"Israeli policies don't affect anti-Semitism"

[Phoenall]

You know what is funny? Very few of the posters and readers (unless they lived in the neighborhoods of these particular Jews) would have even heard of this very tiny group of crazy Jews if those like Mr. Tinmore didn't read the hate sites and find out about them. This group of Jews is such a favorite of the hate sites, and anyone who pulls them up from the hate sites is free to grow a beard like theirs and accompany them when they next make another visit to the crazies in Iran. Mr. Tinmore, stop shaving and you will feel comfortable when you go with them.

"surely you would like to tell us about the anti-Semitism in the Gaza Strip"

Propaganda crap.

Jews visit Gaza all the time in complete safety.

That's because the poor oppressed Gazans have one of the most beautiful shopping malls on earth.
Which, of course, puts the lie to all of your propaganda.

Don't forget the Country clubs with their 18 hole championship Golf courses, 3 star restaurants, private Olympic size swimming pools and more German Limo's per square mile than Washington.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

"surely you would like to tell us about the anti-Semitism in the Gaza Strip"

Propaganda crap.

Jews visit Gaza all the time in complete safety.

That's because the poor oppressed Gazans have one of the most beautiful shopping malls on earth.
Which, of course, puts the lie to all of your propaganda.

Don't forget the Country clubs with their 18 hole championship Golf courses, 3 star restaurants, private Olympic size swimming pools and more German Limo's per square mile than Washington.

The shops and markets are teeming with goods. I wish my local market was as well-stocked.

 

[Phoenall]

Thanks for the link.

Does Hamas really vow to kill all Jews? - YouTube

Cool. Now what about all the other videos ?? Did you miss them or something ?

I skipped over the ones from Israeli propaganda sites.

So you will have no problem when we skip over yours from pallywood and the plethora of islqamic, neonazi and KKK hate sites you use.

 

[Phoenall]

Let's go back even further...
Sarah had Abraham kick Ishmael out and removed from the inheritance of the Holy Land.
Are you saying a SECULAR document has more value than the BIBLE?
If yes, please be explicit.

The Bible is a fantasy book with no legal significance whatsoever.

So what does this make the Koran then as it is based on the Talmud and the Old Testament. Bearing in mind that the Koran has been altered by successive muslim regimes to meet the needs of the rulers of that time. The common muslim did not know that the words had been altered as they were at best barely literate, so accepted the clerics word for what was written.


Makes the Koran a fantasy book with no significance to anyone or anything.

 

[Coyote]

Let's go back even further...
Sarah had Abraham kick Ishmael out and removed from the inheritance of the Holy Land.
Are you saying a SECULAR document has more value than the BIBLE?
If yes, please be explicit.

The Bible is a fantasy book with no legal significance whatsoever.

So what does this make the Koran then as it is based on the Talmud and the Old Testament. Bearing in mind that the Koran has been altered by successive muslim regimes to meet the needs of the rulers of that time. The common muslim did not know that the words had been altered as they were at best barely literate, so accepted the clerics word for what was written.


Makes the Koran a fantasy book with no significance to anyone or anything.

No.

It makes it a fantasy book with no legal significance whatsoever.

The Bible and the Koran both share a significant history of alteration and interpretation (most often to suit political ends) and Muslims aren't alone in thinking their book is infallible and unalterable. Look at how many people still believe in the myth of creationism

 

[P F Tinmore]

Cool. Now what about all the other videos ?? Did you miss them or something ?

I skipped over the ones from Israeli propaganda sites.

So you will have no problem when we skip over yours from pallywood and the plethora of islqamic, neonazi and KKK hate sites you use.

Of course there will be no examples forthcoming.

 

[Roudy]

Naturally we get Mr. Tinmore digging into his hoard of videos to show us one that he has posted before. We all know about these Leftist Code Pink Ladies, Mr. Tinmore. Are you having a problem with allowing Mr. Weil Ich Weiss. tell us about his summer vacation in Gaza. If you don't realize by now who Mr. Weil Ich Weiss is, you are very, very slow on the uptake. No one is asking you about your relatives, are they?

How about more "leftists" visiting Gaza?

LOL what a lovely propaganda picture that you've posted so many times.

hamas jews - YouTube

These are the same Jews that Iran's Ahmadinejad would invite to his Holocaust denying conventions. Ha ha ha.

 

[toastman]

Yup, the same 'Jews'

It's one thing to criticize Israels policies, but if you don't believe in Israel should exist, you are not a Jew. Doesn't matter if you have payes, or the hat, or whatnot, but the guys in the picture are the fakest Jews you will ever see.

 

[Coyote]

Yup, the same 'Jews'

It's one thing to criticize Israels policies, but if you don't believe in Israel should exist, you are not a Jew. Doesn't matter if you have payes, or the hat, or whatnot, but the guys in the picture are the fakest Jews you will ever see.

Serious question Toast.

Don't these guys have actual religious rationalizations for their view that Israel shouldn't exist? Saying they aren't "Jews" or are fake seems a bit much.

 

[Roudy]

Yup, the same 'Jews'

It's one thing to criticize Israels policies, but if you don't believe in Israel should exist, you are not a Jew. Doesn't matter if you have payes, or the hat, or whatnot, but the guys in the picture are the fakest Jews you will ever see.

Yup the only "good Jews" to these guys are the Capo Jews who helped the Nazis in the concentration camps.

They parade these fifty Jews as if they are a representation of the sixteen million Jews worldwide. LOL

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Yup, the same 'Jews'

It's one thing to criticize Israels policies, but if you don't believe in Israel should exist, you are not a Jew. Doesn't matter if you have payes, or the hat, or whatnot, but the guys in the picture are the fakest Jews you will ever see.

Serious question Toast.

Don't these guys have actual religious rationalizations for their view that Israel shouldn't exist? Saying they aren't "Jews" or are fake seems a bit much.

@ Coyote, There's only a bit of debate about whether Israel should exist now or in messanic times. But all Jews, even traiterous ones, believe that Israel will exist at some point in time.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

I skipped over the ones from Israeli propaganda sites.

So you will have no problem when we skip over yours from pallywood and the plethora of islqamic, neonazi and KKK hate sites you use.

Of course there will be no examples forthcoming.

How about you giving an example of how Jews visit Gaza all the time in complete safety?

 

[Victory67]

Yup, the same 'Jews'

It's one thing to criticize Israels policies, but if you don't believe in Israel should exist, you are not a Jew. Doesn't matter if you have payes, or the hat, or whatnot, but the guys in the picture are the fakest Jews you will ever see.

What a bigoted and moronic thing to say.

These Jews live in Israel. They have no problem with Jews living in Israel. They simply don't believe that Jews should have any sort of soverign entity in the Land of Israel until the Messiah comes. Their beliefs are 100% grounded in the Bible and the Talmud. There was a massive debate among Orthodox Jews before 1948 and after 1948 as to whether Jewish soverignity in the Land of Israel violated Jewish law and tradition.

Your attitudes are disgusting and bigoted.

 

[Indeependent]

Let's go back even further...
Sarah had Abraham kick Ishmael out and removed from the inheritance of the Holy Land.
Are you saying a SECULAR document has more value than the BIBLE?
If yes, please be explicit.

The Bible is a fantasy book with no legal significance whatsoever.

Too bad at least 2 billion people disagree with you.

 

[Indeependent]

Yup, the same 'Jews'

It's one thing to criticize Israels policies, but if you don't believe in Israel should exist, you are not a Jew. Doesn't matter if you have payes, or the hat, or whatnot, but the guys in the picture are the fakest Jews you will ever see.

What a bigoted and moronic thing to say.

These Jews live in Israel. They have no problem with Jews living in Israel. They simply don't believe that Jews should have any sort of soverign entity in the Land of Israel until the Messiah comes. Their beliefs are 100% grounded in the Bible and the Talmud. There was a massive debate among Orthodox Jews before 1948 and after 1948 as to whether Jewish soverignity in the Land of Israel violated Jewish law and tradition.

Your attitudes are disgusting and bigoted.

Try actually reading something about them before become an "authority".

 

[Coyote]

Let's go back even further...
Sarah had Abraham kick Ishmael out and removed from the inheritance of the Holy Land.
Are you saying a SECULAR document has more value than the BIBLE?
If yes, please be explicit.

The Bible is a fantasy book with no legal significance whatsoever.

Too bad at least 2 billion people disagree with you.

Are you saying that the Bible has legal significance?

Not in most modern nations where law is seperated from religion.

 

[Indeependent]

The Bible is a fantasy book with no legal significance whatsoever.

Too bad at least 2 billion people disagree with you.

Are you saying that the Bible has legal significance?

Not in most modern nations where law is seperated from religion.

How many nations in Europe have a TRUE separation from religion?
What gives Vatican City the right to exist?
How many nations in the Middle-East have a TRUE separation from religion?

Things look great on paper, including the US Constitution, when it comes to ideologies effect on actuality, it's a whole different ballgame.

The US has two major political parties...
One claims we are a CHRISTIAN nation with a Judao-Christian Heritage (whatever that means).
One claims we are a GODLESS society with GODLY morals.
And we have endless court battles that make both sides a reality as opposed to what's written in the US Constitution.

 

[Victory67]

Try actually reading something about them before become an "authority".

I know all about Naturie Karta and their meetings with Iran. This makes them imbeciles, not false-Jews.

There was a massive debate among Orthodox Jews before Israel was founded and after the founding, as to whether Jewish soveignity in the Land of Israel violated Jewish law before the Messiah came. One large stream of Orthodoxy, I believe they are called Agudath Israel, decided to accept it on the basis of Jewish need due to the Holocaust. But other streams remain totally against Jewish soverignty in the Land of Israel while accepting Jewish settlement in the land and even taking social financial benefits from the State (hypocrites).

Anyone who says all Jews must accept the legitimacy of the State of Israel or they are no longer a Jew, even if their beliefs are grounded in Jewish law, is a bigot and a fool.

Jews don't stop being Jews just because of political beliefs.

 

[Coyote]

Too bad at least 2 billion people disagree with you.

Are you saying that the Bible has legal significance?

Not in most modern nations where law is seperated from religion.

How many nations in Europe have a TRUE separation from religion?

Most have a secular system of law - not biblical law.

What gives Vatican City the right to exist?

Any nation has the right to exist for any reason.

How many nations in the Middle-East have a TRUE separation from religion?

Few - but I was talking of the Bible not the Quran. Many problems in the ME are a result of the intermixing of religion with the legal system.

Things look great on paper, including the US Constitution, when it comes to ideologies effect on actuality, it's a whole different ballgame.

The US has two major political parties...
One claims we are a CHRISTIAN nation with a Judao-Christian Heritage (whatever that means).
One claims we are a GODLESS society with GODLY morals.
And we have endless court battles that make both sides a reality as opposed to what's written in the US Constitution.

True.

But we have a system of law that is secular - not Biblical.

 

[Victory67]

Are you saying that the Bible has legal significance?

Not in most modern nations where law is seperated from religion.

He is citing Muslim belief in Sharia to argue that the Bible has legal significance. Funny huh?