"Israeli policies don't affect anti-Semitism"

[toastman]

Are you asking yourself a question?

 

[Hossfly]

And this has what to do with Hamas?

Hamas is the legal government of Palestine.

It is their right and their duty to secure the rights of their people.

Since when is Hamas the legal government? They're not representing Palestine in the peace talks.

 

[P F Tinmore]

And this has what to do with Hamas?

Hamas is the legal government of Palestine.

It is their right and their duty to secure the rights of their people.

Since when is Hamas the legal government? They're not representing Palestine in the peace talks.

you don't think they would have the real government in the fake peace talks, do you?

 

[Hossfly]

Hamas is the legal government of Palestine.

It is their right and their duty to secure the rights of their people.

Since when is Hamas the legal government? They're not representing Palestine in the peace talks.

you don't think they would have the real government in the fake peace talks, do you?

You have a point. Tinmore. Right on top of your head.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore; et al,

I personally don't care which one of the terrorist Palestinian organizations holds the Presidency.

And this has what to do with Hamas?

Hamas is the legal government of Palestine.

It is their right and their duty to secure the rights of their people.

(COMMENT)

When was the last election in the State of Palestine? The Gaza Leadership is about as bogus as a government can be.

But it really doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong. What does matter is that there is an internal conflict; one that the Palestinians (in all this time) have been unable to resolve. And that is prima facie evidence that the people of State of Palestine cannot self-govern.

If the Gazian Government is the duly elected government, then they have demonstrated that they cannot properly govern their nation. If the Gazian Government is not the duly elected government, then they are obstructing the proper government. In either case, it is a government in chaos --- unable to stand on its own.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore; et al,

I personally don't care which one of the terrorist Palestinian organizations holds the Presidency.

And this has what to do with Hamas?

Hamas is the legal government of Palestine.

It is their right and their duty to secure the rights of their people.

(COMMENT)

When was the last election in the State of Palestine? The Gaza Leadership is about as bogus as a government can be.

But it really doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong. What does matter is that there is an internal conflict; one that the Palestinians (in all this time) have been unable to resolve. And that is prima facie evidence that the people of State of Palestine cannot self-govern.

If the Gazian Government is the duly elected government, then they have demonstrated that they cannot properly govern their nation. If the Gazian Government is not the duly elected government, then they are obstructing the proper government. In either case, it is a government in chaos --- unable to stand on its own.

Most Respectfully,
R

Not as long as there are assholes with their boot on their necks.

 

[P F Tinmore]

When was the last election in the State of Palestine?

Good point. They cannot hold legitimate elections run by an illegitimate government.

Abbas is in the way of new elections. He needs to step down.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I personally don't care which one of the terrorist Palestinian organizations holds the Presidency.

You must be out of bullets. You are playing the terrorist card.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm just calling it as I see it.

I personally don't care which one of the terrorist Palestinian organizations holds the Presidency.

You must be out of bullets. You are playing the terrorist card.

(OBSERVATION)

HAMAS

• (Art 8) Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.
• (Art 13) There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
• (Art 15) Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem.

PLO

• (Art 9) Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine.
• (Art 10) Commando (Feday'ee) action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war.
• (Art 30) Fighters and carriers of arms in the war of liberation are the nucleus of the popular army which will be the protective force for the gains of the Palestinian Arab people.

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck.

Knock on any door and ask: Do you support Jihadists and Fedayeen?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

Lol Tinmore reading this post, it just shows how incredibly brainwashed you are. You truly are an expert in Palestinian Propaganda

5. Further recognizes the right of the Palestinian people to regain its rights by all means in accordance with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations;

6. Appeals to all States and international organizations to extend their support to the Palestinian people in its struggle to restore its rights, in accordance with the Charter;

UN General Assembly Resolution 3236 and UN General Assembly Resolution 3237

Does this mean that BDS is sanctioned by UN resolution?

Just curious.

I personally don't care which one of the terrorist Palestinian organizations holds the Presidency.

You must be out of bullets. You are playing the terrorist card.

Whats wrong with stating facts? Hamas is an Islamist terrorist organization. Theres a reason they are listed as such by many countries. Get over it already

 

[Hossfly]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm just calling it as I see it.

I personally don't care which one of the terrorist Palestinian organizations holds the Presidency.

You must be out of bullets. You are playing the terrorist card.

(OBSERVATION)

HAMAS

• (Art 8) Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.
• (Art 13) There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
• (Art 15) Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem.

PLO

• (Art 9) Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine.
• (Art 10) Commando (Feday'ee) action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war.
• (Art 30) Fighters and carriers of arms in the war of liberation are the nucleus of the popular army which will be the protective force for the gains of the Palestinian Arab people.

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck.

Knock on any door and ask: Do you support Jihadists and Fedayeen?

Most Respectfully,
R

Careful, Rocco or Tinmore will have Imam Sherri issue a fatwa against you. They're in cahoots.

 

[Billo_Really]

What does this post have to do with the topic

It referenced the topic in the OP.

If you don't know what that is, you shouldn't be posting in this thread.

 

[aris2chat]

"The current Government was sworn in by the President of the State of Palestine, Mr. Mahmoud Abbas, on 6 June 2013." If the PLO-Executive Committee and the Palestinian National Council say that it is so, THEN it is so!

Who are you to say different?

I don't say different. Their constitution says different.

Article 5

The governing system in Palestine shall be a democratic parliamentary system, based upon political and party pluralism. The President of the National Authority shall be directly elected by the people. The government shall be accountable to the President and to the Palestinian Legislative Council.

2003 Amended Basic Law | The Palestinian Basic Law

You are mistaken. (lied to) The president is elected by the people not appointed by the PLO.

Arafat was appointed by the AL. His election in '96 was against 73 yr old grandmother.
Abbas was appointed after Arafat's death till elections 2005

 

[Roudy]

And this has what to do with Hamas?

Hamas is the legal government of Palestine.

It is their right and their duty to secure the rights of their people.

And by that token so does Israel. So don't get upset when Israel drops the hammer on the Hamas animals.

 

[P F Tinmore]

5. Further recognizes the right of the Palestinian people to regain its rights by all means in accordance with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations;

6. Appeals to all States and international organizations to extend their support to the Palestinian people in its struggle to restore its rights, in accordance with the Charter;

UN General Assembly Resolution 3236 and UN General Assembly Resolution 3237

Does this mean that BDS is sanctioned by UN resolution?

Just curious.

I personally don't care which one of the terrorist Palestinian organizations holds the Presidency.

You must be out of bullets. You are playing the terrorist card.

Whats wrong with stating facts? Hamas is an Islamist terrorist organization. Theres a reason they are listed as such by many countries. Get over it already

I wonder who first pimped that opinion?

Hmmm?

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm just calling it as I see it.

I personally don't care which one of the terrorist Palestinian organizations holds the Presidency.

You must be out of bullets. You are playing the terrorist card.

(OBSERVATION)

HAMAS

• (Art 8) Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.
• (Art 13) There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
• (Art 15) Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem.

PLO

• (Art 9) Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine.
• (Art 10) Commando (Feday'ee) action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war.
• (Art 30) Fighters and carriers of arms in the war of liberation are the nucleus of the popular army which will be the protective force for the gains of the Palestinian Arab people.

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck.

Knock on any door and ask: Do you support Jihadists and Fedayeen?

Most Respectfully,
R

That is Israel's question.

With the help of BDS and others, other questions are taking over.

Israel does not like this change of debate.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"The current Government was sworn in by the President of the State of Palestine, Mr. Mahmoud Abbas, on 6 June 2013." If the PLO-Executive Committee and the Palestinian National Council say that it is so, THEN it is so!

Who are you to say different?

I don't say different. Their constitution says different.

Article 5

The governing system in Palestine shall be a democratic parliamentary system, based upon political and party pluralism. The President of the National Authority shall be directly elected by the people. The government shall be accountable to the President and to the Palestinian Legislative Council.

2003 Amended Basic Law | The Palestinian Basic Law

You are mistaken. (lied to) The president is elected by the people not appointed by the PLO.

Arafat was appointed by the AL. His election in '96 was against 73 yr old grandmother.
Abbas was appointed after Arafat's death till elections 2005

Arafat was appointed the president of Palestine and was officially elected in 1996 for the interim period.

In 2002 Arafat signed into law the Basic Law (constitution) and it was amended in 2003 to create the position of prime minister. The cabinet ministers, who were under the president, were now under the prime minister.

Upon Arafat's death, the constitution kicked in stating that the speaker of parliament shall temporarily assume the office of president and call for an election within 60 days. Arafat died November 11, 2004 and Abbas was elected president for a four year term on January 9, 2005.

The speaker of the Palestinian parliament, Rawhi Fattuh, will be sworn in as Palestinian Authority president on an interim basis at noon (5 a.m. ET), according to Palestinian officials.

Palestinian Foreign Minister Nabil Sha'ath said Fattuh's first order of duty will be to "declare free and open public elections within 60 days."

CNN.com - Palestinian leader Arafat dies at 75 - Nov 11, 2004

Abbas's term in office expired January 9, 2009. The constitution should have kicked in again to elect a new president. Abbas refuses to step down and let constitutional procedures to follow their course. He is preventing elections from taking place.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Whatever the situation may be, the fact of the matter is, that the people and the government of Palestine is not capable of establishing self-governing institutions that actually work.

Abbas's term in office expired January 9, 2009. The constitution should have kicked in again to elect a new president. Abbas refuses to step down and let constitutional procedures to follow their course. He is preventing elections from taking place.

(COMMENT)

This is the "demonstrated" inability of the Palestinian People to manage their own house. No matter what the ground truth may be, the fault lies in their inability to sustain a functional government under their own constitution.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Phoenall]

What does this post have to do with the topic

It referenced the topic in the OP.

If you don't know what that is, you shouldn't be posting in this thread.

And what does this post have to do with the OP ?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The BDS is merely a protest.

That is Israel's question.

With the help of BDS and others, other questions are taking over.

Israel does not like this change of debate.

(QUESTIONS)

What is the new question? How has the debate changes?

(COMMENT)

The cornerstone issue has been and continues to be, WHEN will the Hostile Arab Palestinian decide to "live at peace with their neighbours" (a A/RES/194 requirement)? The fact that HAMAS is a terrorist supporting government is only evidence that the government itself is both criminal in nature and relies on threats of violence and violence in the furtherance of it agenda. The fact that the Palestinian cannot determine among themselves, the complexion of the rightful government, is evidence of competency. But the question is now and remains: WHEN will the Hostile Arab Palestinian decide to "live at peace with their neighbours?" That can only be answered (in the positive) when the HoAP sits down and, in good faith, negotiates a peace. It can be answered (in the negative) each time they commit violence.

Most Respectfully,
R