Israeli Police Detains 16 Settler Youths over Fire at `Miracle` Church

[fanger]

After 3 Jewish boys were kidnapped and killed, a Palestinian boy was killed in revenge. His murderers got stiff sentences. And I don't see what WW2 has to do with any of this.

What stiff sentence? they haven't been sentenced yet

ForeverYoung436

 

[Penelope]

After 3 Jewish boys were kidnapped and killed, a Palestinian boy was killed in revenge. His murderers got stiff sentences. And I don't see what WW2 has to do with any of this.

What stiff sentence? they haven't been sentenced yet

ForeverYoung436

Excellent quest. I suspect the two "minors" were given pats on the back and the 29 year old was given insanity sentence and is probably released.

Last I seen anything about it was in last falls papers, perhaps an Israelite can fill us in on what happened to them? Calling all Israelites here.

I don't see much of what WWII has to do with it either, except they use it as an excuse for so much and daily they can't help but bring it up in at least one of their many newspapers, they NEVER LET US FORGET.

 

[Phoenall]

After 3 Jewish boys were kidnapped and killed, a Palestinian boy was killed in revenge. His murderers got stiff sentences. And I don't see what WW2 has to do with any of this.

What stiff sentence? they haven't been sentenced yet

ForeverYoung436

They are still in prison on remand awaiting trial and I believe their homes have been destroyed

 

[fanger]

"You believe their homes have been destroyed" = I'm going to Lie here, and hope anyone notices

 

[Penelope]

After 3 Jewish boys were kidnapped and killed, a Palestinian boy was killed in revenge. His murderers got stiff sentences. And I don't see what WW2 has to do with any of this.

What stiff sentence? they haven't been sentenced yet

ForeverYoung436

They are still in prison on remand awaiting trial and I believe their homes have been destroyed

Give a link for this? (If you can't I'll have to assume I was correct, in that they are loose)

I do not believe their homes have been destroyed either.

 

[Phoenall]

"You believe their homes have been destroyed" = I'm going to Lie here, and hope anyone notices

Where is the LIE then

 

[ForeverYoung436]

"You believe their homes have been destroyed" = I'm going to Lie here, and hope anyone notices

Where is the LIE then

I just looked it up on Wikipedia. The three are still in prison awaiting trial. It seems that they plan to put in an insanity plea. I don't know why it's taking so long. (There were originally six suspects, bur 3 were released since they did not participate in the actual murder.)

 

[Phoenall]

After 3 Jewish boys were kidnapped and killed, a Palestinian boy was killed in revenge. His murderers got stiff sentences. And I don't see what WW2 has to do with any of this.

What stiff sentence? they haven't been sentenced yet

ForeverYoung436

They are still in prison on remand awaiting trial and I believe their homes have been destroyed

Give a link for this? (If you can't I'll have to assume I was correct, in that they are loose)

I do not believe their homes have been destroyed either.

Kidnapping and murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia



Trial[edit]

On 27 July 2014, the three main suspects were brought to arraign them. The main suspect, Yoseph Ben David said in the entrance hall, "I am the messiah."[93][94] At as second pre-trial appearance on 18 November 2014, Ben-David declined to cooperate with the Jerusalem District Court, and refused to speak. He is expected to make an insanity defence. Earlier in November Israeli health officials deemed him to be of sound mind. The two minors pleaded guilty to abduction, but asserted their innocence of the charge of murder. Settlers reportedly spat on the khdeir family outside the court.[95] The Khdeir family is calling on the Israeli government to demolish the alleged murderers' homes just as those of Palestinian terrorists' homes are demolished.[95]

In June 2015, one of the teenagers involved testified he believed the plan was to kidnap an Arab and beat him. Upon arriving to the Jerusalem forest, Ben-David struck Abu Khdeir's head twice with a crowbar. The teenager didn't see Ben-David lit Abu Khdeir on fire but understood it from his words.[96]

 

[CMike]

More about Prime Minister Ben Gurion

 

[jillian]

Yes and I'm quite sure they will get off with a slap of the hand.

if that were the case jew-hater, the police wouldn't have detained them.

your mental illness, notwithstanding, unlike the terrorists of hamas, Israel punishes its criminals.

now go back to your hole.

 

[CMike]

This were many other terrorist or freedom fighter killings undertaken by the Zionists.

"During the fight for Jewish statehood, extremist military groups sometimes resorted to the use of terrorist tactics. One such instance occurred in 1948 when members of the Jewish underground organization LEHI killed UN Peace Mediator Count Folke Bernadotte to protest his diplomatic efforts to modify the Palestine partition plan."

The Assassination of Count Bernadotte Jewish Virtual Library

So?

The difference is that with the arab governments terrorism is virtually their sole method of attack.

The missiles that they are launching even in the past few weeks indiscriminately into Israel's cities are acts of terrorism.

 

[Penelope]

Yes and I'm quite sure they will get off with a slap of the hand.

if that were the case jew-hater, the police wouldn't have detained them.

your mental illness, notwithstanding, unlike the terrorists of hamas, Israel punishes its criminals.

now go back to your hole.

Oh the Zionist foul mouth has started again with the name calling. Man one can tell a jew or Zionist by their writing alone. Has a certain hatred and arrogance about it.

Now unless you have any proof , let me repeat, they have all been released and gone back to their homes that were never destroying, heck they may of been the members of the same cult that burned the loaves Christian Church.

 

[Penelope]

This were many other terrorist or freedom fighter killings undertaken by the Zionists.

"During the fight for Jewish statehood, extremist military groups sometimes resorted to the use of terrorist tactics. One such instance occurred in 1948 when members of the Jewish underground organization LEHI killed UN Peace Mediator Count Folke Bernadotte to protest his diplomatic efforts to modify the Palestine partition plan."

The Assassination of Count Bernadotte Jewish Virtual Library

So?

The difference is that with the arab governments terrorism is virtually their sole method of attack.

The missiles that they are launching even in the past few weeks indiscriminately into Israel's cities are acts of terrorism.

And bulldozing down homes is not terrorism, good to know. I bet if a Pal bulldozed an Israeli home it'd be terrorism. They do it at night too, when the moon is out, (must be they think God can't see them in the dark)

 

[ForeverYoung436]

This were many other terrorist or freedom fighter killings undertaken by the Zionists.

"During the fight for Jewish statehood, extremist military groups sometimes resorted to the use of terrorist tactics. One such instance occurred in 1948 when members of the Jewish underground organization LEHI killed UN Peace Mediator Count Folke Bernadotte to protest his diplomatic efforts to modify the Palestine partition plan."

The Assassination of Count Bernadotte Jewish Virtual Library

So?

The difference is that with the arab governments terrorism is virtually their sole method of attack.

The missiles that they are launching even in the past few weeks indiscriminately into Israel's cities are acts of terrorism.

And bulldozing down homes is not terrorism, good to know. I bet if a Pal bulldozed an Israeli home it'd be terrorism. They do it at night too, when the moon is out, (must be they think God can't see them in the dark)

First of all, no one was killed, like in the American church yesterday. Whatever was damaged, will probably be rebuilt magnificently. I'm pretty sure that none of you Jew-haters have ever set foot in Israel or the territories. There are so many churches where Jesus ever set foot, dotting Israel, that it's almost ridiculous. I remember on one of the tours I was on, some tourists complained that we had seen too many churches, and they would like to see something else.

 

[fanger]

In any other country the assault would be dealt with severely. It would not be tolerated. In Israel, it’s not only tolerated–by refusing to investigate or punish the crimes, Israel only encourages them. As I’ve often written here before, the Shabak doesn’t solve crimes of Jewish terror (except in extremely rare cases). It may monitor such cells and try to foil their attacks if it can (though I’m even dubious about this). But it never apprehends the terrorists, never punishes them.

Sanctuary interior: Church of the Multiplication in better days

The farthest Israel’s media will go is to say it is a “likely” act of arson. No Israeli security agency will find the perpetrator. And if they do, they will not try them. And if they do try them, they will not imprison them. And if they do imprison them, they will be pardoned by the president of the State. My money is on no one ever being arrested at all. This is the standard response (or non-response) to previous hate crimes against churches and mosques. This crime is at best an annoyance for Israeli Jews. They are only upset, if they are disturbed at all, because it gives Israel’s image a black eye before the world.

Can you imagine if a Palestinian exploded a bomb that destroyed the Kotel? What would happen? The State would turn itself inside out till it found the perpetrator/s and he’d either be shot dead on sight or spend the rest of his life behind bars. Palestinian terrorists always do a perp walk for the TV cameras. Jewish terrorists, rarely (because they’re rarely arrested or tried). But, you see there’s a double standard for Palestinians. Jews are born with a “get out of jail free card.” Palestinians are born with a “shoot on sight” card.

Of course, the usual suspects (prime minister, president, etc.) will express their shock and horror. They’ll promise the culprits will be brought to justice. They claim this doesn’t represent the views of the mass of Israeli Jews. But their subsequent inaction will speak volumes about their real views.

Breaking News Israeli Arson Attack Burns Historic Lake Kinneret Catholic Church Tikun-Olam Tikun Olam-

 

[fanger]

Israeli soldiers who beat handcuffed Palestinian get suspended sentences

The IDF soldiers implicated in beating and shouting obscenities at a Palestinian man lying face down were reprimanded and handed suspended sentences of a month each. The family of the man by the IDF is yet to hear anything about his health or wellbeing.

“We haven’t heard from Shadi since he was arrested, we don’t know what state he’s in,” the man’s neighbor and relative, Mahmoud Al Ghoubashi, told RT. “The soldiers struck him on his head and back with their rifle butts and then pushed him to the ground and kicked him. He suffered facial injuries when he fell down,” he added of the incident, which took place Friday evening.

“Then, we don’t know what happened next.”

Israeli soldiers who beat handcuffed Palestinian get suspended sentences RT News
Israeli soldiers who beat handcuffed Palestinian get suspended sentences RT News

 

[Penelope]

This were many other terrorist or freedom fighter killings undertaken by the Zionists.

"During the fight for Jewish statehood, extremist military groups sometimes resorted to the use of terrorist tactics. One such instance occurred in 1948 when members of the Jewish underground organization LEHI killed UN Peace Mediator Count Folke Bernadotte to protest his diplomatic efforts to modify the Palestine partition plan."

The Assassination of Count Bernadotte Jewish Virtual Library

So?

The difference is that with the arab governments terrorism is virtually their sole method of attack.

The missiles that they are launching even in the past few weeks indiscriminately into Israel's cities are acts of terrorism.

And bulldozing down homes is not terrorism, good to know. I bet if a Pal bulldozed an Israeli home it'd be terrorism. They do it at night too, when the moon is out, (must be they think God can't see them in the dark)

First of all, no one was killed, like in the American church yesterday. Whatever was damaged, will probably be rebuilt magnificently. I'm pretty sure that none of you Jew-haters have ever set foot in Israel or the territories. There are so many churches where Jesus ever set foot, dotting Israel, that it's almost ridiculous. I remember on one of the tours I was on, some tourists complained that we had seen too many churches, and they would like to see something else.

I have never had any urge to even visit Israel. The Israel gov should rebuild the church and those who terrorized in punished. Why would I want to go to a rogue country, and what does this have to do with what happened in the US, nothing.

Your country can fit in New Jersey, and yet you can't keep the religious nutcases from this kind of stuff. Don't compare Israel to the US, its like comparing a sesame seed to a watermelon.

 

[montelatici]

The British targeted were soldiers whom were ruthless to the Jews.

Also the hotel was bombed because it was the British militant headquarters.

They even had warnings that it will be bombed and ignored them.

What terrorists give warnings to evacuate?

This were many other terrorist or freedom fighter killings undertaken by the Zionists.

"During the fight for Jewish statehood, extremist military groups sometimes resorted to the use of terrorist tactics. One such instance occurred in 1948 when members of the Jewish underground organization LEHI killed UN Peace Mediator Count Folke Bernadotte to protest his diplomatic efforts to modify the Palestine partition plan."

The Assassination of Count Bernadotte Jewish Virtual Library

So?

The difference is that with the arab governments terrorism is virtually their sole method of attack.

The missiles that they are launching even in the past few weeks indiscriminately into Israel's cities are acts of terrorism.

And bulldozing down homes is not terrorism, good to know. I bet if a Pal bulldozed an Israeli home it'd be terrorism. They do it at night too, when the moon is out, (must be they think God can't see them in the dark)

First of all, no one was killed, like in the American church yesterday. Whatever was damaged, will probably be rebuilt magnificently. I'm pretty sure that none of you Jew-haters have ever set foot in Israel or the territories. There are so many churches where Jesus ever set foot, dotting Israel, that it's almost ridiculous. I remember on one of the tours I was on, some tourists complained that we had seen too many churches, and they would like to see something else.

Well, as I said. It depends on your point of view. Most Britons believe the people that murdered Britons were terrorists, you believe they were freedom fighters.

So what do you see Irish Catholic IRA members as then freddy boy. Do you see them as ruthless cold blooded terrorist killers or freedom fighters[/QUOTE

This were many other terrorist or freedom fighter killings undertaken by the Zionists.

"During the fight for Jewish statehood, extremist military groups sometimes resorted to the use of terrorist tactics. One such instance occurred in 1948 when members of the Jewish underground organization LEHI killed UN Peace Mediator Count Folke Bernadotte to protest his diplomatic efforts to modify the Palestine partition plan."

The Assassination of Count Bernadotte Jewish Virtual Library

So?

The difference is that with the arab governments terrorism is virtually their sole method of attack.

The missiles that they are launching even in the past few weeks indiscriminately into Israel's cities are acts of terrorism.

And bulldozing down homes is not terrorism, good to know. I bet if a Pal bulldozed an Israeli home it'd be terrorism. They do it at night too, when the moon is out, (must be they think God can't see them in the dark)

First of all, no one was killed, like in the American church yesterday. Whatever was damaged, will probably be rebuilt magnificently. I'm pretty sure that none of you Jew-haters have ever set foot in Israel or the territories. There are so many churches where Jesus ever set foot, dotting Israel, that it's almost ridiculous. I remember on one of the tours I was on, some tourists complained that we had seen too many churches, and they would like to see something else.

In any other country the assault would be dealt with severely. It would not be tolerated. In Israel, it’s not only tolerated–by refusing to investigate or punish the crimes, Israel only encourages them. As I’ve often written here before, the Shabak doesn’t solve crimes of Jewish terror (except in extremely rare cases). It may monitor such cells and try to foil their attacks if it can (though I’m even dubious about this). But it never apprehends the terrorists, never punishes them.

Sanctuary interior: Church of the Multiplication in better days

The farthest Israel’s media will go is to say it is a “likely” act of arson. No Israeli security agency will find the perpetrator. And if they do, they will not try them. And if they do try them, they will not imprison them. And if they do imprison them, they will be pardoned by the president of the State. My money is on no one ever being arrested at all. This is the standard response (or non-response) to previous hate crimes against churches and mosques. This crime is at best an annoyance for Israeli Jews. They are only upset, if they are disturbed at all, because it gives Israel’s image a black eye before the world.

Can you imagine if a Palestinian exploded a bomb that destroyed the Kotel? What would happen? The State would turn itself inside out till it found the perpetrator/s and he’d either be shot dead on sight or spend the rest of his life behind bars. Palestinian terrorists always do a perp walk for the TV cameras. Jewish terrorists, rarely (because they’re rarely arrested or tried). But, you see there’s a double standard for Palestinians. Jews are born with a “get out of jail free card.” Palestinians are born with a “shoot on sight” card.

Of course, the usual suspects (prime minister, president, etc.) will express their shock and horror. They’ll promise the culprits will be brought to justice. They claim this doesn’t represent the views of the mass of Israeli Jews. But their subsequent inaction will speak volumes about their real views.

Breaking News Israeli Arson Attack Burns Historic Lake Kinneret Catholic Church Tikun-Olam Tikun Olam-

I suspect people dismissing this as a "nothing" crime would think differently if Christians or Muslims had defiled a synagogue.


This what happens in the U.S.


Arrest Made in Vandalism of Gaithersburg Synagogue

"Espinoza-Carranza has been charged under the state's hate crime law with property damage to a religious institution, defacing a religious property and malicious destruction of property over $1,000

"These kinds of cases are often difficult to solve. I appreciate the tireless detective work by those who investigated this atrocious act," Montgomery County Police Chief Tom Manger said in a release. "The response to this incident has been loud and clear, and has been heard from nearly every segment of our diverse community. We don't tolerate hate, and we will not be intimidated by ignorance."

Authorities have also identified juvenile suspects in the case. Additional charges are anticipated."

Maryland sentencing for this crime is 3 years and $5,000 fine.


http://www.msccsp.org/files/guidelines/offensetable.pdf

 

[Phoenall]

Yes and I'm quite sure they will get off with a slap of the hand.

if that were the case jew-hater, the police wouldn't have detained them.

your mental illness, notwithstanding, unlike the terrorists of hamas, Israel punishes its criminals.

now go back to your hole.

Oh the Zionist foul mouth has started again with the name calling. Man one can tell a jew or Zionist by their writing alone. Has a certain hatred and arrogance about it.

Now unless you have any proof , let me repeat, they have all been released and gone back to their homes that were never destroying, heck they may of been the members of the same cult that burned the loaves Christian Church.

Then prove it by showing the evidence

 

[Phoenall]

This were many other terrorist or freedom fighter killings undertaken by the Zionists.

"During the fight for Jewish statehood, extremist military groups sometimes resorted to the use of terrorist tactics. One such instance occurred in 1948 when members of the Jewish underground organization LEHI killed UN Peace Mediator Count Folke Bernadotte to protest his diplomatic efforts to modify the Palestine partition plan."

The Assassination of Count Bernadotte Jewish Virtual Library

So?

The difference is that with the arab governments terrorism is virtually their sole method of attack.

The missiles that they are launching even in the past few weeks indiscriminately into Israel's cities are acts of terrorism.

And bulldozing down homes is not terrorism, good to know. I bet if a Pal bulldozed an Israeli home it'd be terrorism. They do it at night too, when the moon is out, (must be they think God can't see them in the dark)

Read the Geneva conventions.