Israeli Army Forces Enter Gaza, Open Fire On Palestinian Farmers

P F Tinmore, et al,

As previously stated: The immigration was in accordance with the authority of the Mandatory.

The Zionist imports fit which one of these definitions?
(COMMENT)

This is merely a choice between two equally erroneous options; a false dilemma.

Most Respectfully,
R
ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations
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The LoN Covenant disagrees.
 
No they didn't.

Yes they did. You have no idea what an invasion is.
You simply cannot admit this because it destroys your agenda.
I recommend you go debate another issue, because your grasp on this conflict is terrible.
You have no idea what immigration is.

Then tell me what it is.
This is the US version but it could be universally applied.
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IMMIGRANT: In popular usage, an "immigrant" is generally understood to be a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence. Under this definition, therefore, an "immigrant" is an alien admitted to the U.S. as a lawful permanent resident. The emphasis in this definition is upon the presumptions that (1) the immigrant followed U.S. laws and procedures in establishing residence in our country; (2) he or she wishes to reside here permanently; and (3) he or she swears allegiance to our country or at least solemnly affirms that he/she will observe and respect our laws and our Constitution.

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

Definitions Alien Immigrant Illegal Alien Undocumented Immigrant
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The Zionist imports fit which one of these definitions?

Jews came, bought land and developed it. They created jobs and raised the average income of the people.
They did not come to conquer but to build. They were not invaders, they were migrants, refugee returning to their ancient homeland.

FCUK THEY DID...what? planet do you live on
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

As previously stated: The immigration was in accordance with the authority of the Mandatory.

The Zionist imports fit which one of these definitions?
(COMMENT)

This is merely a choice between two equally erroneous options; a false dilemma.

Most Respectfully,
R
ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations
----------------------
The LoN Covenant disagrees.

Again you post a link to try and refute a fact, and the link has nothing to do with the original statement by Rocco.
Rocco said that the immigration was in accordance with the authority . What does the bolded part in your link have to do with that?
 
...The Zionists were in cahoots with the British colonial power to take over Palestine and create a Jewish state.

This was a violation of the Palestinian's right to self determination without external interference.
Screw the Palestinians and screw their right to self-determination - they are faux identity manufactured within living memory to describe a polyglut of old and new residents-of and migrants-to the area, few in number, ubiquitous in their crybaby propagandizing, intransigent and foolish in their dealings with adversaries and allies alike, and a lost cause.

Cowards who run away, who will not stand their ground, who are stupid enough to believe that their largely disinterested and lying and land-coveting neighbors will do all their fighting for them and hand them a manufactured state on a silver platter, who are such under-performers that they're willing to rot in refugee camps and refugee towns for sixty-six years rather than relocate and start new lives for their familes elsewhere, and who - when they do fight - embed war-assets amongst their civilians and who hide behind the skirts of their women and children like pussies - and then stupidly expect the world to believe their claims to the contrary - such fools, low-lifes and cowards get short shrift from both Reality and History.

The Palestinians had several decades and several key-point chances in which to reach a deal, before the Israelis reached the overdue conclusion that there was no point in negotiating with this primitive, savage, juvenile, petulant, insane collective. The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Create and run a country? Hell, they can't even keep their own socks pulled up and administer what they have - degenerating into civil war amongst themselves and splitting-in-two, what little is left to them.

The world is sick of the Palestinians and their shit. Hell, even the Egyptians and Jordanians collaborate with Israel nowadays to blockade and monitor the Palestinian crazies; to keep those mad dogs on a short leash, in their kennel, where they can't substantively bite their far more politically mature and sane neighbors. There is no longer any Arab cavalry coming over the hill to the rescue, as the 2014 Gaza campaign has proven beyond any shadow of a doubt. The Israelis have cut the balls off Hamas for very little cost except in money and munitions burned-off during the campaign, and bombed Hamas back to the table, hat-in-hand, to play nice again with Fatah and the Palestinian Authority.

A brand new Unity Government will now save the day - right? Yeah. Sure. Pull the other one.

There is now insufficient contiguous land-mass still remaining to these losers, to create and sustain a nation-state; hell, even in 1949-1950, they didn't have enough land for that, and now that they've been reduced to a few flea-sized morsels scattered here-and-there in the region, owing largely to their own (and their Arab neighbors former) foolishness in attacking or provoking the Jews, only to lose both the wars and the land, and with next to zero chance of recovering those lands, ever, it's time for the outside world to *****-slap these tunnel-visioned idiots upside the head, and to force them to face Reality - namely, it's over - it's been over for years - and its time to move away, and to move on with life.

Far better for them to break up and scatter to the four winds, rather than continue to play-out a losing hand for another sixty-six years, or longer, only to lose in the end anyway, with nothing more to show for it than more stupidly spilled blood, misspent treasure, misplaced energy, wasted time, and heart-wrenching grief.

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"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

The Palestinians had a decade to recover from the lost Palestinian Revolt of the 1930s and failed to do so, to anywhere near the extent that the Jewish militias organized themselves in anticipation of the end of the Mandate. The day went to the better prepared and motivated and clever and courageous, as it should, and as it always does.

The Palestinians also had the backing of their Arab neighbors, to varying extents, both financially and militarily, and still they allowed themselves to degenerate into and remain in a weakened condition prior to 1948, and they ran like rabbits when the Jews staked their claim rather than standing their ground alongside their invading Arab neighbors.

In alternate-universe dictionary speak.... "Losers: see 'Palestinians'.

Time for the so-called 'Palestinians' to recognize reality, throw in the towel, pack up, and leave.

It's over.
 
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When did the Palestinian's inalienable rights expire?

Give me a date.
May 15, 1948.

The day of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948.

The day they ran, rather than stand their ground and fight for themselves.

Use 'em or lose 'em.

For all intents and purposes, any snowball's chance-in-hell that they ever had, of actually becoming a country, evaporated on that very day.

Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away.

A cowardice that we still see today, as Palestinian fighters continue to hide behind the skirts of their women and children.

They got the destiny they chose for themselves, by running like rabbits.

Enjoy.

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."
You total Moron........at the time you mention the Jewish Terrorist Organizations were murdering Palestinians wholesale...and driving them deliberately out of their homes and towns.........Slaughtering innocent women,children and babies maybe your idea of strength but not to more educated people,but as you are a Dumb Bastard it merely shows you ignorance Big Time
Awwwwww... I don't think you liked my interpretation of the events of 1948, nor my (mostly implicit or historical) take on either the historical context nor subsequent developments.

My, my, my... oh dearie-me... as bad as all that? Glorioski, golly-gosh gee-whiz, and gee-willickers, Emmy Lou... whatever shall we do?
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AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE, during the period 1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921. AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE.
"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.
The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921
Hilarious! So, year 1921, and Transjordan is still part of the mandate palestine, 75% of it! Our honorable montelatici should excercise harder, harder!




It still was part of Palestine right up until the UN granted Israel full recognition and handed over the keys to the land. At the same time the UN said to Jordan and Syria you may as well be set free of our apron strings as well, now get out of the kitchen.
 
No, it's called an invasion from another continent. People from Europe do not have a homeland in the Middle East.

Uhhhh, most Americans are of European heritage.

Yes, how quickly you are catching on.

You said people of European heritage do not have a homeland in the Middle East. But you always pick on Israel because of your hate.
BTW, 45%-50% of Israeli Jews are from the Middle East and north Africa.

The Jews that invaded were from Europe. North Africa is on another continent. The Europeans committed the same crimes in the Americas. The invaded and expelled and/or put in camps (reservations) most of he people that were living in the Americas.

You keep ignoring the fact that the British in ites the European Jews to immigrate. You know what that means Monti? It means that there was no invasion.
It's that simple.




Not just the BRitish but the League of Nations and the Turkish/Persian ottomans
 
Excellent post Rocco. I have, on many occassions posted those attacks against Jews that you did to show the deluded pro Palestinians who really started the violence. Their excuse is always that those attacks were justified resistance because the Jews were trying to take over their 'country'. But when Jewish attacks against Arabs are brought up, they are made out to be initial agression .
That's because Palestinian-Jews and Palestinian-Arabs lived for century's in that area side-by-side, peacefully, with no recorded events of major violence between the two groups, until the Zionist migration at the turn of the last century.

That pretty much proves Zionists imported the violence along with their illegal immigration into the area.

It is called returning to the homeland, and they were invited by the ottoman and arab leaders.

No, it's called an invasion from another continent. People from Europe do not have a homeland in the Middle East.

Jordan, Iraq, Egypt and Syria invaded, occupied and mistreated the palestinians o the land they they captured.




When Israel gained control of gaza and the west bank they found the Palestinians caged like wild animals without even the basic humanitarian conditions on hand. Many unburied dead were found dumped in dishonour to their religion. It was Israel that gave them sanitation, running water, power and basic health care.
 
When did the Palestinian's inalienable rights expire?

Give me a date.
May 15, 1948.

The day of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948.

The day they ran, rather than stand their ground and fight for themselves.

Use 'em or lose 'em.

For all intents and purposes, any snowball's chance-in-hell that they ever had, of actually becoming a country, evaporated on that very day.

Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away.

A cowardice that we still see today, as Palestinian fighters continue to hide behind the skirts of their women and children.

They got the destiny they chose for themselves, by running like rabbits.

Enjoy.

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."
You total Moron........at the time you mention the Jewish Terrorist Organizations were murdering Palestinians wholesale...and driving them deliberately out of their homes and towns.........Slaughtering innocent women,children and babies maybe your idea of strength but not to more educated people,but as you are a Dumb Bastard it merely shows you ignorance Big Time
Awwwwww... I don't think you liked my interpretation of the events of 1948, nor my (mostly implicit or historical) take on either the historical context nor subsequent developments.

My, my, my... oh dearie-me... as bad as all that? Glorioski, golly-gosh gee-whiz, and gee-willickers, Emmy Lou... whatever shall we do?
tongue_smile.gif
Why would I because all your spewings like you, are FULL OF SHIT
 
Excellent post Rocco. I have, on many occassions posted those attacks against Jews that you did to show the deluded pro Palestinians who really started the violence. Their excuse is always that those attacks were justified resistance because the Jews were trying to take over their 'country'. But when Jewish attacks against Arabs are brought up, they are made out to be initial agression .
That's because Palestinian-Jews and Palestinian-Arabs lived for century's in that area side-by-side, peacefully, with no recorded events of major violence between the two groups, until the Zionist migration at the turn of the last century.

That pretty much proves Zionists imported the violence along with their illegal immigration into the area.

It is called returning to the homeland, and they were invited by the ottoman and arab leaders.

No, it's called an invasion from another continent. People from Europe do not have a homeland in the Middle East.

Jordan, Iraq, Egypt and Syria invaded, occupied and mistreated the palestinians o the land they they captured.




When Israel gained control of gaza and the west bank they found the Palestinians caged like wild animals without even the basic humanitarian conditions on hand. Many unburied dead were found dumped in dishonour to their religion. It was Israel that gave them sanitation, running water, power and basic health care.
Only Israelis have CAGED Palestinians..children at that......it was Australia that brought this to the worlds attention some months ago.....a practice that I believe has now stopped..........so much for your Bullshit Insight to the Plight of the Palestinians........You American Weido Wannabee Jews are nothing like the Israeli Jews who want a fair solution to these problems for both peoples......You MAY NOW Leave this thread as your comments like the Moron named Condor,because you have NO real contribution to this discussion................Wank On
 
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When did the Palestinian's inalienable rights expire?

Give me a date.
May 15, 1948.

The day of the Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948.

The day they ran, rather than stand their ground and fight for themselves.

Use 'em or lose 'em.

For all intents and purposes, any snowball's chance-in-hell that they ever had, of actually becoming a country, evaporated on that very day.

Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away.

A cowardice that we still see today, as Palestinian fighters continue to hide behind the skirts of their women and children.

They got the destiny they chose for themselves, by running like rabbits.

Enjoy.

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."
You total Moron........at the time you mention the Jewish Terrorist Organizations were murdering Palestinians wholesale...and driving them deliberately out of their homes and towns.........Slaughtering innocent women,children and babies maybe your idea of strength but not to more educated people,but as you are a Dumb Bastard it merely shows you ignorance Big Time
Awwwwww... I don't think you liked my interpretation of the events of 1948, nor my (mostly implicit or historical) take on either the historical context nor subsequent developments.

My, my, my... oh dearie-me... as bad as all that? Glorioski, golly-gosh gee-whiz, and gee-willickers, Emmy Lou... whatever shall we do?
tongue_smile.gif
Your weird attempt at Poetry was just that......Golly Gosh,VERY WEIRD INDEED...........
 
...The Zionists were in cahoots with the British colonial power to take over Palestine and create a Jewish state.

This was a violation of the Palestinian's right to self determination without external interference.
Screw the Palestinians and screw their right to self-determination - they are faux identity manufactured within living memory to describe a polyglut of old and new residents-of and migrants-to the area, few in number, ubiquitous in their crybaby propagandizing, intransigent and foolish in their dealings with adversaries and allies alike, and a lost cause.

Cowards who run away, who will not stand their ground, who are stupid enough to believe that their largely disinterested and lying and land-coveting neighbors will do all their fighting for them and hand them a manufactured state on a silver platter, who are such under-performers that they're willing to rot in refugee camps and refugee towns for sixty-six years rather than relocate and start new lives for their familes elsewhere, and who - when they do fight - embed war-assets amongst their civilians and who hide behind the skirts of their women and children like pussies - and then stupidly expect the world to believe their claims to the contrary - such fools, low-lifes and cowards get short shrift from both Reality and History.

The Palestinians had several decades and several key-point chances in which to reach a deal, before the Israelis reached the overdue conclusion that there was no point in negotiating with this primitive, savage, juvenile, petulant, insane collective. The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Create and run a country? Hell, they can't even keep their own socks pulled up and administer what they have - degenerating into civil war amongst themselves and splitting-in-two, what little is left to them.

The world is sick of the Palestinians and their shit. Hell, even the Egyptians and Jordanians collaborate with Israel nowadays to blockade and monitor the Palestinian crazies; to keep those mad dogs on a short leash, in their kennel, where they can't substantively bite their far more politically mature and sane neighbors. There is no longer any Arab cavalry coming over the hill to the rescue, as the 2014 Gaza campaign has proven beyond any shadow of a doubt. The Israelis have cut the balls off Hamas for very little cost except in money and munitions burned-off during the campaign, and bombed Hamas back to the table, hat-in-hand, to play nice again with Fatah and the Palestinian Authority.

A brand new Unity Government will now save the day - right? Yeah. Sure. Pull the other one.

There is now insufficient contiguous land-mass still remaining to these losers, to create and sustain a nation-state; hell, even in 1949-1950, they didn't have enough land for that, and now that they've been reduced to a few flea-sized morsels scattered here-and-there in the region, owing largely to their own (and their Arab neighbors former) foolishness in attacking or provoking the Jews, only to lose both the wars and the land, and with next to zero chance of recovering those lands, ever, it's time for the outside world to *****-slap these tunnel-visioned idiots upside the head, and to force them to face Reality - namely, it's over - it's been over for years - and its time to move away, and to move on with life.

Far better for them to break up and scatter to the four winds, rather than continue to play-out a losing hand for another sixty-six years, or longer, only to lose in the end anyway, with nothing more to show for it than more stupidly spilled blood, misspent treasure, misplaced energy, wasted time, and heart-wrenching grief.

===================================================

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

The Palestinians had a decade to recover from the lost Palestinian Revolt of the 1930s and failed to do so, to anywhere near the extent that the Jewish militias organized themselves in anticipation of the end of the Mandate. The day went to the better prepared and motivated and clever and courageous, as it should, and as it always does.

The Palestinians also had the backing of their Arab neighbors, to varying extents, both financially and militarily, and still they allowed themselves to degenerate into and remain in a weakened condition prior to 1948, and they ran like rabbits when the Jews staked their claim rather than standing their ground alongside their invading Arab neighbors.

In alternate-universe dictionary speak.... "Losers: see 'Palestinians'.

Time for the so-called 'Palestinians' to recognize reality, throw in the towel, pack up, and leave.

It's over.

There is a name for Guys like YOU......Wanker....you got it in one......................Golly Gosh
 
...There is a name for Guys like YOU......Wanker....you got it in one......................Golly Gosh
Uhhhhhhh, yeah, Arab butt liq-ker, you tell 'em... next slide, please.
 
Earlier there was a report of Israel shooting at Palestinian fisherman. Now there is another Israeli attack in spite of a cease fire.
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Gaza City, October 2 (RHC)-- Israeli army vehicles have entered the southern Gaza Strip and soldiers opened fire on Palestinian agricultural areas in a flagrant violation of a recent ceasefire agreement.

According to reports, at least a dozen Israeli military vehicles entered Gaza from a gate east of the southern city of Khan Yunis on Wednesday, crossing some 200 meters into the Palestinian territory.

Israeli soldiers then fired shots on Palestinian farms. Witnesses say the assault, which occurred in the early morning, forced agricultural workers to leave their lands. No injuries have been reported so far.

Earlier this week, Israeli military forces shot and injured a Palestinian farmer in northern Gaza near a fence separating Israeli-occupied territories from the blockaded coastal enclave. An Israeli military spokesperson claimed the farmer had come too close to the border fence.

Radio Havana Cuba Israeli Army Forces Enter Gaza Open Fire on Palestinian Farmers
I really don't know why Jews are making this mess, when they scare from every thing, I don't how they survive with this paranoid ism or like psychopath. How stupid psychopath they are they injured one Palestinian because that Palestinian come to very close to fence.
I will advise to jews that please give up your Idea that you superior or masaya is coming, be normal human being.
 
Again, you have failed miserably at refuting the fact that the Arabs started with the massacres and murders. You say they started it, but wheres your links?
Nothing but bullshit lies from you, Tinmore and Monti
THE ARABS STARTED WITH THE VIOLENCE! BIGTIME.
I provided the link. It's not my fault if you refuse to go read it.
 
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Jews came, bought land and developed it. They created jobs and raised the average income of the people.
Jewish people. Not the indigenous arabs who were living in that area for generations. They were denied employment. There were no jobs created for them.

Two of the principal means advocated by the Zionist Organization for achieving the national home were large-scale immigration and land purchase. A third was the denial of employment to Palestinian labour.
I've pointed this out to you before, yet you keep insisting on re-telling the same lie over and over.

They did not come to conquer but to build. They were not invaders, they were migrants, refugee returning to their ancient homeland.
Bringing their racist and apartheid land policies with them.

A strict policy of what in today's terms would be described as racial discrimination was maintained by the Zionist Organization in this rapid advance towards the "national home". Only Jewish labour could service Jewish farms and settlements. The eventual outcome of this trend was a major outbreak of violence with unprecedented loss of life in 1929, which was investigated by the Shaw Commission.
Hey Toasty, you snowback coward, do you see that last part? Jewish racism started all the violence.
 
Again, you have failed miserably at refuting the fact that the Arabs started with the massacres and murders. You say they started it, but wheres your links?
Nothing but bullshit lies from you, Tinmore and Monti
THE ARABS STARTED WITH THE VIOLENCE! BIGTIME.
I provided the link. It's not my fault if you refuse to go read it.

Your link does not show any Jewish attacks against Arabs that preceded the ones Rocco posted.

Your argument
Again, you have failed miserably at refuting the fact that the Arabs started with the massacres and murders. You say they started it, but wheres your links?
Nothing but bullshit lies from you, Tinmore and Monti
THE ARABS STARTED WITH THE VIOLENCE! BIGTIME.
I provided the link. It's not my fault if you refuse to go read it.

Your link did not provide any attacks by Jews against Arabs that precedes the ones Rocco posted.
Your argument that 'there was no violence before Zionists showed up, therefore they are responsible for it' is a strawman argument.
 
Jews came, bought land and developed it. They created jobs and raised the average income of the people.
Jewish people. Not the indigenous arabs who were living in that area for generations. They were denied employment. There were no jobs created for them.

Two of the principal means advocated by the Zionist Organization for achieving the national home were large-scale immigration and land purchase. A third was the denial of employment to Palestinian labour.
I've pointed this out to you before, yet you keep insisting on re-telling the same lie over and over.

They did not come to conquer but to build. They were not invaders, they were migrants, refugee returning to their ancient homeland.
Bringing their racist and apartheid land policies with them.

A strict policy of what in today's terms would be described as racial discrimination was maintained by the Zionist Organization in this rapid advance towards the "national home". Only Jewish labour could service Jewish farms and settlements. The eventual outcome of this trend was a major outbreak of violence with unprecedented loss of life in 1929, which was investigated by the Shaw Commission.
Hey Toasty, you snowback coward, do you see that last part? Jewish racism started all the violence.

Any attack/massacre/killing has a reason behind it. That doesn't justify it.
Either way, Arabs started killing/massacring Jews way before Jews killed any Arabs. You have still failed to prove otherwise.
You have failed again you sad piece of shit.
 
Jews came, bought land and developed it. They created jobs and raised the average income of the people.
Jewish people. Not the indigenous arabs who were living in that area for generations. They were denied employment. There were no jobs created for them.

Two of the principal means advocated by the Zionist Organization for achieving the national home were large-scale immigration and land purchase. A third was the denial of employment to Palestinian labour.
I've pointed this out to you before, yet you keep insisting on re-telling the same lie over and over.

They did not come to conquer but to build. They were not invaders, they were migrants, refugee returning to their ancient homeland.
Bringing their racist and apartheid land policies with them.

A strict policy of what in today's terms would be described as racial discrimination was maintained by the Zionist Organization in this rapid advance towards the "national home". Only Jewish labour could service Jewish farms and settlements. The eventual outcome of this trend was a major outbreak of violence with unprecedented loss of life in 1929, which was investigated by the Shaw Commission.
Hey Toasty, you snowback coward, do you see that last part? Jewish racism started all the violence.

As for there being no jobs for Arabs, your link doesn't say that. It says that the Zionist Organization ADVOCATED denial or work for Arabs. Go learn what the word ADVOCATED means you uneducated retard.
Oh, and not all Jews followed what the ZO advocated.
 

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