression (apartheid)] has been the bread and butter of the anti-Israel movement since the time of the pre-engagement deployment of Arab Legion forces into the Hebron area, from Transjordan, in March 1948 - before independence (May). The rarified gases of academia have been a breeding ground for political opposition since the time of Socrates (prosecuted for intellectual corruption and executed). I've seen 5000 students rally against the administration over the choice of toilet paper.

• There is no real organized boycott of Israel on a coordinated "Muslim world" scale. And the success or effectiveness of any anti-Israeli effort (economically, commercially, academically, or otherwise) can show anecdotal progress on a periodic basis; but no real impact on a national security level.

• Iran is not necessarily Israel's greatest (overall) opponent; merely the most radical and vocal. Nor is Israel seen as Iran's greatest opponent; to the same extent as other Persian Gulf neighbors that are working silently behind the scenes to mitigate Iranian expansion and the spread of the Islamic Caliphate. None of the Dictatorship and Kingdoms appreciate the growth of Iranian influences; including that involvement in other Arab Nations.

No, it didn't go over my head at all. I just tend to see it as one small, fragile fragment of a much larger mosaic structure; a piece of little or no consequence by itself.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Roudy]

Roudy, et al,

This is an entirely different matter. The Iranians love their government ---- they really do. If they didn't love their government, they have the capability to overthrow the regime and change it to something new. They have done it before.

Sanctions are a joke. Only the people end up suffering. They can't "rise up" to remove a brutal barbaric regime, and the corrupt leaders will continue stealing their millions.

(COMMENT)

The leadership of the government is representative of the cultural dynamics of the people. They wanted an Islamic Republic, and they got it.

If there is barbarity and corruption in the government, it is up to the people of Iran to straighten it out. Freedom is not something you hand over on a silver platter. One only needs to observe Iraq to fathom that. If you hand it to them, they will just trash it. It only means something to the people if they work to secure it and protect it.

The Iranians protect their Islamic Republic. That is the choice they made and the destiny they chose.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, with all respect, the Iranians do not "love" their government. I'd say 98% want these Islamic animals out, including those that protested against the Shah 30 years ago.

The govt. security forces are just too brutal and barbaric, and the Iranian people have nobody in the West backing them either. Every time these poor people have started a big protest, the govt. rounds up a whole bunch of students and kids and slaughters or tortures them in their medieval prisons, and that's the end of it.

So coping with a difficult life in Iran as opposed to getting shot or tortured by govt. forces is the real choice. The last time the people rose up, our disaster of a president turned his back on them.

 

[GHook93]

And it is still going on today!