Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15

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It would have to be free ... no one is going to pay to take it.

Oh you just gotta love a dumbass comedian...

I'm quite sure that your beloved Israel would happily take full ownership. After all, I'm pretty sure that's their 'final solution'... Hmm sounds familiar!

You're ranting Jews are Nazis and I'm the comedian? Thanks, Alanis.

Oh dear, you are definitely Team Israel aren't you...

So, join the list of people who are accusing me of saying things that I have never said...

And, I will say to you as I have said to several Team Israel...

Show me where I have ranted about Jews being Nazis... I will wait... Just like I am STILL waiting for he other accusations...

Still nothing....

You are a liar, just like other Team Israel members, just like Israeli government ministers!
I have never heard you say that, that is a low blow in a convo that has largely managed to stay above that. :(
 
...lll
They can leave and they do abroad. Gaza has no port, Hamas refused it time and time again.
Better tell me which law obligates any country to give entrance to a subject of an enemy state?
You're a fuckin' liar!

[Israel] "...does not permit Palestinian, Israeli and foreign staff of human rights organizations to enter or leave Gaza. Israel controls Gaza’s airspace and territorial waters and has prevented the operation of an airport or seaport for the past two decades..."

"Israel’s restrictions on access to and from Gaza go far beyond what is permitted by international humanitarian law and human rights law. Because Israel continues to exercise control over significant aspects of life in Gaza, it continues to have obligations under the law of occupation in the areas in which it continues to exercise control..."

Israel also shoots unarmed protesters.

Fuckers like you, act as though the Palestinians don't have the right to have rights. Fuckers like you are cowards. You never talk about the evil you bring to the table.

:umno:
Next time try a real source.

Gazans leaving Gaza
Gazans in Egypt.
Gazans in Berlin

I still don't see the law that obligates a country to give entrance to subjects of an enemy state.

And some more real sources...

More Gazans said risking sea passage for better life in Europe
 
Something else which isn’t exactly being brought to the forefront...

Desperate Gazans protesting against Israel, but also Hamas

Still, Palestinians in Gaza hardly need an Israeli internet campaign to grasp their grim predicament. The humanitarian crisis is severe, and they have identified those responsible. A human rights activist told Al-Monitor that Palestinians undoubtedly blame Israel and the chokehold it exerts over its population every hour of every day for the shortages and poverty reminiscent of the poorest neighborhoods in Africa or Asia. They also, however, blame Hamas and its leadership’s misguided priorities. They are afraid to say so out loud for fear of reprisals, the source said, but every adult and child in Gaza, whether a Hamas supporter or opponent, knows the organization’s priorities are skewed and that it takes care of its activists, leaders and the movement itself, neglecting other residents.

The border fence protests began as a private, civilian-led initiative by Mohammed Abu Artema, a human rights activist. Abu Artema had pondered on Facebook what would happen if hundreds of thousands of Gazans were to march to the Erez border crossing and protest against the siege. His initiative drew enthusiastic responses from many young Palestinians, and Hamas saw in it an opportunity to be exploited for its own ends. Abu Artema had hoped for a nonviolent protest, but Hamas decided to turn it into a series of “marches” under its sponsorship in the hopes that they would help the movement extricate itself from its diplomatic and economic plight. After only one week of mass demonstrations, it transpired that the protest against the Israeli siege was also directed against Hamas and its rule.



Read more: Desperate Gazans protesting against Israel, but also Hamas
 
Wait. Hold on here. Isn't calling to rip the hearts out of Jews/Israelis "collective punishment"?

That is just dumb!

Talk about clutching at straws to try and wriggle out of a losing argument!

The blockade IS collective punishment, no matter how hard you try to argue against that, it is collective punishment!
You forgot to bring a swastika to make a point.

What losing argument? One cannot argue with suicidal maniacs.

Was I referring to a comment YOU made?

Nope...

However, if you would like to address the dumb comment made by someone else please, be my guest...

The conversation is about "collective punishment"... Let's see if you can join in THAT conversation or you will just deflect facts and run...

However, there was NO mention of swastikas. So... Either respond on someones behalf on the topic or, respectfully, **** off and try elsewhere..
 
Wait. Hold on here. Isn't calling to rip the hearts out of Jews/Israelis "collective punishment"?

That is just dumb!

Talk about clutching at straws to try and wriggle out of a losing argument!

The blockade IS collective punishment, no matter how hard you try to argue against that, it is collective punishment!

This is just dumb!

Talk about clutching at straws to try and wiggle out of a losing argument. !!
Smuggling weapons into Gaza, shooting Rockets, etc. etc. to kill innocent civilians is O.K. With you? Of course it is
Israel is supposed to single out the perpetrators from the “ innocent civilians?”
That is just dumb!!!! :eusa_naughty:

Oh no, another dumbass ******* idiot...

How about you try and address the topic or STFU...

The conversation is about "collective punishment"... Do you have issues with reading/comprehension/English?

Yours, and many other Team Israels attempts to deflect from this FACT is very telling of your mentality, lack of understanding and your outright belligerence ...

Now, do you want to comment on "collective punishment" or not? If you don't it's ok, I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself!
 
Wait. Hold on here. Isn't calling to rip the hearts out of Jews/Israelis "collective punishment"?

That is just dumb!

Talk about clutching at straws to try and wriggle out of a losing argument!

The blockade IS collective punishment, no matter how hard you try to argue against that, it is collective punishment!

This is just dumb!

Talk about clutching at straws to try and wiggle out of a losing argument. !!
Smuggling weapons into Gaza, shooting Rockets, etc. etc. to kill innocent civilians is O.K. With you? Of course it is
Israel is supposed to single out the perpetrators from the “ innocent civilians?”
That is just dumb!!!! :eusa_naughty:

Oh no, another dumbass ******* idiot...

How about you try and address the topic or STFU...

The conversation is about "collective punishment"... Do you have issues with reading/comprehension/English?

Yours, and many other Team Israels attempts to deflect from this FACT is very telling of your mentality, lack of understanding and your outright belligerence ...

Now, do you want to comment on "collective punishment" or not? If you don't it's ok, I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself!
Visit Gaza lately wearing a cross?
 
Isn’t collective punishment in and of itself conducive to the spread of terrorism?

A crowd is throwing Malotov the Cocktails
Isn’t collective punishment in and of itself conducive to the spread of terrorism?

You have an out of control crowd throwing Malatov Cocktails, using Bow and Arriws and other home made devices, setting fires, trying to actually enter Israel, etc. What should Israel have done?

What have you been smoking?

You’re the one who has been smoking and drinking. The Palestinians never threw Malatov Cocktails, etc.etc. At Israeli Soldiers?

Another fail...

The conversation is "collective punishment" by use of an illegal blockade...

Put that bottle of JD down, put that joint down and see if you can actually join in the conversation. It's ok if you can't, we understand that it may be a little over your head... I'm sure one more spliff will help!
 
Isn’t collective punishment in and of itself conducive to the spread of terrorism?

A crowd is throwing Malotov the Cocktails
Isn’t collective punishment in and of itself conducive to the spread of terrorism?

You have an out of control crowd throwing Malatov Cocktails, using Bow and Arriws and other home made devices, setting fires, trying to actually enter Israel, etc. What should Israel have done?

What have you been smoking?

You’re the one who has been smoking and drinking. The Palestinians never threw Malatov Cocktails, etc.etc. At Israeli Soldiers?

Another fail...

The conversation is "collective punishment" by use of an illegal blockade...

Put that bottle of JD down, put that joint down and see if you can actually join in the conversation. It's ok if you can't, we understand that it may be a little over your head... I'm sure one more spliff will help!
Actually RETARD it is not an illegal blockade. But then any lie will do when defending terrorists right?
 
Wait. Hold on here. Isn't calling to rip the hearts out of Jews/Israelis "collective punishment"?

That is just dumb!

Talk about clutching at straws to try and wriggle out of a losing argument!

The blockade IS collective punishment, no matter how hard you try to argue against that, it is collective punishment!
You forgot to bring a swastika to make a point.

What losing argument? One cannot argue with suicidal maniacs.

Was I referring to a comment YOU made?

Nope...

However, if you would like to address the dumb comment made by someone else please, be my guest...

The conversation is about "collective punishment"... Let's see if you can join in THAT conversation or you will just deflect facts and run...

However, there was NO mention of swastikas. So... Either respond on someones behalf on the topic or, respectfully, **** off and try elsewhere..

Can I ask You to be a bit more respectful?

I don't see the blockade as a punishment but as defense against an enemy state,
ruled by Islamists who're sworn to murder Jews and destroy Israel.

Then again one comes to Israel waving a Swastika and expects anything else but a bullet in the head? Not so much brain in there anyway...
 
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Isn’t collective punishment in and of itself conducive to the spread of terrorism?

A crowd is throwing Malotov the Cocktails
Isn’t collective punishment in and of itself conducive to the spread of terrorism?

You have an out of control crowd throwing Malatov Cocktails, using Bow and Arriws and other home made devices, setting fires, trying to actually enter Israel, etc. What should Israel have done?

What have you been smoking?

You’re the one who has been smoking and drinking. The Palestinians never threw Malatov Cocktails, etc.etc. At Israeli Soldiers?

Another fail...

The conversation is "collective punishment" by use of an illegal blockade...

Put that bottle of JD down, put that joint down and see if you can actually join in the conversation. It's ok if you can't, we understand that it may be a little over your head... I'm sure one more spliff will help!
How old were you in 1998?
Were you even born?
How come the Western Gazans don’t help their terrorist “brothers” in Eastern Gaza?
 
Isn’t collective punishment in and of itself conducive to the spread of terrorism?

A crowd is throwing Malotov the Cocktails
Isn’t collective punishment in and of itself conducive to the spread of terrorism?

You have an out of control crowd throwing Malatov Cocktails, using Bow and Arriws and other home made devices, setting fires, trying to actually enter Israel, etc. What should Israel have done?

What have you been smoking?

You’re the one who has been smoking and drinking. The Palestinians never threw Malatov Cocktails, etc.etc. At Israeli Soldiers?

Another fail...

The conversation is "collective punishment" by use of an illegal blockade...

Put that bottle of JD down, put that joint down and see if you can actually join in the conversation. It's ok if you can't, we understand that it may be a little over your head... I'm sure one more spliff will help!
How old were you in 1998?
Were you even born?
How come the Western Gazans don’t help their terrorist “brothers” in Eastern Gaza?

Never heard about that. Just to think that You live overseas and know more about Gaza than me living here...

Sounds interesting, link me.
 
A crowd is throwing Malotov the Cocktails
You have an out of control crowd throwing Malatov Cocktails, using Bow and Arriws and other home made devices, setting fires, trying to actually enter Israel, etc. What should Israel have done?

What have you been smoking?

You’re the one who has been smoking and drinking. The Palestinians never threw Malatov Cocktails, etc.etc. At Israeli Soldiers?

Another fail...

The conversation is "collective punishment" by use of an illegal blockade...

Put that bottle of JD down, put that joint down and see if you can actually join in the conversation. It's ok if you can't, we understand that it may be a little over your head... I'm sure one more spliff will help!
How old were you in 1998?
Were you even born?
How come the Western Gazans don’t help their terrorist “brothers” in Eastern Gaza?

Never heard about that. Just to think that You live overseas and know more about Gaza than me living here...

Sounds interesting, link me.
You’ve never seen the malls and mansions in the Western Gaza?
I’m at the gym; just do a search.
 
A crowd is throwing Malotov the Cocktails
You have an out of control crowd throwing Malatov Cocktails, using Bow and Arriws and other home made devices, setting fires, trying to actually enter Israel, etc. What should Israel have done?

What have you been smoking?

You’re the one who has been smoking and drinking. The Palestinians never threw Malatov Cocktails, etc.etc. At Israeli Soldiers?

Another fail...

The conversation is "collective punishment" by use of an illegal blockade...

Put that bottle of JD down, put that joint down and see if you can actually join in the conversation. It's ok if you can't, we understand that it may be a little over your head... I'm sure one more spliff will help!
How old were you in 1998?
Were you even born?
How come the Western Gazans don’t help their terrorist “brothers” in Eastern Gaza?

Never heard about that. Just to think that You live overseas and know more about Gaza than me living here...

Sounds interesting, link me.
Mansions of the West Bank and Gaza
 
Wait. Hold on here. Isn't calling to rip the hearts out of Jews/Israelis "collective punishment"?

That is just dumb!

Talk about clutching at straws to try and wriggle out of a losing argument!

The blockade IS collective punishment, no matter how hard you try to argue against that, it is collective punishment!

This is just dumb!

Talk about clutching at straws to try and wiggle out of a losing argument. !!
Smuggling weapons into Gaza, shooting Rockets, etc. etc. to kill innocent civilians is O.K. With you? Of course it is
Israel is supposed to single out the perpetrators from the “ innocent civilians?”
That is just dumb!!!! :eusa_naughty:

Oh no, another dumbass ******* idiot...

How about you try and address the topic or STFU...

The conversation is about "collective punishment"... Do you have issues with reading/comprehension/English?

Yours, and many other Team Israels attempts to deflect from this FACT is very telling of your mentality, lack of understanding and your outright belligerence ...

Now, do you want to comment on "collective punishment" or not? If you don't it's ok, I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself!
Visit Gaza lately wearing a cross?

Yep. You?

Want to discuss collective punishment or you just a Team Israel troll like the rest of them?
 
Humanity
Simple question, if there was nothing to hide,

why did Gazans LIE so long about the drone?

Did they?

I really do not see that as an issue even if they did...

Why did Israel lie?

Have you seen any video of the drone being flown into Israeli airspace?

Have you seen any video of the drone being flown in an aggressive manner toward the IDF?

I for one would certainly not expect to be shot and killed for flying a drone in my back yard... Would you?
 
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Wait. Hold on here. Isn't calling to rip the hearts out of Jews/Israelis "collective punishment"?

That is just dumb!

Talk about clutching at straws to try and wriggle out of a losing argument!

The blockade IS collective punishment, no matter how hard you try to argue against that, it is collective punishment!
You forgot to bring a swastika to make a point.

What losing argument? One cannot argue with suicidal maniacs.

Was I referring to a comment YOU made?

Nope...

However, if you would like to address the dumb comment made by someone else please, be my guest...

The conversation is about "collective punishment"... Let's see if you can join in THAT conversation or you will just deflect facts and run...

However, there was NO mention of swastikas. So... Either respond on someones behalf on the topic or, respectfully, **** off and try elsewhere..

Can I ask You to be a bit more respectful?

I don't see the blockade as a punishment but as defense against an enemy state,
ruled by Islamists who're sworn to murder Jews and destroy Israel.

Then again one comes to Israel waving a Swastika and expects anything else but a bullet in the head? Not so much brain in there anyway...

You can ask whatever you wish... However, unlike the Team Israel sheep who follow a very strict, though rather confused agenda, I don't have to comply to 'requests'.

No, you wouldn't see the blockade for what it is, collective punishment, I wouldn't expect you to... Team Israel against the rest of the world on that one!

You need to try and focus on one thing at a time... Your attempts, again, at deflecting from the question, collective punishment, is a clear sign that you are in 'fear' of being proven a liar.
 
Wait. Hold on here. Isn't calling to rip the hearts out of Jews/Israelis "collective punishment"?

That is just dumb!

Talk about clutching at straws to try and wriggle out of a losing argument!

The blockade IS collective punishment, no matter how hard you try to argue against that, it is collective punishment!
You forgot to bring a swastika to make a point.

What losing argument? One cannot argue with suicidal maniacs.

Was I referring to a comment YOU made?

Nope...

However, if you would like to address the dumb comment made by someone else please, be my guest...

The conversation is about "collective punishment"... Let's see if you can join in THAT conversation or you will just deflect facts and run...

However, there was NO mention of swastikas. So... Either respond on someones behalf on the topic or, respectfully, **** off and try elsewhere..

Can I ask You to be a bit more respectful?

I don't see the blockade as a punishment but as defense against an enemy state,
ruled by Islamists who're sworn to murder Jews and destroy Israel.

Then again one comes to Israel waving a Swastika and expects anything else but a bullet in the head? Not so much brain in there anyway...

You can ask whatever you wish... However, unlike the Team Israel sheep who follow a very strict, though rather confused agenda, I don't have to comply to 'requests'.

No, you wouldn't see the blockade for what it is, collective punishment, I wouldn't expect you to... Team Israel against the rest of the world on that one!

You need to try and focus on one thing at a time... Your attempts, again, at deflecting from the question, collective punishment, is a clear sign that you are in 'fear' of being proven a liar.
Wait. Hold on here. Isn't calling to rip the hearts out of Jews/Israelis "collective punishment"?

That is just dumb!

Talk about clutching at straws to try and wriggle out of a losing argument!

The blockade IS collective punishment, no matter how hard you try to argue against that, it is collective punishment!

This is just dumb!

Talk about clutching at straws to try and wiggle out of a losing argument. !!
Smuggling weapons into Gaza, shooting Rockets, etc. etc. to kill innocent civilians is O.K. With you? Of course it is
Israel is supposed to single out the perpetrators from the “ innocent civilians?”
That is just dumb!!!! :eusa_naughty:

Oh no, another dumbass ******* idiot...

How about you try and address the topic or STFU...

The conversation is about "collective punishment"... Do you have issues with reading/comprehension/English?

Yours, and many other Team Israels attempts to deflect from this FACT is very telling of your mentality, lack of understanding and your outright belligerence ...

Now, do you want to comment on "collective punishment" or not? If you don't it's ok, I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself!

The conversation is about “ Collective Punishment” When Rockets, Malatov Cocktails , etc. are thrown at you from “ individuals” that you can’t identify, what should Israel do? This is a question that was asked before and of course there is no response . Now, dumbass, read slowly and try to answer the question. Can you comment on that or not? I wouldn’t want you to hurt yourself. :boo_hoo14::boo_hoo14:
 
Collective punishment, embargos, blockades, sanctions...

Collective Punishment
Collective punishment is a form of retaliation whereby a suspected perpetrator's family members, friends, acquaintances, sect, neighbors or entire ethnic group is targeted. The punished group may often have no direct association with the other individuals or groups, or direct control over their actions. In times of war and armed conflict, collective punishment has resulted in atrocities, and is a violation of the laws of war and the Geneva Conventions.[1] Historically, occupying powers have used collective punishment to retaliate against and deter attacks on their forces by Resistance movements (such as destroying entire towns and villages which were believed to have harboured or aided such resistance movements).

Looking at this definition, actions that Israel has engaged in, such as destroying the homes of the families of terrorists IS collective punishment.

But there is a lack of moral clarity in the use of embargos, blockades, seiges and sanctions. Are they collective punishment?

When do they become collective punishment?

Blockades and sanctions represent a form of "soft" pressure on a state to change some form of behavior. That's better than bombing them. So at some point collective punishment seems to be "ok" - western countries are using it on NK, it was used on Saddam's Iraq, pre-civil war Syria...and it HAS had some positive results - bringing people to the negotiating table for example.

At what point do blockades become morally unacceptable?
 
They can leave and they do abroad. Gaza has no port, Hamas refused it time and time again.
Better tell me which law obligates any country to give entrance to a subject of an enemy state?
You're a fuckin' liar!

[Israel] "...does not permit Palestinian, Israeli and foreign staff of human rights organizations to enter or leave Gaza. Israel controls Gaza’s airspace and territorial waters and has prevented the operation of an airport or seaport for the past two decades..."

"Israel’s restrictions on access to and from Gaza go far beyond what is permitted by international humanitarian law and human rights law. Because Israel continues to exercise control over significant aspects of life in Gaza, it continues to have obligations under the law of occupation in the areas in which it continues to exercise control..."

Israel also shoots unarmed protesters.

Fuckers like you, act as though the Palestinians don't have the right to have rights. Fuckers like you are cowards. You never talk about the evil you bring to the table.

:umno:
Next time try a real source.

Gazans leaving Gaza
Gazans in Egypt.
Gazans in Berlin

I still don't see the law that obligates a country to give entrance to subjects of an enemy state.


I wonder why the Egyptians so tightly control travel into and out of Gaza.


Are they working with the Jews?

Egypt has it's own security interests.
In one word- ARMS TRAFFICKING PREVENTION:



Egypt also fights the Islamic state in Sinai, while their militants infiltrate Gaza.
Just two weeks ago they jammed all their communication to spot the Islamists from Sinai in Gaza.

Not to mention that Egypt doesn't look all to well at Gaza becoming an Iranian proxy.
It's a serious problem in the neighborhood.

Seems strange because Egypt and Hamas are fighting against the same people.
 
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